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Simplistic HTC Hero Kernel Question.

Hi All,
Running rooted Hero with Modaco 2.5.1 rom ( thanks Paul )
Was hoping someone could ( simplistically ) answer a few question for me.
As I understand it - one of the things holding back development of Hero ROMS is that HTC haven't released the kernel for the Hero.
1) What exactly IS the kernel in the greater scheme of things?
2) When are HTC likely to release it?
3) When it is released, what new things will it allow developers to do?
4) Anything else relevant to it worth knowing?
TIA

Look at these:
1. The kernel is the Operating System for the phone, it runs everything.
2. That is the magic question...
3. It'll allow more development in terms of mods. we'll be able to change alot more and get more out of the phones.
I'm sure others will have more detailed explanations.

Regarding question 2:
I've gotten response from HTC support the other day that the release is planned but no sure date could be given.
Date: 5th of October
My question:
Hello there, I realize that this might not be the normal kind of request you guys get, but here goes. This is probably not your average request and might require escalation. I was wondering when the source code for the Hero kernel was gonna be available at developer.htc.com?
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Answer:
Hello
This is quite a normal question we get here at HTC. The source code is something that will becoming soon. We have had contact with those far higher than my self or are planning on adding the source code as soon as possible. I have not been given a time scale but bases on the code for the two other handsets i should expect it in the next couple of weeks.
Hope this helps.
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So, educated guess would be around the release of the Hero in the US.

Some if I have this right -
The kernel is the basic underlying OS of the phone, and a ROM sits on top of this end gives us the end user experience ( and Sense UI is within the ROM ).
Am I right in thinking the kernel is linux based?
And a big magic question - when the kernel is released, will people be able to modify it and get the bluetooth working properly?
Sorry if it's a bit basic - but interesting to me....

The Kernel is not the OS (As most people understand an OS to be) (OS meaning Operating System)
It's at the core of the OS but is not the OS. You can keep the same build of an OS but update the kernel and vica versa. It is (put simply) what converts the hardware calls from the OS into something the hardware understands.
So (using current issues as explanation) The OS tries to load the GPS and the kernel isn't configured with the right settings the GPS won't load. Similarly if you try and use the trackball and it's not setup in the kernel then it won't do anything.
The OS will still work fine with other things but until the kernel has the right settings put into it it just won't see the parts of the phone it's not set up to.
Here is a technical description of a Kernel.
http://www.linfo.org/kernel.html
I'm sure I've just made it as clear as dishwater but if not I hope it's helped.

J-Zeus said:
Some if I have this right -
The kernel is the basic underlying OS of the phone, and a ROM sits on top of this end gives us the end user experience ( and Sense UI is within the ROM ).
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Not exactly. To add to what akirainblack has said already...ROM stands for Read Only Memory. In this context it is a bit different as it is the complete package that makes up the Kernel, the OS and anything that is pre-installed to the phone. When you run the RUU (Rom Update Utilitiy) on your PC is completely refreshes the system software in your phone - Kernel, OS and any pre-installed apps - just as if you had bought it from the shop like that.
J-Zeus said:
Am I right in thinking the kernel is linux based?
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Yes.

Hmmm...
simple question... when the kernel is available... would we be able to get a white taskbar on the Hero?
//Nik

When the kernel source is available, we should be able to rebuild Android completely from the source code repositories and do practically whatever you want.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
When the kernel source is available, we should be able to rebuild Android completely from the source code repositories and do practically whatever you want.
Regards,
Dave
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Including getting Bluetooth working?

J-Zeus said:
Including getting Bluetooth working?
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In theory, yes. In practice, the situation is a little more complicated, but at the very least I'd imagine it would be possible to get BlueX, or something like it, working on rooted Heros fairly quickly.
Regards,
Dave

Given that this is a Linux kernel, aren't HTC required by the GPL to make the source available to all Hero owners?

This is covering the same ground, but is another way to look at things regarding the kernel and the OS. The kernel abstracts the specifics of the hardware from the Android system. For example, when the Android system requests that the bluetooth hardware be enabled, the kernel can translate that request so that it works with the particular hardware of the phone - as the bluetooth hardware of the Magic may be different from the bluetooth hardware of the Hero. So the kernel, is an interface that translates and Android call to the specific hardware level controls necessary. The kernel sits between the hardware and the Android system.
It also means that releasing the kernel will not allow us to make changes to the Hero Android user interfaces. If we want to change colours, icons and so on in the Hero ROM, we would need the source code for their "tweaked" Android and maybe to some degree their TouchFlo software. I doubt they would give that away. It would allows us however, to tweak the kernel, or transplant the driver code for specific hardware pieces in the Hero, to a newer version kernel.

I understand that the release of the hero kernel, could help me with my cause (getting 1.5/1.6 'clean' android on my hero without any htc apps/front ends).
Somebody suggested contacting HTC and asking for it to be released.
I have a few questions regarding that:
1) Has this happened before? That HTC released an android kernel?
2) Did this happen after the request?
3) Who should we contact to get it? (which HTC division)
4) Is there a possibility that they don't want to release it, because it would allow people to copy parts of the proprietary interface?

E2K said:
1) Has this happened before? That HTC released an android kernel?
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Take a look at http://developer.htc.com/
The Dream and Magic sources are available.
E2K said:
4) Is there a possibility that they don't want to release it, because it would allow people to copy parts of the proprietary interface?
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The HTC Sense UI won't be included in the kernel source.
They dont have to release the source of them.
New question
Is it possible to create a new donut kernel (2.6.29) with the changes they made to the 1.5 kernel (2.6.27)?
Looks like they send you the hole kernel, not just some patches and new drivers...

mopodo said:
Take a look at http://developer.htc.com/
The Dream and Magic sources are available.
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So this means that we could compile or 'cook' a working vanilla android 1.5 for the HTC hero, with everything working fully?

HTC HAS to release the kernel source as required under the GPL license that the kernel was released under. It is indeed a linux kernel and it contains the necessary parts to work the hardware along with extra drivers and modules (stupid monolithic kernels).
Here's what I don't get (and hopefully somebody will clarify this for me). Why hasn't anybody tried building android with the current kernel available? Android has the ability to be built around a pre-compiled kernel (it does this if you do a straight make right after repo sync with the pre-compiled dream kernel). You'd only need to re-build the wlan.ko module for the new kernel and the gps module would be compiled against the specified kernel, so it should work.
If I had Hero, I'd test it (if you want to trade your Hero for my G1, hit me up ), but there's no reason it shouldn't work.
Up to now, I've only seen ports, and those are hard to make work because of the pre-compiled files, so that leads to loads of file-swapping and finger-crossing, but an AOSP make should still work. Anybody wanna try it (or post me a hero kernel and I'll compile you a stock donut build to test).

jubeh said:
HTC HAS to release the kernel source as required under the GPL license that the kernel was released under. It is indeed a linux kernel and it contains the necessary parts to work the hardware along with extra drivers and modules (stupid monolithic kernels).
Here's what I don't get (and hopefully somebody will clarify this for me). Why hasn't anybody tried building android with the current kernel available? Android has the ability to be built around a pre-compiled kernel (it does this if you do a straight make right after repo sync with the pre-compiled dream kernel). You'd only need to re-build the wlan.ko module for the new kernel and the gps module would be compiled against the specified kernel, so it should work.
If I had Hero, I'd test it (if you want to trade your Hero for my G1, hit me up ), but there's no reason it shouldn't work.
Up to now, I've only seen ports, and those are hard to make work because of the pre-compiled files, so that leads to loads of file-swapping and finger-crossing, but an AOSP make should still work. Anybody wanna try it (or post me a hero kernel and I'll compile you a stock donut build to test).
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Hi, thank you for this information. You make it sound like it's possible
I tried searching for the Hero Kernel, but I could only find this:
http://developer.htc.com/
The hero is not listed (maybe it shares a lot with the magic kernel?).
edit: this post dating from september 10 stated that HTC would "release the kernel source soon".
This was more than a month ago though..
edit2: calling HTC Netherlands right now..
edit3: after explainig the need for the kernel, I've been on hold for 10 minutes now..
edit4: more than 18 minutes now
edit5: after 26 minutes I hang up

Well I have a Hero running Modaco 2.2. I could post this kernel (where?) Or it surely could be extracted from one of the ROMs available on this very site

SquiffSquiff said:
Well I have a Hero running Modaco 2.2. I could post this kernel (where?) Or it surely could be extracted from one of the ROMs available on this very site
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I could be wrong, but I believe there is a difference between the 'kernel', and the 'kernel source'. The second one is needed when you want to compile the kernel.

Speaking as one who has compiled kernels in the past there are three components required here:
The kernel source- this is typically available from http://kernel.org/ If HTC have made any changes to the source of the kernel itself then these should be apparent in their distribution of the kernel source
The relevant configuration file '.config' which should accompany their distribution of the kernel source and permit you to compile any other kernel as a drop in replacement.
Source code and makefiles for any custom kernel modules ('drivers' in windows terminology) In Linux these have to be compiled together with the kernel.
To use a cookery analogy:
The kernel source is the raw ingredients. It can be set up for anything from a supercomputer to a DVD player depending on how you use it. The kernel config is the method which will allow you to bake the type of cake you intend. The modules sources are any of HTC’s own custom ingredients required for everything to work. THe kernel is the finished cake which you eat.

[Q] Kernel , mode , script, radio

Hello! What is kernel, mode, script, radio?

Ferrumlan said:
Hello! What is kernel, mode, script, radio?
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The kernel is the core of the OS that allows software code to interface with hardware.
Don't know what you're talking about as far as "mode".
A script is something written in Linux command line to accomplish a VAST number of things. It can alter kernel settings (as I use one for that), or it can run various operations automatically and generate results... You can damn near program with a script.
The radio is the hardware that transmits and receives signals from other peripherals or a base station. In Android devices, the term "radio" typically refers to the firmware programmed into the hardware which allows the ROM to address the radio hardware.

loonatik78 said:
The kernel is the core of the OS that allows software code to interface with hardware.
Don't know what you're talking about as far as "mode".
A script is something written in Linux command line to accomplish a VAST number of things. It can alter kernel settings (as I use one for that), or it can run various operations automatically and generate results... You can damn near program with a script.
The radio is the hardware that transmits and receives signals from other peripherals or a base station. In Android devices, the term "radio" typically refers to the firmware programmed into the hardware which allows the ROM to address the radio hardware.
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sorry not mode))) mod

MOD is a modification. Could be as simple as a different battery indicator for your status bar or a completely revamped UI. Some MODs add new functionality, like a 4-in-1 boot menu.
daj

thanks please give me link to great mods ?

Ferrumlan said:
thanks please give me link to great mods ?
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That would be impossible. There's hundreds if not thousands to do all manner of things to your phone and many of them are ROM-specific.

one of the scripts that is friendly with all android phone is the v6 supercharger. its a memory mod that has been shown to increase phone performance. its working wonders on gingersense 3.5

how to install them all on PHONE?

Ferrumlan said:
how to install them all on PHONE?
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Just do a search for "V6 supercharger" on XDA. Read the OP carefully. It's kind of an odd install, but it does tend to work. I believe he's optimized it for a deadline IO scheduler so it helps if your kernel supports that.

The Android Wikipedia! What does **** mean?

Well, this thread is actually originally from Wildfire S forum. I found it useful, so I posted it here with a little bit of extras to help you guys to understand what does **** mean.
Dev - See developer.
Developer - A man or woman who has created (developed) software. Eg, Acro68
ROM - 1. A modified version of the Android operating system operating system. 2. Read Only Memory, a place where information is stored and can not be destroyed, modified or written to.
AOSP - "Android open source project" a project by Google Inc. to give android to developers and manufactures for free (see open-source)
Open-source - (not to be confussed with free) A peice of software that is free to edit, use, distribute and share with no charge.
CM - See cyanogenmod
Cyanogenmod - A free open-source project based on the AOSP. It is a modded (see modded) version of the Android firmware
Firmware - see ROM (1)
Stock - An unchanged version of something. Example: I just flashed stock Samsung firmware.
OTA - "Over the air" a term used to indicate software that was sent to phones directly through the internet to their phones.
FOTA - "Firmware over the air" this normally refers to ROM's but can refer to radio firmware (see OTA)
Firmware - a piece of software to make hardware function correctly. This can refer to Radio Firmware, but is normally used as another name for ROM (1)
Radio - (not to be confused with Radio Firmware) A piece of hardware that allows communication. There are 3 main radios in your phone. Bluetooth, WiFi and GSM/CDMA.
Radio Firmware - (see firmware) a type of software that allows correct communication with the radio and the operating system. A newer firmware would normally improve battery life and call quality. The radio firmware only applies to the CDMA/GSM radio.
CDMA/GSM - A type of network communication between phones and carriers. GSM phones normally are included with SIM Cards that authorize them onto the network. CDMA have this authorization built in and do not need a sim card.
Kernel - An important part of all operating systems that handles the CPU and other vital components. A modded kernel may be used for overclocking.
Overclock - (not to be confused with underclock) to exced the default maximum CPU speed. This could make a phone more powerful but may cause damage. Although no damaged has been reported so far it could still drain battery life.
Underclock - to change your phones maximum frequency to LOWER than the default to attempt to extend the phones lifespan and battery.
Mod - A modification to a part of the phones software. It is also POSSIBLE to mod the phones hardware but is not recommended.
Modding - To perform a mod
Modded - to have included mods
Modification - see mod
Governor - a system embedded into the kernel to automatically change the current working CPU frequency depending on the workload. It would only go up to what it is overclocked (or underclocked) to, this is called the maximum frequency. It would not drop bellow the (just as eaisly configurable) minimum frequency.
Library's/Libs - a set of instructions for applications to use to function. A functioning camera lib would allow the camera to be used.
Logcat - A logging system built into the ADB
ADB - "Android Debug Bridge" a system that can be accessed using a computer where you can manage the device from. You need the Android SDK to use it.
SDK - "Software Development Kit" a set of tools used for software development.
WIP - "Work In Progress"
JDK - "Java Development Kit" an SDK for the java platform. It is needed to run the Android SDK.
JRE - "Java Runtime Environment" a collection of binarys and files to allow java software to execute.
Execute - To "run" or "start" a binary
Binarys - (sometimes called bin's) a group of executable files.
RAM - Could be one of three meanings: 1. Memory for the CPU to process processes. 2. Random Access Memory, a place where information can be used, executed from, modified, or deleted. 3. A type of sheep.
SD - Short term for MicroSD
GB - Could mean one of two things. 1. Gingerbread or 2. Great Britain
Gingerbread - Android 2.3
Froyo - Android 2.2
Honeycomb - Android 3.x. it was never released or ported to the Galaxy W because it was built for tablets.
Ice cream sandwich/ICS - Android 4.0. The latest version of Android.
CM9 - Cyanogenmod 9. A modified version of ICS. (see cm)
Kies - Update utilities, used to backup and update firmware.
Odin - A tool for updating firmware.
Custom recovery - An unofficial version of the recovery to install unoffical ROMs.
AFAIK - "As far as I know"n Android application
KANG - The process of creating a code based of someone else's code.
Zipalligned - This is something that makes a ROM faster. If you can improve this please contact me!
Deodexed - Where ODEX files are moved into the actual applications
APK - "Android Package" an Android application, Eg XDAFree.apk
If Any One More Info Please Post Hare.............

manoranjan2050 said:
Well, this thread is actually originally from Wildfire S forum. I found it useful, so I posted it here with a little bit of extras to help you guys to understand what does **** mean.
Dev - See developer.
Developer - A man or woman who has created (developed) software. Eg, Acro68
ROM - 1. A modified version of the Android operating system operating system. 2. Read Only Memory, a place where information is stored and can not be destroyed, modified or written to.
AOSP - "Android open source project" a project by Google Inc. to give android to developers and manufactures for free (see open-source)
Open-source - (not to be confussed with free) A peice of software that is free to edit, use, distribute and share with no charge.
CM - See cyanogenmod
Cyanogenmod - A free open-source project based on the AOSP. It is a modded (see modded) version of the Android firmware
Firmware - see ROM (1)
Stock - An unchanged version of something. Example: I just flashed stock Samsung firmware.
OTA - "Over the air" a term used to indicate software that was sent to phones directly through the internet to their phones.
FOTA - "Firmware over the air" this normally refers to ROM's but can refer to radio firmware (see OTA)
Firmware - a piece of software to make hardware function correctly. This can refer to Radio Firmware, but is normally used as another name for ROM (1)
Radio - (not to be confused with Radio Firmware) A piece of hardware that allows communication. There are 3 main radios in your phone. Bluetooth, WiFi and GSM/CDMA.
Radio Firmware - (see firmware) a type of software that allows correct communication with the radio and the operating system. A newer firmware would normally improve battery life and call quality. The radio firmware only applies to the CDMA/GSM radio.
CDMA/GSM - A type of network communication between phones and carriers. GSM phones normally are included with SIM Cards that authorize them onto the network. CDMA have this authorization built in and do not need a sim card.
Kernel - An important part of all operating systems that handles the CPU and other vital components. A modded kernel may be used for overclocking.
Overclock - (not to be confused with underclock) to exced the default maximum CPU speed. This could make a phone more powerful but may cause damage. Although no damaged has been reported so far it could still drain battery life.
Underclock - to change your phones maximum frequency to LOWER than the default to attempt to extend the phones lifespan and battery.
Mod - A modification to a part of the phones software. It is also POSSIBLE to mod the phones hardware but is not recommended.
Modding - To perform a mod
Modded - to have included mods
Modification - see mod
Governor - a system embedded into the kernel to automatically change the current working CPU frequency depending on the workload. It would only go up to what it is overclocked (or underclocked) to, this is called the maximum frequency. It would not drop bellow the (just as eaisly configurable) minimum frequency.
Library's/Libs - a set of instructions for applications to use to function. A functioning camera lib would allow the camera to be used.
Logcat - A logging system built into the ADB
ADB - "Android Debug Bridge" a system that can be accessed using a computer where you can manage the device from. You need the Android SDK to use it.
SDK - "Software Development Kit" a set of tools used for software development.
WIP - "Work In Progress"
JDK - "Java Development Kit" an SDK for the java platform. It is needed to run the Android SDK.
JRE - "Java Runtime Environment" a collection of binarys and files to allow java software to execute.
Execute - To "run" or "start" a binary
Binarys - (sometimes called bin's) a group of executable files.
RAM - Could be one of three meanings: 1. Memory for the CPU to process processes. 2. Random Access Memory, a place where information can be used, executed from, modified, or deleted. 3. A type of sheep.
SD - Short term for MicroSD
GB - Could mean one of two things. 1. Gingerbread or 2. Great Britain
Gingerbread - Android 2.3
Froyo - Android 2.2
Honeycomb - Android 3.x. it was never released or ported to the Galaxy W because it was built for tablets.
Ice cream sandwich/ICS - Android 4.0. The latest version of Android.
CM9 - Cyanogenmod 9. A modified version of ICS. (see cm)
Kies - Update utilities, used to backup and update firmware.
Odin - A tool for updating firmware.
Custom recovery - An unofficial version of the recovery to install unoffical ROMs.
AFAIK - "As far as I know"n Android application
KANG - The process of creating a code based of someone else's code.
Zipalligned - This is something that makes a ROM faster. If you can improve this please contact me!
Deodexed - Where ODEX files are moved into the actual applications
APK - "Android Package" an Android application, Eg XDAFree.apk
If Any One More Info Please Post Hare.............
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good
fine......
but u cant say it wikipedia
lol......

manoranjan2050 said:
Well, this thread is actually originally from Wildfire S forum. I found it useful, so I posted it here with a little bit of extras to help you guys to understand what does **** mean.
Dev - See developer.
Developer - A man or woman who has created (developed) software. Eg, Acro68
ROM - 1. A modified version of the Android operating system operating system. 2. Read Only Memory, a place where information is stored and can not be destroyed, modified or written to.
AOSP - "Android open source project" a project by Google Inc. to give android to developers and manufactures for free (see open-source)
Open-source - (not to be confussed with free) A peice of software that is free to edit, use, distribute and share with no charge.
CM - See cyanogenmod
Cyanogenmod - A free open-source project based on the AOSP. It is a modded (see modded) version of the Android firmware
Firmware - see ROM (1)
Stock - An unchanged version of something. Example: I just flashed stock Samsung firmware.
OTA - "Over the air" a term used to indicate software that was sent to phones directly through the internet to their phones.
FOTA - "Firmware over the air" this normally refers to ROM's but can refer to radio firmware (see OTA)
Firmware - a piece of software to make hardware function correctly. This can refer to Radio Firmware, but is normally used as another name for ROM (1)
Radio - (not to be confused with Radio Firmware) A piece of hardware that allows communication. There are 3 main radios in your phone. Bluetooth, WiFi and GSM/CDMA.
Radio Firmware - (see firmware) a type of software that allows correct communication with the radio and the operating system. A newer firmware would normally improve battery life and call quality. The radio firmware only applies to the CDMA/GSM radio.
CDMA/GSM - A type of network communication between phones and carriers. GSM phones normally are included with SIM Cards that authorize them onto the network. CDMA have this authorization built in and do not need a sim card.
Kernel - An important part of all operating systems that handles the CPU and other vital components. A modded kernel may be used for overclocking.
Overclock - (not to be confused with underclock) to exced the default maximum CPU speed. This could make a phone more powerful but may cause damage. Although no damaged has been reported so far it could still drain battery life.
Underclock - to change your phones maximum frequency to LOWER than the default to attempt to extend the phones lifespan and battery.
Mod - A modification to a part of the phones software. It is also POSSIBLE to mod the phones hardware but is not recommended.
Modding - To perform a mod
Modded - to have included mods
Modification - see mod
Governor - a system embedded into the kernel to automatically change the current working CPU frequency depending on the workload. It would only go up to what it is overclocked (or underclocked) to, this is called the maximum frequency. It would not drop bellow the (just as eaisly configurable) minimum frequency.
Library's/Libs - a set of instructions for applications to use to function. A functioning camera lib would allow the camera to be used.
Logcat - A logging system built into the ADB
ADB - "Android Debug Bridge" a system that can be accessed using a computer where you can manage the device from. You need the Android SDK to use it.
SDK - "Software Development Kit" a set of tools used for software development.
WIP - "Work In Progress"
JDK - "Java Development Kit" an SDK for the java platform. It is needed to run the Android SDK.
JRE - "Java Runtime Environment" a collection of binarys and files to allow java software to execute.
Execute - To "run" or "start" a binary
Binarys - (sometimes called bin's) a group of executable files.
RAM - Could be one of three meanings: 1. Memory for the CPU to process processes. 2. Random Access Memory, a place where information can be used, executed from, modified, or deleted. 3. A type of sheep.
SD - Short term for MicroSD
GB - Could mean one of two things. 1. Gingerbread or 2. Great Britain
Gingerbread - Android 2.3
Froyo - Android 2.2
Honeycomb - Android 3.x. it was never released or ported to the Galaxy W because it was built for tablets.
Ice cream sandwich/ICS - Android 4.0. The latest version of Android.
CM9 - Cyanogenmod 9. A modified version of ICS. (see cm)
Kies - Update utilities, used to backup and update firmware.
Odin - A tool for updating firmware.
Custom recovery - An unofficial version of the recovery to install unoffical ROMs.
AFAIK - "As far as I know"n Android application
KANG - The process of creating a code based of someone else's code.
Zipalligned - This is something that makes a ROM faster. If you can improve this please contact me!
Deodexed - Where ODEX files are moved into the actual applications
APK - "Android Package" an Android application, Eg XDAFree.apk
If Any One More Info Please Post Hare.............
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You can call it AndroPedia. BTW, great work!
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ANDROPEDIA
...... hmmmm sounds good

[RECOVERY] TeamWin Touch Recovery v2.2.2.0 for the HTC Wildfire S

Presenting the latest development version of the TeamWin Recovery Project's touch recovery for the HTC Wildfire S. TeamWin Touch Recovery now has official builds available through TeamWin and GooManager for the Marvel. With any luck MarvelC support will soon follow. Please visit the TWRP and TeamWin pages for more information.
Compiled for and tested on the original GSM Marvel. Always awaiting more testing from CDMA Marvel users. This software is provided without support or warranty: use it at your own risk.
Known Issues:
Fails on a handful of new GSM Marvel devices with updated/incompatible hardware, locking at the initial HTC splash screen.
Change Log:
XX:XX XX/8/2012 - Initial release of TWRP v2.2.2.0: Upstream code changes resolve the issues with formatting SD-EXT and partitioning the SD-Card. Includes the initial release of a revised 320x480 default theme with cleaner action pages, slightly larger buttons and more spacious checklists. First stable, full-featured and issue free release of TWRP for the HTC Wildfire S. Previous buggy versions have been removed from the revision history and can no longer be downloaded.
17:35 19/08/2012 PDT - Second release of TWRP v2.2.1.5: Issues with offmode charging resolved thanks to kalaker.
23:32 17/08/2012 PDT - Initial release of TWRP v2.2.1.5: Upstream code includes changes that resolve issues with the system rebooting during backup operations.
03:00 06/08/2012 PDT - Initial release of TWRP v2.2.1.4: Upstream code includes a handful of nice little bug fixes including a resolution for the mount issues.
23:05 05/08/2012 PDT - Minor aesthetic tweaks to the new theme.
02:29 05/08/2012 PDT - Third release of TWRP v2.2.1: Includes a carefully scaled v2.2 theme enabling the latest release's advanced features.
22:59 28/07/2012 PDT - Second release of TWRP v2.2.1: Corrected a glitch in my build environment that could have lead to issues and then forked it for dedicated platform builds. First dedicated MarvelC build.
23:58 27/07/2012 PDT - Initial release of TWRP v2.2.1: Compiled from the most recent code provided by: TWRP, Cryptomilk and the CyanogenMod ICS-Release branch.
22:55 09/07/2012 PDT - Maintenance release of TWRP v2.1.8: Reconfigured and shrank the kernel in order to utilize a less aggressive form of compression than LZMA. Switched from the CyanogenMod ICS branch to ICS-Release.
12:35 09/07/2012 PDT - Initial release of TWRP v2.1.8: Built using the ICS branchs of the CyanogenMod and Cryptomilk Marvel sources. Oversized image required LZMA compression.
To Do:
Build flashable .ZIP
Download Links:
TWRP for GSM HTC Wildfire S (Marvel) v2.2.2.0 (Preview Release) - Image - Mirror
MD5: 34f201ec8c8b0f0d2eae64c88ac3d888
TWRP for CDMA HTC Wildfire S (MarvelC) v2.2.2.0 (Preview Release) - Image - Mirror
MD5: 7c4d137a37098900ff3b2a9412ee8994

This is not the place for support.
I apologize in advance for what may seem abusive but, as it has been laid down here in the RULES it stands to reason that I'm decently covered.
THIS IS NOT THE PLACE FOR YOUR QUESTIONS! THIS IS!
In my infinite generosity I've created a place where users can get answers to frequently asked questions and seek support from one another. As an added bonus it will save you from my wrath. Please limit all discussion in this thread to development issues. I've started you off with some installation instructions as that was the first issue. I will update and check in as necessary. Enjoy!

You need to have the HTC drivers installed.
Then in cmd type:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img.
Place the img file in the same folder as the adb files, so you won't have to specify a path.
Good luck,
Awesome work btw. :laugh:

WoefulDerelict said:
I apologize in advance for what may seem abusive but, as it has been laid down here in the RULES and I CLEARLY stated there would be ABSOLUTELY NO SUPPORT in my original post, it stands to reason that I'm decently covered.
THIS IS NOT THE PLACE FOR YOUR QUESTIONS! Ignorance and stupidity will not be tolerated.
In my infinite generosity I've created a place where users can get answers to frequently asked questions and seek support from one another. As an added bonus it will save you from my wrath. I've started you off with some installation instructions as that was the first issue. Enjoy!
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If you're not going to support this, then this dosent belong in the Dev section... it can go in the General section or Apps section. Only Supported work belongs in the Dev section.

He means he wont be answering any questions in this thread.............he created another thread for discussion in the general section

Semantics...
Red5 said:
If you're not going to support this, then this dosent belong in the Dev section... it can go in the General section or Apps section. Only Supported work belongs in the Dev section.
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I believe the issue here is entirely one of semantics. In my lexicon support encompasses the magical realm of end-user hand holding. In no way do I feel it is necessary or reasonable to expect a user manual with warm and fuzzy walk-troughs of every possible thing you could want to do and some friendly advice with a hug every time the user has a problem with their FREE software. I certainly don't plan to offer any of the above.
I do; however, plan on maintaining my work. I'm quite interested in information that would allow me to improve the image or resolve a reproducible issue. I also have no qualms discussing the work with other developers, providing updates as the code base evolves, accepting proper issue reports or feature suggestions. I'd simply prefer to avoid getting bogged down by questions that could easily be answered by visiting the project's home page or querying Google. I find it quite counter productive to wade through user prattle when I'm trying to fix an issue or collaborate with another developer.

Hello.
Is this recovery version work on Marvel with black CWM Recovery effect (new graphics hardware) ??

I'm not sure what you're asking.
marchelius said:
Hello.
Is this recovery version work on Marvel with black CWM Recovery effect (new graphics hardware) ??
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This should be compatible with any HTC Marvel based Wildfire S. I believe they are all based on the same SOC. The kernel should have support for all MSM7227 based graphics hardware.

WoefulDerelict said:
This should be compatible with any HTC Marvel based Wildfire S...
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Should be, but it isn't. After flash, my phone stuck on white screen with green HTC logo after attempt to enter in recovery...

Works perfectly on my phone. Mine is the A510e.

The joys of platform fragmentation.
marchelius said:
Should be, but it isn't. After flash, my phone stuck on white screen with green HTC logo after attempt to enter in recovery...
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SomeDudeOnTheNet said:
Works perfectly on my phone. Mine is the A510e.
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I suppose the plus side is that I have some confirmation that the software works on other A501e devices. If you're going to report something as not working could you at least go to the trouble of including your device's identifying information? A510b/e, SPL and Radio versions would be a great start.

WoefulDerelict said:
I suppose the plus side is that I have some confirmation that the software works on other A501e devices. If you're going to report something as not working could you at least go to the trouble of including your device's identifying information? A510b/e, SPL and Radio versions would be a great start.
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OK.
HTC A510e
Android 2.3.5
EQDKP v4.7
Kernel 2.6.35.10-ga66971c
47.23e.35.3038H_7.57.39.10M
S-ON, unlocked via HTCDev

Main branch broken with CM9 on Marvel since updating to 2.2 code.
TWRP updated their main branch to v2.2 today. While I was hoping for the resolution of current issues their changes break my build with CM9. I'm stepping through the changes presently to see if I reason out what changed between 2.2 and 2.1.8 to cause the issue and correct the it. Stay tuned for more updates.

More please...
marchelius said:
OK.
HTC A510e
Android 2.3.5
EQDKP v4.7
Kernel 2.6.35.10-ga66971c
47.23e.35.3038H_7.57.39.10M
S-ON, unlocked via HTCDev
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Could I get the HBOOT, MICROP and Radio version from your SPL? Hold the volume rocker and power button down while turning on the device to access the bootloader for that information.
IF these Frankenstein devices exist I'm going to need a profile of the revised hardware in order to correct the issue along with some proud owners to test fixes as I don't have access to one. The Marvel I was given is based off the original hardware profile and TWRP2.1.8 works fine when built with CM9 and the cryptomilk.org MSM7227 kernel. I'll do what I can to fix it but, I'm currently trying to resolve build issues with the new 2.2 release. I'm hoping this new code base along with a revised kernel will resolve many of the current issues.

It's ALIVE!
The problem is it's behaving like I brought it to life with a couple bolts of lightning. To say that it has issues would be overly kind but, it boots and I can navigate around. I'm currently trying to track down all the shorts making 2.2 twitch. Stay tuned.

Fresh revision.
Finally managed a clean build from the latest source. I'd love for some brave MarvelC users to give it a test before building a flashable .ZIP for the general public.

WoefulDerelict said:
Finally managed a clean build from the latest source. I'd love for some brave MarvelC users to give it a test before building a flashable .ZIP for the general public.
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Thanks but theres a few issues
1. Theme isn't updated
2. On-screen keyboard wont work due to current theme
3 l. Swipe to start backups/restoring wont work due the theme.
More or less this is just like the previous twrp until themes are resized etc
Sent from my Wildfire S A510e using Tapatalk 2

Yea, I knew that.
eoghan2t7 said:
Thanks but theres a few issues
1. Theme isn't updated
2. On-screen keyboard wont work due to current theme
3 l. Swipe to start backups/restoring wont work due the theme.
More or less this is just like the previous twrp until themes are resized etc
Sent from my Wildfire S A510e using Tapatalk 2
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This was already noted in the original post as the last entry under the known issues header. I maintain this for a reason. Thankfully the themes are XML based and updating it shouldn't be ridiculously difficult. Once I've gotten the issue list stable and nailed down where they are all rooted I'll see what I can do to tackle this and the formatting errors as they seem to be the largest TWRP specific issues I could correct. I wager the XML theme business will be relatively quick and painless.

WoefulDerelict said:
This was already noted in the original post as the last entry under the known issues header. I maintain this for a reason. Thankfully the themes are XML based and updating it shouldn't be ridiculously difficult. Once I've gotten the issue list stable and nailed down where they are all rooted I'll see what I can do to tackle this and the formatting errors as they seem to be the largest TWRP specific issues I could correct. I wager the XML theme business will be relatively quick and painless.
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Yeah the themes are XML based but the image editing will be the worst part
Sent from my Wildfire S A510e using Tapatalk 2

eoghan2t7 said:
Yeah the themes are XML based but the image editing will be the worst part
Sent from my Wildfire S A510e using Tapatalk 2
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I'm trying to imagine that being easy. I'm not totally inept in Adobe or AutoCad products so I'm sure I can toss together something in a week or so. Depends on how much the real job needs my time and brain meats.

[ROM][UNOFFICIAL][AROMA] Android Revolution HD 5.3 [UPDATE]

So this here is a ROM i ported over from the Incredible S
This rom belongs to the Android Revolution team.
So this rom is actually PORTED using our Leaked ICS rom so any bugs are pertained from that ROM.
Currently you cannot flash a custom sense kernel as there are some ramdisk modifications that must be made if you have any info on what must be done PLEASE say so in the comments so our developers can get a fix out soon.
As far as i know everything is working on this rom EXCEPT the GPS which needs some kernel modifications made.
wireless tethering confirmed working
This is the info that was posted on the rom thread of the Inc S:
Features
Removed software (CPU) rendering - full Adreno205 (GPU) rendering
Fully optimized and tweaked
ROOT (su + SuperSu Permissions - Thanks to koush)
Unsecured boot.img
Newest BusyBox
RAM optimizations
System signatures check enabled for system security and safety
Improved Adreno205 configuration for better quality and performance!
Improved virtual memory management
Speed optimizations
Enabled GPU UI rendering
SD Card speed tweak
Data, cache and system partitions mounting tweaks
Bloatware applications removed
All /system applications updated to latest available
All /data applications updated to latest available
Improved camera performance
Improved CPU governors performance
Most optimal system scheduler
Disabled kernel debugging for better performance
ZRAM ready!
Advanced Power Menu and CRT Animation as extra add-ons
Zipaligned (Improved RAM management)
Zipalign on boot (for user applications on data partition)
Fully de-odexed
init.d scripts (BusyBox run-parts) support
Auto init.d permissions set on boot
sysro/sysrw commands support
Excellent battery life!
Improved EXT4 performance
You can replace HTC boot animation with any custom one
SD card EXT4 partition support
OpenVPN support
4EXT Recovery (Thanks to madmaxx82)
Most up-to-date system files permissions
Adobe Flash Player support
Support almost 24h a day
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Android 4.0.4 (Ice Cream Sandwich) - latest leak HTC 7.01.605.01
This is improved version of stock ROM - no visual changes!
Very fast, clean & stable!
Full HTC Sense 3.6 Interface
Multi-language (WWE)
For HTC Incredible 2
Thanks to HTC for the base firmware
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Credits:
---- Android Revolution HD Team: ----
- mike1986 (ROM Creator & Team Founder)
- jkoljo (Beta-tester)
- KID_1194 (Graphic Design)
- Lizard (Files Hosting)
- MarcoHD (Files Hosting)
- Mavy170 (Files Hosting)
- madmaxx82 (4EXT Recovery Developer)
- Macrodroid (permission to port)​
DOWNLOAD
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2dhYiuyyj_9NEhQbjFBQnNFeDg/edit?usp=sharing
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Testing Room:
CDMA Version of this ROM please someone with Verizon try this out and tell me if it works. Thank you
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2dhYiuyyj_9YVFZbE5XZzk1TjQ/edit?usp=sharing
We have found a temporary fix for installing Custom Kernels on this ROM:
i made a backup using 4ext of viper with my kernel , flashed leaked ICS ROM , then in recovery under advanced recovery i restored the boot from my viper backup , rebooted , then flashed my full kernel .zip lol , I'm having trouble with WiFi working properly but its again progress
Edit it works , fully
Make sure you wipe cache and dalvik before installing my kernel zip after you restore the boot
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Please try it out i HIGHLY recommended

Yay..first one! I will hopefully have a kernel for you to include soon.

Awesome. Looking forward to trying this.
Sent from my Incredible 2 using xda app-developers app

Is there some easy way to get into recovery in the rom, so we don't have to pull the battery all the time
for the leaked rom there's no recovery in the power menu and reboot recovery in terminal doesn't work

michael3770 said:
Is there some easy way to get into recovery in the rom, so we don't have to pull the battery all the time
for the leaked rom there's no recovery in the power menu and reboot recovery in terminal doesn't work
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Try Rom manager unless you have 4ext and 4ext recovery control.
Sent from my BrYCS'd Viperdinc.

michael3770 said:
Is there some easy way to get into recovery in the rom, so we don't have to pull the battery all the time
for the leaked rom there's no recovery in the power menu and reboot recovery in terminal doesn't work
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You can use titanium, too.
Sent from my PAC-nanimous, e-coli resistant Dinc2

MoonMaster345 said:
So this here is a ROM i ported over from the Incredible S
This rom belongs to the Android Revolution team.
So this rom is actually based on our Leaked ICS rom so any bugs are pertained from that ROM.
Currently you cannot flash a custom sense kernel as there are some ramdisk modifications that must be made if you have any info on what must be done PLEASE say so in the comments so our developers can get a fix out soon.
As far as i know everything is working on this rom EXCEPT the GPS which needs some kernel modifications made.
wireless tethering confirmed working
This is the info that was posted on the rom thread of the Inc S:
Features
Credits:
---- Android Revolution HD Team: ----
- mike1986 (ROM Creator & Team Founder)
- jkoljo (Beta-tester)
- KID_1194 (Graphic Design)
- Lizard (Files Hosting)
- MarcoHD (Files Hosting)
- Mavy170 (Files Hosting)
- madmaxx82 (4EXT Recovery Developer)
- Macrodroid (permission to port)​
DOWNLOAD
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I've got the apm and one of the themes ported for this from the inc s forums, I'll post them tomorrow...
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium

Hey thanks man, you're really helpful

This is perfect timing for the retirement of my DInc2. While I've moved on, it's got a lot of life left and I want to give it to my grandson. I was looking for a fresh, clean ROM to load after a SuperWipe and this one seems perfect.
How "broken" is the GPS? Is it completely unusable, or just finicky?
Thanks!
- Dave

ViperGeek said:
This is perfect timing for the retirement of my DInc2. While I've moved on, it's got a lot of life left and I want to give it to my grandson. I was looking for a fresh, clean ROM to load after a SuperWipe and this one seems perfect.
How "broken" is the GPS? Is it completely unusable, or just finicky?
Thanks!
- Dave
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Gps is completely disconnected... Other than that, it's a great rom, very fast and smooth...
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium

I tried this Rom and it wouldnt connect to Verizon even after I tried to reactivate it. Any ideas
Sent from my HTC Droid Incredible 2 using Tapatalk 2

Oh thanks for mentioning it, Since this is a port from the Inc S which is a gsm phone, there is no CDMA support, can one of you guys tell me how i can get cdma working?

MoonMaster345 said:
Oh thanks for mentioning it, Since this is a port from the Inc S which is a gsm phone, there is no CDMA support, can one of you guys tell me how i can get cdma working?
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Move the ril libs from my ascension Rom, as well as changeng the telephony network in the build.prop from 0 to 4...
http://www.4shared.com/zip/I1HX3DHQ/android_revolution_hd-incredib.html
This was my original port. Camera and GPS are non-functional. Camera just needs the right libs and bins...
from my HTC Incredible 2 using xda premium

You ought to upload that file to another service cause 4shared sucks...like dropbox or something.
Unless you want me to do it for you.
Im working on fixing CDMA right now, although i cannot test it so i need some willingful men to step up hahahaha:good:
Yeah..30 mins to download your ARHD

Update: I followed the instructions of @Macrodroid and made this little number
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2dhYiuyyj_9YVFZbE5XZzk1TjQ/edit?usp=sharing
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As i mentioned before, I cannot test these as my phone is not connected, so i need some of you nice people to step up.
And if you have any info on how to get a kernel to work on leaked rom-based roms, please let us know.
Thanks

MoonMaster345 said:
Update: I followed the instructions of @Macrodroid and made this little number
As i mentioned before, I cannot test these as my phone is not connected, so i need some of you nice people to step up.
And if you have any info on how to get a kernel to work on leaked rom-based roms, please let us know.
Thanks
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Would love to, but I'm Verizon. I need CDMA.
Sent from my PAC-nanimous, e-coli resistant Dinc2

Exactly, flash that

A couple of key points on arhd; 1st, it's not based on a leak, It's the inc s ota. Second, I know 4 shared is slow, but it gives you a solid CDMA functioning base... You're more than welcome to reupload it on another server, though.
The GPS issue is because the Rom is setup for blackrose hboot. Our firmware doesn't work with that. The kernel needs to be tweaked so the GPS paths are pointed to the correct location for our phone.... Hopefully that helps our new kernel masters to help get it fixed...
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium

What I meant by leak is that I used the leaked Rom to port this
Sent from my HTC Droid Incredible 2 using xda app-developers app

Macrodroid said:
Gps is completely disconnected... Other than that, it's a great rom, very fast and smooth...
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
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GPS is working fine. ???