I might ruined my defy+
When I bought it, it was in German, i changed it to dutch and had android 2.3.6
Flashed it with the all-in-one Defy beginners guide
Had a working android version afterwards, only calling/sms/2g and 3g didn't work. Didn't try to fix it because i wanted to flash the latest cm7.2.
Don't know what i did after that (afterwards we went to carnaval, so i drank to much). I know I installed a uk rom 2.3.6 version and here it went wrong. It went into a bootloop. Got the M logo and spinning white thing around. Tried installing differnt roms, none worked. And now my phone doesnt do anything, wont start or go in to bootloader. RDS light find it but white led wont go on.
IMEI/ESN/MEID: N / A
Technology: N / A
Software Version: N / A
Flex Version: N / A
Bootloader Version: v0x000910
DRM Version: N / A
AP Die ID: 1040020f1fab3a0a0000d8ff0100
BP Die ID: 0000000000000000000000000000
AP Public ID: 9aff8fe986ef65565a0a1e805942bbeaa8460f87
BP Public ID: 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Tried different roms, didn't work. Tried the following
"Common Problems/Questions
Black Screens when booting up: (!) Tried to install a version of Android with a lower CG Version than the one currently on the phone.
Weird behavior after installing a Fixed SBF: Install a matching Nandroid backup with your SBF, and remember to clear Cache/Dalvik Cache using Recovery.
Installed full Gingerbread SBF and can’t go back to another rom: (!) aha! We have a issue here!, latest Stock Gingerbread full SBFs comes with a Version 5 of the CG, meaning until not long ago you were pretty much screwed. But wait, there is hope! A one kind Éclair has been found in China Defys that comes with Version 5 CG!.
How to fix it:
Download this SBF and Flash it
Root your Phone
Download 2nd Init 1.4.2 and Install ClockworkMod Recovery
Download and install this Nandroid Backupwent wrong here, multiupload is gone so couldnt continue
Enter Recovery, Wipe Data/Cache
After wiping, turn off your phone
Turn it on and get immediately into Bootloader mode
Flash this Fixed SBF
Delete Data/Cache again and reboot"
Anyone got a answer for this? I am searching this forum for over 6 hours in the last days.
Mate, when you say it doesn't start... Nothing happens when you hold the power button? Not even the M logo (bootscreen) shows up?
Can you access stock recovery? When your phone is off, press and hold Volume UP button and power button. Does anything happen?
When you enter the bootloader, what does it say? Please write everything down.
I'm 99% sure that your phone isn't dead, you've just flashed some wrong stuff. First of all, CM7.2 is not compatible with 2.3.6. There is a CM7.2 DEFY+ version, but it works with 2.3.4 only. If you used a normal defy CM7.2, it's for Froyo only. Anyway, whatever version you used, it's not strange that it wasn't successful.
P.S I've done the same thing first time I've tried to update to some custom ROM
One more thing. After CM7.2 flashing resulted in a frozen bootscreen (M logo), please write down all the steps you did? It's kinda hard to figure out from that guide you've posted..!
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Mate, when you say it doesn't start... Nothing happens when you hold the power button? Not even the M logo (bootscreen) shows up? Yes nothing shows, looks like the batt is empty but that isn't the case
Can you access stock recovery? When your phone is off, press and hold Volume UP button and power button. Does anything happen?
No nothing
When you enter the bootloader, what does it say? Please write everything down.
I'm 99% sure that your phone isn't dead, you've just flashed some wrong stuff. First of all, CM7.2 is not compatible with 2.3.6. There is a CM7.2 DEFY+ version, but it works with 2.3.4 only. If you used a normal defy CM7.2, it's for Froyo only. Anyway, whatever version you used, it's not strange that it wasn't successful.
P.S I've done the same thing first time I've tried to update to some custom ROM
One more thing. After CM7.2 flashing resulted in a frozen bootscreen (M logo), please write down all the steps you did? It's kinda hard to figure out from that guide you've posted..!Didn't came to that
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Do you have a good link witch describes how to go from 2.3.6 to 2.3.4? For when my phone works again.
thank you.
taarmen said:
Do you have a good link witch describes how to go from 2.3.6 to 2.3.4? For when my phone works again.
thank you.
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Not really, buddy :-/
You should have answered my questions, that way I could have written you a step-by-step guide
What you should do:
0. Phone's off
1. Enter stock recovery
2. Wipe data and wipe cache
3. Turn off phone
4. Enter bootloader
5. Flash full stock 2.3.4 sbf - http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/1HLS00W4/
6. Your phone should boot up normally after the process is done
If you can not enter stock recovery, then just enter bootloader and flash the sbf. The thing is, those fixed sbf's don't have all the codegroups, so some stuff from CM7.2 has probably remained in your system. Full sbf should do a much better job. But, it would be great if you can enter stock recovery. That way the flashing must be successful.
Note, I haven't tried that 2.3.4 sbf! But it's the only one I could find. I need it too and I will test it tomorrow morning, so if you want, you can wait for me to test it first. (I need it cause my defy+ is on Froyo now, and Froyo and defy+ don't really like each other ) I have tested one 2.3.5 sbf, I can point it to it if you wish so. (It doesn't matter which android version it is, as they all have version 6 signed codegroups, so you can switch between them without worrying! Only some latest 2.3.6 ROM's are signed as version 7, but it's highly unlikely that you have flashed your phone with one such)
I Agree with niksy+, can't help, I have a Green Lens Defy, so all i have to say is good luck, and a step-by-step would have been nice
Thank you for the effort, my defy+ is braindead. When i connect it to my pc the white top led goes on. And that is it, nothing on RSD, wont boot, wont go in the bootloader
There's a trick for that i think i remeber it's:
Plug phone it with rsd ready (the phone should be dead with white led)
Pull battery out and press vol up + down
Put battery back in
It might not be exactly that but i can assure you i read somewhere what to do with your issue
Sent from my 1Ghz CM7 + CM9 Defy
crakeron said:
There's a trick for that i think i remeber it's:
Plug phone it with rsd ready (the phone should be dead with white led)
Pull battery out and press vol up + down
Put battery back in
It might not be exactly that but i can assure you i read somewhere what to do with your issue
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That process is called "force bootloader method" and it can be done on any and every Motorola, as far as I know..! (I've done it on my previous E398, ROKR E1 and ROKR E8 phones (yeah, I've killed all my phones dozens of times )) and, yes, sometimes it does get you into the bootloader when the normal way doesn't!
So, as crakeron said:
1. Battery out
2. Wait couple of seconds (to make sure the phone goes completely out of power > completely off)
3. Start up RSDlite (v5.3.1 minimum!)
4. Connect your phone to the usb (yes, without the battery)
5. Now, you need to press and hold a combination of buttons and insert the battery WHILE holding the buttons pressed and keep them pressed for couple of seconds.
*I'm not sure what the combination of keys is it, but I would try:
a) Volume UP and Volume Down
b) Volume UP and Power Button
c) Volume Down and Power Button
d) Volume UP and Volume Down and Power Button (this one is the least likely, I think)
6. Your phone should show up in RSDlite and you can flash it then. The bootloader maybe won't show up on the phone screen, but if it shows up in RSDlite - it's all that you need!
This forcebootloader thing isn't quite easy and it may take couple of tries to hit the exact needed timing, so try all combinations a couple of times. Let us know if you pull this off!
i have the popcorn out for this one - fun thread! will the defy be rescued??? tune in next time, same bat board, same bat sub board!
taarmen said:
I know I installed a uk rom 2.3.6 version and here it went wrong. It went into a bootloop. Got the M logo and spinning white thing around. Tried installing differnt roms, none worked. And now my phone doesnt do anything, wont start or go in to bootloader. RDS light find it but white led wont go on.
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If the UK 2.3.6 ROM you installed was this one then you will not be able to downgrade to any other 2.3.6 ROM (except I think this one), let alone 2.3.5, 2.3.4 or Froyo (it does say that in the thread you linked).
You should still be able to flash either of those 2.3.6 ROMs with RSD Lite. But no other ROM - until some more with CG 7 or above become available - and it's currently not rootable either. So no chance of CM7 or other such like goodies. At least you should be able to get a working phone that you can sell on eBay if you desperately don't want to be stuck with the T-Mobile 2.3.6 ROM.
Morals of the story:
1) Read before you flash
2) Keep a written record of what you did (I know, boring)
Good luck, let us know how you get on.
niksy+ said:
That process is called "force bootloader method" and it can be done on any and every Motorola, as far as I know..! (I've done it on my previous E398, ROKR E1 and ROKR E8 phones (yeah, I've killed all my phones dozens of times )) and, yes, sometimes it does get you into the bootloader when the normal way doesn't!
So, as crakeron said:
1. Battery out
2. Wait couple of seconds (to make sure the phone goes completely out of power > completely off)
3. Start up RSDlite (v5.3.1 minimum!)
4. Connect your phone to the usb (yes, without the battery)
5. Now, you need to press and hold a combination of buttons and insert the battery WHILE holding the buttons pressed and keep them pressed for couple of seconds.
*I'm not sure what the combination of keys is it, but I would try:
a) Volume UP and Volume Down
b) Volume UP and Power Button
c) Volume Down and Power Button
d) Volume UP and Volume Down and Power Button (this one is the least likely, I think)
6. Your phone should show up in RSDlite and you can flash it then. The bootloader maybe won't show up on the phone screen, but if it shows up in RSDlite - it's all that you need!
This forcebootloader thing isn't quite easy and it may take couple of tries to hit the exact needed timing, so try all combinations a couple of times. Let us know if you pull this off!
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Wel I hope that iolinux333 has enough popcorn because non of the mentioned forced bootloader steps works
When i put my + on the usb nothing happens for a few minutes after that a withe led will shine. Thats all.
Thank you all!
I asked you already on tweakers.net, but I'll ask the same questions here:
What's the status of your battery? (Full, empty, half-full?) What version of RSD-lite did you use? What version of drivers are installed on your computer? How many times did you try the different key combinations after pulling out battery, connecting to your computer? What did you see at each step?
Fotogravin said:
I asked you already on tweakers.net, but I'll ask the same questions here:
What's the status of your battery? (Full, empty, half-full?) What version of RSD-lite did you use? What version of drivers are installed on your computer? How many times did you try the different key combinations after pulling out battery, connecting to your computer? What did you see at each step?
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Been away for a few days. Back and ready to repair, I appreciate all your help.
no sim and sd-card
win7 64-bit
Battery is Full
RSD Lite version 5.6
motorola 5.4.0 usb drivers 64-bit
Tried all combinations at least 10 times. First I disconnect usb -> take out bat -> make combination and count to ten -> put in bat -> holds for minimum of 10seconds -> click on "show device" on RSD -> Nothing show
Nothing ever shows.
You really should give us more... What happens when you try to power it on? I think you only get black so, does power+vol(+) give you something or do you get a white led when you plug it in the pc?
If yes, it should be recognizable. I don't think you can get into bootloader mode when power-on gives nothing. Maybe by putting the battery back while holding the volume(+) I think and the power button. (like stated earlier) But I thought the white led was enough.
If you don't get the white LED and you only get black screen, maybe try to borrow a battery from someone...
If you get the white LED but RSD doesn't find it: try a few ports, maybe other PC, ....
I also think a Win7 window should pop up first with something like: 'Motorola diag... device found' (or maybe something completely different)
Then I think the easiest = warranty. I'm from Belgium. Had to send it to a repair center in the Netherlands (for a totally different reason) and it took them a while to fix it (it needed to be send elsewhere, .. ).
Just tell them you tried to update your rom and it wend wrong. Anyway, it takes about a month I think...
labsin said:
You really should give us more... What happens when you try to power it on?
Compleet black nothing happens
I think you only get black so, does power+vol(+) give you something
Still nothing
or do you get a white led when you plug it in the pc?
Yes I got that
If yes, it should be recognizable. I don't think you can get into bootloader mode when power-on gives nothing. Maybe by putting the battery back while holding the volume(+) I think and the power button.
Still nothing, not even the white led
(like stated earlier) But I thought the white led was enough.
If you don't get the white LED and you only get black screen, maybe try to borrow a battery from someone...
If you get the white LED but RSD doesn't find it: try a few ports, maybe other PC, ....
Haven't been able to trie different pc's. Tried differt usb ports, even those of my mouse and keyboard so I know they fully function, only white led
I also think a Win7 window should pop up first with something like: 'Motorola diag... device found' (or maybe something completely different)
nothing to show
Then I think the easiest = warranty. I'm from Belgium. Had to send it to a repair center in the Netherlands (for a totally different reason) and it took them a while to fix it (it needed to be send elsewhere, .. ).
Just tell them you tried to update your rom and it wend wrong. Anyway, it takes about a month I think...
Think i got to trie it,what can hapen if they found out i lied?
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Thank you for helping me, I just tried RSD Lite 5.7 and also nothing.
Sorry a bit late. You didn't lie
I should be recognizable. Especially with a full battery. If not, you might have had a bad install and they might have to replace the botherboard.
If you don't mind waiting a couple of days longer, bring it to the place you bought it. Then the delivery costs are free. But could take 1-2 weeks longer.
IF they do conclude it is your fault then you have to pay an amount of money to deliver it back or you can pay for repairing it (for motherboard could be 80-100 or more, actually don't know). Again when you went trough shop this takes a week or so. (motorola => shop => 3 days nothing => you => 3 days nothing => motorola).
They are not that picky at motorola except for water damage maybe (check for a red sticker below the battery. If it is still white => no prob)
Thank you all. I've sent my phone to the store where i bought it, on friday and the next friday i got it back. With a fresh stock rom.
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hey guys,
the original thread is located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=940647
i did everything according to the description...
directly after flashing chineese stock rom^^ .... came back to the pc (wasnt there during flashing, but nothing could have happened, only rsdlite running, phone wasnt recognized, phone was off, white led on)
(battery has been fully charged, so battery is okay)
i tried everything, volume up + power, didnt work, rsd lite cant recognize. nothing here...
maybe someone can give me advices? no chance here so far to get it recognized in rsd lite.
thanks - appreciate any help,
but i got the really bad feeling that i've bricked my phone - OMFG guys.
edit: omfg, now there is a warning. it wasnt there when i flashed it, on the links stands, u can flash some leak, BUT - no rsdlite, no fllashing^^ ? right?
edit2: read some more posts, will try mcgyver hack 2morrow, invited to a party right now^^ so without a phone meeting some people always a litte bit more complicated :====P ***so thumbs Up *** for my little person for tomorrow. cant explain why the battery should be completely empty? but hope, that white led just means that. - will report 2morrow -
edit3-solution?
my defy is already on the way to service, BUT
someone told me: ! --> HOLD THE POWER UP KEY - BEFORE u PUT THE BATTERY IN ...
this worked for him.. maybe this could help anyone else! good luck to everyone!!
this work for me
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892026
just flashed the chinese 2.2 with RSD lite, all went well, RSD gave a "pass" result to the flash And now the phone will not turn on, no lights or anything. Charge light doesn't even come on when plugged in, if i press power when it is connected to charger, the led flashed white once and nothing else. I had 3/4 full charge when I began, don't see how the battery could have drained out, but I will try charging externally
Also I was coming from T-mobile Eclair 2.1
ok, so my first flash I used a flie I downloaded labled 2.2CN_SBF.sbf
So I reconnected the phone to RSDlite, and it showed the device was connected, I downloaded the Chinese.SBF from Higgsy's page and still nothing but a dead phone, its definetaly not the battery if its connecting to RSDlite and letting my flash, and reflash. Maybe I will try going back to stock 2.1 sbf
make sure your set to first-Come-first serve Deviceid mode in rsd lite config
I've tried flashing the orignal offical UK SBF, and a Lite Chinese 2.2, nothing screen is black, can not get into recovery, phone stays in bootloader but has black screen although says SW upate when flashing
crazyVII said:
hey guys,
the original thread is located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=940647
i did everything according to the description...
directly after flashing chineese stock rom^^ .... came back to the pc (wasnt there during flashing, but nothing could have happened, only rsdlite running, phone wasnt recognized, phone was off, white led on)
(battery has been fully charged, so battery is okay)
i tried everything, volume up + power, didnt work, rsd lite cant recognize. nothing here...
maybe someone can give me advices? no chance here so far to get it recognized in rsd lite.
thanks - appreciate any help,
but i got the really bad feeling that i've bricked my phone - OMFG guys.
edit: omfg, now there is a warning. it wasnt there when i flashed it, on the links stands, u can flash some leak, BUT - no rsdlite, no fllashing^^ ? right?
edit2: read some more posts, will try mcgyver hack 2morrow, invited to a party right now^^ so without a phone meeting some people always a litte bit more complicated :====P ***so thumbs Up *** for my little person for tomorrow. cant explain why the battery should be completely empty? but hope, that white led just means that. - will report 2morrow -
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I already experienced this. It's a big no-no to flash the Chinese SBF if you're coming from 2.51. After flashing the SBF through RSD, the phone won't boot up. It's a good thing that my phone is under warranty and so i got a new replacement
nitski said:
I already experienced this. It's a big no-no to flash the Chinese SBF if you're coming from 2.51. After flashing the SBF through RSD, the phone won't boot up. It's a good thing that my phone is under warranty and so i got a new replacement
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Was forced to flash the leaked froyo tmobile signed SBF. Forgot that this Defy wasn't the orignal, my wife had it replaced due to Earpiece failure, so the replacement must have had the OTA already, cause i never installed it. Oh well its her damn phone anyways LOL
Just curious how would you check next time to see if its 2.51
So to sum up CrazyVII, You have to flash the Froyo Leaked SBF with the signed keys, otherwise you will never finish the bootloader flash.
Just connected to RSD and make sure its set to First cum first serve, and hit the power button on the phone, screen won't light, and my led didn't either, but it should safe connected in slot one of devices.
Start Flash, and wait to see the "M" , RSD will let you know when to restart the phone.
Hopefully they figure out how to make this downgradeable, I perseonally Have a G2, but I really enjoyed Rooting, and deblurring my wifes phone, its a nice device
nitski said:
I already experienced this. It's a big no-no to flash the Chinese SBF if you're coming from 2.51. After flashing the SBF through RSD, the phone won't boot up. It's a good thing that my phone is under warranty and so i got a new replacement
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seriouus answer? dont want to wait until a new one arrives..
Dalamak said:
So to sum up CrazyVII, You have to flash the Froyo Leaked SBF with the signed keys, otherwise you will never finish the bootloader flash.
Just connected to RSD and make sure its set to First cum first serve, and hit the power button on the phone, screen won't light, and my led didn't either, but it should safe connected in slot one of devices.
Start Flash, and wait to see the "M" , RSD will let you know when to restart the phone.
Hopefully they figure out how to make this downgradeable, I perseonally Have a G2, but I really enjoyed Rooting, and deblurring my wifes phone, its a nice device
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thanks for summing up,
u mean the chineese froyo release is something like the 3.4.?.? version? im going to search for it right now
maybe anyone can supply a link?
the problem is, i tried nearly evey combination, the phone doesnt recognized by rsd lite.best proposal would be - battery out - in - vol up + power - wait .... rsd lite doesnt do anything.
so very hard to flash.
do i need to apply the mcgyver trick, or is it useless....?
edit: why can't the phone load while off? i just understand the logic behind this behaviour...
best reagrsds thx,
cV
phone really dead.
guys, tried mcgyver trick....
white light goes on on usb connect directly... dont know why, but nothing worked. first come first served mode enabled in rsd lite.
rsdlite running the whole time. nothing connects, nothing realized.
direct boot (only power button), power + volup button, everything. no result.
the strange thing, in the meantime i saw someone posting, he flashed the whole thing(as in the description, 1st post) on 2.51 and on his phone everything worked fine.
no idea. but i think mine is really gone now. i think ill send it to my reseller tomorrow. im not quite sure if i can stay with such a situation (not loading in boot loader mode? WTF? no real recovery image? F*CK? bad hacks? no useful backup situation.. why do i need a recovery, when i cant access it when i screwed up? -> useless to me.
im really thinking of switching back to htc, although the DHD is too big, i think ill gonna take it
guys, any tipps? suggestions? id really appreaciate it. :=)
thanks for all the responses so far.
current situation
- mcgyver trick tried for 45 mins,
- rsd lite in first come first served mode
- white led goes on on usb connect immediately
- screen is black the whole time
- no results - no recognization...
- flashed chineese 2.2 on 2.51 firmware
Did the same goof up....got greedy for froyo and couldn't resist f&(*ing my defy........was cribbing for 8 hours while figuring out the solution.... escaped office for this.....but finally finally .......i saved it.......man.....if blood is the answer for blooood....then it has to be 2.51 for 2.51....
please click the link below for the only feasible 2.51 sbf....flash your defy in a standard manner and kabbooooom........defy reincarnated...
:
hope it works for all the good people in need....it worked for me (Atleast my defy turned on still observing how it works)..
Defy 2.51 sbf
Theres more....though i sacrificed one of my data cable for mcgyver jugulary...but got a wonderful outcome of my 12 hours wait..........my earlier (india) rom was not full blur...never realized it...facebuk never synced......but this uk rom is FULL BLUR..and its awesome......alll my accounts are intact......everthing works just fine....in face some of the the apps which never used to work earlier work flawlessly now........
ACCIDENTS ARE NOT ALWAYS BAD
All those greedy people wanting to flash froyo from 2.51 and wanting to keep their downgradability, you will need to search for tutorial from Bihariel where he put up froyo rom only for 2.51 base.
All the best.
Disclaimer:
I have the same problem this guy have:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036327
But no one in the thread was able to understand him, so I'm trying to open a new thread to organize the thoughts (there are too many people with too many problems posting there).
What happened:
I have a 1-month-old Defy. On the 2nd day I already had it rooted, running froyo (with Pays ROM), overclocked, undervolted and all this stuff. Three days ago, suddenly, it started to FC apps randomly. So I wiped. Then it became stuck on M logo. No big deal.
I tried then to reflash the SBF via RSDLite, but for some reason I only had the previous SBF (3.4.2-155-2) and my phone was running on 3.4.3-11. Don't know if it has downgradeability issues, but I couldn't flash it. It threw some checksum errors in the process and wasn't able to finish the process. Then my phone became "Code Corrupt". I was still able to see it in RSDLite. No big deal.
I didn't know the battery wouldn't charge in the bootloader screen, so I quickly ran into a "Battery Low / Cannot Program" state. It was written in the screen what happened. I knew what I had to do. No big deal.
I read about the MacGyver method, but prefered instead to use a universal charger to charge my battery. Was charging all night, seem to work on other defy (tested it later). But, now, my phone makes no response to battery insertion. Not even power+vol up, nothing. No white led, no bootloader, no code corrupt, no nothing. Ok, that's a big deal.
If I connect it to USB, nothing happens. No driver instalation, no device recognized, no RSDLite, no bootloader, no white led. Nothing.
The only response I have from the phone is: if I pull the battery and put it again while connected to USB, the computer will make an USB connection sound, then 2 seconds later, it makes an USB disconnection sound. If I open the device manager, it shows the Motorola Device for 2 seconds (OMAP something) and then it desapears. So I'm not able to see it in RSDLite.
I tried even to power up the phone with the MacGyver-crafted USB cable (with and without battery inserted together), but the computer response is the same. That is the only thing that makes me believe that my Defy isn't entirely dead. But isn't much useful after all.
Hope I explained it well. I'm one of those guys who doesn't speak english well, so I hope you guys understand me . Thanks in advance.
I would really like to be helpful, but it looks, that you tried everything. Only one thing. Try to check the battery voltage and if you can, try another battery in your phone. The charger could broke your battery, even if it one time worked in another phone.
Try reinstall usb drivers, rsdlite, different usb port, and different pc.
@peetr_
The battery seems to still work, as putting it in the phone makes it to be recognized (for 2 seconds) on the PC. Also, the phone seems to get a little warm while with the battery.
@ABC_Universal
I tried. Installed all the drivers in another PC I have here and tried the same methods I said before. Same results.
If you're planning to dumb the phone into a dumb site.. let me know when and where...
Ok... you need to narrow down the possibility here by putting another full charged battery and see if the phone do get connected status via PC. External charger might just toast your battery if you read carefully your entire story back starting from this line "I didn't know the battery wouldn't charge in the bootloader screen, so I quickly ran into a "Battery Low / Cannot Program" state. It was written in the screen what happened. I knew what I had to do. No big deal."
External charger might giving out totally different voltage/current rating from the defy own charger.
im having the same issue, did you solve it?
im having the same issue, did you solve it?
try putting a different Defy's battery, doesn't work just give it for RMA... you'll get a replacement. looks like a hardware problem to me...
You have tried the McGyver-trick?
I tried using another battery in it and didn't work. I was far from a computer when I tried, so I didn't check if I was able to connect it to PC (even if the screen was totally black). But if it was a battery problem, I was expecting at least the bootloader to appear, but still nothing happened.
I took it to RMA two weeks ago. Here in Brazil they take too long to return it =/. Still waiting.
skattegat: I tried. With and without battery inserted together. Both cases, I was only able to listen the USB connection start and end, 2 seconds later. I know the cable was working because even without battery, when I touch the wires, I was able to listen the usb connection sound.
Ok. At least you have the time now to enjoy your sunny weather in Brazil...
RSD lite sucks... Well it doesn't suck but it refuses to work anymore no matter what I do!
Use sbf_flash in linux and it should do the trick! PM me if you need help
First flash the sbf. Then enter stock recovery and do the recovery from there. Flashing does not wipe cache. But after the flash the recovery will do the wipe automaticly.
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Just a follow up:
My phone returned today from the warranty. Is fully working now, but I noticed the IMEI has changed. So I guess they changed the entire circuit.
It's not helpful for those who have the same problem, but I'm happy again
i have problem too..
I made a mistake in ROM CM7: I "install the 2nd init". and the results stuck on the boot logo .. : (
I finally went into the boot loader, then flash again use 3.4.2_177 SBF-005_NORDIC (do not wipe the data) .. remain stuck at the boot logo. and I try to use flash SBF-Stock.UKTmobile 3.4.3_11 (not wipe the data) and the results .... still stuck>> it's just an animated logo appears only.
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for this case:
I want to get into stock recovery:
1. defy turn off, turn the power button + volume down (hold a while)
2. logo appears>> android +! (the menu does not appear anything)
3. and I do not know anymore what should I do: (
please help me Quarx
thanks before
Don't see why you should ask the same question in multiple topics. My answer still is the same:
If pushing the lower right corner doesn't do the trick, try instead pushing both volume buttons at the same moment. Worked for me
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Fotogravin said:
Don't see why you should ask the same question in multiple topics. My answer still is the same:
If pushing the lower right corner doesn't do the trick, try instead pushing both volume buttons at the same moment. Worked for me
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it's work..!! sorry i ask same question on other thread.
i'm so confuse
makasih gan
hey omneon are you able to solve your problem..plz help me man mine defy is stuck on m logo. same problem like your..
ok guys so i just picked up a brand new defy. got it home tried to run z4root and it just would not work. so i decided to just use super one click. did that no problem.
i then went ahead and used the 2nd init. still no issues. then when i was ready to flash i got stuck. cant load into bootloader or anything. im afraid the battery may be close to dead but im unsure.
currently all i can do is see the m logo. thats it. cant seem to get into recovery.
i also tried rsdlite but i cant sem to find the right files cause they all have the wrong extensions.
please help. i have no problem with buying someone a beer!!!
1. Boot the phone into stock recovery by holding power and volume down at the same time, press both volume buttons when it boots and go to factory reset/cache, run that.
2. Reboot into bootloader, by pressing power and volume up, plug into your PC.
3. Download the latest version of RSD Lite, and download a 2.2.1 SBF of your choice. You'll need to unzip the sbf file from the .gz using a .zip program, I use WinRAR.
4. Open RSD Lite, choose the sbf file, make sure the phone is connected in BOOTLOADER mode (step 2)
5. Run RSD Lite, wait until is says "PASS" In the dialogue box.
6. Enjoy!
ok so i got it back to the bootloader that you mention. however its flashing battery low cannot flash. or something like that. now what...
1st of all you if the blue led does not lit then you should try to go to stock recovery (start your phone using vol down + power, then press the lower right corner of the screen when the android appears with an exclamation mark - on Eclair- / press both Vol Up+ Vol Down -on Froyo -). Then you can start your phone into bootloader and flash the SBF again.
PS: older 2nd init versions get stuck on boot if the USB debugging is ON and the battery must be taken out to restart your phone.
EDIT: wow...how many replays have you received while I was typing mine Good luck and keep us posted!
If it says battery low, cannot flash, simply charge the battery for a bit, and then retry
how can i charge the battery? i have no lights blue or white...
I'm not 100% positive about this, but if the phone is off, and not bootable, I think plugging it in still charges it. Anyone know?
ok i just went to radioshack and bought a stand alone universal battery charger. im guessing if i give to 30-45 min that should be enough to try this process. any other tips/tricks in the meantime? im wondering where i went wrong. also what is the best file (link if possible) to use? lastly what will it take to get back to usa tmobile rom and i guess start over?
Since you are in the US use this sbf http://sbf.droid-developers.org/umt...1028.0R_JORDANTMO_P022_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf.gz with RSD lite. Use this version of RSD lite 5.3.1 and Motorola drivers http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=609901&d=1306603535.
ALWAYS go into recovery and wipe first before entering bootloader and flashing sbf
The sbf I linked above is the stock eclair 3.6.360 for the US
Good luck if you need help just ask we are all here to help! You can PM me as well
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Since you are in the US use this sbf http://sbf.droid-developers.org/umt...1028.0R_JORDANTMO_P022_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf.gz with RSD lite. Use this version of RSD lite 5.3.1 and Motorola drivers http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=609901&d=1306603535.
ALWAYS go into recovery and wipe first before entering bootloader and flashing sbf
The sbf I linked above is the stock eclair 3.6.360 for the US
Good luck if you need help just ask we are all here to help! You can PM me as well
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Thanks for sending him those links.
Good luck, and as said before, if you need anything just ask, we are all here to help!
Hi.
After I successfully installed the cyangen mod, i wanted to install swype and some google apps. that is when i flashed the nightly sbf...
Since then, I could not start my phone..., only the bootloader (no matter which volume key i pressed).
So I looked for a full sbf to flash and found one, with code 2.5... (jrdnem u3 2.51.1)
but now, I can not even enter the bootloader. the only surviving signal of my phone i get is the white led when i connect it to the pc...
the battery status was at. about 85 %...
I'm really sorry, but i would be very greatful to receive some help
ps. before i flashed the nightly sbf, i forgot to wipe this thing in the bootloader...
Well...in my desperate state I was not able to type in the right words into the search bar. I think I found the answer to my Problem... My only task now is to find a well working sbf 2.5...
I'm still confused. I thought I'm not, but- would it be a problem if i flash the nordic cynagenmod, sbf version 3.4.2?
I would not knwo why not, but after I have these problems, I dont want to do anything again without knowing the consequence...
If you could enter stock recovery. You can do full wipe and boot to bootloader to flash your previous working sbf. If only bootloader your get now, just flash the nordic sbf and boot it into stock recovery to perform the full wipe.
Sent from my awesome Moto Defy: Stock Rooted Gingerbread 2.3.3 - XDA Premium
Right now, I don't even see the Bootloader or any Motorola-Logo. It just nothing happening, when I press the power button.
Your battery may well have run out of juice (same happened to me once upon a time). Leave it off, stick it on charge. Go have a cup of tea or two, then try again.
Alright. Now I'v had the time to check again.
Even with charging, the phone is still not turning on.
But I've read somewhere :" Don't worry, as long as you "see" your device in RSD Lite you can still flash the firmware. My big question is: WHICH SBF will help me? I#m really afraid to flash anything, because I don't now the consequence...
About the Cyangenmod: It said, it is not downgradable... does this mean, that I must take the JRDNEM_U3_2.51.1 sbf?
Hope this tips shade some light in your quest of resurrection of your dying Defy.
1) Use RSDlite 4.9 or 5.0 as these program known to be stable on PC.
2) Use the latest Moto driver 5.0.0 ver. Google it and you find it easily.
3) Install both the above 1) and 2).
4) Take out your Defy's battery, plug in USB cable on both ends
5) launch the RSDlite and insert the battery. You'll get some drivers installing and have the connected status display on the RSDlite window.
6) Flash the phone to this file HERE.
7) After flashed completed (At this point you won't get a normal boot yet, screen still black or stuck in moto logo), reboot into stock recovery and do full wipe.
8) Reboot again and you should be seeing it alive again.
Note: If somehow your battery run flat. You must do the Mcguyver trick to flash your phone. Do it quickly to avoid your battery get fried and damaged. I would suggest you brigde the wire connection to a 100Kohm resistor to bring down the voltage/current, this will protect your battery from getting fried.
Wish best of luck this time around.
Wow. Thank you very much for this step-to step guide.
Now, before I get started I have one question left: Can I also use the 5.1 Moto Driver? Or should I downgrade it?
I have the RSDLite 5.0 now, (before it was the 5.33 or so).
Those drivers should work too..
Sent from my awesome Moto Defy: Stock Rooted Gingerbread 2.3.3 - XDA Premium
I tried what u said, it's just that RSD does not recognize my phone, so I cannot even flash. I want to believe this is because the battery has run flat (which I don't understand, it still had about 70 % 2 days ago, when the whole story started...)
Please tell me that this is just the symptom of a low battery?!
Is it possible that the flashing has wiped out all firmware and bootloader and chargin system availeble on the phone?
My defy has the same problem. I have changed battery and a universal charger but i dont to know as resolve
I used the Mac Giver trick to flash the sbf onto my defy. It worked, my Defy is working again. Thank you very much
i bought this Defy+ just a couple of days ago and i was trying to get CM7. I struggled to root it but i achieved it. I wiped and did all the procedure before installing it, but i didn't had enough space on my SD, so i rebooted and booted like a brand new defy, going through the Blur config and everything... So i went to Recovery again, but at this time i forgot to do the wiping - which, i guess, led to a brick.
So i managed to get a .sbf to flash it.. What i didn't realized is that the .sbf was a custom, so i guess this ****ed up my phone even more. And so i went on trying to rescue my phone but this time i couldn't complete the flashing process, i wasn't able to perform a downgrade - i guess. After this, i got a non-rootable .sbf and began the flashing. The process got stuck on some message at 0%, then i disconnected the phone.
When i was able to download a stock firmware, from the .sbf thread, the phone wouldn't reboot when RSD asked, it didn't turn on again. So i tried to re-flash it, same .sbf and now i'm stuck with this situation: the pc is not recognizing my phone, i have a black screen - not even the Bootloader error screen is appearing and i'm here, begging, for someone to help me. is it dead? can i get it back?
HELP, PLZ
Is there any juice in the battery left? Does the phone even turn on or did you just drain all of your battery? If so, you have a couple of options - do McGyver or find somebody with the same phone and ask him to charge your battery and then start over. I would strongly recommend you take the second option.
Auris 1.6 vvt-i said:
Is there any juice in the battery left? Does the phone even turn on or did you just drain all of your battery? If so, you have a couple of options - do McGyver or find somebody with the same phone and ask him to charge your battery and then start over. I would strongly recommend you take the second option.
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it doesn't turn on, but i guess it does have battery, i can see the led on when i connect it to the pc
Led is always on when connected to the PC - it means nothing. If it doesn't turn on, then your battery's dead. Find someone who has the same phone and can charge it for you.
I think there is no problem, but you flash older firmware, which is probably due to the 7 bootloader does not go up.
try to be flash with one of these (2.3.6 GB)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537
begins with the 139-ended, if it is not going to work with the 188-ended
Sorry for bad English
"As of today there is no a full SBF** for the Defy+ (found here).
This full SBF is a new CG Version**, with Android 2.3.6. You wont be able to go back to your Stock Defy+ Rom, but at least you wont kill it if something goes wrong."
i successfully flashed it but still it won't turn on, i'm almost giving up on this one
caiowatanabe said:
i successfully flashed it but still it won't turn on, i'm almost giving up on this one
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If it gets past the red m and just keeps playing the android animation then simply pull battery hold volume - put battery in and keep volume - held when you get the android and the triangle press volume + and - and wipe all, should boot, unfortunately you've just flashed the un root able sbf and are stuck on moto standard
teamwork makes the dream work
nevermind, i flashed other sbf version and it is now working; too bad this version isn't rootable
anyway, many many thanks for all the help
caiowatanabe said:
nevermind, i flashed other sbf version and it is now working; too bad this version isn't rootable
anyway, many many thanks for all the help
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Feel free to keep an eye on the dev section for the bl7 rooting thread you may get lucky
teamwork makes the dream work