I got this really cheap T-Mobile G2 in the US which worked perfectly alright and brought it to to my own network overseas. I know the handset uses 3G on a totally different band but I believe edge connection should work, right?
Anyway, I unlocked it using the downgrade method. Then I installed CM7. I put my own sim card and it does pick up signal and I am able to make and receive phone calls but there is no EDGE. I already set the APN options correctly.
Any thoughts?
You sure the APN info is correct for your carrier? Ability to make calls, but no data are pretty good indications of wrong APN.
Yes, as long as the phone has the same GSM bands used by your local carrier, and you are unlocked, you should be able to get data via EDGE.
Isn't there a reason the us has G2 and the rest of the world has desire z? Aren't the bands different between the 2?
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Spastic909 said:
Isn't there a reason the us has G2 and the rest of the world has desire z? Aren't the bands different between the 2?
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Just different bands for 3G. Your G2 has the proper GSM (voice and EDGE) to work in most parts of the world.
And the G2 name is just T-Mobile's branding and to signify the vanilla (no Sense) ROM. The Canada, Europe, Asia versions of the Desire Z all have different bands from each other.
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You sure the APN info is correct for your carrier? Ability to make calls, but no data are pretty good indications of wrong APN.
Yes, as long as the phone has the same GSM bands used by your local carrier, and you are unlocked, you should be able to get data via EDGE.
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Completely sure. Used the same sim I use in my main phone which is also android based. Could it be a radio issue? I was tempted to flash a new one but since Im not that familiar with this particular phone I don't feel like messing up, especially when all I want is the phone to work so I can sell it.
BTW, anyone interested PM me - although I believe I shouldn't post this here.
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If I import a T-Mobile G2 from the US that is SIM unlocked, does it have the correct radio bands to work with 3G on UK networks, specifically T-Mobile UK? Providing I enter the correct APN settings, of course.
In case anyone else was wondering about this, I just sent an email to a friend who works at HTC asking him about this, and he confirmed that even though the radio bands differ slightly between the G2 and the Desire Z, an American SIM-unlocked G2 would indeed work on UK 3G networks with the right APN settings.
Mods, you can go ahead and close this thread if you need to since I have my answer.
If i unlock my G2 using gfree or anyother method will i still have my 3G when i switch it to AT&T from T-Mobile? does anyone know of any problems with signal and what not when it gets unlocked? thanks.
Army_Spec_Ops said:
If i unlock my G2 using gfree or anyother method will i still have my 3G when i switch it to AT&T from T-Mobile? does anyone know of any problems with signal and what not when it gets unlocked? thanks.
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You will only be to access 2G/edge data speeds, no 3G connectivity since AT&T uses different 3G bands.. assuming you are currently using a T-Mobile G2 with the carrier T-Mobile... :?
You won't have any signal issues unless AT&T has horrible coverage where you live.
you will not change anything hardware related... you just unlock/root your phone which allows you to modify hardware and software related things. But if you don't touch the antenna software then nothing will change
@CaliBoyPhillip; when I was in the states my phone switched from AT&T and T-Mobile all the time (roaming) and still had 3g reception, the phone supports most frequencies.
no im currently using a Aria with AT&T but im getting the G2 or the G2X tomorrow. and ok so i wont lose my 3G?
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no im currently using a Aria with AT&T but im getting the G2 or the G2X tomorrow. and ok so i wont lose my 3G?
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G2x will work with At&ts 3g/4g. As for G2 I was told it doesn't support the 3g/4g from at&t. Remember the buy out isn't final yet.
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you will not change anything hardware related... you just unlock/root your phone which allows you to modify hardware and software related things. But if you don't touch the antenna software then nothing will change
@CaliBoyPhillip; when I was in the states my phone switched from AT&T and T-Mobile all the time (roaming) and still had 3g reception, the phone supports most frequencies.
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hmmm Interesting... it was prob due to the reason that you were roaming but if he uses an AT&T SIM on his SIM unlocked G2 from T-Mobile, he won't have 3G access I think... The G2 runs on 850/900/1800/1900 for edge and 1700/2100 radio for 3G data, meanwhile AT&T operates on 850/1900 for EDGE and 850/1900 for 3G.... not compatible !
EDIT: source for the bands ATT uses for 3G gotten from here.. http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=14003
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hmmm Interesting... it was prob due to the reason that you were roaming but if he uses an AT&T SIM on his SIM unlocked G2 from T-Mobile, he won't have 3G access I think... The G2 runs on 850/900/1800/1900 for edge and 1700/2100 radio for 3G data, meanwhile AT&T operates on 850/1900 for EDGE and 850/1900 for 3G.... not compatible !
EDIT: source for the bands ATT uses for 3G gotten from here.. http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=14003
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THis is correct. The G2 WILL NOT work with ATT 3G. If you want 3G you need to purchase the NAM (North American Model) of the Desire Z. It is sold in Canada on the Bell Network. You can find it online unlocked and unbranded and it WILL work on ATT no problem. It is going to cost you though, 450-550 depending where you get it.
Same reason iphone won't connect to tmobile 3g...amazing people still don't understand this
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ok so stupid question but im gonna ask it anyways lol is there anything that i can do to make it work with 3G if i dont want to buy the desire z?
Not unless you know how and which chipset to replace on the board. Ie not possible.
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Army_Spec_Ops said:
ok so stupid question but im gonna ask it anyways lol is there anything that i can do to make it work with 3G if i dont want to buy the desire z?
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Nope, the phone's hardware is what decides what bands it can use.
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Get a desire Z from rodgers Canada the 3g bands are the same
To bad radio isn't software
It's to bad that phones don't have the radio frequencies programmable in software (much like an fm radio). Is that even possible?
Hi,
I purchased Verizon HTC One from craigslist it was mentioned that it is pre-unlocked phone. I have used T-Mobile sim and it is working however when I tried AT&T sim in it that didn't work. It shows at top that network is AT&T but I am unable to make or receive calls. I was able to use data on AT&T's edge network ( though my sim is LTE). I know that both T-Mobile and AT&T are GSM networks and this phone is CDMA/GSM. Does anybody else using AT&T sim on Verizon HTC One? Do I have to change some kind of settings??
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HTC ONE Verison Unlocked
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Hi,
I purchased Verizon HTC One from craigslist it was mentioned that it is pre-unlocked phone. I have used T-Mobile sim and it is working however when I tried AT&T sim in it that didn't work. It shows at top that network is AT&T but I am unable to make or receive calls. I was able to use data on AT&T's edge network ( though my sim is LTE). I know that both T-Mobile and AT&T are GSM networks and this phone is CDMA/GSM. Does anybody else using AT&T sim on Verizon HTC One? Do I have to change some kind of settings??
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Hello,
I have the same Verizon phone and I'm using T-mobile network, but I can't get data started. What APN settings did you use? If
you could please help I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanx,
SiouxV
You will only get edge because Verizon blocked some of the bands that you would need for hspa speeds.
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Hi,
I purchased Verizon HTC One from craigslist it was mentioned that it is pre-unlocked phone. I have used T-Mobile sim and it is working however when I tried AT&T sim in it that didn't work. It shows at top that network is AT&T but I am unable to make or receive calls. I was able to use data on AT&T's edge network ( though my sim is LTE). I know that both T-Mobile and AT&T are GSM networks and this phone is CDMA/GSM. Does anybody else using AT&T sim on Verizon HTC One? Do I have to change some kind of settings??
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You will have to change settings to gsm/umts as att uses. Settings>mobile data> preferred network. Also Google att 3g apn settings and edit son. You won't get lte but I don't see why you shouldn't get 3g.
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You will have to change settings to gsm/umts as att uses. Settings>mobile data> preferred network. Also Google att 3g apn settings and edit son. You won't get lte but I don't see why you shouldn't get 3g.
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Weird because I have a straight talk att and tmobile SIM card with correct apn's set and I only get edge. I know tmobile reformed my area to the 1900 band too. If I pop those SIM cards in my droid DNA I can pick up HSPA speeds with the same apn settings.
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selayan said:
Weird because I have a straight talk att and tmobile SIM card with correct apn's set and I only get edge. I know tmobile reformed my area to the 1900 band too. If I pop those SIM cards in my droid DNA I can pick up HSPA speeds with the same apn settings.
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That is weird. I would assume if gsm/umts is an option that HTC would have also included the correct bands but nothing surprises me these days.
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That is weird. I would assume if gsm/umts is an option that HTC would have also included the correct bands but nothing surprises me these days.
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I think it has only the 1900 and 800 band. Not the 850, which you also need for 3g. Or Verizon blocked those bands despite the phone being factory unlocked.
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There's an app called "LTE On/Off", not sure if can download from play store, but included with certain Roms. It allows you to pick different bands. You can select HSPCA/GSM etc. Maybe this will help with other networks??
I'm not sure. On android central I have a thread there about the Verizon one. A person there says he tried it on straight talk with an att SIM and got hspa speeds. I tried both an att and tmobile SIM card in my Verizon one and only got edge with both apn settings. And tmobile rolled out the new bands where I live too. At the time my one was not rooted so I didn't have that app.
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could you flash a new radio? Seems like that might help.. and if the hardware is the same and you get the bootloader unlocked, root the device, and achieve s-off could you re-flash firmware, radios, hboot and rom could it potentially operate as a modified at&t (or other gsm) htc one? sorry if this is completely wrong I'm not a firmware guy.. I know basics of rom's and installations that's about it just throwing an idea out there...
Not sure, but you could unlock your cid setting it to all 1's and flash a gsm edition Rom or ruu, flash radios too. Not sure weather it would work or not depending on the Verizon model hardware but all that stuff you can do.
Turns out the guy on android central was wrong, he was also getting edge data but didn't know it.
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Are any of you who are trying to use the phone on AT&T running a custom rom, e.g. Cyanogenmod or Santod's Global Edition?
My one max works on at&t fine once you add the apn settings for at&t.
The Verizon one does not have the same frequiences unlocked that require you to have 3g. The DNA has pretty much similar radio frequiences and gets hspa but the HTC one has those bands locked so you only get edge, even with apn settings.
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The Verizon one does not have the same frequiences unlocked that require you to have 3g. The DNA has pretty much similar radio frequiences and gets hspa but the HTC one has those bands locked so you only get edge, even with apn settings.
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DAMN I hate Verizon!!! Except for their unlimited plan that I used about 60gb's on so far this month... ha ha ha ha
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DAMN I hate Verizon!!! Except for their unlimited plan that I used about 60gb's on so far this month... ha ha ha ha
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Great. It's usage like this that was a big contributor toward the unlimited data plans going away. Thanks. This is why we can't have nice things.
Back on topic, I'm curious as well if flashing new radios would do the trick.
They would have to be fully compatible and I'm not sure they would be. Maybe possible but I have not tried. Mainly one reason why they stopped selling the DNA.
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So the consensus here is that you cant do any better than Edge service when using AT&T SIM in a VZW HTC One?
See, I just swapped my Note 3 AT&T for this phone, and Id like to be able to use data. I use AT&T prepaid but my Note was always able to pickup HSPA and LTE
Have any of you ever tried doing a factory reset from hboot? That will clear out all of the network settings from verizon, and force the phone to be reprogramed from the sim.
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Are any of you who are trying to use the phone on AT&T running a custom rom, e.g. Cyanogenmod or Santod's Global Edition?
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I have, with TikTak Google Plus Edition 2.0, I'm still only getting EDGE data (same as with stock) I have tried using a gsm rom, radio, and RUU. The phone wouldn't start with the different radio flash, the RUU would just boot cycle, and the rom would always fail (status 7, 6, 4).
I have spend about 20 hours on this flashing separate roms, radios and pretty much anything i can find
I have an AT&T M8 which I unlocked, rooted and s-off'd while under AT&T contract. I then decided to switch to T-Mobile and give this device to my 11-year old son. What I'd like to know/understand is whether I can flash some of the T-Mobile Roms I see in this forum on the AT&T M8 and it work with T-Mobile network? Or do I still need to flash the AT&T Roms?
Thanks in advance for any help advice!
Johnny
SIM unlocked would allow you to use it on stock AT&T too if you choose to. Also everything seems to be interchangeable unless noted. I would go for Rom with T-Mobile's Wi-Fi calling, which is amazing btw for those who get sorry service.
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I have an AT&T M8 which I unlocked, rooted and s-off'd while under AT&T contract. I then decided to switch to T-Mobile and give this device to my 11-year old son. What I'd like to know/understand is whether I can flash some of the T-Mobile Roms I see in this forum on the AT&T M8 and it work with T-Mobile network? Or do I still need to flash the AT&T Roms?
Thanks in advance for any help advice!
Johnny
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You should be able to flash either T-mobile or AT&T (Even roms in the international section, I would recommend InsertCoin) roms without any issues. Eleven and has a M8? Damn, i'm jealous lol.
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You should be able to flash either T-mobile or AT&T (Even roms in the international section, I would recommend InsertCoin) roms without any issues. Eleven and has a M8? Damn, i'm jealous lol.
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Thanks for the information to the both ^^^^^^^^ of you! I appreciate it. Yes , he is 11 years old, but a good respectful kid and does well in school. With that I'm okay with giving him nice things. If that should change, then Daddy gets the M8 back!!! LOL
Somewhat related question... If I u were to use an AT&T model on T-Mobile, would everything work correctly, 3g/4g? Comparing the frequency bands online, the AT&T model is missing the 1700 band that the T-Mobile version has. Does that mean the phone doesn't have the hardware components to connect to it? Or is it capable of connecting, just that AT&T doesn't use that band? I'm asking because I want to pickup a used m8, but the T-Mobile version is going for around $100 more than all the other carrier's versions... Could I just SIM unlock an AT&T version and be set, or will some things not work?
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Somewhat related question... If I u were to use an AT&T model on T-Mobile, would everything work correctly, 3g/4g? Comparing the frequency bands online, the AT&T model is missing the 1700 band that the T-Mobile version has. Does that mean the phone doesn't have the hardware components to connect to it? Or is it capable of connecting, just that AT&T doesn't use that band? I'm asking because I want to pickup a used m8, but the T-Mobile version is going for around $100 more than all the other carrier's versions... Could I just SIM unlock an AT&T version and be set, or will some things not work?
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That's a good question and hoping someone will have the answer. In the meantime I was able to SIM unlock my son's ATT M8 and install a TMobile SIM using stock ATT rom. So far everything has worked and the 4G symbol does appear in the task bar, although I'm not sure if that really means he's getting 4G. I did have to manually enter the APN settings so he could get mobile data when not connected to wifi.
Tmobile apn settings
Would you mind posting the apn settings that allowed your sons phone to work on 4g and send mms? Its the main reason I'm looking into flashing a Rom and would save me a lot of trouble as I have spent quite a bit of time searching for one that works on my phone and none seem to do the trick.
I'm considering switching from ATT, but my understanding is that wifi calling is only available with TMO branded phones. Mine is the factory unlocked model (BS_US001/0P6B12000). I'm SuperCID, so was wondering if I could emulate a TMO phone by flashing their RUU. Would I have to change my MID (if that is even possible)?
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I'm considering switching from ATT, but my understanding is that wifi calling is only available with TMO branded phones. Mine is the factory unlocked model (BS_US001/0P6B12000). I'm SuperCID, so was wondering if I could emulate a TMO phone by flashing their RUU. Would I have to change my MID (if that is even possible)?
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yes change the mid then u can flash there ruu
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yes change the mid then u can flash there ruu
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Did u try this yet ?
I have a vas m8 running on tmo and in the viperone threads in the general HTC one m8 section, j to the an, said if I tried something like that it would go for a hard brick easy. But my be cuz my phone is a cdma variant? Who knows. I just ask.
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There are a few custom ROMs that allow TMO WiFi calling. I know, and have tested, both Viper and Sky Dragon. While they are obviously not stock, they both work on my BS_US002.
Just flash T-MO RUU after SuperCid'ing. I have the same terminal and got around that issue following those steps!. Remember to do your backups.
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Just flash T-MO RUU after SuperCid'ing. I have the same terminal and got around that issue following those steps!. Remember to do your backups.
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I was assuming you has a gsm varient when I said change the mid then flash their ruu. At&t and t-mobile are gsm, Verizon and Sprint varients are cdma . Never mix gsm and cdma anything,if your varient is cdma don't bother looking at gsm formums at all
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I was assuming you has a gsm varient when I said change the mid then flash their ruu. At&t and t-mobile are gsm, Verizon and Sprint varients are cdma . Never mix gsm and cdma anything,if your varient is cdma don't bother looking at gsm formums at all
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op is AT&T (GSM) wants to emulate TMO (GSM) as well. what are you talking about?
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op is AT&T (GSM) wants to emulate TMO (GSM) as well. what are you talking about?
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Taking about me. Cuz I'm vzw and AT&T is gsm. I forgot bout that, duh... But I am able to run gsm type Rom with little to no problem....I'm just looking to see how I can enable all gsm lte bands for use. I try to drive and between towers I lose signal and can't reconnect, so I either have to toggle airplane to get it back, or just use hspa. It runs ok... But I'd like to get full potential.
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Taking about me. Cuz I'm vzw and AT&T is gsm. I forgot bout that, duh... But I am able to run gsm type Rom with little to no problem....I'm just looking to see how I can enable all gsm lte bands for use. I try to drive and between towers I lose signal and can't reconnect, so I either have to toggle airplane to get it back, or just use hspa. It runs ok... But I'd like to get full potential.
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Sounds like some sort of Kernel incompatibility, have you tried reinstalling everything from scratch?
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Taking about me. Cuz I'm vzw and AT&T is gsm. I forgot bout that, duh... But I am able to run gsm type Rom with little to no problem....I'm just looking to see how I can enable all gsm lte bands for use. I try to drive and between towers I lose signal and can't reconnect, so I either have to toggle airplane to get it back, or just use hspa. It runs ok... But I'd like to get full potential.
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A Cdma varient never can be full potential of the gsm varient. i use to have the sprint varient and i unlocked it to tmobile, yes it worked, but it wouldnt stay connected to tmobile, i would constantly have to manually search for tmobile network, so if i never looked at my phone it would just disconnect by itself, i received calls fine but text messages would come once i connected to tmobile again.
plus the hardware is just not capable of all the gsm bands, so to get full potential, sell it and get a gsm one