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The possible advantages of ROOT being disabled in CM9..

I didn't want to post this in the CM9 dev thread because it is not dev related.
First off..
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/security-and-you
Users will be able to configure their exposure to root as:
Disabled
Enabled for ADB only
Enabled for Apps only
Enabled for both
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So this is what I am thinking.. The CM team is not just going to come out and say "This is how we get around Google's (and other's) 'you can't use this app if your device is rooted' thing".. But if you can disable/enable root with a setting it seems to me you wont have to worry about not being able to access certain apps, or features of apps, because of root.
Example: My "Horrible Bosses" BD came with a digital copy only accessible through the Flixster app. Because of the "security risks" Flixster will only let you view/download the movie on non-rooted devices. The simple fix to this was to download OTArootkeeper (which is an awesome app), the app essentially is a switch to enable/disable root access. Turn root off, Flixster never knows the difference.
It seems to me CM has just integrated this feature into their ROM, and maybe improved upon it. Any time an app (Flixster, Google Video & even maybe Google Wallet) will not work because you are on a rooted device, just turn it off. I have even heard of some people that cannot access databases at work because of root, seams like the same thing applies here.
So what do y'all think? Does this sound like a legitimate thought? Obviously being rooted is a security risk, and CM is becoming more mainstream. But still.. Do you think I am that far off? And do you think the "feature" will function just like I have described it? Just came to get you opinions on this change.

Sounds like you've hit the nail on the head there, although I don't see why company's don't want you consuming there content if your rooted.

Jameslepable said:
Sounds like you've hit the nail on the head there, although I don't see why company's don't want you consuming there content if your rooted.
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The MPAA/RIAA don't understand technology, that's why. Remember SOPA/PIPA?

Why does root matter? I am rooted and can rent movies from the market with no issue. Yet people say video is blocked for rooted users. It just worked for me. Maybe cause i am rooted on stock?

RogerPodacter said:
Why does root matter? I am rooted and can rent movies from the market with no issue. Yet people say video is blocked for rooted users. It just worked for me. Maybe cause i am rooted on stock?
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Possibly, the last time I tried I got shot down. I'm not sure which of the root option(s) the Market looks for (?). Want to test, but can't find a movie I want to see just yet.

Root matters to watch videos from the market. Unroot, watch, then reroot.
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OTA Rootkeeper can temporarily unroot and then reroot any ROM. Tested and works with rented movies.
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My job has a BYOD policy that allows everyone in the company to get their email on their phones. They make you go through the Touchdown app and MobileIron.
This program reports back to them if your phone is rooted and they disconnect your account if you are...

Try as I might, I cannot figure out what BYOD stands for.
Bring your own ****?
Buy your own douche?
Maybe my mind is just warped.

adrynalyne said:
Try as I might, I cannot figure out what BYOD stands for.
Bring your own ****?
Buy your own douche?
Maybe my mind is just warped.
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Buy your own device?

mudferret said:
Buy your own device?
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Probably. Don't mind me, I suffer from a deranged and sick mind.

adrynalyne said:
Probably. Don't mind me, I suffer from a deranged and sick mind.
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I think it's Bring Your Own Device.

adrynalyne said:
Try as I might, I cannot figure out what BYOD stands for.
Bring your own ****?
Buy your own douche?
Maybe my mind is just warped.
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Bring Your Own Device
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... possible advantage: have a phone manufacturer use CM as their firmware? yes....?

This was actually mentioned sometime earlier... a month or 2 ago... the idea was that if the ROM provided the best level of customization, root really should not be needed for the average user... but the ROM would still have the option to enable root if the user wanted too...

craigacgomez said:
This was actually mentioned sometime earlier... a month or 2 ago... the idea was that if the ROM provided the best level of customization, root really should not be needed for the average user... but the ROM would still have the option to enable root if the user wanted too...
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That's the problem though. The average user would not know what root is and activate it and would do something to their phone that would cause problems. U.S. carriers will not like this.

I wonder if Tasker or llama could be setup to turn root off when a particular app runs?
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nicholaschum said:
I think it's Bring Your Own Device.
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This has actually become pretty popular in the workplace now and will probably continue to grow...
And to the dude who said bring your own d.ck, I sure hope you do because carrying around someone elses is just wrong.

player911 said:
Root matters to watch videos from the market. Unroot, watch, then reroot.
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But i am renting a movie right now and it plays fine. I am rooted.

Here is a video of the feature in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mRyE10eKzqE
Its strange to me that some people are reporting root not affecting Google Video. I haven't tried it on my Nexus, between TiVo Netflix and Redbox there is no reason for me to, but on my Atrix when Video first released I remember it saying I couldnt use the app because my device was rooted..
Those of you able to use the Google Videos app on a rooted device, what root method did you use?

So why root?

I rooted my GN2 the day I bought it but now with OTA update rolling out I have to unroot. Wonder why I rooted in the first place...
The only good thing about rooting so far is being able to remove bloatware (flipboard, etc.). What are other benefits? No wireless tether yet (and I'm sure there will be a non-root solution to this coming), no access to google wallet, tweaking CPU or other settings is not really a concern since phone is so snappy with stock rom unrooted. I don't think the benefits of rooting justify the hassle and disadvantages (such as not being able to receive OTA update) of rooting.
What do you think?

For the fun of tinkering?
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mrcrptguy said:
For the fun of tinkering?
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This.........
And knowing you can restore from backup if something goes wrong. Everyone has their own reasons for root. But just knowing if you want to tinker around with your device, you can.

kg1128 said:
I rooted my GN2 the day I bought it but now with OTA update rolling out I have to unroot. Wonder why I rooted in the first place...
The only good thing about rooting so far is being able to remove bloatware (flipboard, etc.). What are other benefits? No wireless tether yet (and I'm sure there will be a non-root solution to this coming), no access to google wallet, tweaking CPU or other settings is not really a concern since phone is so snappy with stock rom unrooted. I don't think the benefits of rooting justify the hassle and disadvantages (such as not being able to receive OTA update) of rooting.
What do you think?
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You can be rooted and still receive the OTA update. As long as you dont remove any system apps or install a custom recovery you are good to go! If you would like to keep root during OTA you can enable SuperSU survival mode also.

mrcrptguy said:
For the fun of tinkering?
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If your asking yourself why root then why did you choose to root? Root is awesome for people who love to play around with their devices and make changes to them to fit their needs. If you think the device is awesome the way it is then the only reason to root would probably be for backing up your apps.
To proper answer this question. "So why root?". Because we want to. Not everyone shares our joy of rooting but this is XDA and most of what we do here revolves around having a rooted device.

If u dont want to root then the question should be why android ? U like being limited to what the company gives u dont u ?
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With rooting you can customize your device as you like
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kg1128 said:
I rooted my GN2 the day I bought it but now with OTA update rolling out I have to unroot. Wonder why I rooted in the first place...
The only good thing about rooting so far is being able to remove bloatware (flipboard, etc.). What are other benefits? No wireless tether yet (and I'm sure there will be a non-root solution to this coming), no access to google wallet, tweaking CPU or other settings is not really a concern since phone is so snappy with stock rom unrooted. I don't think the benefits of rooting justify the hassle and disadvantages (such as not being able to receive OTA update) of rooting.
What do you think?
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There is a laundry list of benefits to rooting your device, too many to list here, but the main reason IMO is so you can make your device YOUR own!
Eventually the DEVs will have the OTA built into their ROMS and tweeks. You also benefit from adding the BEST features and tweeks that often are not included in Stock builds, or are actually screwed up by Stock builds and updates. You can also just root your device and stay mostly stock, then add features, mods, and tweeks at your liking.
So, for me, its all about having options and being able to set up the device how I like it best. I think you'll find most people on here feel the same way. For me, I don't even activate a device unless its rooted first... Not rooting is kind of like having a Sports car and not being able to do any mods to it,- no air cleaners, no wheels, no gauges, no upgrades, just having to leave it the way you bought isn't ANY fun!
Thanks to all the people who work hard to make the good stuff happen!
ROOT IT :good:

It's not that complicated to un root and takes 60 seconds. ..

Full App+Data backup/restore and tethering.
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BigJPNut said:
You can be rooted and still receive the OTA update. As long as you dont remove any system apps or install a custom recovery you are good to go! If you would like to keep root during OTA you can enable SuperSU survival mode also.
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That's not been my experience with my GS3. I've attempted to install the few OTA's that have come for the phone and while you can hit the Install now button, it fails to actually install it. Only once I unrooted did it actually complete.

I root cause its there.
Actually, its for the Ad Block and Titanium Backup and then Tether whenever that comes along.

I did it so I could meet and date supermodels

to get rid of ads, I also plan on putting the perseus kernal on it so I can charge my phone with a car charger. and as everyone else stated, to be able to make it how I like it.

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epicnoob66 said:
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In 8bit color?

kg1128 said:
I rooted my GN2 the day I bought it but now with OTA update rolling out I have to unroot. Wonder why I rooted in the first place...
The only good thing about rooting so far is being able to remove bloatware (flipboard, etc.). What are other benefits? No wireless tether yet (and I'm sure there will be a non-root solution to this coming), no access to google wallet, tweaking CPU or other settings is not really a concern since phone is so snappy with stock rom unrooted. I don't think the benefits of rooting justify the hassle and disadvantages (such as not being able to receive OTA update) of rooting.
What do you think?
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Its still a relatively new device and dev support hasn't REALLY taken off yet IMO. Go look at the S3 forum for example and there are threads all over the place with ROMs, kernels and MODs.

[INFO][RESEARCH] JB Flash Counter, Triangle Away

Please go to POST 56 for updated information. I will update the OP over the weekend. Thanks!​
As many of you already know, with our recent official Jelly Bean release came a new, updated flash counter. With ICS we were able to either just root via the root66 method and not trip the counter, or we could just use Chainfire's Triangle Away app to reset it. This is no longer the case. Now, with JB, unless our firmware meets a very strict set of conditions, it will trip the counter every time you reboot the device. If you simply just flash the root66 firmware, and do nothing else beyond that, you will not raise your count. But then, whats the point of rooting???
DON'T PANIC!
We can still zero it out for Warranty returns! The biggest issues arise when you want to utilize certain apps and/or services such as All Share Cast, Media Hub and other Samsung apps. For example, if you have purchased the $100 equipment, the All Share Cast Hub, it will not work! Additionally, DRM protected content may not play anymore. (Probably just applies to DRM protected media you got from Samsung, but this needs verification). For example, if you got to download the Avengers a couple of months ago, it will not play, even though it is perfectly legal to do so!
So are we able to get around this? Yes and No, for the moment. There are at least 2 separate detections going on. One is done post-boot, using the SysScope app. If you remove this from /system/app/ you will be able to install a custom recovery, and probably also a kernel and another modem without tripping the counter! I have yet to see any negative side effects from removing this app, so until I find more info proving otherwise, I suggest backing it up and deleting it. Hopefully Chainfire will decide to update Triangle Away to counter the updated detection. He may not though. Please read what he has to say about it here.
This does not solve the whole problem though. There is still another method Samsung coded in to detect if your system has been modified. I am not sure yet what is responsible fot this. But if you were to simply deodex your rom, it will begin tripping the counter at boot again! (It may not be the deodexing that is trigging it though, I believe it is also scanning for any processes that are running with root privledges that should not be there, and it may also have to do with busybox). Either way, if you are running pretty much any kind of custom rom, it will retrip the counter at bootup. This method is different in that it happens during boot, not after, and it does not look at recovery, and probably not at kernel or modem either. It appears to look specifically at the system partition for anything not stock. I am trying to narrow this down.
Because the other 2nd part seems to happen during bootup, I think that Chainfire's paid version may be able to help here. If you purchase it on the Play Store, it will have enabled the ability to Auto run at boot. Since SysScope is now removed, I dont think any detections are running post-boot anymore, meaning Auto run from Triangle Away should work. I do not have the paid version to test with right now. But I will try and test this soon.
I am fairly certain that the rest of the detection process is running either from the kernel, or from a completely separate partition. It is going to require quite a few flashes and test to narrow it down for sure. So if you guys will report your experiences with it, particularly on different kernels, I would be greatly appreciative.
As I find and/or remember more about this, I will update it here. If anyone has any other information about this, please do post it here! Any help, tips, info, etc that you can provide can be very helpful!
I hope this all made sense to you guys! I will go back and clarify some stuff a little later, but Ive got a 6 year old kid going stir crazy waiting on me to be done with this! I wanted to go ahead and get something up though to get the conversation started! I will also post some links to some information later on.
In the meantime, you can Odin back to ICS build UVALJ4, and then flash your roms from there...yes even the JB ones! I hate saying that after suggesting to Odin flash the JB update, but if you have anything not working because of this, it may be your best option temporarily.
Otherwise, delete SysScope from /system/app! And keep Triangle Away handy!
I will continue doing a lot of testing and trying to investigate this problem. But I do appreciate any help that you guys can give!
Hopefully, with a little luck we can figure this out! :highfive:
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I think that pretty much covers it...
I know that if you triangle away, and reboot to download mode, the counter's zero... if you boot into recovery and then boot into download mode the counter's still zero...
It gets triggered when you boot into the actual rom... I wonder if you odin to JB... then actually flash down to an ICS rom, does the counter get reset on boot?

scifan said:
I think that pretty much covers it...
I know that if you triangle away, and reboot to download mode, the counter's zero... if you boot into recovery and then boot into download mode the counter's still zero...
It gets triggered when you boot into the actual rom... I wonder if you odin to JB... then actually flash down to an ICS rom, does the counter get reset on boot?
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That's SysScope running after booting up. Flashing an ics rom over a fully updated JB will most likely also trip the counter due to the 2nd part of the device check which runs during boot. Worth trying though.
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Also need to find out if its the deodexing that triggers it, or something like busybox.
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Good info. And nice write up so your saying if we odin root66 ics we are ok to say flash gs3r7.zip to jb and the new custom rom detection wont be present?
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There's also a manual way I used to reset, back when my touchscreen died (and therefore could not even use TriangleAway) that we should 'throw into the mix' and test against JB...lemme see if I can dig up that thread...
Okay, here was the progenitor post, that may give clues if the old (ICS) way no longer works:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28953690&postcount=67
and the resultant manual method, which I verified worked on TMO (ICS):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781471

1Shotwonder said:
Good info. And nice write up so your saying if we odin root66 ics we are ok to say flash gs3r7.zip to jb and the new custom rom detection wont be present?
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Thanks!
Yes that is correct. I cannot guarantee you wont have any other bugs. Doing it this way you are essentially running half ics half jb. If you have no need of samsung services like media hub or all share cast, id go full jb. Otherwise id go with the ics UVALJ4 firmware and a jb rom.
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There's also a manual way I used to reset, back when my touchscreen died (and therefore could not even use TriangleAway) that we should 'throw into the mix' and test against JB...lemme see if I can dig up that thread...
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That would be great! Thanks!
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Good job Doc... :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
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Doc, I'd be more than happy to help out with this. Just shoot me a PM about where you are heading and I can see what I can do. I'm not adverse to getting in deep, so that is a non-issue.
My initial thoughts are to take a pretty simple approach and, for lack of a better few words, do a side-by-side of the new JB and the recent leaks and see what is different. Obviously it is a bit harder than than but we could breakdown the /system/apps, then move on the each partition scheme and see what the differences are and why they are different. Then start crossing off things like apps, 2boot check, something buried in on of the other partitions, ....

Really Samsung? God this crap is really starting to piss me off. Love how manufacturers don't want be enjoying my device.
On a more positive note, can't Samsung deny claims for just the CPU?
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only thing that bothers me is the avengers movie not playing in any of the players on the GS3R7 rom. ( I have tried to reset the counter and still does not play the movie... any ideas? It does work on stock jb root66 though). Other than that I dont use any other samsung apps. The other issue I have come across is with Root Explorer when trying to modify the build.prop for GW I can edit the build.prop but it will not save the changes I believe this to be an issue with the sdcard now being sdcard0 but I am not 100% any one have a way around this or know the fix?

wideasleep1 said:
There's also a manual way I used to reset, back when my touchscreen died (and therefore could not even use TriangleAway) that we should 'throw into the mix' and test against JB...lemme see if I can dig up that thread...
Okay, here was the progenitor post, that may give clues if the old (ICS) way no longer works:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28953690&postcount=67
and the resultant manual method, which I verified worked on TMO (ICS):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781471
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Thanks for looking those back up. Ill be checking them out later on today.
Woodrube said:
Doc, I'd be more than happy to help out with this. Just shoot me a PM about where you are heading and I can see what I can do. I'm not adverse to getting in deep, so that is a non-issue.
My initial thoughts are to take a pretty simple approach and, for lack of a better few words, do a side-by-side of the new JB and the recent leaks and see what is different. Obviously it is a bit harder than than but we could breakdown the /system/apps, then move on the each partition scheme and see what the differences are and why they are different. Then start crossing off things like apps, 2boot check, something buried in on of the other partitions, ....
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sounds good man! Kinda have a feeling ill be needing help on this one! Ill shoot you a pm later on. Gotta get going for now, but wanted to respond real quick.
1Shotwonder said:
only thing that bothers me is the avengers movie not playing in any of the players on the GS3R7 rom. ( I have tried to reset the counter and still does not play the movie... any ideas? It does work on stock jb root66 though). Other than that I dont use any other samsung apps. The other issue I have come across is with Root Explorer when trying to modify the build.prop for GW I can edit the build.prop but it will not save the changes I believe this to be an issue with the sdcard now being sdcard0 but I am not 100% any one have a way around this or know the fix?
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Its another thing I've got to figure out. If its just breaking Samsung related/downloaded stuff, or is it screwing with DRM altogether.
As to your other issue, wallets included with jb now so I assumed it wouldn't require a 'fix'. But it sounds more like a superuser problem with root explorer. Download chainfires cwm supersu from his thread and flash it. See if that helps. Not going to be related to this stuff though.
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Does reverting back to ics roll back the flash counter? I am really liking JB TW maybe time for a change lol
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Unfortunately I doesn't work that way. Would be sweet if it did, then all we'd have to do is roll back and we'd be good. Plus we could figure out the trigger and remedy it.

md1008 said:
Does reverting back to ics roll back the flash counter? I am really liking JB TW maybe time for a change lol
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If I'm not mistaken, you should be able to revert to ICS then use triangleaway and your counter will stay at 0.
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Woodrube said:
Unfortunately I doesn't work that way. Would be sweet if it did, then all we'd have to do is roll back and we'd be good. Plus we could figure out the trigger and remedy it.
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Triangle away, boot to recovery, then flash ICS on your phone...

Well my counter is stuck at 1 lol
What exactly trips the counter? I've seen multiple answers for the question but I figured ide ask here since there are so many knowledgeable people here
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So ive been reading this and from what i can gather, it seems that samsung (or T-Mobile) placed a new apk file into the system directory (or maybe a lib file?) and that if you root your device, every time you reboot your phone, it will +1 to the flash counter?
Has anyone asked any ATT, Sprint or Verizon users if their flash counter goes up with root after each reboot as well? If it doesnt, we could probably do a system file comparison between the two to isolate the file(s) which are causing the incremental flash counter at boot.

That's what I was saying earlier about comparing official and leak and seeing the differences. Sprint is the only one that has had official so not sure if that would work for us. Think we need to differentiate between Samsung and TMo and see where the "fault" lies.

Woodrube said:
That's what I was saying earlier about comparing official and leak and seeing the differences. Sprint is the only one that has had official so not sure if that would work for us. Think we need to differentiate between Samsung and TMo and see where the "fault" lies.
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That sounds like a good idea. I'll download one of the leaks and see if anything is obvious. It may also be a new line of code inside an apk or lib file as well. Making things a bit more difficult. As im comparing them i will check the size of each APK as well as if new code is added to them it should increase the size of the compiled apk. And i have my computer set up to show individual bytes of data.

SkyGO on rooted device?

Hi
Was just wondering if any of you UK users have got this app to work on a rooted phone? The fact Sky blocked the app from rooted devices is disgraceful, and I just wish Virgin TV had an alternative to this. I have tried hiding root via some apps and even though my phone says "not rooted," this stupid app still doesn't work.
Cheers

I've had it working on stock rooted roms using the Exynos abuse app. Can simply remove root when wanting to watch and reroot after. Only way I've found to get it working

bates_1974 said:
I've had it working on stock rooted roms using the Exynos abuse app. Can simply remove root when wanting to watch and reroot after. Only way I've found to get it working
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Cheers
This doesn't seem to work for me though with me though on stock rooted rom.

I work for Sky and as far as I'm aware they will never be able to make Sky Go work on rooted devices for a number of reasons, copyrighted content for one. I know it's a bind but at the end of the day, Sky Go is a free service. You don't subscribe to Sky just because of Sky Go nor do you buy a particular device just because of Sky Go. There are other apps out there that won't work on rooted devices, it's simply the risk you take by rooting. I've often thought of rooting but I have to outweigh what I'll lose over what I'll gain and with the things you can customise without rooting, I'm sticking with what I have.
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[Q] Downsides of Rooting

Hey all,
I have had some minor experience in unlocking and rooting my older android devices, but I was wondering if someone could shed some light on the current state of affairs. I just received a brand new nexus 7 and am trying to decide whether or not to unlock/root it.
I remember back with my Xoom as soon as I unlocked the boot-loader, Hulu stopped working. Is this still true? Are there any other side effects like that?
Thanks for all the help everyone

Nexus is basically made for rooting so no worries.
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Some apps don't run if you're rooted. However, that's usually not for any technical reason; it's just because some app makers write a check for root into their apps and refuse to run if they find root. I don't know if Hulu is like that, but you might want to check if you have any apps that are like that. Alternatively, you can always unroot or use a hide root app to get around the app check.

bananagranola said:
Some apps don't run if you're rooted. However, that's usually not for any technical reason; it's just because some app makers write a check for root into their apps and refuse to run if they find root. I don't know if Hulu is like that, but you might want to check if you have any apps that are like that. Alternatively, you can always unroot or use a hide root app to get around the app check.
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Which Hide root app do you suggest ?

I was going to recommend OTA Rootkeeper, but apparently 4.3's security changes prevent it from working. As far as I can tell, it looks like you can't hide root on 4.3.

Can anyone confirm whether or not Hulu works with Root?

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Can anyone confirm whether or not Hulu works with Root?
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I use it a few times a week to watch stuff. Works fine on my rooted N7 with CleanROM and ElementalX kernel.

I don't see how I get all kind of errors when I try rooting this is it cuz I'm using winxp?
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the one and only downside of rooting is you start suffering from ORD (Obsessive ROM-updating Disorder). I've been suffering it for past few months, and it seriously gets to my head sometimes.
Symptoms:
1) You feel like updating your ROM every day a nightly comes out, even if it is without any change. Just because it has a different incremental number.
2) You can't concentrate on studies, tv, movies, GFs, or even on your potty.
3) You dream about a new nightly every night after flashing current nightly.
4) You have titanium backup on your device.
Cure:
1) no cure.

I can't think of a single app that doesn't work with while rooted. It used to be Google Movies didn't work, but that's no longer the case.
Rooting isn't a big deal. The worst part is that it resets your devices to stock, so backup first.

MikeMurphy said:
I can't think of a single app that doesn't work with while rooted. It used to be Google Movies didn't work, but that's no longer the case.
Rooting isn't a big deal. The worst part is that it resets your devices to stock, so backup first.
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Sky Go! doesn't and so far there appears no work around. Unless someone has heard something!

I had some gps lock on issues after rooting, but now that its rooted I can edit the gps.conf and fix issues.
Found a good repository for gps.conf files will help in specific areas https://m.app.box.com/view_shared/w57s1v1n3hie7l5lk28i/d_1033932257