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should i switch from gsm to verizon nexus

i can an unlimited min, tex, and data for $70/month through my business. i currently have the gsm nexus with tmobile. was thinking of switching to verizon for the lte speeds. the only thing that i'm worried about it that it doesn't run a completely stock android (verizon crapware) and it won't get updates as quick. also worried about battery life. lte is a battery killer. are there any cons to switching?

wasya152 said:
i can an unlimited min, tex, and data for $70/month through my business. i currently have the gsm nexus with tmobile. was thinking of switching to verizon for the lte speeds. the only thing that i'm worried about it that it doesn't run a completely stock android (verizon crapware) and it won't get updates as quick. also worried about battery life. lte is a battery killer. are there any cons to switching?
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Well updates *do* come directly from Google and the verizon bloatware is a nonissue (just Hide it and you'll never have to worry about it again). If you're worried about battery life just turn off LTE and enjoy great battery life.
Pros? Verizon has *much* better coverage than T-Mobile and LTE is much faster.

but because of the "only 2" verizon apps, are the updates going to come directly from google or do we have to wait for verizon to release it with there "only 2" bloatware apps

The android updates come straight from el goog, the apps should update via the market and not from the rom.
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Sure LTE eats more but that is the price to pay for speed

buy the lte nexus and the extended battery. sell the gsm version and be on your way. =)

4Pr3mier said:
buy the lte nexus and the extended battery. sell the gsm version and be on your way. =)
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That's exactly what I did

Gsm forever ... Need for international travel
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kirdroid said:
Gsm forever ... Need for international travel
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agreed
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No....simple as that
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Keep the GSM unlocked GNex and don't buy the Verizon CDMA version that won't allow you to use a sim card from anywhere else. I also have a Skyrocket and it has LTE on AT&T and I really don't notice the difference in speeds from HSDPA+ on the GNex and LTE on the Skyrocket.
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hotleadsingerguy said:
Well updates *do* come directly from Google and the verizon bloatware is a nonissue (just Hide it and you'll never have to worry about it again). If you're worried about battery life just turn off LTE and enjoy great battery life.
Pros? Verizon has *much* better coverage than T-Mobile and LTE is much faster.
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If you turn off LTE, 1st you loose signal for a minute or so, 2nd you loose data + cell phone use together, and 3rd you are now stuck on slow CDMA that tops at 500kbps-1.5mbps near Boston area where Tmobile 3G is 2.5-5.5mbps and Tmobile 4G even faster
Now that a buddy whats to buy my Nexus One and HD2 for $500 bucks shipped, I am still thinking about switching to Verizon and get Nexus for $150 or pay $550 for GSM version.

kolyan said:
If you turn off LTE, 1st you loose signal for a minute or so, 2nd you loose data + cell phone use together, and 3rd you are now stuck on slow CDMA that tops at 500kbps-1.5mbps near Boston area where Tmobile 3G is 2.5-5.5mbps and Tmobile 4G even faster
Now that a buddy whats to buy my Nexus One and HD2 for $500 bucks shipped, I am still thinking about switching to Verizon and get Nexus for $150 or pay $550 for GSM version.
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N1 + HD2 for $500?? Heh that's awesome! I have one of each sitting around gathering dust, does he want to buy mine too?

my past experience told me, CDMA is not as good as GSM, why? if your phone decided to sync your email or FB, you won't recieve your phone calls whatsoever.

kolyan said:
If you turn off LTE, 1st you loose signal for a minute or so, 2nd you loose data + cell phone use together, and 3rd you are now stuck on slow CDMA that tops at 500kbps-1.5mbps near Boston area where Tmobile 3G is 2.5-5.5mbps and Tmobile 4G even faster
Now that a buddy whats to buy my Nexus One and HD2 for $500 bucks shipped, I am still thinking about switching to Verizon and get Nexus for $150 or pay $550 for GSM version.
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You can use voice and data at the same time on 3G due to eHRPD.. or that's how it was on the thunderbolt at least.
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Lancez said:
my past experience told me, CDMA is not as good as GSM, why? if your phone decided to sync your email or FB, you won't recieve your phone calls whatsoever.
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What? This has never been the case. CDMA phones always have 1x to fall back onto. You just can't use EVDO (3G) while on the phone because the phone defaults to 1x while you are on a call.
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the7thson said:
N1 + HD2 for $500?? Heh that's awesome! I have one of each sitting around gathering dust, does he want to buy mine too?
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lol.....i already forgot all about Galaxy Nexus...and today my buddy tells me this. its gonna me 450 + 50 to ship.
Lancez said:
my past experience told me, CDMA is not as good as GSM, why? if your phone decided to sync your email or FB, you won't recieve your phone calls whatsoever.
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I thought voice has priority over data on CDMA, no ? maybe thats why 2 of my friends told me that many of verizon calls go straight to voice mail ....

I switched from T-Mobile to Verizon and never looked back. Verizon's coverage blows away T-Mo's, and LTE is real 4G with real 4G speeds. And why worry about updates? This is a Nexus with all of the development that brings with it. I don't know why you'd ever be on a stock ROM.
Lancez said:
my past experience told me, CDMA is not as good as GSM, why? if your phone decided to sync your email or FB, you won't recieve your phone calls whatsoever.
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Simultaneous voice and data on LTE, plus voice takes priority anyways.

tk123456789 said:
I really don't notice the difference in speeds from HSDPA+ on the GNex and LTE on the Skyrocket.
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I can't speak on ATT LTE but Verizon LTE is amazingly fast. I see speeds of 42 down max and 20 down during peak hours.
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kolyan said:
If you turn off LTE, 1st you loose signal for a minute or so, 2nd you loose data + cell phone use together, and 3rd you are now stuck on slow CDMA that tops at 500kbps-1.5mbps near Boston area where Tmobile 3G is 2.5-5.5mbps and Tmobile 4G even faster
Now that a buddy whats to buy my Nexus One and HD2 for $500 bucks shipped, I am still thinking about switching to Verizon and get Nexus for $150 or pay $550 for GSM version.
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Where are you finding the Galaxy Nexus at for $550.00 every where I look it is way over $600.00 or more, I would like to find a reliable seller that has it for $550.00!!!

Pathetic 3g speeds

No wonder Sprint is so cheap
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Agreed. These are my 3G speeds:
This is Sprint's so called "3G". There's really no point of unlimited data when Sprint's 3G is basically already throttled the whole time.
Even though I think their "3G" is so bad, I still don't switch to another carrier since Sprint has Unlimited data. I still don't switch despite the fact that those carriers (ATT, Verizon, T-Mo) have prepaid plans that are half the price Sprint. Oh, and did I mention those plans have data limits that are higher than the actual carrier plans?
But nah, I'm not gonna switch to prepaid even though it would be so logical.
(This post isn't serious. Instead, it's basically how I interpret people's posts complaining about Sprint's 3G. If you don't like it, switch carriers...)

Oh I totally agree I have no plans on switching I've been with Sprint for 3 years and am just hoping they improve their network to something more acceptable
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if i wasn't on a family plan with people in an area where it works better, i would have left. I get the same speeds as the OP. The thing is, in the exact same area 2 years ago, the speeds were great.

My speeds all 3g except a few wifi
The ones with abismal speeds were then ones with no bars
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r u fukn kidding me?!
yousefak said:
Agreed. These are my 3G speeds:
This is Sprint's so called "3G". There's really no point of unlimited data when Sprint's 3G is basically already throttled the whole time.
Even though I think their "3G" is so bad, I still don't switch to another carrier since Sprint has Unlimited data. I still don't switch despite the fact that those carriers (ATT, Verizon, T-Mo) have prepaid plans that are half the price Sprint. Oh, and did I mention those plans have data limits that are higher than the actual carrier plans?
But nah, I'm not gonna switch to prepaid even though it would be so logical.
(This post isn't serious. Instead, it's basically how I interpret people's posts complaining about Sprint's 3G. If you don't like it, switch carriers...)
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1x!? i would give my left nut to get that on 3g. i'm lucky
to get half that speed. and when i do its a very rare occasion. sprint better blow the roof off with this lte ****. this beautiful phone is going to waste being crippled like this

Their 3G speeds are okay for me like I like it because when I'm out side of the house it takes about 3 secs for a page to load which is impressive to me and at least you got some data connection I rarely use 3G to surf the web but try updating ur PRL to get your 3G speed and more to the latest and fastest version
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Yeah 3g is getting better.
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yousefak said:
Agreed. These are my 3G speeds:
This is Sprint's so called "3G". There's really no point of unlimited data when Sprint's 3G is basically already throttled the whole time.
Even though I think their "3G" is so bad, I still don't switch to another carrier since Sprint has Unlimited data. I still don't switch despite the fact that those carriers (ATT, Verizon, T-Mo) have prepaid plans that are half the price Sprint. Oh, and did I mention those plans have data limits that are higher than the actual carrier plans?
But nah, I'm not gonna switch to prepaid even though it would be so logical.
(This post isn't serious. Instead, it's basically how I interpret people's posts complaining about Sprint's 3G. If you don't like it, switch carriers...)
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Is that roaming on Verizon's network?
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hockey4life0099 said:
if i wasn't on a family plan with people in an area where it works better, i would have left. I get the same speeds as the OP. The thing is, in the exact same area 2 years ago, the speeds were great.
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Yeah same here just a few years ago the speeds were pretty good but we'll see what the future holds I think their network will pick up with all the upgrades they have planned
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Here's my 3G Speed early one Sunday morning in nyc.
Realize it gets as slow as 10% of that download speed during peak times. Quiet morning.
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Compared to my last phone the epic 4g touch the 3g speeds on my s3 is pretty damn good almost as good as the 4g speed on the on the epic 4g touch. So I can only imagine what to look forward to when lte is up in Jersey
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.

Is the horse dead yet??

Success100 said:
Is the horse dead yet??
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It's been beaten long enough
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.

gtuansdiamm said:
Is that roaming on Verizon's network?
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100% Sprint. It's what I usually get around my home area. 1000-150kbps throughout the day, 1500-1900kbps at night.
The thing is, I live in a suburban area so the towers aren't used as much. I'm willing to bet that throughout the day there are only like 4 or 5 other people connected to data that actually use their data.

Here's my 3g speed, guess I'm lucky.
I've noticed a few times when I have crappy data speeds. My phone was showing 3g in the status bar, but if I went to SettIngs-->About Device--> Status the phone was actually connected at 1x not 3g. Not sure why it doesn't show 1x in the notification bar.
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I'm with T-Mobile on the one s, my buddy had the sprint Sammy s3 next to mine, though the speed test said mine was smoking fast the Sammy was faster for the user experience, for simple browsing . I'm gonna switch to sprint and get the sgs3
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Vincent Vegas said:
Here's my 3G Speed early one Sunday morning in nyc.
Realize it gets as slow as 10% of that download speed during peak times. Quiet morning.
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I'm in S.I., and I never see those speeds even on a Sunday morning.

mardukeme said:
Here's my 3g speed, guess I'm lucky.
I've noticed a few times when I have crappy data speeds. My phone was showing 3g in the status bar, but if I went to SettIngs-->About Device--> Status the phone was actually connected at 1x not 3g. Not sure why it doesn't show 1x in the notification bar.
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Unless you are rooted and running a custom Rom that is capable of displaying 1x, the stock Sprint Rom will always show 3g.

I suppose my area has something to do with my 3g speeds I live near Cincinnati and I'm sure the towers are over loaded
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Am i the only one with 4G problems?

Looked in General and Q&A and can't find anyone complaining about 4G reception. This stupid phone doesn't hold 4G indoors ANYWHERE I go. My Galaxy S2 never had problems like this. This phone is always switching to EDGE. ALWAYS!!! Really causing me to regret my purchase. Also, my "4G" speed test has never gone faster than 3.5-4Mbps down, where my GS2 averaged 9-15Mbps. Only flaw I have had with this phone. I read Verizon users are having the same issues with their GS3. This damn phone annoys the hell outta me and hope the Galaxy Note doesn't have the same radio as this because I can't wait to replace this phone. I love it and how fluid the ui is, but I pay for the 10GB data plan, but this idiotic phone doesn't allow me to use it. And I've had it replaced twice. Gonna replace the SIM later today and see if that helps. So, am I the only one? And I live in an excellent 4G area according to T-Mobile.

This may not help, but could be worth a try.
Open the dialer and enter *#*#4636#*#*
Once u hit the last * it should open up a menu. Select Device Information, scroll down a little and there should be a box to click on. Choose WCDMA Only and see if you can get onto 4G now. If you can get 4G, you can go back and choose WCDMA preffered and see if it acts ok on this setting.
Worth a try at least. Good luck!
And have you called tmobile to see if they are having problems with any towers in your area?
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You don't have to insult the phone, just state your problem. Sheesh
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IRIE4IPIER said:
Looked in General and Q&A and can't find anyone complaining about 4G reception. This stupid phone doesn't hold 4G indoors ANYWHERE I go. My Galaxy S2 never had problems like this. This phone is always switching to EDGE. ALWAYS!!! Really causing me to regret my purchase. Also, my "4G" speed test has never gone faster than 3.5-4Mbps down, where my GS2 averaged 9-15Mbps. Only flaw I have had with this phone. I read Verizon users are having the same issues with their GS3. This damn phone annoys the hell outta me and hope the Galaxy Note doesn't have the same radio as this because I can't wait to replace this phone. I love it and how fluid the ui is, but I pay for the 10GB data plan, but this idiotic phone doesn't allow me to use it. And I've had it replaced twice. Gonna replace the SIM later today and see if that helps. So, am I the only one? And I live in an excellent 4G area according to T-Mobile.
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I'm having some similar issues. I can get 4g indoors, but seems to switch around without even moving the phone. I'm wondering if it's a "feature" of the SGS3. Uses less battery to hold EDGE/3g and then when it detects data transfer, switches to 4g... I dunno.
That being said, you can try installing the new OTA which has a new radio. Or if your rooted etc, flash the radio zip Wild put up. I've noticed some improvements with signal strength, but it still seems to swap based on what I'm doing.
Anybody more knowledgeable have any info on this "smart data management"?

The phone will only stay at 4G during data transfers, while idle it'll drop back to 3G. I don't think it should be dropping to edge/2G though.
Did you try the method I mentioned in my other post?
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DocHoliday77 said:
The phone will only stay at 4G during data transfers, while idle it'll drop back to 3G. I don't think it should be dropping to edge/2G though.
Did you try the method I mentioned in my other post?
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Yes I did and thank you for bringing that to attention , I don't know how I let that slip my mind, I used that setting to fix my last two Samsung phones, Nexus S and GS2. They both would do this just not as bad as the GS3, now the phone holds its 4G/3G much better with WCDMA only turned on. Now I have zero gripes about this phone.
Anyone know what the difference is between HSPA:10 and HSPA+15? Is the latter the HSPA42 T-Mobile advertises?

hold the phone upside down. works wonders i swear lol. especially when you're trying to download something.

If you used WiMAX 4G non-LTE and do NOT have LTE available in your area...

I upgraded from the ET4G which has WiMax 4g. There is a 4g tower literally 1/4 mile down my street and i was getting an average of 8-10Mb/sec download speed under Wimax.
I ASSUMED... (thats where i went wrong) I purchased the Note 2, and thought there was the 3g, 4g WiMAX, and 4g LTE modes/antennas. Nope. So now that I have the Note 2 without LTE in my area, I'm stuck with HORRIBLE 3g (CDMA) speeds. No more HD Netflix or even a reliable connection to Pandora (high quality).
I live in South Bay Silicon valley area in California. Now I have to WAIT until LTE rolls out before I can use a data connection speed over 100k/sec. I cant believe they made this phone without the ability to connect to WiMAX 4g. I suppose WiMAX 4g will trashed once LTE rolls out and that would be a waste of hardware in the phone but there was no warning in the tech specs or Sprint reps.
Just warning to all out there wanting to upgrade the the Galaxy Note 2 where LTE is not available but have WiMAX speeds. The phone will NOT pick up WiMAX 4G. I would have waited to upgrade. =(

jeffokada81 said:
I upgraded from the ET4G which has standard 4g. There is a 4g tower literally 1/4 mile down my street and i was getting an average of 8-10Mb/sec download speed under 4g.
I ASSUMED... (thats where i went wrong) I purchased the Note 2, and thought there was the 3g, 4g, and 4g LTE modes/antennas. Nope. So now that I have the Note 2 without LTE in my area, I'm stuck with HORRIBLE 3g (CDMA) speeds. No more HD Netflix or even a reliable connection to Pandora (high quality).
I live in South Bay Silicon valley area in California. Now I have to WAIT until LTE rolls out before I can use a data connection speed over 100k/sec. I cant believe they made this phone without the ability to connect to standard 4g. I supposed 4g will trashed once LTE rolls aout and that would be a waste of hardware in the phone but there was no warning in the tech specs or Sprint reps.
Just warning to all out there wanting to upgrade the the Galaxy Note 2 where LTE is not available but have standard 4g speeds. The phone will NOT pick up 4G. I would have waited to upgrade. =(
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You could always switch back to the epic 4G Touch until LTE arrives and use the note 2 as a WiFi device.
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woah, seriously? I had no idea this was the case... major bummer. I wonder if custom ROMs have the option?

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You could always switch back to the epic 4G Touch until LTE arrives and use the note 2 as a WiFi device.
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Very true, I was just hoping to sell it for $200 and make some money back off the the beastly Note 2 price (on contract when purchased). Its so sad, I'm so used to looking at the 720p screen, it makes the E4GT look so much like a girly phone. =) I read some articles on how fast the 4g LTE should be coming out with wider coverage, I guess LTE is supposed to cover just about everywhere that has 3G coverage. Just a matter of time.Since the Optimus G and the Note 2 are being released, they are pushing LTE as "quick as they can" supposedly.

Dioscorus said:
woah, seriously? I had no idea this was the case... major bummer. I wonder if custom ROMs have the option?
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I checked as best I could. I went into the phones hidden menu using the MSL code and checked the settings. There is no mode for 4G and 4G LTE separately. Sprint tech support also confirmed this (which I don't believe the crap they say). I gave them a hard time because I had a very hard time believing that that phone would not pickup standard 4G.
The app called 'PHONE INFO' on the market show you all your options for radio settings also.

A simple, quick google search would have confirmed that this phone does not have a WiMAX antenna... Samsung tried the best they could to standardize the hardware - not only across carriers but globally as well.

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A simple, quick google search would have confirmed that this phone does not have a WiMAX antenna... Samsung tried the best they could to standardize the hardware - not only across carriers but globally as well.
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Thats why I used the words 'I ASSUMED' It makes sense to have WiMAX built in. A normal person would assume it would hence the posting. Just a warning thread.
You wouldn't think to check if, 4G would work on a 4G LTE phone.

Not to piss on ur rant bit its been said a million times by sprint and everyone else no new wimax devices wayyy back before evo lte launched its kinda a no Brainer, that this device wouldn't have wimax jus sayin
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randy2 said:
Not to piss on ur rant bit its been said a million times by sprint and everyone else no new wimax devices wayyy back before evo lte launched its kinda a no Brainer, that this device wouldn't have wimax jus sayin
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Obviously my fault with not keeping up with tech specs. I stayed on T-mobile after switching from Sprint just phone their line of phones and recently came back to Sprint. GSM is alot more simple.

jeffokada81 said:
I checked as best I could. I went into the phones hidden menu using the MSL code and checked the settings. There is no mode for 4G and 4G LTE separately. Sprint tech support also confirmed this (which I don't believe the crap they say). I gave them a hard time because I had a very hard time believing that that phone would not pickup standard 4G.
The app called 'PHONE INFO' on the market show you all your options for radio settings also.
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Even though I was basically without 4G since the inception, I am glad that they didnt include a WiMax radio on this phone. It is a battery leach (so it was always turned off) and I would not want to change the battery life of this phone ever. I am right now on 1 day 5 hours with about 15% left on this battery charge.

yankees177 said:
Even though I was basically without 4G since the inception, I am glad that they didnt include a WiMax radio on this phone. It is a battery leach (so it was always turned off) and I would not want to change the battery life of this phone ever. I am right now on 1 day 5 hours with about 15% left on this battery charge.
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Yes, WiMAX was a leach! At least the specs for battery life are close to 3g battery life. Something i can look forward to.

Not claiming the validity of the thread but I only have one problem which is the OP calling WiMax a standard 4G. So far only LTE Advanced (not a regular LTE) is capable of such standard.

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Not claiming the validity of the thread but I only have one problem which is the OP calling WiMax a standard 4G. So far only LTE Advanced (not a regular LTE) is capable of such standard.
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I was thinking about correcting that but i figure people got the idea.... ill go ahead and change that...

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the sprint s3 the same way? Lte only, no wimax?
I'm sorry about this, but honestly this was a no Brainer. Once sprint signed on with lte, wimax was done. To expect them to put a battery draining radio they had no intention of continuing with (known for a very long time) would be unrealistic.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the sprint s3 the same way? Lte only, no wimax?
I'm sorry about this, but honestly this was a no Brainer. Once sprint signed on with lte, wimax was done. To expect them to put a battery draining radio they had no intention of continuing with (known for a very long time) would be unrealistic.
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I've been following the thread since the first page and have been waiting for someone to post exactly this. Complete no brainer IMO

Jocelyn said:
I've been following the thread since the first page and have been waiting for someone to post exactly this. Complete no brainer IMO
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Ah, oh well. I should have kept up with the High speed specs of LTE and WiMAX. I just went out and bought the lastest and greatest. I'm your typical "USER". I did some searching. obviously AFTER the fact and it seems I'm not the only one which make me feel a bit better about getting flamed.

It's not a big deal, and in fact, I'm a bit surprised you didn't get hammered sooner and harder. I'm thinking these forums are not as active or less forgiving than say the development forums.
Enjoy your new toy, I'm jealous but I'm holding off till development is further along.
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This is coming from a 4 year XDA vet? Really? Wow...
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It's not a big deal, and in fact, I'm a bit surprised you didn't get hammered sooner and harder. I'm thinking these forums are not as active or less forgiving than say the development forums.
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Duh
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Duh
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Lol! Just gonna leave leave the thread open to how much my rectum can take...

the decline of verizon service

since I've had my gnex these are my favorite highlights of verizon service
1. LTE started at 25 megs it's now at 10
2. My unlimited contract is technically still valid but for some reason I can barely ever break 4gb since they stopped offering it
3. Following my internet service Verizon now pre compresses data like pictures sent to my phone = crappy resolutions
4. 2 years after the launch of LTE the service area has steadily declined
5. Google voice magically stopped working on the first day of last months billing period = 140 extra dollar bill they wont discount
6. They dont improve the signal they rewrite the software to display more bars
7. When you go to the speed test app magically your phone is faster, something Samsung was recently caught doing
8. This month our 17% employee discount mysteriously needs to be renewed - they forgot to notify us - last time we went for 11 months without it. And we can't do it online.
9. My phone has problems charging but they claim the internet is lies about it being a charging port issue even though I can wiggle it fixed in front of them.
10. bloatware
11. Mysterious connection delays that they say is "solved" by purchasing a new phone
I know I have some more, the point being that before you go out and get a Verizon phone because it's supposed to the best service, look around and make sure it still is.

In my area Wyoming. Verizon really screwed up and sold alltel to at&t. Verizon used to piggy back on alltel towers and alltel was the main cell provider. At&t is now turning off the old alltel service on the towers and making them gsm only. Seems like my service gets worse monthly now and some areas like where I work have quit completely but att that was non existent before is full bars on my work phone. If it wasn't for their better costumer service and having unlimited data I would be done. They day they say no more unlimited data I say goodbye. Probably go back to dumb phone as I can't afford a 12gb data plan.
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circuitsports said:
since I've had my gnex these are my favorite highlights of verizon service
1. LTE started at 25 megs it's now at 10
2. My unlimited contract is technically still valid but for some reason I can barely ever break 4gb since they stopped offering it
3. Following my internet service Verizon now pre compresses data like pictures sent to my phone = crappy resolutions
4. 2 years after the launch of LTE the service area has steadily declined
5. Google voice magically stopped working on the first day of last months billing period = 140 extra dollar bill they wont discount
6. They dont improve the signal they rewrite the software to display more bars
7. When you go to the speed test app magically your phone is faster, something Samsung was recently caught doing
8. This month our 17% employee discount mysteriously needs to be renewed - they forgot to notify us - last time we went for 11 months without it. And we can't do it online.
9. My phone has problems charging but they claim the internet is lies about it being a charging port issue even though I can wiggle it fixed in front of them.
10. bloatware
11. Mysterious connection delays that they say is "solved" by purchasing a new phone
I know I have some more, the point being that before you go out and get a Verizon phone because it's supposed to the best service, look around and make sure it still is.
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Not that I'm terribly happy with Verizon, but I'm not sure what you mean by some of these?
1. Probably congestion with all the 4g phones.
2. How can you not get more than 4gb? Does your service stop?
3. How would this do this without extra local software?
4. 4g service is pretty extensive in my area, but it's no bigger than their 3g was and att now has much better coverage.
5. How would you suddenly be charged if Google voice stops working?
9. Likely crud in your micro use port. Sharpen a toothpick to get it out. I've had this from time to time.
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That's really odd. I will say that i've noticed a tad bit of slowdown in general on their LTE network but i would attribute that to the great increase of traffic compared to what it was when the Nexus originally came out.
I just broke 8 gigs of data usage this month, not sure why you are having problems. Do you have insurance on your phone?

I disagree with everything you're saying, OP.
The next town over, to this day, I get around 40 Mbps down consistently, and last month I used 17 GB.
Speeds and coverage depend on the phone of course, like the Droid RAZR M RIGHT NEXT TO MY GALAXY NEXUS was getting around 2x the download speeds.
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Is it really not that obvious? New phone have better radios hardware and software wise. When you upgrade your service and speeds will be better
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I just wanted to update my previous post about the service Wyoming. They actually are putting up towers and 4g in the middle of nowhere that was previously lost when they sold to att. So my service is actually getting better now. I have service now where I need it.
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I don't know how to address all of your points, because I'm pretty sure some of them aren't problems with Verizon's network, but I can say that network speed was absolutely destined to decrease after the boom of LTE phones.
It's happened with every network after they hit a critical mass of LTE devices.
Network congestion is a serious problem that isn't easily solved. Throwing more towers at it can help mitigate the issue, but much of the problem boils down to limited spectrum- the same reason why populated wifi connections are unusable. It doesn't have to do with the routers being bottlenecked, it's simply the spectrum being overcrowded.

bubarub said:
Is it really not that obvious? New phone have better radios hardware and software wise. When you upgrade your service and speeds will be better
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No its not because I have a galaxy s4 on Verizon my girl has AT&T with a iPhone 5 and AT&T 3g/hspa is faster than Verizon's 4g/LTE/3g
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Same thing happened to me. My 4G is now almost non-existent at my house. Used to get 20mbs down. I still broke 80gbs last month (sick and staying at home) but speeds are a fraction of what it used to be.
I opened a T-Mobile line to test out their service in my area (LA/OC) and its pretty awesome. Dead spot here and there but nothing I didn't experience on Verizon either. Also wanted to test how true their unlimited data is. Its been 3 days and pushing 8 gigs. I bypassed the tether block as well. Looking good so far but still got 20 more days to go.
Also picked up an S4 with T-Mobile. Really blows my Gnex to shame. Tethering and charging doesnt turn my phone into a brick of fire. Its been a few hours and the phone is still very cool. Battery even lasts 2-3x longer than the Gnex even while tethering vs Gnex being idle. Its crazy.

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No its not because I have a galaxy s4 on Verizon my girl has AT&T with a iPhone 5 and AT&T 3g/hspa is faster than Verizon's 4g/LTE/3g
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Agreed, this is a common occurrence. LTE has a theoretical max of what, 100mbps? So eventually it *should* surpass HSPA+/HSDPA.
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antawnm26 said:
No its not because I have a galaxy s4 on Verizon my girl has AT&T with a iPhone 5 and AT&T 3g/hspa is faster than Verizon's 4g/LTE/3g
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In context of the O.P's comment he is right. Within Verizons network if you update to a new device it will have better optimized software and radios compared to an older device that Verizon refuses to allow an update for.

my only issue with Verizon is their charging out the ass part
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