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wm6 on t mobile dash pics!

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------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I know the screen shots are a bit blurry so try to shrink it or photoshop if needed.
http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/...9m_77c6bf5.jpg
-Main screen... not much different but a few icon changes
http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/...9m_fe6ac41.jpg
-The new Mobile IE with a search bar
http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/...9m_7aff6d7.jpg
-Active Sync 4.5.. modeled for Vista... when used with AS4.5Beta... the sync is so much more stable compared to AS4.2 or AS4.1...
http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/...9m_f1cb263.jpg
-Internet Sharing eliminates the Wireless Modem application from prior versions. This is a major step up when tethering the phone to your laptop. it eliminates the need for the "HTC Modem" driver completely and the headache needed in "tricking" the device to work.
http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/...9m_915de71.jpg
-Windows Live Messenger... just a small step up... Havn't tested the stability yet.

so are you telling us you have WM6 on your dash?

I cant see any of your pic. Can you check your links? I would love to see pics.
Here is the link to pics from brighthand.
Main screen... not much different but a few icon changes
The new Mobile IE with a search bar
Active Sync 4.5.. modeled for Vista... when used with AS4.5Beta... the sync is so much more stable compared to AS4.2 or AS4.1...
Internet Sharing eliminates the Wireless Modem application from prior versions. This is a major step up when tethering the phone to your laptop. it eliminates the need for the "HTC Modem" driver completely and the headache needed in "tricking" the device to work.
Windows Live Messenger... just a small step up... Havn't tested the stability yet.

djdanska said:
I cant see any of your pic. Can you check your links? I would love to see pics.
Here is the link to pics from brighthand.
Main screen... not much different but a few icon changes
The new Mobile IE with a search bar
Active Sync 4.5.. modeled for Vista... when used with AS4.5Beta... the sync is so much more stable compared to AS4.2 or AS4.1...
Internet Sharing eliminates the Wireless Modem application from prior versions. This is a major step up when tethering the phone to your laptop. it eliminates the need for the "HTC Modem" driver completely and the headache needed in "tricking" the device to work.
Windows Live Messenger... just a small step up... Havn't tested the stability yet.
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Their photoshopping skills need some work

no i wish i hd the ruu wm6 for excalibur but the member who posted this on brighthand works for htc

leoiden said:
no i wish i hd the ruu wm6 for excalibur but the member who posted this on brighthand works for htc
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There are some things that throw me off:
1.he post says the pictures where taken with an 8525. I don't know of any canera phone that has that bright of flash.
secondly, why is there a glare from a flash on every part of the phone but the screen.
On one picture you can see what looks like a bad edge when editing.

jcjdoss said:
There are some things that throw me off:
1.he post says the pictures where taken with an 8525. I don't know of any canera phone that has that bright of flash.
secondly, why is there a glare from a flash on every part of the phone but the screen.
On one picture you can see what looks like a bad edge when editing.
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Conspiracy?
No, wait that's not a flash in the sky, it's a flourescent light fixture. These pictures must have been taken in an office. The glare is from the light overhead and in one picture due to the angle you can actually see the next light fixture over.

HTC GUY works for HTC, he is an engineer and I would trust any pictures that he posts.

mar11974 said:
Conspiracy?
No, wait that's not a flash in the sky, it's a flourescent light fixture. These pictures must have been taken in an office. The glare is from the light overhead and in one picture due to the angle you can actually see the next light fixture over.
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The only thing that throws that off is how the light concentrates to the left. Even our halogen lights at my office do not beam that direct. That is hitting the device like direct sunlight vs a flourescent light as they light more evenly.
But I dont care really, I just like the pics and how WM6 may/does look.
pink

Engadget just posted some WM6 pics:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/windows-mobile-6-standard-in-pictures/
A few of the screenshots reference "Excalibur" and "JOGGR"...

Really cool pics, hopes WM6 ROM for excalibur will coming soon...
BTW, look at the Radio Version...is the same one in the latest excalibur ROM...So...

http://www.pdafrance.com/articles/l...700/Windows-Mobile-6---Premieres-impressions/
Windows Mobile 6 review running on the Dash....(French)

excaliber wm6
okay... so now we've seen the screen shots...how do i get wm6 on my excaliber?

Yeah, how do we get WM6 on our Dash?? I want this so bad!

almost everyone wants wm6. you'll just have to wait.

Hmmm, check out Geek's coverage...
http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2007Feb/lab20070207002377.htm
... that device looks quite familiar don't ya think?! It is confirmed... WMP6 is on the Dash... now will it come to us?!

http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/11/windows-mobile-6-out-supports-new-resolutions-too/
Looks like we're officially going to see WM6 on the Dash in the upcoming months. Can't wait!

WM6 is released in the wild...
People...not sure if this thread is still active but those who read this and want wm6 (all be it a beta) on their phone real bad will love this...
Do a little searching for it on ... i'm not sure if the rules allow this but it's harmless really..search the major torrent search engines and ye shall find it. How do I know? Look who created it ;p (Hint: This major torrent search engine starts with a "D"...come on if you can't figure that one out your shouldn't be upgrading your phone in the first place -hehe)
Anyways...this is a UI Test build and it's pretty darn stable. It's been running on my dash for over a week now and no major bugs. Windows Live screen is a tad buggy (when attempting to log into Live the home screen gives error message and you have to change back to another screen...it works some times but it's far from perfect). Full HTML email (exchange 2007 only and some webmail..like hotmail and verizon dsl email... give you full HTML messages). The OZ chat client finally includes Messenger in the selection. My Bluetooth headest is a moto HS810 and it works...just a bit buggy...
What else...Oh yeah office mobile (editing capability) are back! Word, Excel, and Powerpoint and they work great so far. The new IE browser does have a search on the cool new "homepage"...though I haven't really found the quit/exit option...I have to kill it through the task manager...
Last thing which may just be because this is Beta still but I noticed that more application memory was being used on the average without any programs running. On a fresh boot there is more memory, but after loading a few and even after shutting them all down through task manager the memory doesn't seem to go back up past 10,000KB free...if you get it that high your lucky. Activesync works great even in Vista's mobile control center thing.
The only thing that isn't working is the Tmobile account WAP page when attempting to access via the NEW WINWAP app...it stated that this version isn't supported yet and if you are a tester you need to call them up and register in order to access via this version)
All in all a great release for those who just can't wait anymore for the stupid thing to get released. However it's 100% confirmed that the Tmobile Dash will be getting this upgrade to its current users for free...thus why I don't feel bad that you can find it in the wild...
I take no credit for this being released in any way! I found it on some lowly forum in which I don't even remember where. It wasn't very easy to find so I am helping people find it so they can test it.

gee i wonder where that was.
it was posted here first!
ppl.

gr33k said:
Last thing which may just be because this is Beta still but I noticed that more application memory was being used on the average without any programs running. On a fresh boot there is more memory, but after loading a few and even after shutting them all down through task manager the memory doesn't seem to go back up past 10,000KB free...if you get it that high your lucky. Activesync works great even in Vista's mobile control center thing.
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The reason that the memory usage is so high is primarily because of the additional T-Mobile apps that intercept SMS's (for IM's, e-mail, etc), as well as My-5, and some other T-Mobile stuff.
I'm guess that they also may have changed the way memory management is handled in this, because even when i get down to near zero free, i can still do everything just fine, without any extra lag or error messages. It could be something like how Vista caches things in RAM and actually has a goal of filling up as much as possible with cached items (which is a good thing).

Messenger for Linux/WM5/WM6... (Video-Conferencing, voice calls)

I Wonder if there is any Messenger software for Linux/WM5/WM6 and can do voice calls/Video-Conferencing using the build in Video cam as a web cam without using the 3G Video Call ?
I mean like doing Video call with yahoo, and MSN, but use build in Video cam as web cam? Because I think it's such a waste to have a Video cam on the Universal but not be able to use it as a web Cam doesn't matter about FPS though, at least get to use it....
J

If you want to use your pda as a webcam (and still use msn/yahoo/etc from your pc), check out Ateksoft WebCamera Plus here: http://www.ateksoft.com/webcamplus.html
It works both when ppc is cradled, and through wifi. Although I haven't managed to make it work on a Qtek9000 with WM6, on WM5 it worked like a charm

akpidis said:
If you want to use your pda as a webcam (and still use msn/yahoo/etc from your pc), check out Ateksoft WebCamera Plus here: http://www.ateksoft.com/webcamplus.html
It works both when ppc is cradled, and through wifi. Although I haven't managed to make it work on a Qtek9000 with WM6, on WM5 it worked like a charm
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thanks ~ I will try it out

SOG said:
thanks ~ I will try it out
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Note that it requires a desktop computer.
As far as purely WM-based applications are concerned, Portrait 3.0 (check out my review posted to the General forum) is able to use the built-in camera - but only the rear and not the front one on WM devices with two cameras. That is, it's pretty much useless unless you use a mirror
Unfortunately, there're no messenger apps with camera capabilities (see my IM Bible, crossposted to the General forum, for more info if interested)

Menneisyys said:
Note that it requires a desktop computer.
As far as purely WM-based applications are concerned, Portrait 3.0 (check out my review posted to the General forum) is able to use the built-in camera - but only the rear and not the front one on WM devices with two cameras. That is, it's pretty much useless unless you use a mirror
Unfortunately, there're no messenger apps with camera capabilities (see my IM Bible, crossposted to the General forum, for more info if interested)
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ya, that require a computer, and somehow I can't make it work too... it just won't display anything after selecting the driver.
anyway, ya, I am trying to find a software that will do "purely WM-based applications with web cam capabilities" thanks for the info on Protrait 3.0
I will certainly check it out kind of doesn't matter if it uses only the rear camera, oh well if it can use both, it would be great but things don't always work out the way we want it now searching for Protrait 3.0, hope I can use it to connect to desktop. and Thanks for the info !!

Menneisyys said:
Note that it requires a desktop computer.
As far as purely WM-based applications are concerned, Portrait 3.0 (check out my review posted to the General forum) is able to use the built-in camera - but only the rear and not the front one on WM devices with two cameras. That is, it's pretty much useless unless you use a mirror
Unfortunately, there're no messenger apps with camera capabilities (see my IM Bible, crossposted to the General forum, for more info if interested)
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Thanks Menneisyys, it works ! it works ! it works ! it works !
the video is good, but the interface is slow though, maybe I should flash the ROM or something, since I am still using the original ROM; most of the phone operation delay for 2 seconds or more....
For those who are interested... here is the link -----> http://research.microsoft.com/mcom/portrait/ But somehow firefox and opera can't download the file, but only IE... Is this the best M$ or Bill can do to get people use IE ? heh heh

i'm using a wm6 rom and it's works perfect
i have tested it over wifi and sync cable and both work
i didn't have to change a single setting plug and play
I't even works on my c500

Jasjar/Qtek 9000 owner lets rally!!!!!
SOG said:
I Wonder if there is any Messenger software for Linux/WM5/WM6 and can do voice calls/Video-Conferencing using the build in Video cam as a web cam without using the 3G Video Call ?
I mean like doing Video call with yahoo, and MSN, but use build in Video cam as web cam? Because I think it's such a waste to have a Video cam on the Universal but not be able to use it as a web Cam doesn't matter about FPS though, at least get to use it....
J
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Hi every one. I believe I'm pretty much like most of the people on this forum, a proud owner of a Imate Jasjar. unfortunately I use it in the US with T-Mobile. Needless to say that under such conditions the jasjar is almost useless because of the abscence of a reliable 3G network. I was wondering why there isn't any developer or company working to develop an Instant messaging software that would support the use of the front camera on the Qtek 9000/Jasjar? I completely understand that represent a lot of work and certainly don't expect it to be free. I'd find it normal to pay for it. I believe if we can afford a $700 phone we could certainly afford a $30-50 application without causing serious harm to our wallet. I would think the market would be significantly big enough concidering that the Jasjar and the Htc tytn both have a front camera, and I don't mention all the Nokia phone with comparable features.
So I just wanted to share my views on the subject and hope, since this forum gathers quite a few brilliant people that my message would be heard. So if anybody is willing to take the plunge!!???

frenchyjohn said:
Hi every one. I believe I'm pretty much like most of the people on this forum, a proud owner of a Imate Jasjar. unfortunately I use it in the US with T-Mobile. Needless to say that under such conditions the jasjar is almost useless because of the abscence of a reliable 3G network. I was wondering why there isn't any developer or company working to develop an Instant messaging software that would support the use of the front camera on the Qtek 9000/Jasjar? I completely understand that represent a lot of work and certainly don't expect it to be free. I'd find it normal to pay for it. I believe if we can afford a $700 phone we could certainly afford a $30-50 application without causing serious harm to our wallet. I would think the market would be significantly big enough concidering that the Jasjar and the Htc tytn both have a front camera, and I don't mention all the Nokia phone with comparable features.
So I just wanted to share my views on the subject and hope, since this forum gathers quite a few brilliant people that my message would be heard. So if anybody is willing to take the plunge!!???
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seriously, I willl pay like $20 for it... alot more fun if we can use th cam

Videochat software?

Ok, windows Live messenger mobile doesn't support it, neither skype... so the frontal cam of the trinity is useless?
Is it possible that the only way to make a video connection is a videocall? Doesn't really exist any software able to establish a videochat messenger like?

You can't say "it is useless except for video call" since this is exactly what it was designed for: 3G video call.
I understand that you prefer to use it for free, or cheaper through wifi connexion etc. and I wish I could do the same too.
Nevertheless, as far as I know, there is so far, only one sof which can allow you to make 'Instant messaging with video' on PPC, it is called Microsoft portrait. Something between Live Messenger and net-meeting...
There are two things which are not going to make you happy though.
1)
Video go through the rear camera, not the front one.
2)
Sounds as for other messengers, go through back speaker, not the ear-piece.
I had it installed a year ago on my wizard, but since I knew nobody using the same soft, I've never been able to test it out so far.
I'm ready to reinstall it on if you or anyone on this forum is willing to make some tests with me.
There is a version for PC, of course, so it is possible to test it on your PC too.
I heard it can work along with MSN, but both sides must have both softwares installed Live Messenger AND Microsoft Portrait.
You may ask: so what is the big deal about this software? the big deal is that this soft is optimised to use a very small amount of band-width, either 9600 kb (regular gsm connexion) wich gives a quite grey image, or broad band, wich gives you then full colors effect.
http://research.microsoft.com/resea...37d6-b663-45c3-ad4f-a1a500562c9d/details.aspx

maybe ms will change that in a later msg release
maybe in 2009 or 2010
with the efford they put into the platform :S

Rudegar said:
maybe ms will change that in a later msg release
maybe in 2009 or 2010
with the efford they put into the platform :S
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Actually, technically, it is already possible in a messenger application, from Tencent in China: QQ2007. And it uses the front camera.
The problem is that Tencent want to make a living out of this service, therefore, you have to be connected through the 3G service of a Chinese Telecom Operator, otherwise, it doesn't allow you to sign in...
Unlike previous version of QQ, when you are connected through wifi it doesn't work on the windows mobile version. There is a walk-around for nokia version, but nothing for windows mobile...
It's really a pity cause the technology is there, it's just a matter of that they don't want to provide it for free.

There are a freeware software for videochat: packetbone (an old release)
Another option is iFon from http://www.tabletmedia.com/ifon.html , seems the best solution for now
Best Regards Happy New Year!

APOLO_br said:
There are a freeware software for videochat: packetbone (an old release)
Another option is iFon from http://www.tabletmedia.com/ifon.html , seems the best solution for now
Best Regards Happy New Year!
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I've not understood whether this app can videocall msn contacts or not, and what kind of contacts is able to videocall...

the front camera isn't useless....
i use it instead a mirror to shave myself... hehehe

Android on HD7 (This is 100% real)

I can't believe that its already happened but The HD7 has gotten an android port.
http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/htc-hd7-gets-android-via-cooked-chinese-rom-video

Pretty slick. I would love to see Android on my LG Quantum. lol
My main issue w/ WP7 is that the APIs/apps don't exist ( sockets for 1 ) for doing things like streaming video ( a la orb ) and offline gps navigation.

ycavan said:
Pretty slick. I would love to see Android on my LG Quantum. lol
My main issue w/ WP7 is that the APIs/apps don't exist ( sockets for 1 ) for doing things like streaming video ( a la orb ) and offline gps navigation.
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What are you talking about? You can easily stream video to a WP7 device. Same goes for offline navigation.

Is it real 100% ?
Because they didn't provide any method and this a month of April fool day,
and one more.. how did they do it with what HSPL ??
Source of this video : XDA.CN

try setting up orb & go to mycast.orb.com, login & try to stream anything... ie on wp7 refuses to play any container, even asx files.
& offline nav... which offline nav app have you found in the Marketplace? Right now, I use TomTom 7 on my wm 6.5 phone. I also have A-to-B on my Quantum, but that is not an offline solution.
Navigon has to be side-loaded ( 'cause I have yet to find North American Navigon ) and then tricked into downloading NA maps from a local web server... so not very legit there.
Don't get me wrong, I do like Netflix and Facebook integration in wp7... I'm just irritated that this device was handicapped w/ the lack of APIs for normal daily stuff.

ycavan said:
Don't get me wrong, I do like Netflix and Facebook integration in wp7... I'm just irritated that this device was handicapped w/ the lack of APIs for normal daily stuff.
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It has nothing to do with API's being missing - all the API's you need (for these two purposes) are there. If I'm not mistaken there are a few Orb clients in the works - but my point was that you can stream to WP7 just fine. Heck, you can stream directly from your Media Center PC at home over 3G if you set it up right.
As for Navigon - you're correct, it's exclusive to TMODE, but the app exists and works just fine, again showing you that all the API's are infact there. The only non-standard APIs Navigon use are those to identify your IMEI and IMSI, which would not be needed were the app not exclusive in the first place.

I'd rather see WP7 ported to Android phones than the other way around. The hardware is so much better on the Android side, I'm not sure why anyone would ever want to do this.

Why would anyone want to downgrade the OS??

I love my hd7....but I would like to see this come to life. Fingers crossed.

^^^ I wouldn't necessarily call it a downgrade... More like a 2nd option. I wouldn't mind having it.
Sent from my {HD7} using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

krjcook said:
^^^ I wouldn't necessarily call it a downgrade... More like a 2nd option. I wouldn't mind having it.
Sent from my {HD7} using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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Exactly.
Kinda like having windows 7 and Ubuntu dual boot...kinda

I'll say do I want android
I stopped developing for HD2 android to get wp7...I don't want to go back. Period

I would love to have this as an option. I'd still primarily use WP7 but it'd be great to duel boot and be able to use Android when I need or want something that is not yet available for WP7. I'd love it just to play Abduction! World Attack and for Google Nav.

I would love to be able to put android on my hd7.
Please give me more options guys!
Thanks!

Eww. I'd rather be able to dual boot WM6.5.3. Android is just a rip off of iPhone and WM6.5 anyways...

eternalemb said:
Eww. I'd rather be able to dual boot WM6.5.3. Android is just a rip off of iPhone and WM6.5 anyways...
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Which both ripped off of Palm OS (aka Garnet OS).

Please explain how Windows Mobile ripped off Garnet OS or any Palm Product...
Nevermind... You can't.

Don't see how this is possible without HSPL or Haret, he probably just put an HD7 front side case on some Android device.
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how the hell did you guys go from Android on an HD7 to the same old idiotic "oh man WP7 sucks, WP7 is awesome, WM6.5.x sucks, Palm is awesome"
this has nothing to do with any of that garbage.

$5 says this thread will soon be full of the usual suspects bashing WP7 and its missing features.

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Don't see how this is possible without HSPL or Haret, he probably just put an HD7 front side case on some Android device.
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how the hell did you guys go from Android on an HD7 to the same old idiotic "oh man WP7 sucks, WP7 is awesome, WM6.5.x sucks, Palm is awesome"
this has nothing to do with any of that garbage.
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its possible they used jtag for this...

Can Some WP7 Users Test A Website For Me?

Hello...
I'm working on a mobile version of a website and I don't know anyone with windows phone 7.
Would a couple people be willing to try and break it and tell me if something doesn't work?
I have access to test with windows mobile 6.5, android, iphone, and blackberry.
http://www.flcbranson.org/mobile.php
Thanks...
JJ

Looked good to me. Navigation was clean and fast, and the audio links all worked fine.
The only problem I saw was that all of the "Most recent" links on the free downloads page took me to the same place - the current schedule page.

Oh, boy...
Thanks for pointing that out.
I used ? instead of &.
JJ

That showed up another problem.
Apparently, my code on listseries.php was funked and it showed the same Recent Messages instead of the messages for each series.
JJ

Functioned well for me on a Samsung focus
Sent from my SGH-i917 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

Runs smooth and looks good on my HD7.

Do the mp3 links just start playing or does it require the file to download and open separately?
WM6.5 only downloads.
JJ

They started playing immediately for me.

it is working very well

Hello, again...
Would some of you wp7 guys test another link for me?
I'm working on some streaming mp4 video and it's working for iphone/ipad, but not android or desktops.
I'm wondering if it works for wp7.
http://www.flcbranson.org/iphone.html
Thanks...
JJ

Fa310tx said:
Hello, again...
Would some of you wp7 guys test another link for me?
I'm working on some streaming mp4 video and it's working for iphone/ipad, but not android or desktops.
I'm wondering if it works for wp7.
http://www.flcbranson.org/iphone.html
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JJ
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No, it does not work. It tries to play it as a video (in full screen), but then it says that it can not play the video. Are you using a video format that Windows Phone 7 is supposed to support?

I don't have the foggiest idea.
It's a live stream that is going through a third-party streaming company (we encode, live, and stream to them, then everyone connects to them for the stream).
I've just implimented the code that they provided and it works for apple devices, but nothing else.
JJ
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Apparently, it works on a mac with safari, but not windows with safari.
JJ

Sorry, we can't play this file on your phone.

Fa310tx said:
Hello, again...
Would some of you wp7 guys test another link for me?
http://www.flcbranson.org/iphone.html
Thanks...
JJ
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I get a white page that says "Live" in the top left. This is the same whether I choose "desktop" or "mobile" settings in my browser
Sent from my SGH-i917 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

Hello, again...
http://66.119.8.164/xml-freedownloads.php
I'm not concerned about how things look or function, just what background color shows up in portrait and landscape.
In theory, it should be blue for portrait and orange for landscape.
Please test with any browswer that windows phone 7 supports, if possible.
Thanks...
JJ

Seems to work with IE9 (WP build 7712)
However you can't read headlines/Links in portrait mode since they blend with the blue background

Color changes (so does the font size but i'm guessing that has to do with whatever you tied to the orientation). So to verify above, you're good on the 7712 mango build.

Yeah, the functionality of it is meaningless, at the moment.
I was in the middle of testing some xml loading and decided to try some css media query stuff.
It's lame, though, as my windows mobile 6.5 internet explorer isn't using media="handheld" or min/max-width.
JJ

Worked perfectly here.