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Root issues HTC Desire

Hi all, hope this is in the right section.
I rooted my Desire last night using unRevoked 3.3 with the intention of removing all the bloatware on my phone and forcing most of the apps onto the sd card.
My phone seems to have rooted fine, i have the Superuser Permissions application on there, and Titanium backup pro seems to be working too.
Now when i use Titanium backup to try and remove programs such as Stocks, News and Weather, News etc... I click on the app in the list, click un-install and then it tells me its uninstalled. However the apps still appear in my menu and are still there following a reboot. Ive also tried another method using Super Manager and that doesent seem to work either. The apps are still there following them being 'uninstalled'.
Also, similar situation with the SD card, i downloaded Move2SD enabler and that doesent seem to let me move certain apps like Maps, Facebook and others.
Any idea where im going wrong? Im on stock 2.2. My phone is in debug usb mode too.
Any help would be great.
Cheers

The apps you want to remove/move are system apps in stock roms. So you cannot do such things, because you are not s-off. But you might be able to do the things you want with adb:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Barebones
How to install adb:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Howto:_Install_the_Android_SDK

Or just delete specified .apk's from the .zip file before flashing.

k3lcior said:
Or just delete specified .apk's from the .zip file before flashing.
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He did not flash a rom. He is just using stock rom. There is nothing to delete from a zip file, because there is no zip file he wants to flash.

Then what i suggest is flashing custom ROM and customize it just how you like, you wont need to S-OFF. (which is much more risky than flashing a ROM)
What i would also try is application called "SystemAppRemover", i'm using it for removing all the system bloatware which you mentioned, but im S-OFF so i cannot guarantee it will work.

k3lcior said:
Then what i suggest is flashing custom ROM and customize it just how you like, you wont need to S-OFF. (which is much more risky than flashing a ROM)
What i would also try is application called "SystemAppRemover", i'm using it for removing all the system bloatware which you mentioned, but im S-OFF so i cannot guarantee it will work.
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Maybe he wants to stay with stock rom? If he wants to flash custom rom, I guess he would have asked for it.
To remove system apps in running system with an app, you have to be s-off.

MatDrOiD said:
Maybe he wants to stay with stock rom? If he wants to flash custom rom, I guess he would have asked for it.
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I guess you know better than him, fine.

k3lcior said:
I guess you know better than him, fine.
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It was just a clue, had nothing to do with knowledge.
Nevertheless, we should stop filling this thread with our senseless discussion.

haha thanks for the responses guys!
ive been looking at all the custom roms and whilst most of them look pretty cool, im quite happy with whats already on there at the moment, im just bored of seeing my phone telling me i dont have enough internal space etc... so i wanted to root and move as many apps onto the sd card as possible and delete all the unwanted stuff that im constantly closing in taskiller.
i did read something about putting the phone into s-off mode, i guess this is the way to go in regards to deleting the unwanted system apps?
also i believe that i cannot move facebook or google maps onto the sd card, am i correct?

Best option is flashing custom ROM, you could remove any apps you want from the flashable .zip file, and give you an unlimited storage for apps - A2SD. (well limited by SD Card capacity)
You can also S-OFF and remove apps you dont want, but it will barely help as you will probably still run with "low internal storage" errors at some point.
Also with stock ROM you are running, most apps wont be able to move onto SD anyways.
There are custom rom's based on Froyo 2.2 if you like it.

i guess i will look into flashing a ROM. i didnt really want to do that as i didnt want to have to reinstall everything etc... but i guess its the only way i will be satisifed lol.

Just make backup with Titanium Backup and then restore it.

[Q] Leedroid problem. Need help!

Apparently I can't post this in the development forums cause I have less than 10 posts
Anyways, I've S-offed my desire, partitioned my SD card, flashed the newest Leedroid Sense Rom, and after installing Handscent (the only app I've installed so far) I am un-able to install anything else as my phone gives me an out of space error. This Rom came with a whole bunch of apps I didn't use before (switched from Oxygen because I wanted the new sense)
How can I move all those apps to the SD card?
Also, anyone know where I can get the Sense 3.0 dock with the ring? I love that!
Thank you!
P.S Please don't flog me! lol. I did so much reading my eyes are square now and it's possible I may have missed this being asked and answered

trauma_junkie said:
Apparently I can't post this in the development forums cause I have less than 10 posts
Anyways, I've S-offed my desire, partitioned my SD card, flashed the newest Leedroid Sense Rom, and after installing Handscent (the only app I've installed so far) I am un-able to install anything else as my phone gives me an out of space error. This Rom came with a whole bunch of apps I didn't use before (switched from Oxygen because I wanted the new sense)
How can I move all those apps to the SD card?
Also, anyone know where I can get the Sense 3.0 dock with the ring? I love that!
Thank you!
P.S Please don't flog me! lol. I did so much reading my eyes are square now and it's possible I may have missed this being asked and answered
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don't worry there is a lot to read, can be very
1. Have you tried clearing the cache and data of Market in Manage Applications? I've found sometimes deleting data of 'Download Manager' and 'Updater' works too, basically anything linked with market. Keep trying until the Market decides to download again.
2. Apps should be installed to the SD card by default if you partitioned your card directly. Use Quick System Info PRO (free) to check, assuming your market is working by then, it'll show how much space is being used on each partition. Keep the apps "on the phone", no need to manually "move to SD", as they are fooled into being installed on the ext partition. App data will still take up internal memory, the FAQ linked below explains it very well.
3. Install the Sense 3.0 addon pack on the first page, flash via recovery. I've not tried it myself as I read that it can cause the phone to be very laggy.
Hope this helps. There's a very good FAQ and mod thread linked on every page of the Leedroid thread if you need more help, i've found them the most useful.

[Q] Steps to do after rooting Desire ?

I have finally found some time to root my desire. After rooting will use the device for a while then will think about custom ROM.
I wanted to know,
1) What are the immediate things to do after rooting my HTC Desire?
I was thinking...
- remove google maps app
- remove gmail app
- remove facebook app
- remove youtube app
- .... .... .....
don't know what are the bloatware on Desire... just need to remove and cleanse it
Edit:
Also wanted to know, what apps can be installed to use after rooting which will enhance usage of my HTC Desire.
i remember only one app - Titanium Backup
2) Need suggestions for more apps ??

Glad to hear your intentions too many people run into trouble after not reading the info on here after rooting...........I was one

I think the purpose of rooting a phone is to install custom rom.. you can also play with stock rom, but that doesn't give you a lot of "fun" yet !

Sad to see only 2 replies which were non informative
I finally rooted my desire.
The unrevoked tutorial helped but, i never got the 5th option of Hboot USB. So had to read some threads and gave it a go by installing the USB drivers and then running the unrevoked.
after rooting, i installed few apps
Titanium Backup
SystemAppRemover
My Backup Pro
Adfree
Then, took backups using Titanium and My Backup.
Next used Adfree, though it says it blocks the ads... it doesnt... anyone want to give inputs for this ?
regarding apps to remove, i need inputs so that i can remove only apps which will not cause issues. My primary criteria is to free up phone memory as much as i can.
regarding the ROM, i have a 4 GB SD card, i was planning to go for a 8 GB and then install ROM. Can anyone tell me with 8 GB is the a drop of performance ?

[Q] Samsung Galaxy Y

Hello again, I love the galaxy y but My internal memory is only 160MB and it's almost full and now I can't install any more apps I already moved all the apps I could to the SD Card ....
Is there any way to free up some pc or any way to remove that f**king bloatware from samsung ?
Thanks in advance (this forum is awesome)

GianniDPC said:
Hello again, I love the galaxy y but My internal memory is only 160MB and it's almost full and now I can't install any more apps I already moved all the apps I could to the SD Card ....
Is there any way to free up some pc or any way to remove that f**king bloatware from samsung ?
Thanks in advance (this forum is awesome)
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Go for the HTC One S

cliff0796 said:
Go for the HTC One S
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Lol too late xc

I was looking at this one,
We needed a bunch of phones to run Google Authenticator on (so nothing fancy), but for normal use 256MB of RAM is not much.
I come across the HTC Explorer, which has 512MB, better screen and is around 130eur.

try uninstalling unwanted apps on the system like email,maps, etc. But be careful of what you uninstall! This may lead to boot loop. And bricking you're phone. Try reading google docs. You can uninstall it using Titanium Backup.
If you're memory too low, try partitioning you're sd card.

I just partitioned my sdcard, and used link2sd.
I'm on a stock rom btw, but fully rooted.
After setting it up, it worked fine. No conflicts on start up and the second partition mounted fine.
Only thing that was weird, is after linking all apps to card, there was a mount error, and in log on /data for link2sd, it said phone or resources busy.
Reboot again, and it's fine. I tried it, and booted several times now with no more problems. It's just the one mount error. Perhaps a slight bug but it's fine now.
I partitioned my card with the cwm zip skin done, in developer section (madteamgalaxyY.zip works too)
So give link2sd a try.
I've close to 100 applications installed, and i've still got almost 159mb space on internal memory.
I also removed all the bloat from the rom too, that I didn't want.
So if you're rooted, or know what you're doing, then I'd advise you on the above.
If your not root savvy, then look it up, google it, and research, so you know what you're doing lolz.
I know a lot now, but I'm still only a rookie, and no developer by any standards. Just a user who's more savvy, and not too scared to mess up.
Good luck, and hope that helps.
If your not rooted, just search the forums here for the update.zip. to root it via stock recovery if you're comfortable with rooting, and only if you know what you're doing ;-)
As if you mess up, it's on your own head lolz. I'm just giving advice, based on what I did, to solve the space issue on our galaxy y.
Good luck anyways ;-)
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So I need to partition my SD to 2 partitions ?

simonrussell77, Thanks will try that out !!! it would be awesome to get /Data on my sdcard but another question :S what bloatware apps are safe to remove ??

GianniDPC said:
So I need to partition my SD to 2 partitions ?
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Yup, like I said. But if you wish to partition your card by computer, then google and forum search is your friend ;-)
But personally, using the cwm zip, on the developer forum section does the job fine. Just search for it ;-)
GianniDPC said:
simonrussell77, Thanks will try that out !!! it would be awesome to get /Data on my sdcard but another question :S what bloatware apps are safe to remove ??
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This list shows which ones are safe and which ones are not. I used this list. I can't remember who posted this list here originally, but I remember bookmarking it. (Apologies to original poster, if I haven't credited you, but I can't remember who you are)
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...=0Ag43oj7rLQP4dENZcmhGN0ZUa3pHSENVeXlqUm5vV0E
That should get you on your way.
And finally if you want my advice, please read FAQ's in the link2sd app menu, in about section and visit the developers site, as there is a lot of information that will help you further, and will help educate you on things you may not be sure on. It helped me, a lot.
I didn't ask questions, when I was learning new tricks, I just educated myself by searching here and via google, as some people moan if you ask before searching, but I don't mind telling if I know or remember lolz.
Anyways, good luck.
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you have given him a full tutorial simon. thats a generous of you.
I definetely agree when simon said that google and search menu is our best friend here. please use them before asking anything. most of more experienced user will ignore this kind of post. it is more wise to put any kind of question to the FAQ section. you're welcomed to ask anything there. please don't be hesitate to ask us there.

Yeah right .. search first before asking/posting.. Search engines will always be your bestfriend..
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Lol, well it worked but is it normal my phone is booting slower now.... I linked everything to the SD Card.
Thanks in advance and sorry again

plzzz....
im also use link2sd
but when i link apps which r one sd card to 2nd partition the internal get full....
Plzzz help
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160 mb?
GianniDPC said:
Hello again, I love the galaxy y but My internal memory is only 160MB and it's almost full and now I can't install any more apps I already moved all the apps I could to the SD Card ....
Is there any way to free up some pc or any way to remove that f**king bloatware from samsung ?
Thanks in advance (this forum is awesome)
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How come your galaxy y has only 160 MB as internal memory? mine has 190 MB.

Another thing
Another thing I noticed is that it keeps telling me my internal memory is low even when the installed apps probably occupy only about 35 MB.
I'm considering doing a factory reset.

How to backup and wipe

I'm kinda tired of the stock rom, neverending lacks of internal memory and my sd is empty... Now is 7mb, yesterday was 20mb of free, what I did from yesterday is 2 times call and 1 sms.
I need space, have 16 gigs SD card (900mb used) I want to remove all the build apps (facebook, htc apps...), root the phone (best would be option to fast change rooted/not rooted).
>>#Question 1: Is there a posibility to install Google Play without GMail, Maps etc?
I bought a book and want to start learning developing Android apps, now I can't do nothing on my phone because of no internal space problems.
Before that all I would like to NOT ROOT this stock rom (s-on) and backup everything (with apps, settings, photos, sms's) and store the backup to the PC and s-off it, wipe all internal memory and install something to try. When custom roms will not satisfy me I want to install this backup back and have everything as is now.
>>#Question 2: Is this possible? And how?

Installing custom roms without root ?
That can be compared to buying a Ferrari with a V2 engine.
Also, I'm not sure that it's possible.
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iXmerof said:
I'm kinda tired of the stock rom, neverending lacks of internal memory and my sd is empty... Now is 7mb, yesterday was 20mb of free, what I did from yesterday is 2 times call and 1 sms.
I need space, have 16 gigs SD card (900mb used) I want to remove all the build apps (facebook, htc apps...), root the phone (best would be option to fast change rooted/not rooted).
>>#Question 1: Is there a posibility to install Google Play without GMail, Maps etc?
I bought a book and want to start learning developing Android apps, now I can't do nothing on my phone because of no internal space problems.
Before that all I would like to NOT ROOT this stock rom (s-on) and backup everything (with apps, settings, photos, sms's) and store the backup to the PC and s-off it, wipe all internal memory and install something to try. When custom roms will not satisfy me I want to install this backup back and have everything as is now.
>>#Question 2: Is this possible? And how?
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You can take a complete backup or your current Stock ROM after rooting your device by either s-off or unlocked bootloader and install ClockworkMod recovery for your model. Then thru CWM you can take a backup. (Keep a copy safe on PC)
After this try installing your Custom ROMs of your choice.
If you are not satisfied with that, you can get back your Stock ROM thru CWM Recovery option.
Hope this may be useful. (If really, Just press 'Thanks")

I hope that without rooting or Unlocked Bootloader it is not possible to install a custom recovery such as Touch recovery or ClockworkMod Recovery. by that recovery only we are able to backup.
and it is also possible to return back to stock ROM (with Locked HBOOT and no more ***UNLOCKED*** logo by the Supervision method).
infact i checked in my A510E. so no problem....

Installing custom roms without root ?
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No, I wanted to backup not rooted stock firmware to have not rooted copy, after this root, s-off and everything what I have to do to install new fw.
You can take a complete backup or your current Stock ROM after rooting your device by either s-off or unlocked bootloader and install ClockworkMod recovery for your model. Then thru CWM you can take a backup. (Keep a copy safe on PC)
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I hope that without rooting or Unlocked Bootloader it is not possible to install a custom recovery such as Touch recovery or ClockworkMod Recovery. by that recovery only we are able to backup.
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So the only way is to first root my device (and make s-off too?) then make a backup? When I will restore this backed-up-rooted rom is a possibility to revert back it to non rooted state?

Ah, now I get it.
You can flash a custom recovery without root, use the search function to find out how.
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"You can overclock as much as you want, your phone will always seem too slow."

iXmerof said:
I'm kinda tired of the stock rom, neverending lacks of internal memory and my sd is empty... Now is 7mb, yesterday was 20mb of free, what I did from yesterday is 2 times call and 1 sms.
I need space, have 16 gigs SD card (900mb used) I want to remove all the build apps (facebook, htc apps...), root the phone (best would be option to fast change rooted/not rooted).
>>#Question 1: Is there a posibility to install Google Play without GMail, Maps etc?
I bought a book and want to start learning developing Android apps, now I can't do nothing on my phone because of no internal space problems.
Before that all I would like to NOT ROOT this stock rom (s-on) and backup everything (with apps, settings, photos, sms's) and store the backup to the PC and s-off it, wipe all internal memory and install something to try. When custom roms will not satisfy me I want to install this backup back and have everything as is now.
>>#Question 2: Is this possible? And how?
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you cannot remove any system app without root..!
by removing those gmail and maps won't increase your internel memory..it will increase space in system partition which is non-usable ..
have you tried apps2sd..?:good:

kantry123 said:
you cannot remove any system app without root..!
by removing those gmail and maps won't increase your internel memory..it will increase space in system partition which is non-usable ..
have you tried apps2sd..?:good:
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Those apps would be removed on cfw, not this stock one - stock has to stay as is with no change, saved to PC and removed from the smartphone.
I have installed apps2sd and installed only 2 apps (keyboard and qrcode reader) on internal memory only, doesn't helps. Google Maps is unused and weights only 2mb. I have 15 apps on SD, all are needed - uninstalling one makes more place on internal too. HTC Gallery non stop cries that it's not enough space to open pictures and movies (7mb free of internal) so I have to remove the stock and use data2sd to make ext partition on SD, that's my only idea.
P.S.
Is there any way to make folders not only on desktop but on all apps menu too? I can leave Sense for this option

App2sd is no good without root.
Everything you want to do requires root.
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iXmerof said:
Those apps would be removed on cfw, not this stock one - stock has to stay as is with no change, saved to PC and removed from the smartphone.
I have installed apps2sd and installed only 2 apps (keyboard and qrcode reader) on internal memory only, doesn't helps. Google Maps is unused and weights only 2mb. I have 15 apps on SD, all are needed - uninstalling one makes more place on internal too. HTC Gallery non stop cries that it's not enough space to open pictures and movies (7mb free of internal) so I have to remove the stock and use data2sd to make ext partition on SD, that's my only idea.
P.S.
Is there any way to make folders not only on desktop but on all apps menu too? I can leave Sense for this option
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Hey,
Don't be confused or think too much. If you loose one, you will get one...!!!
If you are ready to loose warranty & clear about what you do, then go ahead.
you can get more benefits by exploring the device....
You can't touch the system files without unlocking or rooted !.
Once you are unlocked the bootloader thru HTCdev.com you can't claim your warranty, Even though you install back the Original Stock ROM (Until I know but verify).
If you are rooted you can get more benefits Like,
1.Get more internal memory by installing Link2sd !! (No other way)
2. Install latest ROM's, Etc...
Hope this will help you....

Senthamil said:
Hey,
Don't be confused or think too much. If you loose one, you will get one...!!!
If you are ready to loose warranty & clear about what you do, then go ahead.
you can get more benefits by exploring the device....
You can't touch the system files without unlocking or rooted !.
Once you are unlocked the bootloader thru HTCdev.com you can't claim your warranty, Even though you install back the Original Stock ROM (Until I know but verify).
If you are rooted you can get more benefits Like,
1.Get more internal memory by installing Link2sd !! (No other way)
2. Install latest ROM's, Etc...
Hope this will help you....
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All you said I knew before, but thanks for helping - I very appreciate that.
I don't worry about warranty because I don't have it (self changed LCD screen after break). If root/cfw will not satisfy me I want go to non rooted state and don't lose all settings, apps, old market and everything what I have now (or cook something alone, but now I'm too green for it) - that's me by nature, I'm always making copies of anything.
I know that root is great, because of new possibilities. Mostly what I want from root is: space from SD as space for apps, OC (but pity that there is no chance for psx 3D emulation, 2D works great), firewall, deodexed files to modify some panels (add/change/remove options from ex. notification area).
Why I would to have switch between root/not rooted? Because HTC needs some licenses for advanced SDK (available on root freely) and I will test my future apps on the android state which most of peoples have - it's the only Android device I have. And not rooted state for daily use (without installing anything) is much easier I think.
This switch is not must be for me , I'm focusing to backup what I have now and then s-off it and try some cfw's.
My pathway: backup stock -> s-off/root -> root/s-off -> wipe -> install cfw. I don't want to modify stock rom without root, I don't want to touch something in stock, after backup it would be unlocked and tested, explored, modified and more more.
If it is not possible in that way I will think about some new ways what to do. It's my phone for daily use, I need it for to work and I'm not having always time to play with dev things and I'll have to fast revert back all changes (and backup what I've done to restore at free time). I don't have money for second one.

Backup stock>only possible with root/custom recovery
S-off>only possible with xtc clip
What you're asking is to run unrooted everyday, but root now and then for dev'ing. Might as well keep root for everyday use.
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"You can overclock as much as you want, your phone will always seem too slow."