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USA Incredible in UK/Europe?

Hi guys,
Seen reviews of the Incredible and absolutely love it.
Can anyone tell me if the North American version of the Incredible will work in the UK? I'm thinking about buying/importing one with my pay cheque next month but am scared that I may receive a phone that can't pick-up any signals here.
I'm pretty sure these are all the bands we use here in the UK.
HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Can anyone clarify?

It is Verizon which makes it CDMA not GSM.

tsanuri said:
It is Verizon which makes it CDMA not GSM.
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Ok, I get that it's going to be CDMA only but is that a software issue or hardware? Basically would I be able to convert it myself to GSM?

Check on GSMarena.com. They say it has GSM frequencies for HTC incredbile.

Joker2206 said:
Check on GSMarena.com. They say it has GSM frequencies for HTC incredbile.
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But Verizon does not use sim cards so there is prob not a card slot on it.

I know it's an exciting phone but to overuse a wonderful line:
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These aren't the Droid's you're looking for.
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Sorry.
You won't be able to use this phone for any carrier other than Verizon. With the right ROM and radio hacks you could get it to run on another CDMA carrier. You would be better off grabbing whichever version of the nexus one is available for your frequencies and hoping that someone ports the Incredible ROM over to the Nexus. This seems like it is likely to happen in short order IMHO.
Recap:
Verizon only CDMA Radio software
No GSM or HSPA support
No Sim card or sim card slot of any kind

[Q] No data on T-Mobile G2

I got this really cheap T-Mobile G2 in the US which worked perfectly alright and brought it to to my own network overseas. I know the handset uses 3G on a totally different band but I believe edge connection should work, right?
Anyway, I unlocked it using the downgrade method. Then I installed CM7. I put my own sim card and it does pick up signal and I am able to make and receive phone calls but there is no EDGE. I already set the APN options correctly.
Any thoughts?

You sure the APN info is correct for your carrier? Ability to make calls, but no data are pretty good indications of wrong APN.
Yes, as long as the phone has the same GSM bands used by your local carrier, and you are unlocked, you should be able to get data via EDGE.

Isn't there a reason the us has G2 and the rest of the world has desire z? Aren't the bands different between the 2?
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Spastic909 said:
Isn't there a reason the us has G2 and the rest of the world has desire z? Aren't the bands different between the 2?
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Just different bands for 3G. Your G2 has the proper GSM (voice and EDGE) to work in most parts of the world.
And the G2 name is just T-Mobile's branding and to signify the vanilla (no Sense) ROM. The Canada, Europe, Asia versions of the Desire Z all have different bands from each other.

redpoint73 said:
You sure the APN info is correct for your carrier? Ability to make calls, but no data are pretty good indications of wrong APN.
Yes, as long as the phone has the same GSM bands used by your local carrier, and you are unlocked, you should be able to get data via EDGE.
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Completely sure. Used the same sim I use in my main phone which is also android based. Could it be a radio issue? I was tempted to flash a new one but since Im not that familiar with this particular phone I don't feel like messing up, especially when all I want is the phone to work so I can sell it.
BTW, anyone interested PM me - although I believe I shouldn't post this here.

[Q] Verizon model - Sim Unlock Possible

I am interested in getting the Verizon model for how cheap it is. Is it possible to sim unlock the Verizon model to use on T-mobile?
I know someone is offering a boot unlocks and regular sim unlocks with GSM models. Not sure if it will work with the CDMA model.
Insights?

He said he can unlock Verizon locked Plays as well.

He just said on the 12th page post of his unlocking forum that the GSM baseband isnt supported.
"Originally Posted by mightytharos
Hello,
I am still wondering if the root process allows the XPERIA PLAY from Verizon (cdma version) to be used as a World phone (by putting a sim card in the slot). I'd appreciate if you guys can tell me if this is possible.
Thank you
I think @netorino is right, baseband doesnt allow gsm networks."
I am just asking and double making sure cause I kept seeing people using the word "unlocked". And I know unlocked has multiple meanings. (boot, sim,ect)
I come from HD2 XDA.

joeminati said:
I am interested in getting the Verizon model for how cheap it is. Is it possible to sim unlock the Verizon model to use on T-mobile?
I know someone is offering a boot unlocks and regular sim unlocks with GSM models. Not sure if it will work with the CDMA model.
Insights?
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Don't quote me...but I think you would be better off getting the AT&T play as its gsm as is T-mob, while Verizon is cdma.
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joeminati said:
I am interested in getting the Verizon model for how cheap it is. Is it possible to sim unlock the Verizon model to use on T-mobile?
I know someone is offering a boot unlocks and regular sim unlocks with GSM models. Not sure if it will work with the CDMA model.
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Quick answer? NO, absolutely not.
Longer answer?
Basically the SIM Slot seems to be physically uncoupled from the chassis. Further, the chipset that would be running the GSM is replaced with one for the CDMA. Whether it can function as both is a question, but the chip is actually different (from my teardown to look, the chip numbering is different from the tech/repair manuals).
I would, in general, assume that no phone that is on Verizon (unless it specifically says "World phone" or "World Edition") can be used on T-Mobile. CDMA vs GSM silliness. Different frequencies, different methods, different technologies.
So while the bootloader unlcok could work for the CDMA model, the SIM-unlock wouldn't.
Interestingly enough, there are still traces of the GSM code in the phone's diagnostic menus though.

i have a friend that has a phone repair shop in my hometown. i called him when i found a play that is cdma thru verizon. it is a world phone and has a sim card slot. he said that as long as its a world phone version it can be unlocked for gsm use in the united states. idk im getting one tonight and im gonna tinker with it and once i get it all going i will let everyone know on here if it can in fact be unlocked for gsm use in the US.

Well???
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i have a friend that has a phone repair shop in my hometown. i called him when i found a play that is cdma thru verizon. it is a world phone and has a sim card slot. he said that as long as its a world phone version it can be unlocked for gsm use in the united states. idk im getting one tonight and im gonna tinker with it and once i get it all going i will let everyone know on here if it can in fact be unlocked for gsm use in the US.
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Well did your tinkering work?

starboi4eva said:
Well did your tinkering work?
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well turns out that the phone ended up not having a sim card slot and the person that i was supposed to purchase it from had no clue about anything. i did not end up buying this device. sorry!!!!

This was stated years ago, the R800x has a sim card slot but it is turned off on a hardware level. It is a non-functioning sim slot.

Unlock Inc for use on Sprint?

I did a search but didn't see any recent information.
I have the Droid Incredible on Verizon, rooted, S-off, custom ROM installed. Is it possible to unlock it and use in on Sprint's network? If so could someone lead me in the right direction? Thanks in advance.

Does sprint use sim cards? If so, than no you cannot.
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tehpwnerer1918 said:
I did a search but didn't see any recent information.
I have the Droid Incredible on Verizon, rooted, S-off, custom ROM installed. Is it possible to unlock it and use in on Sprint's network? If so could someone lead me in the right direction? Thanks in advance.
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What you need to do is to flash a sprint prl and have sprint add the ESN to their database.
Flashing prls is the easy part, having sprint add the esn to their database is the "not going to happen" part.
Other methods involve delving into the underground worlds of cloning, e.t.c, which is a no-no around here.
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Will a HTC Sensation XE work with sprint 3G its GSM and unlocked.

Nikolaev13 said:
Will a HTC Sensation XE work with sprint 3G its GSM and unlocked.
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Sprint is CDMA not GSM so no it will not work.

will Verizon or T-mobile work then?

Nikolaev13 said:
will Verizon or T-mobile work then?
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Only AT&T or T-Mobile are GSM in the US but not sure about their policies on activating phones you did not buy from them. I think you also have to unlock the phone from its current carrier. Not sure if you could buy a sim card for Virgin Mobile or other pay-as-you-go providers and use it or not. Not even sure sim cards are available in the US to just put in a phone like they are overseas?

GSM vs. CDMA
The few phones that I know of in the US that are GSM (Sim Card company's) are AT&T, T-Mobile, Nextel, And Boost. The CDMA ones are Verizon, Sprint, US Cellular Virgin Mobile and tracfone straight talk and a couple other pre-pay guys. I do know that in some parts of the US that you can use a straight talk phone on verizon and vice-versa. Sprint and Nextel phones can be used on boost (Nextel if you can get a sim card from boost. ) Tracphone, Net10 and Straight talk are "leach" phones to the best of my knowledge. They use whatever service is around according to a built in code list. Hope this helps! Google is great for this kind of research.

[Q] Verizon HTC One AT&T Sim

Hi,
I purchased Verizon HTC One from craigslist it was mentioned that it is pre-unlocked phone. I have used T-Mobile sim and it is working however when I tried AT&T sim in it that didn't work. It shows at top that network is AT&T but I am unable to make or receive calls. I was able to use data on AT&T's edge network ( though my sim is LTE). I know that both T-Mobile and AT&T are GSM networks and this phone is CDMA/GSM. Does anybody else using AT&T sim on Verizon HTC One? Do I have to change some kind of settings??
Regards,

HTC ONE Verison Unlocked
asim99 said:
Hi,
I purchased Verizon HTC One from craigslist it was mentioned that it is pre-unlocked phone. I have used T-Mobile sim and it is working however when I tried AT&T sim in it that didn't work. It shows at top that network is AT&T but I am unable to make or receive calls. I was able to use data on AT&T's edge network ( though my sim is LTE). I know that both T-Mobile and AT&T are GSM networks and this phone is CDMA/GSM. Does anybody else using AT&T sim on Verizon HTC One? Do I have to change some kind of settings??
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Hello,
I have the same Verizon phone and I'm using T-mobile network, but I can't get data started. What APN settings did you use? If
you could please help I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanx,
SiouxV

You will only get edge because Verizon blocked some of the bands that you would need for hspa speeds.
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asim99 said:
Hi,
I purchased Verizon HTC One from craigslist it was mentioned that it is pre-unlocked phone. I have used T-Mobile sim and it is working however when I tried AT&T sim in it that didn't work. It shows at top that network is AT&T but I am unable to make or receive calls. I was able to use data on AT&T's edge network ( though my sim is LTE). I know that both T-Mobile and AT&T are GSM networks and this phone is CDMA/GSM. Does anybody else using AT&T sim on Verizon HTC One? Do I have to change some kind of settings??
Regards,
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You will have to change settings to gsm/umts as att uses. Settings>mobile data> preferred network. Also Google att 3g apn settings and edit son. You won't get lte but I don't see why you shouldn't get 3g.

spokanite said:
You will have to change settings to gsm/umts as att uses. Settings>mobile data> preferred network. Also Google att 3g apn settings and edit son. You won't get lte but I don't see why you shouldn't get 3g.
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Weird because I have a straight talk att and tmobile SIM card with correct apn's set and I only get edge. I know tmobile reformed my area to the 1900 band too. If I pop those SIM cards in my droid DNA I can pick up HSPA speeds with the same apn settings.
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selayan said:
Weird because I have a straight talk att and tmobile SIM card with correct apn's set and I only get edge. I know tmobile reformed my area to the 1900 band too. If I pop those SIM cards in my droid DNA I can pick up HSPA speeds with the same apn settings.
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That is weird. I would assume if gsm/umts is an option that HTC would have also included the correct bands but nothing surprises me these days.

spokanite said:
That is weird. I would assume if gsm/umts is an option that HTC would have also included the correct bands but nothing surprises me these days.
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I think it has only the 1900 and 800 band. Not the 850, which you also need for 3g. Or Verizon blocked those bands despite the phone being factory unlocked.
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There's an app called "LTE On/Off", not sure if can download from play store, but included with certain Roms. It allows you to pick different bands. You can select HSPCA/GSM etc. Maybe this will help with other networks??

I'm not sure. On android central I have a thread there about the Verizon one. A person there says he tried it on straight talk with an att SIM and got hspa speeds. I tried both an att and tmobile SIM card in my Verizon one and only got edge with both apn settings. And tmobile rolled out the new bands where I live too. At the time my one was not rooted so I didn't have that app.
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could you flash a new radio? Seems like that might help.. and if the hardware is the same and you get the bootloader unlocked, root the device, and achieve s-off could you re-flash firmware, radios, hboot and rom could it potentially operate as a modified at&t (or other gsm) htc one? sorry if this is completely wrong I'm not a firmware guy.. I know basics of rom's and installations that's about it just throwing an idea out there...

Not sure, but you could unlock your cid setting it to all 1's and flash a gsm edition Rom or ruu, flash radios too. Not sure weather it would work or not depending on the Verizon model hardware but all that stuff you can do.
Turns out the guy on android central was wrong, he was also getting edge data but didn't know it.
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Are any of you who are trying to use the phone on AT&T running a custom rom, e.g. Cyanogenmod or Santod's Global Edition?

My one max works on at&t fine once you add the apn settings for at&t.

The Verizon one does not have the same frequiences unlocked that require you to have 3g. The DNA has pretty much similar radio frequiences and gets hspa but the HTC one has those bands locked so you only get edge, even with apn settings.
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selayan said:
The Verizon one does not have the same frequiences unlocked that require you to have 3g. The DNA has pretty much similar radio frequiences and gets hspa but the HTC one has those bands locked so you only get edge, even with apn settings.
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DAMN I hate Verizon!!! Except for their unlimited plan that I used about 60gb's on so far this month... ha ha ha ha

shojus said:
DAMN I hate Verizon!!! Except for their unlimited plan that I used about 60gb's on so far this month... ha ha ha ha
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Great. It's usage like this that was a big contributor toward the unlimited data plans going away. Thanks. This is why we can't have nice things.
Back on topic, I'm curious as well if flashing new radios would do the trick.

They would have to be fully compatible and I'm not sure they would be. Maybe possible but I have not tried. Mainly one reason why they stopped selling the DNA.
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So the consensus here is that you cant do any better than Edge service when using AT&T SIM in a VZW HTC One?
See, I just swapped my Note 3 AT&T for this phone, and Id like to be able to use data. I use AT&T prepaid but my Note was always able to pickup HSPA and LTE

Have any of you ever tried doing a factory reset from hboot? That will clear out all of the network settings from verizon, and force the phone to be reprogramed from the sim.

dhaliwal925 said:
Are any of you who are trying to use the phone on AT&T running a custom rom, e.g. Cyanogenmod or Santod's Global Edition?
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I have, with TikTak Google Plus Edition 2.0, I'm still only getting EDGE data (same as with stock) I have tried using a gsm rom, radio, and RUU. The phone wouldn't start with the different radio flash, the RUU would just boot cycle, and the rom would always fail (status 7, 6, 4).
I have spend about 20 hours on this flashing separate roms, radios and pretty much anything i can find