Calling all custom rom users.......... - About xda-developers.com

Hello everyone,
We as a community have taken advantage of the work of our rom/theme devs. Each rom i use i donate $30. If the dev releases an update i throw them another $30. Android survives on its development and the devs are the ones to thank for making our phones awesome. Im not saying you are a **** for not donating but we all need to.
Keeping this short. Thankyou for reading.
Now go support xda so we all can keep enjoying wonderful mods/hacks.
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Yes it is really true, support the community! This peoples making our devices better ;-)

vabeachfc3s said:
Hello everyone,
We as a community have taken advantage of the work of our rom/theme devs. Each rom i use i donate $30. If the dev releases an update i throw them another $30. Android survives on its development and the devs are the ones to thank for making our phones awesome. Im not saying you are a **** for not donating but we all need to.
Keeping this short. Thankyou for reading.
Now go support xda so we all can keep enjoying wonderful mods/hacks.
Sent From Space Using My ICS Flavored Sensation
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While this is a great thought, not everybody can afford to donate to every dev on XDA. Although it's a nice gesture to make donations to the devs, people shouldn't be made to feel like they have to.
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Agree with you!
let's respect other people's work ..! : D
Sorry for my bad english

Developers here due it for the love of it. If they wanted to make money they can use the market.
While it is nice in no way is it ever required or even asked for. It is just that. A donation. Given freely and anonymously.

Right. Just trying to promote it
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zelendel said:
Developers here due it for the love of it. If they wanted to make money they can use the market.
While it is nice in no way is it ever required or even asked for. It is just that. A donation. Given freely and anonymously.
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Market can be fun lol tho I like doing roms for the fun of things donation are nice if folks love it and if they want to also thanks are welcomed. Keeps the coffee pot full so you can stay awake at night . Tweaking the rom and having fun with things.
I still offer the same great stuff and help even if I don't get a thanks or a donation for all the effort cause I like to keep folks happy and on track
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Maybe you donate, and I love the thought that we can donate to people. I just can't afford to lol
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A donation is cool, but i'm fine with a "Thank you" every now and then.

I agree these devs are incredible and do deserve it
Like a few other posts say its not something everyone can do especially when flashing multiple roms
When I use something of a devs and cannot donate I make sure I contribute in someway..of course I say thanks but there are other ways
If i use a Rom and a friend asked what should I try say hey I used this devs he's great. And he says to his friend and on it goes that dev gets more users more input on bugs more people to donate etc
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boombotz401 said:
I agree these devs are incredible and do deserve it
Like a few other posts say its not something everyone can do especially when flashing multiple roms
When I use something of a devs and cannot donate I make sure I contribute in someway..of course I say thanks but there are other ways
If i use a Rom and a friend asked what should I try say hey I used this devs he's great. And he says to his friend and on it goes that dev gets more users more input on bugs more people to donate etc
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Nice idea ! I would do sane with my friends but only problem is , they don't know what rooting and roms are etc. So I just do a simple thanks or spread it on through xda instead of friends
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What ever the form of thanks, just be sure to give it!
Times are tough right now, and every understands having tight wallets.
When you're able to throw some thank$, maybe you'll remember the help you've gotten in the past.
...just my two cents

I agree
Yes I really agree and think that we should donate. Donations make devs keep up the good work. and improve the rom even more. Those devs really make our devices better. For example my device LG optimus GT-540 sucks. but with devs such as Mur4ik or Mikegapinski we are up to date with the android OS

TwiztedDotNet said:
What ever the form of thanks, just be sure to give it!
Times are tough right now, and every understands having tight wallets.
When you're able to throw some thank$, maybe you'll remember the help you've gotten in the past.
...just my two cents
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same here, money is tight (im in england so we english people use £'s) so i can only afford what i need in reality not the internet, just a simple thanks from me. sorry guys but not all of us can throw away money in these rough times in england ;(
BUT, when i get some money, and things here where i live have cleared up then i can donate
I am setting up paypal now, if people wanna donate to me or anyone, then go ahead, once i get some money, then i will donate to people,

I donate to the dev's when I use something they have created/developed, and so far without fail, they have all been grateful and send a thank you email. It's cool to see a community function well. Thank you to all the devs.

Using custom rom on my MB200, but not much I can do with the bad processor.

most Devs appreciate either donations or thanks ( or both ) , so we can all do our part as best we can

I agree with all of you. It is important to show the devs our appreciation, both using the "Thank you" button and donating as well. When my situation with the money becomes better, i will donate to some. Got my Samsung Galaxy S since 2010 & I have tested a lot of roms. The effort that the devs are giving into development is incredible!

I'm a developer, and personally, a Thanks is enough
A donation is like gold
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[REQ] Minimal Elegance

bcparker over at sdx-developers has created a simply amazing samsung moment theme called minimal elegance. Anyone interested in porting it? I tried using some of the autoporting scripts with no luck so far.
I'd post a link but I don't have permission yet... haven't been a member of the forum long enough.
+1
That's one sexy theme. Can't post links either sorry.
I particularly like the dialer.
I can always be persuaded 2 people wanting the same thing use not enuff
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That's a nice theme. I'd request this too.
nice i want
Me want this as welll. Pretty please
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Thanks to everyone expressing interest. If any of you could post the link to the sdx board (like I said can't yet) that might help drum up some interest.
Much thanks!
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here is your link sir
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/theme-files/(bcparker)-minimal-elegance-v4-released!/
looks really nice!
with all the recent b/s going on with my theme i choose not to dev, port anything for android anymore.
@venumx
Thanks for the link!
@mysteryemotionz
I'm very sorry you had a poor experience. My quick search didn't find the issues you referred to, but I have seen instances of members acting ungrateful in the ROM/customization community, and it upsets me every time. The developers are creating all this and giving it to the users for free. There's no reason for complaints. If I don't like something, I simply don't use it. I still appreciate someone took the time to give me another option. If that wasn't your experience I apologize on behalf of everyone involved. Much thanks for what you did contribute before you were convinced otherwise.
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@venumx
Thanks for the link!
@mysteryemotionz
I'm very sorry you had a poor experience. My quick search didn't find the issues you referred to, but I have seen instances of members acting ungrateful in the ROM/customization community, and it upsets me every time. The developers are creating all this and giving it to the users for free. There's no reason for complaints. If I don't like something, I simply don't use it. I still appreciate someone took the time to give me another option. If that wasn't your experience I apologize on behalf of everyone involved. Much thanks for what you did contribute before you were convinced otherwise.
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look in my themes thread. also look in the baked snack thread where it all started.
not everyone is like you and expect everything for free. use devolpers do this has a hobby and dont ask for a dime. yes we have donation links but we dont force you to donate to use are product. ive s[ent well over 30 hours alone working on my theme and thats with the help i recived from others. why should i continue my work if people are going to be un gratefull about it
does look pretty

General Discussion-Bootloader petition and donations

Figured I'd start a general discussion thread about the petition to Acer and also about raising the bounty to interest more devs.
We can discuss these things in here rather than polluting other threads
Will be donating what I can the beginning of Feb.
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willing to donate as well
Awesome! Thanks guys!
I don't expect we'll get thousands but anything will help. If we can even raise enough for one device to get it to a dev, that would be awesome!
On another note, we seem to be doing well with the petition so far! Tell your friends, share on Facebook, make sure you "like" it which makes it go viral in other people's feeds etc!
I signed the petition already, but I don't know how much a dev can do to specifically unlocking a bootloader. I understand the bootloader is encrypted, which means that unless we have they key we won't be able to boot our own custom roms flashed through recovery. Although I have been following on my Droid3 forums about how devs have created some workaround solutions for using the stock bootloader and somehow getting around it, although I believe it is more complicated than that. The user Hashcode knows a lot about that sort of stuff on the motorola droid platforms. I'm not sure how much he can help but it might be a good starting point?
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I gotta get in front of a real computer so I can donate a few bucks.
Can somebody reach out to Hashcode, he might be willing to help out.
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Can somebody reach out to Hashcode, he might be willing to help out.
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Done! PM'd him.

[Team whatever]

So I have been wondering for awhile now and maybe someone can explain it to me but what are the teams about? Isn't XDA one big team? I do not understand why people break up into little groups. Wouldn't it be easier\better if everyone was all on the same team sharing info and knowledge?
Not trying to bash anyone for being on a team or saying they are bad I am just curious.
I think its just that there's certain individuals that decide to pursue one side of developing and other individuals who pursue another. Where their interest don't meet they seek others. There's small competition which will always lead to innovation. And they brand it a team for rightful acknowledgment and credit. They don't keep info from others they share it when asked I'm sure.
There are 3.6 billion women in the world and I just made my own sandwich.
You catching what I'm pitching?
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rujelus22 said:
So I have been wondering for awhile now and maybe someone can explain it to me but what are the teams about? Isn't XDA one big team? I do not understand why people break up into little groups. Wouldn't it be easier\better if everyone was all on the same team sharing info and knowledge?
Not trying to bash anyone for being on a team or saying they are bad I am just curious.
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Well I started TeAm VeNuM because I am self taught. I wanted to teach and help those that wanted to learn. Most developers are secretive, arrogant and egotistical. I wanted a TEAM that would help each other and place "WE" before "I". Because in all the years I've been doing this I have yet to learn everything. But people on our team are constantly helping me learn, live and grow... "There is strength in numbers."
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There are 3.6 billion women in the world and I just made my own sandwich.
You catching what I'm pitching?
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lmfaoo
rujelus22is right if all share knowledge alot can me accomplish like makign more cool roms and more tweaks etc! SHARING IS CARING
but then again there is competition
VeNuM said:
Well I started TeAm VeNuM because I am self taught. I wanted to teach and help those that wanted to learn. Most developers are secretive, arrogant and egotistical. I wanted a TEAM that would help each other and place "WE" before "I". Because in all the years I've been doing this I have yet to learn everything. But people on our team are constantly helping me learn, live and grow... "There is strength in numbers."
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Well that is good to hear. I have always had good experiences with TeAm VeNuM. I have like you said though run into a lot of the other type of teams that are secretive, arrogant and egotistical.
mrej its often not about competition. Not everyone has the time to help every single person. It takes more time to write a good thread than it does to assist one person. But we applaud both.
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ROTFLMFAO!!! What a GREAT analogy iSaint!! Bravo!!! Lmfao
iSaint said:
There are 3.6 billion women in the world and I just made my own sandwich.
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iSaint you are a crazy S.O.B. But This forum would be almost boring without you around. Lol.
Teams are just that. I want to grow and learn new things. Its very hard when you are all alone. To have other people there to help you when u need it is a great asset. I would help anyone who needed it dont get me wrong but I like the fact i got numerious people on my side. Other devs are kinda self centered. I was getting that way my self then I realized it didnt make any sense to go at this alone.
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I think of all the guys at team Mik as my mentors.. its who you learn from that you stay loyal to. There are several little niches or specialties.
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Well see now I read all of that and I feel all lonely by myself now.
rujelus22 said:
Well see now I read all of that and I feel all lonely by myself now.
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Seems like your thread is full of outstanding team mates.. Mark for one..
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strongsteve said:
Seems like your thread is full of outstanding team mates.. Mark for one..
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We're great cheerleaders just not quite ready for prime time (i.e. know little to nothing about creating ROMs, themes, etc) but he definitely has our support!
I'd love to start learning just have to find the time to get started and stick with it, for now I just ride the bench and root him on.
VeNuM said:
Well I started TeAm VeNuM because I am self taught. I wanted to teach and help those that wanted to learn. Most developers are secretive, arrogant and egotistical. I wanted a TEAM that would help each other and place "WE" before "I". Because in all the years I've been doing this I have yet to learn everything. But people on our team are constantly helping me learn, live and grow... "There is strength in numbers."
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Team ERA started out sorry of the same way on the OG epic by ksmullins. There was a bunch of us who wanted to give back so we started working together, pretty much self teaching each other other new things all the time until we finally got some ROM's going. Unfortunately After a while some of us moved to different devices and kind of fell off the charts, but i think we are starting to get back together at least when we have time. It would be nice if we had some more of the OG epic guys come over here with us but we try and make due and are always taking help when we can. Without help from other teams, devs, and xda members we wouldn't be anywhere. I can't vouche for any other forums but the OG epic and this one really are great communities for all members to learn and create great products.
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Esoteric68 said:
We're great cheerleaders just not quite ready for prime time (i.e. know little to nothing about creating ROMs, themes, etc) but he definitely has our support!
I'd love to start learning just have to find the time to get started and stick with it, for now I just ride the bench and root him on.
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Once I get the time to finish up my guides maybe this will change.
ACS is really a great team to be on. XDA gets big. If I need guidance or want to learn an aspect of things I know who to go to. Sometimes you can move faster within a team. Also sometimes teams create the need for a project and in the end everyone's a bit better at what they did or learned something completely new.
rujelus22 said:
So I have been wondering for awhile now and maybe someone can explain it to me but what are the teams about? Isn't XDA one big team? I do not understand why people break up into little groups. Wouldn't it be easier\better if everyone was all on the same team sharing info and knowledge?
Not trying to bash anyone for being on a team or saying they are bad I am just curious.
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If you had a team you wouldn't have to theme every app in your great ROM your themes or amazing but as you know there are alot of black on black text that you can't see if you had a team that might get worked out faster
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rujelus22 said:
Well see now I read all of that and I feel all lonely by myself now.
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You could have your pick of teams. I don't think anyone would refute that
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I think the teams are more like the brand name.. like stated a lot of devs from the og epic and even from this device has since moved on to other devices but im sure still speak and help eachother out and still consider themselves part of that team. but everybody has a name.. team venum, rogue, era, etc.. but i agree, all these different teams and individual devs should help eachother as much as possible not sure what happens behind the scenes though so i have no idea how each is personally.. dont have no reason to interrupt a dev but i can vouch ruje let me test a few betas of his rom and no other dev has
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because you cant have organization without teams, and without organization, nothing gets accomplished. you're thinking of teams in the sense of sports where teams play against eachother. that isn't true in this case. here, teams work alongside each other with a common goal: to enhance devices. it's no different than a store having different departments; the departments aren't working against each other, they're working alongside each other to form a bigger picture.

Becoming a ROM Developer?

I've wanted to create my own ROMs for a while since I had my old Evo but didn't get around to it. I know that the easiest and most common way for newbies is through the Android Kitchen but I've read that the kitchen is meant mostly for HTC phones and the initial list that I saw here on XDA (updated in Summer 2012) does not include our Galaxy SIII. It does include almost all of the other Galaxy models. I also read something about YAFFS having something to do with the kitchen too, that most high-end devices don't include this which is a reason why the program doesn't support our devices.
Anyway, I have read that there is a possibility that it was supported or there was a file that I could use for it. So I was wondering if this was a method through Android Kitchen or another way of creating a custom ROM.
Do some research on "Aroma Installer". Also, pm a developer of a rom that you find stable. Ask them if you can use their rom as a base. That is a great place to start. Even before you ask, just download a rom. You can load it on your device, modify it on your phone, and zip it up. Just do not post it for anyone else's use without asking the developer. If you don't want to use another developers work, start with stock as your base. I strongly recommend that you start there, gain some knowledge, do a ton of reading, and report back after. For the most part, developers are very friendly and willing to help. However, they don't want to teach you the basics or the lingo. I build my own roms, just for me. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
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mnhertz26 said:
Do some research on "Aroma Installer". Also, pm a developer of a rom that you find stable. Ask them if you can use their rom as a base. That is a great place to start. Even before you ask, just download a rom. You can load it on your device, modify it on your phone, and zip it up. Just do not post it for anyone else's use without asking the developer. If you don't want to use another developers work, start with stock as your base. I strongly recommend that you start there, gain some knowledge, do a ton of reading, and report back after. For the most part, developers are very friendly and willing to help. However, they don't want to teach you the basics or the lingo. I build my own roms, just for me. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
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Thank you very much for the helpful post! I kind of figured it was just modifying existing ROMs. But I'll check out that Aroma Installer and see what I come up with.
ndh777 said:
Thank you very much for the helpful post! I kind of figured it was just modifying existing ROMs. But I'll check out that Aroma Installer and see what I come up with.
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Well alot of the times people join a team and get taught the ways of making a rom!!!!!! Im going to be doing a team memeber Search soon. alot of Team rejectz memebers are still in SGS2 section and we need some over in this thread
That's something I thought about doing lately. I've been flashing roms for years but never attempted to build a rom. Maybe time to do some research!
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lorjay589 said:
Well alot of the times people join a team and get taught the ways of making a rom!!!!!! Im going to be doing a team memeber Search soon. alot of Team rejectz memebers are still in SGS2 section and we need some over in this thread
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I actually have an idea for you guys. If you want my help, I'm willing. Create an amazing stable rom, and create themes for the most popular NFL teams. Then, package it as the NFL lovers rom and include nfl apps and game watching tools. That's a big market.
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lorjay589 said:
Well alot of the times people join a team and get taught the ways of making a rom!!!!!! Im going to be doing a team memeber Search soon. alot of Team rejectz memebers are still in SGS2 section and we need some over in this thread
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I would love to learn! I'm eager to! pm me.
Devices:
Samsung Galaxy S3
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Motorola Cliq
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I think part of being a developer is knowing what forum section to ask a questions. LOL.. Just saying
mnhertz26 said:
I actually have an idea for you guys. If you want my help, I'm willing. Create an amazing stable rom, and create themes for the most popular NFL teams. Then, package it as the NFL lovers rom and include nfl apps and game watching tools. That's a big market.
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Lol thats what i was doing for football season Ugh lol you let the cat out of the bag. I have a rom out Called "The Ultimate Rom" which will change with the seasons. But for Thanksgiving I was going to drop an Update called the "Turkey Bowl", Where Im dropping Icons, and colors to match your fav team
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I apologize for posting in the wrong forum. I'll make sure to read the rules more carefully before posting next time.
lorjay589 said:
Well alot of the times people join a team and get taught the ways of making a rom!!!!!! Im going to be doing a team memeber Search soon. alot of Team rejectz memebers are still in SGS2 section and we need some over in this thread
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I've seen these teams across various communities and scenes but I'm curious in what sorts of ways do each member in team contribute to the overall project? Is it like a construction site where you have a welder, crane operator, etc. where each person does a different job or is it something different?
mnhertz26 said:
I actually have an idea for you guys. If you want my help, I'm willing. Create an amazing stable rom, and create themes for the most popular NFL teams. Then, package it as the NFL lovers rom and include nfl apps and game watching tools. That's a big market.
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That sounds easy enough. Thank you!
ndh777 said:
I've seen these teams across various communities and scenes but I'm curious in what sorts of ways do each member in team contribute to the overall project? Is it like a construction site where you have a welder, crane operator, etc. where each person does a different job or is it something different?
well i look at it like this, Im the founder of Team Rejectz but this isn't a pyramid or some type of dictatorship, nor will you be judged for being new. we're more like family and all though some of us have our own projects we still look out for each other and teach each other what ever we learn or know. Its always good to know that if you ever need help with something, there's a teammate a text a way or call, to help you out and make sure your getting the right info and not some imitation developing.
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Why no cm10

Hey. Wondering why cymod10 isn't getting work on it? Just curious how this all works. Thanks.
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source keeps on updating daily...
Once that is stable ul get full working cm10
patience bro
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Wut???
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So there is a group or team that develops the rom(aokp, cm10), and when they put new builds out individuals pick then up and do the writing necessary to run a partocular device?
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there's no "groups or teams" we BUILD CM10\AOKP\PA all from source i work on Base rom's which is CM9\CM10\AOSP when the CM* rom's get stable enough i pass them to maxwen and he finishes them off, which gives me free time to de-stress and spend time with girlfriend and work on other projects.
for CDMA JMZtaylor builds the Base rom's which are CM9\CM10
we work together......seeing threads like this drives me up the wall
Why would it drive you up a wall? Because I'm ignorant of what y'all do? I wish i could apologize for wanting to understand (sarcasm, mind you).
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Why would it drive you up a wall? Because I'm ignorant of what y'all do? I wish i could apologize for wanting to understand (sarcasm, mind you).
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Dude,
XDA is NOT a support site of any kind.
It is a forum for developers, yes it has grown massivley over the years, but in general most folks on here are at least kinda techie, geeky, or both. There are also many users who just want to download cool stuff. There is nothing wrong with that but devs get annoyed when "users" don't want to take the time to learn forum rules, read, or do a bit of research.
Every dev on here is a volunteer, they do what they do because they enjoy it, and like being involved in a community of like minded folk who know the devices we spend our cold hard cash on are usually capable of much more than manufacturers like to release. Yes, there are "teams" large and small but they do not get paid for this, work under deadlines, or are expected to provide any support.
I don't mean to sound too cold, but with a little reading and research you could have found out all you needed to know about the CM team, AOKP, etc AND read in Lior's dev thread that his build is UNOFFICIAL meaning not an officially supported device by the actual aokp team. Even if it were an officially supported device that would not mean timetables, support, or warranty. Seriously, do a little research.
And understand, when you joined in August what number were you? Did you watch the "you are a noob" video, I made my son watch that when he joined. There are LOTS of new people here who demand, are rude etc. I am not saying that you are necasarily one of them, but when each device can count the number of devs on two hands or less, compared to the number of registered XDA users and you can see how a dev like Lior could get upset at your lack of wanting to read.
In the future, until you have contributed to this forum please refrain from even using sarcasm with a respected dev. Read, learn, and I hope you enjoy XDA, but remeber it is a developer forum, not a noob support site.
Regards.
Edit: ahhhh, just realized I kept typing Lior, and not Lloir, my apologies Dude.
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