When the ics update come in, I want to install this update, I have doomkernel, rom stock 2.3.4, root.
After update, I have root permition and my apps ?
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depends on how you update. i believe that if you update OTA (over the air) then you will retain all apps and root.
fma965 said:
depends on how you update. i believe that if you update OTA (over the air) then you will retain all apps and root.
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Ok thank !
fma965 said:
depends on how you update. i believe that if you update OTA (over the air) then you will retain all apps and root.
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But he said that he has Doomkernel which means he is bootloader unlocked. So doing an OTA would obviously brick the phone.
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Technologic797 said:
But he said that he has Doomkernel which means he is bootloader unlocked. So doing an OTA would obviously brick the phone.
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unless he unlocked via testpoint
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unless he unlocked via testpoint
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I may be incorrect but I thought that either unlocked via test point you wold still brick your phone if you do an OTA, when I OTA'd this last time a couple months ago I had to re-lock my bootloader, then update, then re-unlock.
Ok. Well that doomkernel wouldn't boot in ics anyway so he would need to fastboot/flashmode stock kernel anyway . Actually when you think about it ics would not be released ota as you would need new kernel and they can only be flashed via pc.
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unless ofcourse sony are able to flash the boot partition? . . .are they?
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unless ofcourse sony are able to flash the boot partition? . . .are they?
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I think they are probably just going to release it via SEUS, cuz I doubt they have any means of updating kernel OTA either
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I think they are probably just going to release it via SEUS, cuz I doubt they have any means of updating kernel OTA either
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i guess we will have to wait and see.
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will my phone brick if i accept an update while its rooted??
The bootloader is locked
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will my phone brick if i accept an update while its rooted??
The bootloader is locked
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No. But the update will fail if you have removed any apps from /system/app/.
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No. But the update will fail if you have removed any apps from /system/app/.
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so should i use titanium backup to restore all my apps and then update??
Thanks for your help, im used to custom roms!! damn you locked bootloaders!!
i'm always reading about unlock bootloader can brick if trying to update using OTA..what about PCC?..is it still the same if we update using PCC?..
i'm planning to unlock the bootloader to install custom rom but want to know more about updating using the official sony update..
thanks..
kumbangdesa said:
i'm always reading about unlock bootloader can brick if trying to update using OTA..what about PCC?..is it still the same if we update using PCC?..
i'm planning to unlock the bootloader to install custom rom but want to know more about updating using the official sony update..
thanks..
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You can always relock bootloader when you want to update. Cheers.
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if you're unlock,use flashtool,better than PCC..
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i'm always reading about unlock bootloader can brick if trying to update using OTA..what about PCC?..is it still the same if we update using PCC?..
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OTA bricks your device and afaik PCC won't recognize your device anymore.
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kumbangdesa said:
i'm always reading about unlock bootloader can brick if trying to update using OTA..what about PCC?..is it still the same if we update using PCC?..
i'm planning to unlock the bootloader to install custom rom but want to know more about updating using the official sony update..
thanks..
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To sum up the above,
BL unlocking voids your warranty.
You do receive update notifications for OTA update on BLunlocked phones that run stock SE f/w.
However, upgrading OTA will cause Bootloops.
If you want to be able to update OTA, you need to re-lock the bootloader, by flashing it.
After this is done, you will be able to upgrade over the air.
But seriously. Why do you need OTA when there are awesome Cooked ROMs with plentiful optimizations here on XDA?
There are awesome devs like doomed151, DoomLord, iridaki, who are actively contributing to this community...
Moreover, the Stock F/w update is mostly delayed based on regions, which isn't the case with these awesome ROMs like Saosin's MIUI , doomed151's arconium,etc
Take Arconium for example. Arconium 7b2 was the best thing that happened to my phone.
And with DoomKernel 18Fix1, Its blistering performance compared to the stock OTA F/w amazes me everytime.
- Another Supercharged Arconite running 7b2 Overclocked @ 1.4GHz
thank you very much guys for the answers..now i'm understand what should i do..cheers..
agree..like .62 fw,i found it here before PCC,so who care about PCC or OTA,we got flashtool,in xda there are more than anything
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hello.. my current fw is .431 and there is a new update 587
how to install new update w/o losing root?
I believe if you update OTA you can keep root.
For me, I just relocked my bootloader, flashed stock image, used pc companion to update to new firmware, then unlocked bootloader, flashed stock kernel with cwm from old firmware. Then used old root tutorials to get root then flashed my kernel of preference.
Easy right?
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it's Easy
if you're on locked bootloader
OTA update will keep your root..,
or if it didn't reach you OTA flash the firmware with flashtool
and it's the same root method for .431 ..,with .587 kernel of course
or if you are with an unlocked bootloader
flash the firmware with flashtool
then flash the advanced kernel .587 ..,you'll find it in the development section
after that flash superuser with CWM from here
hope i helped you =)
^^^^That guy was much more helpful you should thank him
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will i lose all MOD like battery, recent app ....and root if update new Sony firmware by PC companion ???
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will i lose all MOD like battery, recent app ....and root if update new Sony firmware by PC companion ???
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Yes, u loose everything.
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Im sorry.. im newbie.. what is OTA?
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OTA is the short form for Over The Air i.e. updating via WiFi or using data on your mobile.
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OTA is the short form for Over The Air i.e. updating via WiFi or using data on your mobile.
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Thanks..
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But if you can update via OTA how?
lately on the .431 FW i tried to update it via wifi.. but still it ask me to update it via pc companion.
"You need to plug pc companion in order to update" it says something like that...
but take note that some countries don't have the the new base available via OTA. only method is PC companion.
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I have problem updating OTA. When it finishes downloading and I tap install, it reboot the logo appear that is updating but when reboot to home screen it says that could not update. My phone is rooted. I didn't install cwm, only bisybox.
My status:
Code:
- .431 with wotanserver
- Unlocked bootloader using testpoint keeping trackid (Omnius)
- stock firmware + CWM
- Rooted using Superuser
- Some system apps uninstalled.
If I try to update through OTA it makes the first boot and says "Error updating"
What shall I do?
Relock the bootloader? (in this case shall I pay to unlock it again?)
Backup all with titanium, use wotanserver with new version and root again?
Restore all deleted apps and OTA?
Thanks, and sorry, I could not find the proper answer.
To arcuser,
I know what you mean.I tried it as well a couple of days before your first post.Didnt happen.But later in the evening there was a notification from Sony Ericsson via Update Centre on the device that an update was available via WiFi.Clicked on the notification and sweetas iam on build 4.1.B.0.587.
That's the only change that happened and yes the screen comes on faster when you are about to make calls.
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Sorry nvm :$
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To arcuser,
I know what you mean.I tried it as well a couple of days before your first post.Didnt happen.But later in the evening there was a notification from Sony Ericsson via Update Centre on the device that an update was available via WiFi.Clicked on the notification and sweetas iam on build 4.1.B.0.587.
That's the only change that happened and yes the screen comes on faster when you are about to make calls.
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Hi!, apart from what you mention, there are more improvements, some of them led notification works better than before, people say it's has less bugs than prior ones.
I've also same trouble, the upgrade is available by OTA but when you download and install it, it reboots and show you an icon and a message indicating it didn't upgraded. It looks that it consider prior installed version and when it upgrades it needs pure sony kernel and rom, otherwise you receive the message. And also, if you do in the other way.. this is upgrade with pc companion you loose your root, so the current solution seems to be going back to . A.0.562 -next to B.0.431 and the root and finally upgrade with OTA b.0.587. This is what people say that works, some guys did it and works, but it is a pain in your but doing all these steps.. so does anyone knows any other way of doing it?
without knowing my phone's bootloader was unlocked by the shop in the 1st place!!!
it's currently 6.1.A.2.45 Root Status: Unlocked Bootloader = Yes...
after downloading the update, the phone shut down automatically while installing the update, and a brief recovery screen appear on the restart, the phone would still start normally but there's a notification telling me the update could not be installed
I repeated this a few times then only I realize my phone was unlocked and OTA shouldn't be done on an unlocked phone :crying:
had it done any damage? I can't tell....
please help, thank you guys very much in advance........
Is your device new? Its not supposed to have the bootloader unlocked...
You can use flashtool
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BanorBhai said:
Is your device new? Its not supposed to have the bootloader unlocked...
You can use flashtool
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the shop must have unlocked and rooted it for me I guess, not sure about their warranty policy
has Sony implemented a safety measure to prevent unlocked phone from installing the udpate? people used to get into trouble for OTA-updating unlocked phone right?
TQVM..
you have purchase a used phone no shop or company will root android device or unlock bootloader,this things are void your warranty
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ashy said:
the shop must have unlocked and rooted it for me I guess, not sure about their warranty policy
has Sony implemented a safety measure to prevent unlocked phone from installing the udpate? people used to get into trouble for OTA-updating unlocked phone right?
TQVM..
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If u have an unlocked bootloader on ur device, u will experience FOTA brick while you try update OTA, I heard PCC stops working as well but SUS works for some. But you always have access to flashtool for flashing new fw.
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BanorBhai said:
If u have an unlocked bootloader on ur device, u will experience FOTA brick while you try update OTA, I heard PCC stops working as well but SUS works for some. But you always have access to flashtool for flashing new fw.
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If someday it happens to me, there is some way to enable the usb in debugging mode or I dont need that?
What you suggest update it or not? I heard rooting is not possible after upgrade to .55 with lock bootloader. Anything new in this firmware except baseband.
Some says better battery life.
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there is an OTA of 36.1mb on my device..! will i loose the root, cwm and mods !! if i go for it ??
Ynt: 6.1.A.2.55 For UAE now official Xperia S
I'm using that and yes impossible to root without unlocked BL.. You'll lose your cwm, root, kernel..
Xperia S - .55 Stock FW, Unlocked BL, Advanced Stock Kernel
So i love to stay in Locked bootloader. No need to update it.
The OTA upgrade kept root on my XPS.
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I dont have OTA i must update trought pc companion, whic i wont.
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one is saying root will retain one is saying will be lost .. .. .eww
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one is saying root will retain one is saying will be lost .. .. .eww
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abdyasar said:
I'm using that and yes impossible to root without unlocked BL.. You'll lose your cwm, root, kernel..
Xperia S - .55 Stock FW, Unlocked BL, Advanced Stock Kernel
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OTA will wipe CWM.. Root this what above person said
alexpraga said:
The OTA upgrade kept root on my XPS.
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OTA will NOT effect root.. . .!
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so m confused
Well u can always make backup of ur current rom and then update. If sh... hits the fan u can always flash. 50 with flashtool and restore.
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Kornezije said:
Well u can always make backup of ur current rom and then update. If sh... hits the fan u can always flash. 50 with flashtool and restore.
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I wanted to know what is new in .55 if nothing else then i will remain in .50.