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Epic touch 4G HDMI dock question

Is there a dock for the epic touch 4G which can do HDMI out ? I have seen some which say charge and sync but what if I attached the mhl adapter for HDMI out to the back of the charger where I am supposed plug in the charge or USB cable ?
I want some thing nice to put the phone in when I do HDMI out. I figure I could leave the HDMI cord plugged into the dock and that way whenever I put it on the dock and go straight to HDMI mount. Works well because the mhl adapter has a charger cable
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not exactly sure what u are asking but i believe if you look at mhl adapters they should have a port for the charger on the side. this way its sends hdmi out and charge at same time but dont quote me on that . good luck.
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I want a desktop dock which that cable can hook into so anytime I plug the phone in to the dock it goes to HDMI out
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I want one too
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Can you plug an hml adapter to a dock?

rican408 said:
Can you plug an hml adapter to a dock?
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Well some docks have a slot for you to plug a micro sd slot like for a wall charger or a USB adapter to connect to a of or charge.
My idea is connect the HDMI out cord to that slot on a dock and hook into the tv. The HDMI adapter has a seperate slot to hook up the phone charger so the phone can still be powered.
Perhaps we could even then take the USB charge cable and attatch it to a pc and mount etc if needed
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I have an mhl adapter. It has a micro usb on the side for charging. in order for it to work with a non mhl TV you have to plug the charger in. Newer TVs can charge via hdmi. I plugged the mhl into my stereo receiver and it charges but my older JVC LCD requires the charging cable
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Very curious if the cable out the dock would work as well.
Dicho por el Epic Touch de latinmaxima

Anyone ?
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If any manufacturers are reading this...
A brilliant idea that anyone with the Galaxy S2 or any MHL compatible phones will most likely buy is a desktop dock that has the MHL adapter built into it!
dock the phone, plug the HDMI into the dock. Anyone else here agree?

latinmaxima said:
Very curious if the cable out the dock would work as well.
Dicho por el Epic Touch de latinmaxima
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Doubt it, as I've tried connecting phone to computer for a simple file transfer but it would not see the data connection. Removing the dock from the equation worked which makes me believe that dock forces the charge-only mode. I do also have hdmi/mhl adapter but too lazy to dig it out and test it

HDMI dock
Ok. So I got a dock off amazon to try this out and it does work. I recorded a video to show it on you tube too.
I took my MHL cable with usb power to side and plugged the micro usb that would normally go into the phone into the back of the dock where the power goes. Put in phone and bam there it goes. Now if only I could find a way to disable the screen while mirroring. It slowly drains the battery even with extra power. Now to hook up bluetooth controller and play old school games
PS. I noticed i actually do gain a charge when my phone is in airplane mode with wifi on. Could just be my poor signal here causing drain.
Here's a link to the dock I'm using.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005OTXKK4/ref=oh_o01_s00_i00_details
Here's the Youtube video demoing it working.
http://youtu.be/A3MW029b5HU

Does anyone know of any docks out there that fit an Epic 4G Touch with 3200 mAh battery (like the Seidio BACY32SSEPT-BK, sorry I cannot post link since I have less than 8 posts).
Thank you!

HDMI Dock
Cant post a link to an hdmi dock for the e4gt but I purchased one on ebay made by KiDigi. It works well but I wish the screen would shut off when outputting hdmi instead of mirroring.

It's likely that the micro usb port on the side of the dock is only wired for power and has no data capacity.

frigidazzi said:
Ok. So I got a dock off amazon to try this out and it does work. I recorded a video to show it on you tube too.
I took my MHL cable with usb power to side and plugged the micro usb that would normally go into the phone into the back of the dock where the power goes. Put in phone and bam there it goes. Now if only I could find a way to disable the screen while mirroring. It slowly drains the battery even with extra power. Now to hook up bluetooth controller and play old school games
PS. I noticed i actually do gain a charge when my phone is in airplane mode with wifi on. Could just be my poor signal here causing drain.
Here's a link to the dock I'm using.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005OTXKK4/ref=oh_o01_s00_i00_details
Here's the Youtube video demoing it working.
http://youtu.be/A3MW029b5HU
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Very, very cool.

hdmi
do i have to get the dock in order to be able to play the hdmi from my phone to my tv or can i just get a mhl adapter?

You only need the mhl cable. Mono price had then for cheaper. Then you plug your phone charger into the side of mhl cable. Then hdmi to TV and adapter.
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do i have to get the dock in order to be able to play the hdmi from my phone to my tv or can i just get a mhl adapter?
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i have this same adapter and it charges my phone unless i am playing a video through MX video player, then it just discharges at a slower rate than normal.

nacron said:
I have an mhl adapter. It has a micro usb on the side for charging. in order for it to work with a non mhl TV you have to plug the charger in. Newer TVs can charge via hdmi. I plugged the mhl into my stereo receiver and it charges but my older JVC LCD requires the charging cable
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What is the mhl you have called?

Cheep MHL adapter= Full HD un compressed mirroring

This may be old news but I found this MHL adapter for like $15 on amazon and it put a full HD mirror of my phone to my 73" TV that looked great!
Oh and it can allow charging of the phone at the same time.
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Youtube Clip

I am an idiot that cant seem to get the youtube video link to work but I have a video of it

They have tons online ranging from $4.99 to $15.99. Some have charging ports, some don't.
Can you do a test to see if your battery slowly depletes while using it AND a charging cable? Some say that even when charging the same time, the Nexus screen and video out eats too much power for the USB charger to keep up with.
So as a test, could you hook it up with power and output to your TV for like an hour (maybe a movie) and see if the battery % is less, the same, or more then before you started.
There's a Thanks in it! Plus I'm thinking of buying one but there aren't enough tests to prove it's the USB Wall Charger, MLH Adapter, or phone that is the problem.
Also - That link is absolutely atrocious.

sorry about the youtube link. I tried a bunch of different things, all failed. Mine does have the charging port. I will test the charging functionality tonight. I tell you what, the one Youtube video that I watched with it looked great and I haven't found anything that isnt mirrored yet

I will say this, I picked this one because it was one of the ones being used at the MHL booth at CES

Can you supply a link to it on amazon please? Thanks.

player911 said:
Can you do a test to see if your battery slowly depletes while using it AND a charging cable? Some say that even when charging the same time, the Nexus screen and video out eats too much power for the USB charger to keep up with.
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I ran into this with the 700mA BlackBerry charger by my home theater, but I used a generic 1000mA charger with no problems (search Amazon for B005F9W6DU to find my model). I believe that the stock Samsung charger is also 700mA.
EDIT: Just for kicks I hooked my phone up to my HP power supply via a cannibalized USB cable. I measured just shy of 1000mA when plugged in directly. When plugged into the MHL adapter I was just north of 400mA. I'll have to explore more, but what I don't understand is how I was able to play a movie and not lose any charge at that charge rate. I suspect the voltage of the cheap-o USB adapter may be a bit on the high side, allowing a faster charge over the same current (with a non-zero risk) but that would require investigation.

Yea I think this is the cause of the confusion. The standard charger is slow. Seems it can't keep up with charging while using the phone. I have TONS of chargers because I'm an IT admin that services hotels. They always have a box of left over goodies behind the front desk (good tip to know). They are always happy to get rid of that crap. I always find some awesome universal chargers, backup batteries, laptop chargers, cell phone accessories, etc left behind by guests.
Good to know it'll work with the right equipment.
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Asus Transformer Revolver

2 things. Its smooth video with audio and it charges just fine . Get the one shown. I have it, works great. Use a battery pack when you don't have a close outlet.
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haydtdiu said:
Use a battery pack when you don't have a close outlet.
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More good advice. I have a pair of APC UPB10 batteries because I can't stand the thought of buying spare batteries (and custom chargers) for every phone and Bluetooth device I own. With 10,000mAH it's enough to last me when I'm away from a power source, plus with the GN I don't need to worry about spare batteries making NFC more painful to use.

jdbower said:
I ran into this with the 700mA BlackBerry charger by my home theater, but I used a generic 1000mA charger with no problems (search Amazon for B005F9W6DU to find my model). I believe that the stock Samsung charger is also 700mA.
EDIT: Just for kicks I hooked my phone up to my HP power supply via a cannibalized USB cable. I measured just shy of 1000mA when plugged in directly. When plugged into the MHL adapter I was just north of 400mA. I'll have to explore more, but what I don't understand is how I was able to play a movie and not lose any charge at that charge rate. I suspect the voltage of the cheap-o USB adapter may be a bit on the high side, allowing a faster charge over the same current (with a non-zero risk) but that would require investigation.
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Thanks!

This is all well and good but you still haven't specified which company makes the one you have or supplied a link to it.

How do you turn on video out? I plugged it in and it doesnt work right off....

jdbower said:
I ran into this with the 700mA BlackBerry charger by my home theater, but I used a generic 1000mA charger with no problems (search Amazon for B005F9W6DU to find my model). I believe that the stock Samsung charger is also 700mA.
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Samsung in-box AC charger is 1A. Their DC car charger is .7A. I picked up the Samsung OEM MHL (actual Samsung, not a fake) dongle with the OEM Samsung charger, it still drains a bit when in use. Since it's just a bit, the phone naturally gets blazing hot.
The official MHL outputs at 720p (having used two different MHL kits, it seems that's the phone's output most of the time), unless I'm playing a 1080i/p movie, where it switches output to 1080p. Does the one you have do the same or does it up-convert to 1080p all the time?

Can anybody confirm that this is a worthy purchase?

vladimirhtg said:
Can anybody confirm that this is a worthy purchase?
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Can anyone confirm the meaning of life?
The cable works. If you have a use of connecting your phone to the TV, then its worth it. If not, then it isn't. You can check plenty of videos on YouTube to see the cable in action with our phone.

Did anyone try flash videos directly from a website? Youtube and videos from file work fine but when I try playing a flash video through a site, the video keeps flickering. I told the seller and got another one shipped. Same thing though. Wondering if I got two bad products or if this just happens with flash.

can we get a link to the amazon one OP?

Got monoprice one......loses signal every time i move :////

Just for reference..."Full HD" is 1080p, not 720p. This thing doesn't output Full HD.

Looking for a micro usb to rca adapter for tv

Hey everyone, I unfortunately don't have an HDTV, so I can't use an MHL adapter. So can anybody recommend to me a good micro USB to RCA adapter that I can use on a TV?

Ummm wow. Uh you can pick up a MHL adapter and maybe try to convert HDMI to VGA (analog signal) then VGA to RCA.
The HDMI to VGA convert the signal from digital to analog required for what your looking to do.
I suggest monoprice for the adapters because it may not work. I think the phone requires some kind of communication from the TV before it will output at all.
Maybe go to radio shack and ask them. They work off commission and usually let you try the parts in the store before you buy it.
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I was looking at monoprice and I couldn't seem to find one cable that would do it, and I was hoping that I didnt have to use adapters on adapters to get the job done.
I found this on amazon: http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=463383511&pf_rd_i=915398
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but unfortunately it goes from the headphone jack, which I would assume doesnt send out the picture quite as good as from the usb, but hey for less than a buck (canadian) what do i got to loose right?
But I would still like some suggestions on what I could use through the micro usb

Please don't order that you are wasting your money, the phone doesn't support analog out of the headphone jack. Also you can't convert a digital picture to analog via cables. There is no way to go from HDMI to RCA without expensive conversion in which case you should just buy a HD TV.

Damn not the news I was hoping for, thanks though for the insight!

Search Amazon for B0047PDBP0, you've looking for an HDMI to composite (not component) video converter. However, even a cheap one is ~$50 and the quality won't be great even with a good one. You may be better off putting that $50 towards an HDTV. Amazon also has a few cheap 720p models in the $100-150 range.

Really??????

meber said:
Please don't order that you are wasting your money, the phone doesn't support analog out of the headphone jack. Also you can't convert a digital picture to analog via cables. There is no way to go from HDMI to RCA without expensive conversion in which case you should just buy a HD TV.
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this is true. i tried this one and it only does the audio...no video.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004CPCSW2/ref=oh_o02_s00_i00_details

I hate to say it, but after all the crap you need to go from MHL to HDMI to component to composite, you'd be cheaper off with a 20" HDTV from your local electronics store.

meber said:
Please don't order that you are wasting your money, the phone doesn't support analog out of the headphone jack. Also you can't convert a digital picture to analog via cables. There is no way to go from HDMI to RCA without expensive conversion in which case you should just buy a HD TV.
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you can get an HDMI to rca (component) adaptor without expensive conversion..
there are cheap ones on ebay.. i dont know if the phone outputs the required data for this cable to work, however.. has anyone tried? i'm interested because i only ahve composite video available on the screen in my car

Without d/a conversion the signal is still digital and not analog regardless of the plug(s) the adapter changes the HDMI cable into. If your screen supports a digital input, then it might work, but I doubt it does.

if you already have an MHL cable, then youre $50 away from getting what you want http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...&cagpspn=pla&gclid=CNiDrvDUmLQCFelDMgoduyAAtg

mhl micro usb to rca
Wouldn't any of these work?
http://www.amazon.com/VicTsing-Micro-Adapter-Samsung-Galaxy/dp/B00GNR7PX4
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MHL-Micro-U...=US_Video_Cables_Adapters&hash=item2a2da9674d
http://www.samsung.com/us/photograp...B5MA11?cid=gog-ac-mul-0613-10000027:confused:

easycap
Would easycap work here? I am not sure but thinking if can connect andorid phone to CRT tv using easycap and usb to micro usb adopter. Did any one tried already?

Actually some interesting solutions found on amazon, just aroud 20$
from microUSB directly to RCA, USB charging cable included
(unfotunately XDA still doesn't allow me to post URLs)

Questions about HDMI dock

First of all, I already ordered original Samsung MHL adapter, as it's much cheaper, and I will use it from time to time. I also got the audio dock for charging, and not use the usb. And ordered original Samsung OTG adapter.
Now for my questions, from what I know, the HDMI dock can charge, and use HDMI to connect to TV, but it's limited to videos only? or not?
and second question, what if I connect OTG adapter to the microUSB on the dock? will it work? or it same limited port, like in MHL adapter?

What, no buddy here have the HDMI dock?

E15i said:
First of all, I already ordered original Samsung MHL adapter, as it's much cheaper, and I will use it from time to time. I also got the audio dock for charging, and not use the usb. And ordered original Samsung OTG adapter.
Now for my questions, from what I know, the HDMI dock can charge, and use HDMI to connect to TV, but it's limited to videos only? or not?
and second question, what if I connect OTG adapter to the microUSB on the dock? will it work? or it same limited port, like in MHL adapter?
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I read something somewhere that running pre-4.0.4 stock would actually allow the HDMI dock to function as a mirror. I didn't have this with AOKP 4.0.3 however. My phone is limited to just video (Currently 4.0.4 AOKP). I'd love it if I had the option to use the dock for mirroring.
The OTG adapter shouldn't work with the USB port, as it's limited to charging, no data. Says so in the manual for the dock.

Ohh, I just not sure if to cancel the order of MHL adapter, sure it's more handy, and small, so if I go to a friend, I can get the adapter with me...
The thing is, that here: http://www.droid-life.com/2012/03/23/review-samsung-galaxy-nexus-hdmi-portrait-desktop-dock/
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So they recommend to update the ROM to thelatest, but they also say it limited to video only. on other hand, pre 4.0.4....yes you guess it, there was no any dock settings in the ROM, but it worked just like the much cheaper MHL adapter, I already spent some cash on the Pogo Dock, so my microUSB stay still ,
I know it more good looking with the dock, but if it really limited, then **** Samsung.
P.S, can anybody here comment on latest stock 4.0.4? is there same limitation to video only? because, you see, I have HTPC in one room, and watch movies and other stuff with it, so spent money on some sheet I may use from time to time, is stupid, as the Pogo Dock at least save my microUSB port, and even have line out with an option to use optical cable, but the HDMI dock, only can show videos, so why the **** I need it then ? I do see it good with emulators if I not at hotel or something, but if MHL adapter can mirror, and it cost much much less, why buy that dock? also some aftermarket HDMI docks can mirror the screen, like that:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gal...s_Adapters&hash=item2ebd72c665#ht_2529wt_1859
hell, that thing, can charge, sync, and mirror hdmi, and even can work with phone in a case, **** Samsung guys, aftermarket sometimes can be over 9000 times better that original, to bad there no pogo aftermarket one.

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I have both OEM OTG adapter and MHL adapter for my GNex. I am running IMM76K deodexed, zipaligned. I can view files from flash drive, connect external drive, or do almost anything you can do with a computer using OTG adapter. And I can mirror phone on TV w/ MHL adapter w/sound and everything.
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The thing is, that the phone recognize the dock as a different accessory, not like regular MHL adapter, but most people I asked, on 4.0.4 it not mirror .
anyway I ordered the MHL adapter, and OTG, original Samsung BTW, I will need them just in case, but that case both cost less then that crap dock, but I could not resist not to buy the pogo dock , I know it not cheap, but it a cheap price for working micoUSB port
PS, check Kidigi docks, they support MHL, and even can charge second battery, sync, charge, and fit a phone with a case on it.

I bought the official pogo desktop dock from the Play Store for my GSM Nexus with CM9 nightly on it.
The dock's micro USB port ONLY works for charging!
If you plug it into a computer's USB, it will charge but will not connect, manually even says not to plug it into the computer because it may damage the dock, says to use a charger.
So not sure if OTG will work or not.

I just opened the box. Plugged in a USB drive in the back of the dock, no power is being supplied to the drive. I am not using an OEM Samsung otg cable. If undock and plug in the USB drive straight tot the phone it world no problem.
I will try with a powered HD and ill experiment with mirroring and non video outputs
edit: the dock does work with the OEM extended battery (w/ no case), it's a little tight, but actually fits pretty good

SlimPort + v1.4 HDMI Cable w/ Ethernet

I've just received the Analogix SlimPort HDMI adapter (SP1003) for my Nexus 5 and it works fantastically with my short 1-2 metre HDMI cables.
However, if I try a 10 metre cable, the display cycles between on and off every few seconds.
Now, I'm not sure whether it's the length of the cable or if it's the cable's version. My shorter cables are most probably version 1.3 HDMI cables. The 10m one is 1.4 with ethernet.
I've read somewhere that HDMI cables with ethernet do not work with SlimPort. Is that correct? Should I order an older 1.3 version? I'm thinking 10m is a bit excessive anyway and I'll probably go for 3 to 5 metres this time anyway. But I didn't want to order one with ethernet and experience the same problem!

I have a 3m 1.4a HDMI cable and experience the exact same situation. Same happened with a MHL 1.0 adaptor I tried with SG Note 3, so I concluded the cable is just to long for a phone to provide signal. But I'm not sure about this.

I have a hdmi 1.4w/ethernet cable that I use with my slimport. About 2m I think. No problems.
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I have been wanting to buy a longer hdmi cable for my Analogix SlimPort SP1003. After reading a couple posts, I'm not sure if a longer cable will work as well.
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I don't suggest to use a cable longer that 2m.

blowfly7012 said:
I've just received the Analogix SlimPort HDMI adapter (SP1003) for my Nexus 5 and it works fantastically with my short 1-2 metre HDMI cables.
However, if I try a 10 metre cable, the display cycles between on and off every few seconds.
Now, I'm not sure whether it's the length of the cable or if it's the cable's version. My shorter cables are most probably version 1.3 HDMI cables. The 10m one is 1.4 with ethernet.
I've read somewhere that HDMI cables with ethernet do not work with SlimPort. Is that correct? Should I order an older 1.3 version? I'm thinking 10m is a bit excessive anyway and I'll probably go for 3 to 5 metres this time anyway. But I didn't want to order one with ethernet and experience the same problem!
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If you don't mind me asking, from where did you pick up your Analogix SlimPort? It looks like it's only available from a 3rd party seller on Amazon for $50, and I can't find any other reputable sellers that still sell it for it's original $30 price (or preferably lower ). Thanks.

So I sent the 10m cable back and ordered the cheapest 3m cable I could find from Amazon UK here. It doesn't even say what version it is, so I assumed it was 1.3 without ethernet.
I got lucky as this cable works perfectly. No dropouts at all.
charesa39 said:
If you don't mind me asking, from where did you pick up your Analogix SlimPort? It looks like it's only available from a 3rd party seller on Amazon for $50, and I can't find any other reputable sellers that still sell it for it's original $30 price (or preferably lower ). Thanks.
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I got my adapter from Amazon UK here for around £20 ($30) as I live in the UK. I can't seem to find the same one on amazon.com. One of the cheaper ones might be just as good as the adapter is only passive anyway.

Anyone heard/tried Kanex SLIMPORT
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Apparently it supports
Easily display and share your videos, photos, games and more from your Google Nexus 4, Nexus 5, and Nexus 7 to an HDTV with high resolutions up to 4K picture quality and full digital audio surround sound
Another MicroUSB to charge your device while its plugged in your device
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfPlF698feI#t=12

gd6noob said:
Anyone heard/tried Kanex SLIMPORT
Apparently it supports
Easily display and share your videos, photos, games and more from your Google Nexus 4, Nexus 5, and Nexus 7 to an HDTV with high resolutions up to 4K picture quality and full digital audio surround sound
Another MicroUSB to charge your device while its plugged in your device
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfPlF698feI#t=12
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Reading through their website they have some crappy editorial skills, so I'm not gonna trust them. Looks fishy.
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