[Q] [NbQ]app|rom|battery - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989

t989 and other large screen devices getting heated up draining battery life is a common sight for the stock rom users. Many blame the bloatware on it, be it samsung, htc, verizon, t-mob etc etc.
However, we install a lot of apps and maybe these are overwhelming in terms of performance but the price we pay is the battery life most of the times. These third party apps can be anything from launchers to widgets to texting apps.
A lot of these apps run in the background and can be categorized as service process, background process, and empty process. This category does not seem to follow a rule in terms of memory consumption.
Why am i saying this?
I observed that installing third party apps which consume a lot of memory(monitoring using task managers/android assistant etc), really drains the battery out of your phone.
I agree there are other several reasons why the battery life could be short.
Major Physical limitations
- Larger display (brighter it is the faster it drains)
- Staying in low network coverage area for longer times
Usage
- Watching videos ( screen is always on)
- Streaming music (always trying to connect to the internet through data)
Software
- rich UI like lot of color rich widgets
- frequent auto updates
- more than once launchers running in parallel
- apps running in background.
But my question is how can i draw a line for an application to use a certain amount of memory. For example a texting app should not take more than X MB of memory, or a launcher is a good launcher if it takes less than Y MB memory.
How do i judge this x and y? What are the best tools you have used?
Please advice
On these notes a BIG thank you to the devs who try to minimize these limitations as much as possible by building kernels(memory mgmt, overclocking), modems(better handling of low coverage areas),radios and of course wonderful ROMS(for better looking, saving user operations, bloat free).

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How to increase HTC One X battery life

There is no doubt that HTC One X is the most powerful phone on the market yet, despite it's stock of amazing hardware features it also has a few lacks. And on of the biggest perhaps is the short battery life, but with a few tricks and modifications it is possible to overcome that and so increase the battery life of the best phone yet.
Well I found 6 tricks and extras that can really increase your battery life up to 20%:
1. KILL APPS USING TASK MANAGER
Notice or not but there are a lot of apps and services running in the background of your phone that suck a lot of battery and most of them are apps that you wouldn't need so killing those processes can increase your battery life.
To kill apps you have to access the task manager:
Press home icon>all apps>search for task manager and launch it.
Now you have the option of killing separate apps (press X on the process you want to end) or just ending the all by touching the stop all button.
2. Closing open Apps
A great feature in htc one x is also that you switch between open apps but it can also take a lot of battery depending on how many Apps you =have open.
How to close open Apps:
Touch the recent app button (in right to the home button)> now swipe the open Apps (the ones you want to close) to the top.
3.Disable Transition Animation
Transition Animation also take a lot of batter since the require more ram and disabling them can also increase your ram therewith your overall system performance.
How to Disable Transition Animation:
Go Settings>Display & gestures> uncheck the Animation bar
4. External Battery
Well there is always an option of getting an external portable battery which is quit inexpensive and can double your battery life.
5.System directory Modification
Just a few weeks ago a member (mike1986) posted about a file or directory displacement made by HTC that caused the short battery life. And now you can correct it and you could boost you battery life by up to 20%.
LINK TO mike1986 POST
6.Battery Save App
A battery save app could also be a life save as you can monitor exactly how much on what you're spending and then configure power save modes using apps such as Easy Battery Saver.
You can also turn off services such as 3g/WiFi/GPS to save battery consumption advanced users can also scale the CPU and more system operation with such brilliant app as JuiceDefender - battery saver.
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Conclusion:
Following those six step should improve your battery life a lot and should therewith resolve the major issue with the HTC One X.
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Hi
HRandev said:
There is no doubt that HTC One X is the most powerful phone on the market yet, despite it's stock of amazing hardware features it also has a few lacks. And on of the biggest perhaps is the short battery life, but with a few tricks and modifications it is possible to overcome that and so increase the battery life of the best phone yet.
Well I found 5 tricks and extras that can really increase your battery life up to 20%:
1. KILL APPS USING TASK MANAGER
Notice or not but there are a lot of apps and services running in the background of your phone that suck a lot of battery and most of them are apps that you wouldn't need so killing those processes can increase your battery life.
To kill apps you have to access the task manager:
Press home icon>all apps>search for task manager and launch it.
Now you have the option of killing separate apps (press X on the process you want to end) or just ending the all by touching the stop all button.
2. Closing open Apps
A great feature in htc one x is also that you switch between open apps but it can also take a lot of battery depending on how many Apps you =have open.
How to close open Apps:
Touch the recent app button (in right to the home button)> now swipe the open Apps (the ones you want to close) to the top.
3.Disable Transition Animation
Transition Animation also take a lot of batter since the require more ram and disabling them can also increase your ram therewith your overall system performance.
How to Disable Transition Animation:
Go Settings>Display & gestures> uncheck the Animation bar
4. External Battery
Well there is always an option of getting an external portable battery which is quit inexpensive and can double your battery life.
5.System directory Modification
Just a few weeks ago a member (mike1986) posted about a file or directory displacement made by HTC that caused the short battery life. And now you can correct it and you could boost you battery life by up to 20%.
LINK TO mike1986 POST
Conclusion:
Following those five step should improve your battery life a lot and should therewith resolve the major issue with the HTC One X.
:goodlease Comment and Thank if you think that this post was helpful.:laugh:​
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The biggest drain is the screen, so turn down the brightness.
Those other tips are probably more a placebo, and killing tasks is a bad idea on Android. Most of the apps are just loaded into memory but not actively running so not using power, and when your phone screen is off, nothing is running (unless you have a badly behaved application that is). Even if you have most of your memory empty of applications, those memory chips are still drawing the same power regardless, so it makes sense to keep applications in memory. Why? Because when you want to use the app again, the phone doesn't have to waste CPU cycles and power loading the application from the flash memory, then loading the applications saved state, so power is saved. If you never use the app again, and memory is short, it gets unloaded.
There is also the school of thought that if you shut down all background applications and so you lose functionality (background status updates, location services, push mail services, animations, weather displays etc), you then haven't got much of a smart phone!
The system directory modification related to an old version of the firmware, I doubt anyone is effect by that issue now.
Regards
Phil
It wouldn't effect your internal system apps
PhilipL said:
Hi
The biggest drain is the screen, so turn down the brightness.
Those other tips are probably more a placebo, and killing tasks is a bad idea on Android. Most of the apps are just loaded into memory but not actively running so not using power, and when your phone screen is off, nothing is running (unless you have a badly behaved application that is). Even if you have most of your memory empty of applications, those memory chips are still drawing the same power regardless, so it makes sense to keep applications in memory. Why? Because when you want to use the app again, the phone doesn't have to waste CPU cycles and power loading the application from the flash memory, then loading the applications saved state, so power is saved. If you never use the app again, and memory is short, it gets unloaded.
There is also the school of thought that if you shut down all background applications and so you lose functionality (background status updates, location services, push mail services, animations, weather displays etc), you then haven't got much of a smart phone!
The system directory modification related to an old version of the firmware, I doubt anyone is effect by that issue now.
Regards
Phil
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I do appreciate your replay but it only shows you those task that are running separately (not internal system apps) and if you kill them it does make a difference in the overall performance. And some operations like navigation running in the background continuously uses GPS and even Data constantly, so if you end it, it does make a difference.
You are right with the screen brightness, I thought about it and came to a conclusion to just leave it at auto because no one would like a dim display.
So it wouldn't completely turn off your data or calls or corrupt your system since you wouldn't terminate any internal system apps
regards,
HRanDev
PhilipL said:
Hi
The biggest drain is the screen, so turn down the brightness.
Those other tips are probably more a placebo, and killing tasks is a bad idea on Android.
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And also control 3G/WiFi/BT radios as and when needed , there are battery saver apps like Juice defender that intelligently turn off 3G and data connections.
Advanced users can also play around with custom kernels, CPU speed settings and Kernel governors, etc.. (can help with custom ROMs)
Thanks for the tip, I added it to it.
Actually agree with PhilipL.
Killing or managing tasks in Android is a placebo - and is likely to do more harm (in terms of battery life) than good. Plenty of articles if you google saying task managers are a bad idea.
However, managing screen brightness and background services will help enormously.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app

Five Android apps that prolong your smartphone's battery life

This collection of apps will not only extend the life of your handset, but could also improve its overall performance.
Have you ever found yourself wishing that your Android's battery would last longer? Don't answer that -- I already know. Be it an app that's too greedy on resources, ever-larger display sizes that use up power faster, or our constant desire to play mobile games that keep our screens lit up for hours at a time, we're eating up battery life faster than we'd like .
It isn't all bad news. As a platform, Android keeps getting more efficient at task management, and multitasking is smarter than ever. Still, battery life never seems to live up to our hopes or expectations.
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Thankfully, several high-end handsets now have custom touches built in that will adjust settings based on remaining battery life in an effort to squeeze out just a few more minutes. HTC recently introduced a new "extreme power mode" for the One M8 and Samsung has an "ultra power saving" feature in the Galaxy S5. Unfortunately, you have to curtail your usual usage to make the most of these, so they aren't the most convenient for relying on every day
I have spent time exploring a number of battery-saving apps over the years, and I have become quite fond of a few in particular. Here's a list of five of my favorite apps for prolonging the life of your Android's battery. Note that there are a few common settings that overlap across the apps, but in this piece, I've tried to highlight some of the features that help separate each app from the pack.
Juice Defender
Packed with seemingly endless options, Juice Defender is perhaps my favorite app on this list. The free client lets you manage common connections, such as mobile data as well as Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. Multiple preset modes, like "aggressive" and "balanced," allow for toggling and scheduling, background synchronization, and choosing which apps can keep your screen on.
Juice Defender is available in three versions with various features to suit your needs.
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Aside from the free app, Juice Defender also comes in Plus ($1.99) and Ultimate ($4.99) versions. Depending on what level of control you are looking for, one might be better suited for your needs. The Plus version, for instance, adds "extreme" and "customized" profiles as well as location-aware Wi-Fi, not to mention scheduling for night hours. The Ultimate app also boasts peak hours and weekend settings, autosync, and deeper GPS controls.
Indeed, I definitely recommend the free client as a starting point but have no qualms about endorsing the paid apps.
Standout features: Multiple versions to suit needs, user profiles, scheduling, and location-aware features.
Battery Defender
One of the more feature-rich free clients I've encountered, Battery Defender offers plenty of options at no cost. It might sound trivial, but I like having the exact battery percentage listed in my notification bar. Far more accurate than what the stock experience usually gives you, it's a simple pleasure.
Battery Defender provides quick access to a number of options.
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Battery Defender provides quick and painless access to toggling your common connections such as GPS, Wi-Fi, mobile data, and Bluetooth. I like being able to hop in and turn off the stuff I'm not using -- every little bit helps. While this sort of thing is built into many of today's top Android phones, older or less popular models aren't so fortunate.
Another feature that users will appreciate is Genius Scan, which allows sync to occur every 15 minutes. The adjustable "quiet sleeping" option disables Wi-Fi and data connections at night, a helpful feature for those who do not sleep next to their phones.
Standout features: Easy connections toggling, sleeping mode, staggered sync, and battery percentage in notification bar.
Go Battery Saver & Power Widget
Designed by the Go Dev Team, this one is as gorgeous as it is flexible. A simple tap of the screen lets you toggle preset modes, making it easy to go from reading and relaxing to online gaming. For those who don't like the standard modes, there are two other slots available for creating custom experiences.
Go Battery Saver & Power Widget keeps an eye on your apps to determine which are eating up battery more than others. By assigning a score to your battery, the app is able to determine which features you can enable or disable to extend its life. Tapping the optimize button, in essence, cleans everything up and tacks on some extra expected life. Doing this alone can provide an extra hour or more.
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While the free app is stocked with options and settings, the premium pack brings about another dozen features. Available through in-app purchase for $4.99, this upgraded bundle removes ads and tosses in scheduled settings, more control over Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and CPU, and a third "extreme" mode.
The app provides quick access to a number of settings with two home screen widgets. Should you go with the premium option, there are three more widgets to choose from. A number of skins or themes are available for Go Dev's own widgets, and you can also adjust how items appear in the notification bar.
Standout features: Handy widgets, multiple user modes, very clean interface, a steady stream of development updates.
Autorun Manager
Perhaps the most "risky" app on this list, Autorun Manager lets you determine which apps start running when your phone boots up. Like the aforementioned apps, this one comes in two modes: basic and advanced. Apps selected in basic mode are terminated immediately when the phone boots, though some will pop back up and start running. My advice here is to leave those alone and let system settings take over. As for the advanced mode, you will find more control over things such as widgets and receivers, and system-wide actions.
Autorun Manager lets users decide which apps start upon bootup of the Android handset.
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The free version of Autorun Manager is supported by ads, but you can purchase a Pro key for $3.99. Doing so will also keep apps from auto-restarting in basic mode, as well as block more than 10 receivers in advanced mode. Just for good measure, you also get "Chuck Norris mode," which lets you kill apps in a more aggressive manner. Please note that if you are on the fence over this app, we suggest you err on the side of caution and pass. For those of you who demand more control and a have firm grasp on Android's core functions, however, this might be right up your alley.
Standout features: Stops pesky apps from starting up, two user modes, clear insight into what runs immediately at bootup, awesome Chuck Norris reference.
Tasker
Of all the apps listed here, Tasker is the one that provides more than just battery extension and task-killing. In fact, I would recommend this one to anyone who wants to help automate the Android experience.
In the area of battery life, I like Tasker; it allows me to set times for sleeping and disabling of connections. While I generally tend to plug my phone in overnight, Tasker has proven handy in cases where I do not. Besides time of day, other triggers include day and location; both are useful for people with set work schedules.
Tasker provides users with a myriad of automation options.
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I also appreciate the way Tasker lets me set my phone to handle media, texting, phone calls, and other Android functions. It might take a while to fully grasp the capabilities, but at $2.99, this one is a true set-it-and-forget-it app.
Those of you with a Chromecast may enjoy some of the extensions and apps that tie into Tasker. One recently making headlines in the Android space, AutoCast, brings about numerous configurations and settings for Google's HDMI dongle.
Standout features: Automated settings based on time, day, and location; automatic settings for text and calls; clean and clutter-free interface.
Other tips and best practices
Chances are good that you can extend battery life by adjusting a few settings on your device or by following a couple of steps. Switching to airplane mode or turning off features like Bluetooth, NFC, and GPS can eke out a few more minutes of life in a pinch.
Is your phone set to automatically adjust brightness? Are your social media apps constantly pinging for updates? You may surprised at how much control you have over the apps and services on your smartphone.
It's not uncommon for an app developer to introduce a new feature or make an adjustment that impacts the battery. Along those lines, I always recommend updating apps to the latest versions. Sometimes these little "bug fixes" can pay off in big ways.
Your favorites?
Which Android applications do you use to extend the battery life of your Android device? Is it one of the five highlighted here, or do you prefer a different client? I would love to hear your feedback in the comments below.

How can increase the performance and battery life for Note Pro

HI ALL,
I will root my device , but I want to know how to increase its performance and speed and reduce RAM usage?
and what is the best browser for Android for fast browsing and low memory usage?
Most of the speed increasing and RAM decreasing can be done without root. Replacing Touchwiz with Apex or Nova Launcher is the first step that makes the most difference. Disable most of the bloatware and turn down animations in developer options.
This post probably belongs in the Q&A section, not the software one.
Reduction in RAM usage doesn't necessarily equate to performance boost. Android memory management does a good job of keeping things running smoothly so the goal of debloating should not be to free up RAM. To maximize performance with regards to memory usage with Android what you'll want to do is debloat your device to the point that applications that you'll never use are no longer loading into memory automatically (either as active applications or cached) which will allow other frequently used applications a chance to load into RAM/cache for quick response times. Running memory management software is also counter productive as it will battle against Android's own memory management and kill background applications that you may want cached for quicker response when needed.
Personally I WANT RAM to fill up because if I'm jumping from application to application I don't want to wait for things to load from storage into RAM. I also refrain from cache cleaning frequently because I have a particular routine when I use my device (frequenting particular websites and using particular applications daily) so clearing cache frequently will only force my device to have to re-cache things unnecessarily.
Getting down to the nitty gritty of how to debloat, the approach I took for my device is to work with a few applications; SystemPanelLite Task Manager, Greenify, Boot Manager and Titanium Backup. I would clean boot my device and let it sit for a while (several minutes) to cache applications as it saw fit. I'd then pop into the system panel lite application and look at what was loaded into both active processes and cached. I'd evaluate each entry to determine for myself whether or not I wanted that application to load automatically or not OR NEVER. If the answer was never then I'd use Titanium Backup to freeze the application (of course for each app I'd do my research to see if it was serving an important function). If the answer was that I needed the application but not all of the time then I'd look into Greenifying it and also considered disabling it from starting at boot using boot manager.
I'd do the above iteratively until all I saw in RAM or cached were applications and services that I felt were important. Never during this process did I care how low memory usage was since the goal is to preload as much of the important stuff as possible.
In the end I ended up freezing a ton of Samsung apps, especially after uninstalling applications that relied on their own app store like Hancom.
Of course a quicker way to reduce bloat is to go to a ROM that someone else has debloated and start there as a base. I began my own debloating process early last year though so starting again on a ROM even if it already is debloated to a certain extent doesn't seem worth it for me at this time (but if a lollipop update rolls out and a ROM developer updates to that then I'll surely try it).
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ShadowLea said:
Most of the speed increasing and RAM decreasing can be done without root. Replacing Touchwiz with Apex or Nova Launcher is the first step that makes the most difference. Disable most of the bloatware and turn down animations in developer options.
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thanks a lot man , I used nove launcher and its v nice , I guess need to root so I can freeze more apps as not all can be disabled using offical rom
muzzy996 said:
This post probably belongs in the Q&A section, not the software one.
Reduction in RAM usage doesn't necessarily equate to performance boost. Android memory management does a good job of keeping things running smoothly so the goal of debloating should not be to free up RAM. To maximize performance with regards to memory usage with Android what you'll want to do is debloat your device to the point that applications that you'll never use are no longer loading into memory automatically (either as active applications or cached) which will allow other frequently used applications a chance to load into RAM/cache for quick response times. Running memory management software is also counter productive as it will battle against Android's own memory management and kill background applications that you may want cached for quicker response when needed.
Personally I WANT RAM to fill up because if I'm jumping from application to application I don't want to wait for things to load from storage into RAM. I also refrain from cache cleaning frequently because I have a particular routine when I use my device (frequenting particular websites and using particular applications daily) so clearing cache frequently will only force my device to have to re-cache things unnecessarily.
Getting down to the nitty gritty of how to debloat, the approach I took for my device is to work with a few applications; SystemPanelLite Task Manager, Greenify, Boot Manager and Titanium Backup. I would clean boot my device and let it sit for a while (several minutes) to cache applications as it saw fit. I'd then pop into the system panel lite application and look at what was loaded into both active processes and cached. I'd evaluate each entry to determine for myself whether or not I wanted that application to load automatically or not OR NEVER. If the answer was never then I'd use Titanium Backup to freeze the application (of course for each app I'd do my research to see if it was serving an important function). If the answer was that I needed the application but not all of the time then I'd look into Greenifying it and also considered disabling it from starting at boot using boot manager.
I'd do the above iteratively until all I saw in RAM or cached were applications and services that I felt were important. Never during this process did I care how low memory usage was since the goal is to preload as much of the important stuff as possible.
In the end I ended up freezing a ton of Samsung apps, especially after uninstalling applications that relied on their own app store like Hancom.
Of course a quicker way to reduce bloat is to go to a ROM that someone else has debloated and start there as a base. I began my own debloating process early last year though so starting again on a ROM even if it already is debloated to a certain extent doesn't seem worth it for me at this time (but if a lollipop update rolls out and a ROM developer updates to that then I'll surely try it).
Sent from my SM-P900 using Tapatalk
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Really helpfull man thanks a lot for all the information u shared, am ok with but guess will need to do more research for greenify cuz I didnt use it at all, secondly what office u used after uniinstalling hancom?
I'm currently using Microsoft's Word/Excel Preview apps and have an Office 365 account to enable editing. I've just started (1 month trial) so I haven't really gotten a lot of use out of the software yet.
I can't speak for anyone else but myself but my reason for dropping Hancom was twofold; 1) it did not support the review/commenting features that I needed in Word files and 2) it often required updates at inopportune times. My needs are quite specific, my tablet is a reference and note taking device for meetings and is never used for production type work. As such, I need the ability to take email attachments, open them for review and comment and then send the comments back out as email attachments. The limitations of Hancom when it comes to track changes were a deal breaker for me since I could not see the history of development of reports/documents.
Microsoft's mobile version of Word implements the best support of track changes/comments that I've found to date, so I'm forced to pay the premium of a 365 subscription on this device to get what I need.
muzzy996 said:
I'm currently using Microsoft's Word/Excel Preview apps and have an Office 365 account to enable editing. I've just started (1 month trial) so I haven't really gotten a lot of use out of the software yet.
I can't speak for anyone else but myself but my reason for dropping Hancom was twofold; 1) it did not support the review/commenting features that I needed in Word files and 2) it often required updates at inopportune times. My needs are quite specific, my tablet is a reference and note taking device for meetings and is never used for production type work. As such, I need the ability to take email attachments, open them for review and comment and then send the comments back out as email attachments. The limitations of Hancom when it comes to track changes were a deal breaker for me since I could not see the history of development of reports/documents.
Microsoft's mobile version of Word implements the best support of track changes/comments that I've found to date, so I'm forced to pay the premium of a 365 subscription on this device to get what I need.
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thanks for reply and sorry for late , hoping the android 5 be great
Install cm12 lollipop ROM. Drastic improvement in browser performance and gaming. For example, Asphalt 8 is extremely slow on stock, even overclocked. On cm12 it runs perfectly with max graphics settings. Unfortunately you lose all the cool touchwiz features like multi window. For me, the performance improvement is enough that it's worth the lost features. I'm anxiously waiting for the official lollipop update.

Improving battery longevity

I've had Lollipop since the intro and and at first it was fine then it started to be buggy. I decided to hard reset and the phone works better but what I miss was the stellar battery longevity. From an unplug at 7 am I'd have 45-50% by 7 pm, now that's gone. I have 13% by &pm. Keep in in mind that I have a retail version and turned off any app possible that I don't want to work ,plus used Debloater. Lastly I use Greenify .
Looking at the battery specs I see that the Exchange services are at the top . Plus I see that Nova launcher is high on therunning list. This is a new version and i wonder if it's a power eater?
Here's what's in the running list-
settings- 210mb
nova- 71mb
weather app- 24mb
ipec - 8.3mb
securitymanagerservice- 5.4mb
passpoint settings- 4.4mb
android- 5.4mb
Bluetooth- 9.7 mb, Bluetooth is off and used only when i need it but still shows in this list
google play- 52mb
contacts- 15mb
context service- 17mb
email- 43mb
exchange- 20mb
greenify- 8.8mb
samsung keyboard- 45mb, why does the keyboard have to show and it's not being used
systemui- 16mb
Thanks in advance
pbman1953 said:
I've had Lollipop since the intro and and at first it was fine then it started to be buggy. I decided to hard reset and the phone works better but what I miss was the stellar battery longevity. From an unplug at 7 am I'd have 45-50% by 7 pm, now that's gone. I have 13% by &pm. Keep in in mind that I have a retail version and turned off any app possible that I don't want to work ,plus used Debloater. Lastly I use Greenify .
Looking at the battery specs I see that the Exchange services are at the top . Plus I see that Nova launcher is high on therunning list. This is a new version and i wonder if it's a power eater?
Here's what's in the running list-
settings- 210mb
nova- 71mb
weather app- 24mb
ipec - 8.3mb
securitymanagerservice- 5.4mb
passpoint settings- 4.4mb
android- 5.4mb
Bluetooth- 9.7 mb, Bluetooth is off and used only when i need it but still shows in this list
google play- 52mb
contacts- 15mb
context service- 17mb
email- 43mb
exchange- 20mb
greenify- 8.8mb
samsung keyboard- 45mb, why does the keyboard have to show and it's not being used
systemui- 16mb
Thanks in advance
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Well, I'm not sure why you're using the data you've provided to try to explain battery usage. The data you've provided looks like the amount of RAM the app/file occupies. The amount of RAM an app or process uses is not indicative of the amount of battery that will be consumed when that app/process is running. A much better indication of what's going on with battery consumption is data that indicates what and how much battery is being used by an app or process...like screen on time or cpu time used by an app.
If I understand you rightI think you're talking about the settings /battery area-
if so
Exchange services are at 4%
Android system- 1%
Android OS- 1%
Email- 1%
pbman1953 said:
If I understand you rightI think you're talking about the settings /battery area-
if so
Exchange services are at 4%
Android system- 1%
Android OS- 1%
Email- 1%
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Yeah, that area gives you a better idea of what is using the battery. If you really want to analyze what is using the battery resources in your phone you need to download and run an app that is designed to monitor your system and report what is using battery resources, how much and when. There are a number of apps in the Play Store that will do that. Many of them are free, but the better ones will cost you a dollar or two. But, if you're really interested in finding out what is "eating" your battery resources it may be well worth a dollar or two.
Here's list of the most common battery hogs: Facebook, live wallpaper, apps that sync data or other information every minute or two, screen on time-how often are you looking at the display and for how long, streaming video and music, gps, wifi, nfc and bluetooth turned on but not needed or in use, widgets open and running but not needed or used.
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Yeah, that area gives you a better idea of what is using the battery. If you really want to analyze what is using the battery resources in your phone you need to download and run an app that is designed to monitor your system and report what is using battery resources, how much and when. There are a number of apps in the Play Store that will do that. Many of them are free, but the better ones will cost you a dollar or two. But, if you're really interested in finding out what is "eating" your battery resources it may be well worth a dollar or two.
Here's list of the most common battery hogs: Facebook, live wallpaper, apps that sync data or other information every minute or two, screen on time-how often are you looking at the display and for how long, streaming video and music, gps, wifi, nfc and bluetooth turned on but not needed or in use, widgets open and running but not needed or used.
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Facebook, I use a browser link not the app
no Live wallpaper
apps that sync data or other information every minute or two- sounds like the emails. There doesn't seem to be a tweak anywhere for that
no streaming or music
GPS is on but didn't seem to bother before the reset
Wifi - used on demand
NFC- don't use
Bluetooth-also used on demand but is still listed as running when off
The only widget i use is my weather app- I do like it though- Weather XL
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How to stop apps getting killed when switching

I can live with the Nexus 5X' relative sluggishness when compared to the Nexus 5, but what really stops me from doing my work is the phone killing apps when I switch between them.
Example: I may be filling out a form on a website in Firefox for Android. I need to look up a word in the dictionary, so I switch over to the dictionary and look up the word. When I switch back to Firefox, the application has obviously been killed, as it reloads the page.
Example2: I'm listening to the Audio version of the Economist via the Economist app. The speaker mentions a certain placename and I open the Google Maps app in order too find where it is on the map. Suddenly the audio will stop playing - the app has been killed.
The above gets considerably worse when switching between more than two apps and is really hindering my work and productivity.
Now this almost never happened on the Nexus 5, which also only had 2 GB of RAM. So is it the power saving feature of the Nexus 5X kicking in? Is there a way to stop it from happening?
Marshmallow simply has very bad RAM management from what I've seen. I used to have the Nexus 5 too and as you said, multitasking was a very good experience on it (especially on Kitkat). Google's OS takes more of the phone's resources after each update (with no major new features or improvements). Marshmallow looks exactly the same as Lollipop, except for the tiny feature of apps permissions, and the Now on tap that I barely use (same for Android pay which I'm sure most of Nexus 5x owners won't even be able to use it outside the US). So I still don't understand why they had to jump so fast to a new version of Android while Lollipop still had a ****load of bugs that need fixing, they could've worked more on Lollipop to perfect it first then give us Marshmallow after 2 years maybe, we're not in a hurry.. I just hope they don't stop again at Marshmallow 6.1/6.2 or something and introduce Android N *sigh*
Sounds like you have more user installed apps with constantly running background services installed that the phone can comfortably handle with 2GB memory.
Check the memory stats in Settings - if the average over all the time options is 1.6GB or above used then your phone is going to struggle and cached apps are going to be getting cleared out when switching regularly. Look down the list particulary for apps running close to 100% of the time with a big RAM fingerprint. Also check running services in developer settings to get an idea of what is running a service all of the time.
Once you've identified the worst offenders make that difficult decision - is the apps utility worth it for the impact on performance. Consider reporting the memory use to the developer, particularly if it's much lower after a reboot and increases over time. Plenty of playstore apps ship with clear memory leak issues.
Other than that the other option is reasonably regular reboots to keep the system fresh and clear out any memory leaks.
thanks for the suggestion. Well here's the top 5:
Android operating system 524 MB
Wechat 156 MB
Firefox 117 MB
System UI 105 MB
Android system 99 MB
Clearly it's mostly the system using all resources. Firefox and Wechat, sure, I find them rather essential to my life, but together they don't even use as much as the OS.
Thing is, I can't remember this happening on the Nexus 5.
Sounds like you may have some apps using up a lot of your memory. I haven't been seeing any redraws with my apps, even 24+ hours of sitting in the background. The other day I was switching between gaming, streaming a live sporting even, and text messaging and the phone didn't drop a beat despite the game alone using 600MB of RAM.
Are those the average RAM or peak?
that's what shows up when I get the details of the RAM usage through settings
still this never happened on the Nexus 5, at least I can't remember
Yeah, I have a hard time believing it's the apps. I never had this issue come up in my Moto X 2013 (also 2 GB of RAM) using the same apps. We're seriously talking about one app open, switching to another app. No reason switching back to the first app should have everything reload.
Unless by "some apps," you mean that they have somehow not been optimized for Marshmallow in some way or other. But the apps simply running a process? A smartly-made OS (Lollipop, KitKat) will know "Hey, we have to kill something to free up RAM? Why don't we kill an app that hasn't been used in a while?" and a less-smartly-made OS (perhaps Marshmallow...?) will think "Hey, we have to kill something to free up RAM... why don't we kill the app the user just used?"
And there are two figures there - average and peak - which are those?
If there are the averages rather than peak then both Firefox and Wechat have got a problem.
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Marshmallow and Lollipop low RAM behaviour is pretty much identical and quite aggressive (the OS tries to preserve quite a chunk of free memory which is uses on the sly as a display buffer), KitKat was less aggressive.
I don't have any problem multitasking on my Nexus5x, but then again for the apps I've got when I check the memory tab I'm normally averaging 1.2-1.4GB used and 400-600MB average memory free so there is plenty of space for the OS to gracefully cache and uncache processes. If the phone is normally running at 1.5GB-1.6GB used and 200-300MB then the LMK is going to be kicking in frequently. It kicks in at around 250MB free on a Nexus5x.
It was the default setting, i.e. average. HM ok good to know. It's happening quite often when listening to the Economist too. Which is really bull****, it should treat it as audio playing. Why would Android kill your music.
I agree music players don't get the priority they should, although that particular 'bug' at least gives a clear symptom that lack of free RAM is an issue, if not the cause of the issue e.g. the OS, to many running services from user apps, or a particular user app with memory leak issues.
I came to the Nexus5x from a 1GB Moto G where it was almost impossible to keep background music running in combination with navigation after Lollipop without uninstalling pretty much everything else user installed and have got used to monitoring the RAM footprint and behaviour of apps as a result.
I've suffered the problem once since I've had the Nexus5x and that was due to the music player (Soundcloud) being a memory hog (120MB+) with it's background music player service coupled with a memory leak in the driving app I was testing at the time - Automate - it was peaking at 460MB use.
I'm not so precious about what is installed now but anything that wants to run a constant service either has to be tiny when running that service or absolutely fundamental to my use of the device.
I find this to be the worst problem .We want to kill our apps like we are use to.Switching between email and chrome is horrible especially when you have to start your application all-over again (submission request) Hopefully some XDA member will figure out how to solve this issue. For now I am testing DEVELOPER OPTIONS allow running
apps in background ? Anyone know what the default value is??

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