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ive been looking for houra now on how to properly get data2sd and appssd working but to no avail. some rom descriptions sound like u convert thru clockwork b4 u flash and some sound like u do it after. im very confused up to this point. also im looking for a sense replica with the added features of a rooted user and no bloatware. im not planning on flashing another rom later either cause sense looks awesum but has speed and memory issues. plz lend a helping hand. i had my sgs up and hacke din afew hours. been always 2 days now and i still dont know wtf im doing
ok first start off with apps2sd, data2sd is still experimental..... all you have to do, is create a secondary partition on your sd card, in either the ext2, ext3 or ext4 file system, then just flash an apps2sd enabled rom from recovery ....... job done
I'm having problems with this on my Desire..
I made the EXT3 partition on my rooted HTC Hero.
Under "Partition sdcard" i set Swap-size = 1024 and Ext2-size = 1024.
When it was done i choosed SD:ext2 to ext3.
And then i put the SD-card on my Desire.
1. First i made a EXT3 partition on my SD-card.
2. Then i flashed this ROM on my phone.
3. Before the first boot i flashed this file.
4. Then rebooted the phone, but it still says only 140MB free space.
Please help - cant really figure out how to do it..
LINKSLOVESANDROID said:
ive been looking for houra now on how to properly get data2sd and appssd working but to no avail. some rom descriptions sound like u convert thru clockwork b4 u flash and some sound like u do it after. im very confused up to this point. also im looking for a sense replica with the added features of a rooted user and no bloatware. im not planning on flashing another rom later either cause sense looks awesum but has speed and memory issues. plz lend a helping hand. i had my sgs up and hacke din afew hours. been always 2 days now and i still dont know wtf im doing
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If you want Data2SD though, you can checkout my Rom thread..Sounds exactly what the doc ordered. It does come with a few third party apps-Astro, Titanium etc which can be immediately removed by flashing an addon zip file.
And for the record..this particular flavor of Data2SD is no more experimental..
dk.zenit said:
I'm having problems with this on my Desire..
I made the EXT3 partition on my rooted HTC Hero.
Under "Partition sdcard" i set Swap-size = 1024 and Ext2-size = 1024.
When it was done i choosed SD:ext2 to ext3.
And then i put the SD-card on my Desire.
1. First i made a EXT3 partition on my SD-card.
2. Then i flashed this ROM on my phone.
3. Before the first boot i flashed this file.
4. Then rebooted the phone, but it still says only 140MB free space.
Please help - cant really figure out how to do it..
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dude apps2sd does not increase your internal storage, it creates a symlink between /data/app/ and the SD-EXT, so when you install an app, rather than the apk going straight into the /data/app/ directory it goes to the the ext partition, taking up less to none internal storage...
Data2sd does increase your internal storage, but unless you have a class 10 sd card, you desire is going to end up slower than your hero lol and the constant R/W cycles mean your sd card will be dead before you know it
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And for the record..this particular flavor of Data2SD is no more experimental..
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ok sorry no need to shout ive been out of the loop abit since i got my shiny new DHD lol
AndroHero said:
Data2sd does increase your internal storage, but unless you have a class 10 sd card, you desire is going to end up slower than your hero lol and the constant R/W cycles mean your sd card will be dead before you know it
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lol.. You're exaggerating!
A class 4 is fine for the latest Data2SD from Sibere..And about sdcard damage, it's been theorized..Noone has ever had it..I've been using Data2SD for 3 months now without a problem
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ok sorry no need to shout ive been out of the loop abit since i got my shiny new DHD lol
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Who's shouting? ..A shout is in CAPS..
I'm think of upgrading my Desire to a data2app ROM soon and was thinking of yours droidzone. Are you planning on creating a DHD ROM?
I'm already running a DHD ROM on a HTC HD2 and it seems very good on there.
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I'm think of upgrading my Desire to a DHD ROM soon and was thinking of yours droidzone.
I'm already running a DHD ROM on a HTC HD2 and it seems very good on there.
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I havent released a DHD rom yet..
Im usin CM7 RC2 and wanna kno if I can use the 512 MBs of Ext4 and/or 256 mb Swap from my SDCard. It was already formatted that way because of my old phone (Moto Cliq 2.1 Android).
Im not sure but it looks like the A2SD feature thats being used is sendin the apps on my Fat32.
Does the default CM7 kernel allow this. Really tho im usin pershoot latest kernel.
What im askin basicly, is it as simple as runnin a script or commands in terminal/adb?
The one you're currently using that's putting apps on the FAT partition is Froyo a2sd. You need Darktremor's a2ext (a2sd). It's in the development thread. Yes, the current format you have will still work but make sure you wipe them first. Also, 256MB is a bit big for this phone, I'd use 64MB and you really won't even need that. You're best bet would be to use compcache with the G2 - I believed cyanogen still retains the fix he put in with the G1 to speed up compcache and actually make it faster than linux swap. Don't quote me on that though.
Hi guys.
Well I managed to get root access to my phone which wasn't really hard. And I managed to s-off and backup my files successfully. Now I'd like to deal with the internal memory issue. The question I want to ask you is this one.
If I create 2 partitions with gparted, one fat32 and second ext4 (around 2 gb's), will the ext4 one be considered as internal memory too ?
Then I'd like to install a custom ROM. So the second question is, can all ROM's the internal memory that way. I mean the custom part from the SD card ?
If something is unclear just ask, cause English is not my primary language.
Thanks in advance.
It should be that every ROM has it's own requirements for doing that.
So not every ROM can use approximately 2 GB for internal memory ?
That's what you're saying ?
Yes, for example I use 3GB on my SuperNova ROM, but recommended is 2GB so now I am trying to repair that. If you get me.
Kapiras? xD
Zealotic said:
Hi guys.
Well I managed to get root access to my phone which wasn't really hard. And I managed to s-off and backup my files successfully. Now I'd like to deal with the internal memory issue. The question I want to ask you is this one.
If I create 2 partitions with gparted, one fat32 and second ext4 (around 2 gb's), will the ext4 one be considered as internal memory too ?
Then I'd like to install a custom ROM. So the second question is, can all ROM's the internal memory that way. I mean the custom part from the SD card ?
If something is unclear just ask, cause English is not my primary language.
Thanks in advance.
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Euh, if you ask me I would say it's part of internal memory (when you remove it the apps on ext4 don't work anymore) but i'm not a dev so not sure though
you can see it as an extension to your internal storage capacity..
next, most of the systems to use your ext4 are already included in roms (A2SD, D2EXT) so you don't have to worry about that, they recognise the partition themselves
the only thing you should be aware of is that you pick the right HBoot (don't flash CM7 HBOOT A2SD on a STOCK HBOOT A2SD)
this is normally explained in most ROM posts but i guess with a 2GB part you should be fine for A LOT of different ROMs
extra: there is a nice pic near the end of THIS post what is shifted to the ext partition when you use a certain method
grtz
So like with an app A2SD when not rooted, you can move apps to SD, but when you remove it, part's of it remain in the memory on the SD card.
The link you gave me is for "AD2SDX Special Edition for Sebastiaan15 RunnyMede Desire ROM", exactly what I want to install.
So first I create partitions with gparted. Fully wipe my sd card.
Flash the rom, then flash that AD2SDX zip file.
And it should work fine ?
Thanks for answering mate.
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So like with an app A2SD when not rooted, you can move apps to SD, but when you remove it, part's of it remain in the memory on the SD card.
The link you gave me is for "AD2SDX Special Edition for Sebastiaan15 RunnyMede Desire ROM", exactly what I want to install.
So first I create partitions with gparted. Fully wipe my sd card.
Flash the rom, then flash that AD2SDX zip file.
And it should work fine ?
Thanks for answering mate.
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well, with the last version of sebastian15 for CM7 there's no need to flash the AD2SDX zip file, now it comes as an option during install (you'll see )
thus, first you make 2 partitions 1 ext4 of min 1024MB (mine is that size but you can do more if you'd like) an the rest of the sdcard is fat32 .. (mine: 7GB)
then download the right rom (check HBOOT, i have CM7R2 so i can install AIO v1), with Hboot its version 5.3 and you still have to flash the AD2SDX zip if you want it (A2SD is good enough for me )
oh right, don't forget a full wipe
grtz
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the only thing you should be aware of is that you pick the right HBoot (don't flash CM7 HBOOT A2SD on a STOCK HBOOT A2SD)
this is normally explained in most ROM posts but i guess with a 2GB part you should be fine for A LOT of different ROMs
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An external partition has nothing to do with hboot.
The only worse thing than people not helping are people helping wrong. This thread is a failure on so many levels that human vocabulary just can't cut it.
Then why don't you help me, or just point me in a right direction ?
Thanks for the answers.
Because information you seeks are essential to know before you attempt to root.
FYI, I have successfully rooted my phone.
And I have managed to install the desired ROM.
And one more question.
I have managed to make 2 partitions.
Fat32 (5,5 gb) and ext4 (2,2 gb), yet the phone recognizes only 5.5 as the SD memory. And the 2,2 are not usable ATM.
What should I do ?
Reading your last comment I can't imagine how could you possibly root it successfully on your own.
GTFO of my thread.
Zealotic, terepin is right in a way. You show no understanding of the ext partition, or flashing, or ROMs. It will never show up. Because it is a separate partition. You'll only ever see the fat32 partition in your phone under sd storage. You need to do some research before you attempt any of this.
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What should I do ?
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Research...
A LOT of research. And don't worry, that "Search" button doesn't bite.
At least not often...
No one said that he's not right. He's just acting like he's a god or something.
I'm just a newbie. And guess what. I managed to get 1.5 gb internal storage too.
Lock the thread please.
So in the end you didn't even need to open the thread?
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Hi All
Noob. Got a Desire (loving it still after over 2+ years of owenrship)
Rooted a few months back. been trialing BCM and Sandvoid ICS.
I've recentyl upgraded to 32Gb Sandisk SD card class 4. Partitioned to 2GB sd-ext and rest for data etc. (actually installer for BCM RC4 is telling me 1.5GB is limit for sd-ext)
Pretty much figured everything to do with rooting and flashing myself from forums, wikis and searching but I'm really stumped on one area.
Its all to do with storage things like :
-Partition sizes /tables & managers e.g. :Oxygen
CM7.2 (thought this was a ROM but seemingly keeps being quoted as partition structure??) ie the issues covered in this thread:
http://androidforums.com/desire-all...e-some-advice-overview-partitions-please.html
what is an optimum/decent starting point for the partition sizes on the desire with mount2sd ICS?
-Swap sizes (some docs say make it 512Mb for desire, some say 0)
conflict here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1460858.html
-app2sd/mount2sd
BCM has latter and it seems to work out of the box after installing ( i get the impression this is more advanced than app2sd - correct?)
Sandvoid has former and seems to need some explicit scripts to be run beyond the aroma installer as the phone ran out of space when adding apps.
-hboot version ( i have not consciously changed this from stock)
-should i format SD with fat32?
I know this post is pretty wide in scope but there doesnt seem to be a "here is a good basic setup" type guide out there for the desire and even if there is i'm doubtful half of it's not irrelevant due to some of the advancements that apply with the latest and greatest ICS versions and other tools.
I suppose my question is from a performance/stability point of view does any of the above matter and if so can anyone point me to guides or make suggestions. As i say i figure that half of it may be irrelevant. The phone is working ok but i'd like to optimise the platform before i spend a lot of time installing and tweaking all of my apps and settings.
Thanks
If u want guides go to Desire Android Development(stickies) if on computer they are the first posts and info about hboots, google Alphrev. And u partition ur sd card to what ever the dev of the rom recommends.
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I agree, pick a rom, or make a shortlist, and read through the first post of each Dev. Hopefully you can find some common features to have, eg. One rom may require a ext4 partition, another may be incompatible with that. You need to choose, then go with it. If it helps I rooted using revolutionary.io and flashed mildwild 4.1.9 . Using 16gb fat32, 4096mb ext4 partition 0mb swap. Used gparted to format SD card.
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Hello all!
1st post and 1st day registered, thought ive been monitoring desire activity in these forums since 2011. Thank you al for the help provided through these years.
THE BACKGROUND
I have been using HTC Desire for about a year with oxygen rom and was more than pleased with the results. after that i had to give away my phone to my wife, for some time, in witch i flashed stock rom (some women cannot appreciate the use of custom/rooted phone!?!? haha) .
Now the phone is back in my hands, and as much as i would like, oxygen is outdated (or better say non existent).
THE QUESTION
Is there a current rom JB+ (up to date) that meets the speed and stability standards set by Oxygen2.3.2 with Data2sd support(or data2everywhere) and preferably without sense UI ? i currently have a class4 4gb microsd partitioned with ~3.5gb Fat32 / 512mb ext4 partition.
Thank you again for your time
PS: i have tried some roms around, but ive found them a bit slower even in touch experience , than GB AOSP roms.
In short, doubt you'll find a JB ROM that matches the speed and stability of Oxygen or GB AOSP ROMs. Oxygen still is one of the most stable ROMs despite being abandoned, mine is still based on it. Just because it isn't updated doesn't necessarily make it bad .
The only way would be to keep trying a few JB ROMs yourself, see if they are good enough for your standards. (I don't think any of them have Sense UI).
Data2sd is a bit different, most ROMs now just use normal A2SD, moving apps and dalvik to the sd-ext, JB ROMs tend to need to be activated by terminal commands (read the OP of the threads / search), so you don't have to flash anything extra.
512MB ext4 partition is a bit small, you might run out of space on it depending on how many apps you want to install. Consider repartitioning it to ~1.5GB if you can afford the space, do this using 4EXT recovery or gparted only.
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In short, doubt you'll find a JB ROM that matches the speed and stability of Oxygen or GB AOSP ROMs. Oxygen still is one of the most stable ROMs despite being abandoned, mine is still based on it. Just because it isn't updated doesn't necessarily make it bad .
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i found a working copy of flashable Oxygen 2.3.2 but im having trouble enabling A2SD support on it. you see, all Oxygen specific guides are on "404 page not found" state, and i have no memory of what i did to install it 2 years ago.
i tried as i said a couple of other roms, and none matched the speed of GB Oxygen
Thank you for your time,
Dimitris
dvalilis said:
i found a working copy of flashable Oxygen 2.3.2 but im having trouble enabling A2SD support on it. you see, all Oxygen specific guides are on "404 page not found" state, and i have no memory of what i did to install it 2 years ago.
i tried as i said a couple of other roms, and none matched the speed of GB Oxygen
Thank you for your time,
Dimitris
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Try the one in my sig, it's no longer being developed, but based on Oxygen 2.3.2. It works best in terms of space if you are s-off with cm7r2 hboot.
You don't have to do anything with this one to activate A2SD, it's already built in. As long as the partition is properly created in gparted or 4EXT recovery, just keep apps on internal (don't 'move to SD') and apps and dalvik will be tricked to sd-ext. You won't see your actual internal memory read 'internal + sd-ext', but the A2SD is working.
UPDATE:after a few hours of testing, and flashing, I managed to find Working copies of oxygen 2.3.2 and compatible version of a2sd.
Today I will upload those files to my server for distribution, along with a «short guide» post in case anyone wants pure oxygen experience on his desire.
Regards
Dimitris
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hi dimitris,
would you mind sharing your files?
i also got my 'old' htc desire back (from kid) and i'd like to install a fresh rom.
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i will post links.as soon as I get back home tonight! Keep tight
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around ssarnie
So here we go,as promised
I have no responsibility for any data loss or phone damage. worked as is on my HTC Desire Bravo
Code:
i cannot post links untill i get 10 posts . so...
h**p://speedy.sh/cnrds/update-oxygen-2.3.2-Bravo-signed.zip
h**p://speedy.sh/XvBVT/a2sd-2.7-update3r1-signed.zip
iIF you have CWRecovery V3+ you have to flash an older version, in order to be able to flash the a2sd above. You downgrade using Android Flasher.
Steps that worked for me:
1 Create 2 partitions on SD, one FAT32 and one ext3 (using Gparted)
2 Put the above zips in Fat32 partition
3 Boot phone to recovery
4 Full wipe/Factory default and cache
5 install Oxygen rom using "install zip from SD card" option
6 Start oxygen rom, and let it boot for first time, also let it settle for few minutes.
7 Reboot to Recovery
8 Install a2sd script using "install zip from SD card " option
9 Reboot phone.
Done
When it boots enter google account and download a Terminal Emulator . To check if all is ok you shoud run
Code:
su
Code:
a2sd diskspace
and you should see the partition recognized as internal with the space used and left.
Job Done. i run this install for 2 days now with no problems at all
Hope i helped,
Dimitris.
Just a few points:
- Did you switch hboot before you flashed the ROM? This would get you even more space. If you're still on stock hboot you're wasting a lot of space on /system partition.
If it's the latest version of Oxygen it should fit onto OxygenR2 hboot with 100MB /system.
- Good you used gparted , ext4 over ext3 would have been slightly faster, not that much of a big deal though.
- Can I ask where you got the A2SD script from and how does it work? Does it move apps and dalvik automatically? Does the internal memory read 'internal + sd-ext', or is it hidden like a lot of A2SD scripts but working as normal?
Just asking, I know you've put a disclaimer at the top, but it's useful just in case for anybody in the future using this. They should be informed exactly what they're flashing and at least in basic terms how and what it does.
- Did you switch hboot before you flashed the ROM? This would get you even more space. If you're still on stock hboot you're wasting a lot of space on /system partition.
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i am using HBOOT -6.93.1002 and radio 5-11-05-27
- Good you used gparted , ext4 over ext3 would have been slightly faster, not that much of a big deal though.
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I am not sure that oxygen supports ext4 and thats why igot the safe path to ext3. Using Gparted was oneway for me , because i only have linux systems on my home/work
- Can I ask where you got the A2SD script from and how does it work? Does it move apps and dalvik automatically? Does the internal memory read 'internal + sd-ext', or is it hidden like a lot of A2SD scripts but working as normal?
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this particular A2SD is probably a previous version of darktremmors. i found it on my backups, and uts the one i used when oxygen forums were live. it does move apps automaticaly i am not sure about davik ,and dunno how to check it ,internal reads only internal memory, but works like a charm.. you can make sure it works, by installing tons of apps and checking "a2sd diskspace"
PS sorry for all that info missing, its my first post about roms, i will probably get better while upping my post count
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i am using HBOOT -6.93.1002 and radio 5-11-05-27
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In other words you're s-off, but still on stock hboot. This is wasteful like I said, your /system size is 250MB, but you're using less that ~95MB, wasting over 150MB
If you switch to OxygenR2 hboot, the system size is 100MB, you'll waste only 5MB, and the rest gets converted to extra internal memory...total 332MB instead of 147MB...i.e. more space for apps
Nandroid backup, download hboot from here, recommend to flash using fastboot, nandroid restore.
I am not sure that oxygen supports ext4 and thats why igot the safe path to ext3. Using Gparted was oneway for me , because i only have linux systems on my home/work
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ext4 is dependent on the A2SD script rather than the ROM. Most will say if they support it. I believe darktremor did support it when I used it on a different phone.
this particular A2SD is probably a previous version of darktremmors. i found it on my backups, and uts the one i used when oxygen forums were live. it does move apps automaticaly i am not sure about davik ,and dunno how to check it ,internal reads only internal memory, but works like a charm.. you can make sure it works, by installing tons of apps and checking "a2sd diskspace"
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You can manage it using this
You can keep dalvik on internal for now, sometimes better for speed if you don't have a high class sd card.
However, on stock hboot, you only have 147MB for app data and dalvik in this case. It may work now, but if you start to install more apps, on stock hboot you can easily still run out of space quite quickly. 332MB /data partition (internal memory) on OxygenR2 hboot allows for much more space for apps.
A better way to check your memory I always recommend is an app called DiskUsage, you'll be able to browse all your partitions. Install it now, you'll see all the free (wasted) space on your /system partition I mentioned earlier.
PS sorry for all that info missing, its my first post about roms, i will probably get better while upping my post count
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That's fine, at least you're trying to help rather than many others who just post unnecessarily just to post in dev threads (unnecessarily). You don't have to up your post count to learn, you get that from reading