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which usb cable?

Hi folks,
i want to order a few usb cables to have handy for charging at work/home/car etc..
Which one should i oder though?
USB Male to Mini 5 Pins USB Cable 120cm
http://www.priceangels.com/USB_Male_to_Mini_5_Pins_USB_Cable_120cm_p1148.html
or this one?
USB Male to Mini 4 Pins USB Cable 140cm
http://www.priceangels.com/USB_Male_to_Mini_4_Pins_USB_Cable_140cm_p1143.html
These guys are cheap.. but shipping can take a few weeks.. any uk alternatives with prices that keen?
Cheers,
Mick

It's the 5-pin one.
It's actually stated on the Desire's specs page on HTC.com
http://www.htc.com/www/product/desire/specification.html
Edit: My bad! As mentioned by below posters, it should be 5-pin micro USB

micks_address said:
Hi folks,
i want to order a few usb cables to have handy for charging at work/home/car etc..
Which one should i oder though?
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Both of the linked cabled say they're mini-USB, I'm fairly sure the Desire uses "Micro" USB (Even smaller ).
Still waiting on my Desire to arrive, but the HTC site says micro too.

neither will fit, as above you need micro usb leads.
i just bought a couple of blackberry data ones from ebay (very cheap)
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_..._nkw=micro+usb+data&_sacat=See-All-Categories

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nokia-CA-101-Micro-Data-Cable/dp/B000U6QPFI
I bought 2 of these ones and they seem to be pretty good. Even having a built in clip to wind up the cable.

I confirm, Nokia CA-101D cable is working fine with Desire

bought a blackberry data cable for my desire off ebay for 99p brand new free postage , came in a few days and works fine.
My advice search ebay for
MICRO USB DATA CABLE
highlight buy it nows
then click lowest price first, then thats where i found my 99pencer lol

I bought a cheap alternative usb cable to leave in work for charging, it lasted about 3 days till it packed in, same happened to a cheaper lead a mate bought.

Ive got loads of converters , eg the black berry ones... a few quid there fine ...

Micro-USB to HDMI TV-out cable

Well the title says it all, did any of you guys/gals tried to use a micro-USB to HDMI cable to try and get tv-out of higher quality than current component cables?
I know some Samsung phones had that option(usb to HDMI) and I know android OS supports it, but many companies have been known for blocking this option however. Samsung themselves even offered the cable, but it is now out of stock.
Also, does anyone know where to get this cable for less than $30+? I would try it out but that price just seems like a rip-off!
Plus does anyone know where the restriction the manufacturer puts on usb to hdmi video output is lcoated at? (in the anroid OS parameters)
Thnx!

I believe the Captivate can only do TV out through the Headphone jack, not the micro USB prot. But don't quote me on that. Check out this video.

i read a review that said the phone could do tv out through micro usb to hdmi but the cable from samsung is too expensive and sold out to boot.

hollywould said:
I believe the Captivate can only do TV out through the Headphone jack, not the micro USB prot. But don't quote me on that. Check out this video.
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The Captivate can in fact produce TVout via a MicroUSB - to - HDMI cable. You just need the cable and your good to go.
However some DRM Protected files may not play correctly on your TV

Samsung released a page with it on it. Its out of stock, but will be priced at $50! I think that's way too much, hopefully there will be cheaper options out there.
The samsung item is Product ID: ECC1HU0BBEBSTD

Does anybody know if the HDMI cable will power the phone at the same time as using it? I have read that the HDMI spec provides a 5V power supply and was wondering if that carried over with this cable (or correct me if I'm wrong on that). It doesn't sound like anybody has been able to find these cables anywhere yet, but I was just curious if I should be excited at the prospect or dismiss it entirely knowing that it'll kill the phone's battery...

gonna hafta pick up this cable sooon when its available...

I'll buy it if it works like the 3.5mm headphone jack video. IE, it displays anything, rather than just a few supported things.

Cheap deal
Found this while searching for that cable. Looks like you can get a replica cable for $3.60. Out of stock of course.
http://www.myluxphone.com/samsung-ecc1hu0bbebstd-tv-out-cable-micro-usb-to-hdmi.html
Also found the Samsung official one for $50 that is currently out of stock.
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/...detail&subsubtype=data-cables-kits&returnurl=

pezx44 said:
Does anybody know if the HDMI cable will power the phone at the same time as using it? I have read that the HDMI spec provides a 5V power supply and was wondering if that carried over with this cable (or correct me if I'm wrong on that). It doesn't sound like anybody has been able to find these cables anywhere yet, but I was just curious if I should be excited at the prospect or dismiss it entirely knowing that it'll kill the phone's battery...
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The pictures of the cable show a port of some sort, on the HDMI end. It looks like there is a picture of a power plug just above the port. I'm guessing you can plug your micro-usb charger into the HDMI end, and charge your phone that way.

Quick thought on this guys. There's no proprietary magic going on so someone should try the micro to standard usb then get a usb to hdmi cable. I hate to string cables together but data is data and in lieu of waiting or paying 50 bucks, I'm gonna try a two adapter method. Probably cost 20 or less not 50.
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sevenvt said:
Quick thought on this guys. There's no proprietary magic going on so someone should try the micro to standard usb then get a usb to hdmi cable. I hate to string cables together but data is data and in lieu of waiting or paying 50 bucks, I'm gonna try a two adapter method. Probably cost 20 or less not 50.
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Give us a shout if it works then! Buy cheap from www.dealextreme.com

Try these this is the best place i have found for cables
http://www.monoprice.com/products/s...deo+Cables+-+Micro-HDMI/HDMI&keyword=usb hdmi

thumper_1151 said:
Try these this is the best place i have found for cables
http://www.monoprice.com/products/s...deo+Cables+-+Micro-HDMI/HDMI&keyword=usb hdmi
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Need to pay better attention, those cables will not work. You need a microUSB to HDMI not a microHDMI to HDMI cable.

Thnx for replies, I also posted this on another android forum and it seems there are just no shops that currently sell it. I called couple of big suppliers and they all say that it should be arriving soon.
So it seems we just going to have to wait this one out.
$50 for a 2 ft cable makes even the ever so expensive rip-off cables from Monster Cable co. cry. lol

I was hoping this would work, I emailed Samsung to see what they had to say. Their response was not what I was hoping....
Hopefully its a case of the customer service rep not knowing anything. But its looking like these cables are only for some pmp style devices Samsung makes. It would be nice if someone can confirm this.
The way it sounds is if you want anything better than composite video out, you will have to use DLNA.
On Monday, August 2, 2010, SAMSUNG ERMS
> Dear XXXX,
> ****Thank you for your inquiry. The part number ECC1HU0BBEBSTD
> for a *Samsung TV Out cable is different.
> ****The part number of the Samsung TV Out cable for Galaxy
> S device is ECC1TX1BBEGSTA. If you need more information about this issue, you
> can log on to the Samsung.com.
> ****We also invite you to contact Samsung Customer Care
> at your earliest convenience through our toll free number 1-888-987-HELP (1-888-987-4357)
>
> ****Thank you for your continued interest in Samsung
> products.
> Sincerely,
> Technical Support
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Clockwork Mod Recovery
HI,
Off this subject, but I noticed you are running the Clockwork Mod Recovery on a Rooted Captivate. Can you point me in the right direction for accomplishing this?
Sharon
warri said:
The Captivate can in fact produce TVout via a MicroUSB - to - HDMI cable. You just need the cable and your good to go.
However some DRM Protected files may not play correctly on your TV
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This cable:
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/...subsubtype=data-cables-kits&tab=accCompatible
Is not compatible with the Captivate.

rkorzuch said:
This cable:
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/...subsubtype=data-cables-kits&tab=accCompatible
Is not compatible with the Captivate.
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Samsung changed its tune about the cable working with the Vibrant and Captivate. So either they made a mistake and removed the cable from the page(s). Or they are going to announce the cable when they have the software to make it happen done.
They probably made a mistake, however on both captivate and vibrant seems slightly more unlikely.

Very fishy indeed, like always samsung is in some kind of a cover-up... in any way the guy I was talking to said they special ordered them and they have arrived now.
Here is the link...
www .cellularaccessory.com/ecc1hu0bbeb.html (remove spaces of course...)
Not much better than samsungs price but at least they have them in stock...
Someone should buy this and see if it works lol
Or you all can contribute a dollar or something and I wil lbuy it myself for testing.

Micro USB

I need a longer micro USB to USB Cable (about 6' to replace the one that came with it). Can I just get any cable or will the quality effect the battery life/phone life?

I got 3 cables on ebay for a buck each. They seem to work fine.

i just used a usb extension cable, but any cable should be fine its the power plug part thats important so it sends the right amount of power to the phone

I believe Monoprice.com you can get 10ft. Cables for around $3.00. I have not bought any in awhile still using the one's I bought last time.
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I second the monoprice.com for all cables.

I'm just using my PS3 cable for the house and my regular one for the car. Seems to work fine for me.

I'm using the cord that came with my Kindle and it works fine.
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I think the USB spec allows for five meters (+15') on cables before it needs a hub, so you certainly should be able to get a longer one.
Be aware that some of the cheap cables are junk. Some are data-only, some are power-only, some are just defective or terribly stiff.

Monoprice.....might as well stock up on some super long hdmi cables while you are there.
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what's the name i should search for in monoprice website?

motoatrix said:
what's the name i should search for in monoprice website?
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usb micro-b
direct link

acabtp said:
usb micro-b
direct link
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thank you for the direct link.

And you don't need the gold plated ferret one. I bought both, and the cheap one with 10ft length works both with motorola charger and when connecting to my laptop.

i thought the atrix used a mini-usb cable? still waiting for mine and was thinking about getting a cable too.

neotekz said:
i thought the atrix used a mini-usb cable? still waiting for mine and was thinking about getting a cable too.
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It uses micro.

monoprice is the **** i got both my tv wall mounts there for under 20 bucks. and they are the same brand model that best buy sells for 100. i laughed in best buys face for that

DarrellRaines said:
I'm just using my PS3 cable for the house and my regular one for the car. Seems to work fine for me.
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...? The PS3 controllers use mini-usb. How are you using them for your Atrix? The Atrix uses micro-usb.

micro female/male hdmi and usb for Lapdock

I bought these on ebay. The HDMI is short but worked but when I connect both cables to lapdock, the USB is not being recognized so the keyboard/mouse is not working. I want this just to act as an extension so I can use full lapdock abilities with cables. Any idea what's going on (cable charges on plug but does not charge on lapdock)? Maybe someone has better usb cables.
fixed the link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/29059482363...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_3046wt_1508
http://www.ebay.com/itm/36042990934...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_2333wt_1010

links appear to be broken...
From your title I've been looking for these (or similar) cables for a long time and have been unsuccessful. However I have yet to try them.

Fixed the link
http://www.ebay.com/itm/29059482363...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_3046wt_1508
http://www.ebay.com/itm/36042990934...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_2333wt_1010

i don't think it will work either way, tried a few things like this with no avail.

why wouldn't they? Cheap build quality that doesn't include the data wires? Hell I'll be willing to splice two cables together to get our desired effect, the only problem is that cords with a female micro usb are incredibly hard to come by

So that is what you think it is? No data on the usb cables.
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mamoranto said:
So that is what you think it is? No data on the usb cables.
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the only reason that is my suspicion is because there are many "charging" products out there that don't really need data. Why there would be a need for such a small charging extension cable is beyond me, but it's the only solution I can think of, but I have no way of confirming or denying it either. The ebay descriptions seem to imply that the data wires are there, but we all know how reliable ebay can be...
Another idea I had was that it might be sensing the resistance in the cable, since, if I remember correctly, that was how some think/though the car dock puts the atrix into car mode without a magnet as is/was commonly used. Again these are just ideas.
Or the cable is just so poorly made that it's defective...I honestly have no clue

Has anyone got full lapdock capabilities using extension cables? I can only get the screen working and not the mouse and keyboard.

The HDMI extender was the hard one to find. There are other micro USB extenders out there, theoretically with all wires connected....
http://www.usbfirewire.com/uextendmicrob.html
Kind of makes me wish i hadn't hacked up my lapdock to work with the Otterbox

Where did you get your HDMI extender? I got mine from All4Cellular but it's quite short. Will have to get another HDMI one if the usb cable you recommended works.

mamoranto said:
Where did you get your HDMI extender? I got mine from All4Cellular but it's quite short. Will have to get another HDMI one if the usb cable you recommended works.
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If you're asking me, i didn't. I was referring to the ebay link in the third post.

grevedan said:
The HDMI extender was the hard one to find. There are other micro USB extenders out there, theoretically with all wires connected....
http://www.usbfirewire.com/uextendmicrob.html
Kind of makes me wish i hadn't hacked up my webtop to work with the Otterbox
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before I read that post, I was looking around the forums and the web yesterday well into the night. here are some of the things I've found that might be relevant to everyone (and it might possibly be cheaper, though more diy).
Micro USB stuff:
I have no idea why this exists http://www.dealextreme.com/p/micro-...r-cable-for-blackberry-9900-black-30cm-107901
I have no idea why this only has 4 pins http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9614
http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10031
mamoranto said:
Where did you get your HDMI extender? I got mine from All4Cellular but it's quite short. Will have to get another HDMI one if the usb cable you recommended works.
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Here's what I am thinking about doing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/140626354628#ht_2821wt_1177 or http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-HDMI-...ultDomain_0&hash=item415eac6dc0#ht_2821wt_980
http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Female-M...YPB4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1329854686&sr=8-2
then the hdmi cable that came with our phone:
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Stan...QTA8/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1329854856&sr=8-8

The HDMI certainly looks like it may work but the reason I didn't buy that product from ebay a few weeks ago was because it was $50. Now miraculously, it's only $6. Maybe I'll get that if the USB cable I just bought that was suggested works a few posts back.

misiek93 said:
why wouldn't they? Cheap build quality that doesn't include the data wires? Hell I'll be willing to splice two cables together to get our desired effect, the only problem is that cords with a female micro usb are incredibly hard to come by
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This micro usb extension cord explicitly states that all 5 wires are connected (compatible with droid bionic for the purpose of docking with a case on the phone):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-E...395?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item335d13272b
I bought the HDMI extension cable and the USB cable above. I have a lapdock so I'll post if it works.

everything asked/answered in here is already covered in the original thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1376679

robrj said:
This micro usb extension cord explicitly states that all 5 wires are connected (compatible with droid bionic for the purpose of docking with a case on the phone):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-E...395?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item335d13272b
I bought the HDMI extension cable and the USB cable above. I have a lapdock so I'll post if it works.
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The HDMI cable seems to work. On the lapdock, with just the HDMI cable hooked up, it functions like it was it's an entertainment center.
The USB cord will need to be modified a little bit. I can't get it to seat right on the USB jack of the dock. I'll need to shave it down a bit as it doesn't sit down snugly.

robrj said:
The HDMI cable seems to work. On the lapdock, with just the HDMI cable hooked up, it functions like it was it's an entertainment center.
The USB cord will need to be modified a little bit. I can't get it to seat right on the USB jack of the dock. I'll need to shave it down a bit as it doesn't sit down snugly.
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I ordered the USB cable and experience this same problem, though I am waiting for my hdmi parts to come in (by April 6th I should have all my parts...). The cable itself works flawlessly as a micro usb extension cable when connecting it to the computer.

again as mentioned in the other thread, you want to be careful with the 5v coming out that micro hdmi port. for connecting back to your phone would be no issue, as the phone charges using this voltage, but hooking the lapdocks micro usb up to a host device probably wont appreciate the 5v coming back up the cable, where normally the usb device would be pulling power from said host, not providing it.
one suggestion is to just clip the red wire inside your micro usb cable/adapter.
btw the adapters i use do fit snugly side by side, without modification.

I've been following this thread for a little while now, and I wanted to share something I found.
I was looking at the Motorola Travel Webtop adapter. And I was curious to see whether it could be tweaked to suite our needs. I naively thought/hoped that I could flip the connectors in the device to make a small adapter to connect the Atrix to newer Lapdocks. Unfortunately as you can see in the pictures below (sorry not enough posts to link to the pictures) the two connectors are connected via a PCB not wires or a ribbon cable. Although I still have high hopes that I can de-solder the HDMI and USB connectors, and use a small length of flat ribbon cable to connect them and then re-positions the connectors in the case, to build a micro adapter to use the Atrix on the newer Lapdocks. Should this fail this will at least prevent others from making the same mistake, and solve the mystery of what's really inside the Webtop Travel adapter.

Do any one know if this Micro HDMI Cable would work for Lapdock.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Feet-HDMI...s_Adapters&hash=item416612cecb#ht_1149wt_1187
Description says for Asus tf201 MEMO ME171.
I believe all Cables are standard. Can this used to Atrix 4g with Lapdock?
I have otterbox case for Atrix and don't want to Remove cover everytime to plug in Lapdock.

Will any MicroUSB to USB cable work?

Hi, as you might already know that the in box charging cable is pretty short in length, so I need an alternative, a lengthier cable. I was wondering if I buy one of those cheap MicroUSB to USB cable and connect it with the charger would that harm my device? What you guys say?
Thanks in advance.
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Yes - I use my kindle cable with an HTC charger and that works fine

Of own experience and I say no. Mine old usb cable that worked fine with Note 1, didnt worked with Note 2, when I plugged it in mine computer and it didnt recognized the phone. Why do Samsung have to copy everyhting Apple do? They changed the Lightning cable and Samsung changed god damn theirs microusb.

smokingdragon said:
Yes - I use my kindle cable with an HTC charger and that works fine
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That's not a cheap cable by any means!
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I've used el cheapo USB cables off of eBay with all my Android phones and have never had problems. A few cables have been dead on arrival but they're so cheap, I usually buy like 5 at a time anyways.
Of course, if you want to be absolutely super sure that the cable won't do any damage, you should buy official cables. But I see that as insanity, I'm not paying 19,90€ for a cable that I can get for €0,99 minus the Samsung logo. I just will not do that.