Android 5.0 Jelly Bean - Defy General

what will happen to ICS?
http://www.gsmarena.com/android_50_jelly_bean_to_arrive_in_q2_with_chrome_os_dualboot-news-3839.php

Interesting...somewhat...
I kinda always hated that google's "update, update, update, update" policy They are jumping from one to the next number to fast (Chrome browser > v16 after what, 2 years? Opera > v12 after 15 years?) That's what I hate
And about ICS vs Jelly Bean... Well, Jelly Bean is oriented to large screen devices only, as it's written in the article, so I'm pretty sure that ICS won't have its successor on the smart phone devices in any soon time...
Anyway, I really hate google's number jumping

Think that jelly bean is the next gen of honeycomb, and ICS as the next gen of gingerbread. If you Think that way it will save you a lot of time.
For the guy who hate google updates, i kinda like it that way and help solving a lot of problem such as speed and what i like about ICS, the visual
If you put Eclair and ICS site by side you will start like updates too
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[SDK] Android 4.0 and some leaked ICS stuff!

GPL source code for the 4.0 / r14 SDK
Android 4.0 Platform SDK
Highlights
Some leaks:
ICS Wallpapers - Download
Roboto Font - http://bit.ly/nKvZlh
Here is the /system partiton - http://bit.ly/q8Wb3S
Here is the /system/app folder - http://bit.ly/pamKdr
Nexus Prime Bootanimation
Am i the only one who wanna throw sense in the garbage when this becomes available!?
I want ICS too... clear ICS like on galaxy nexus...
@KasperHermansen
No, you are not the only one. Count me in!!!
are the devs working on it?
do we have a timescale?
Is the source code of honeycomb available now?
we only need the ICS source code (not available yet)
a System Dump is available:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1309620
looks beautiful
only thing i will miss from sense is weather widget (the big ones and the small ones with clock) and calendar widget (android one is too ugly.)
I dont think I will switch from Sense to ICS as long as they dont improve the stock android email client (not gmail)...
It lacks even basic features such as selecting multiple emails for deleting/moving etc...
And in the ICS presentation, they only talked about the new gmail client... :/
Well they are obviously going to promote Gmail more since its a G app... but yeah, the stock Email app kinda sucks... We'll have to wait and see if they made any improvements in ICS... but I highly doubt it...
As for Sense dumping... Im all in! As soon as we get an ICS build for our pretty device, im aboard!
Im curious as to wether we can use our hw buttons and completely dismiss the on screen ones for more screen real estate... We can use the now obsolete Search button for multitasking...
First post updated.
Dont try to use the apps yet as they are compatible with ICS only!
SDK port is always made while the devs wait for source, so i'm waiting for someone to cook a ROM with the SDK and to try it.
The source probably come out with the Galaxy Nexus so we have to wait till the end of November, is a long month coming
Furma said:
looks beautiful
only thing i will miss from sense is weather widget (the big ones and the small ones with clock) and calendar widget (android one is too ugly.)
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To me Pure Grid Calendar and Go Weather have been good replacement for Sense widgets. I'm using MIUI which is wonderful. From what I've read, much of the new ICS stuff is already built in MIUI.
G2 has got an alpha port: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1309854
Cmon Desire Devs where are u?
DJ_Jedi said:
G2 has got an alpha port: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1309854
Cmon Desire Devs where are u?
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That release boots. And that's about it. As in, that's actually it. It's nowhere near being usable, and it's on a different device as well.
In other words, my God man, calm down. Give our devs some time! ICS has only been here for about 16 seconds and a half.
I would love to see a new rom with Android 4.0 So...where to spend my money?
ICS looks like inconsistent garbage. iOS and WP7 are light years ahead.
Terepin said:
ICS looks like inconsistent garbage. iOS and WP7 are light years ahead.
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Written by an android user?!........Well i guess that despite your signature, you did not think before buying your handset than. You should of gone and bought a wp7 or ios device and look at the same homescreen every day for years to come. For me this is brilliant. It's all that android is and all other systems are not. Clean, simple, fast, revolutionary yet very beautiful and it's probably customizable to the max.
I think Terepin had some serious brain washing.
Light years ahead? Can you be more exact and give some examples?

[Q] Is ICS already dead?

Will we see some good improvements in ICS before Jelly Bean?
Is there any announcements on ICS 4.1, 4.2 or something similar?
What needs improving in your mind?
If you're looking for fun new features...look into the rom scene.
And who knows what numerical version will be assigned to Jelly Bean...but it might be 4.1 itself.
Eclair 2.1
Froyo 2.2
Gingerbread 2.3
Only until we hit honeycomb (tablet only) did they increase full version #'s. (3.0)
And then back to tablet/phone integration at 4.0.
Jubakuba said:
What needs improving in your mind?
If you're looking for fun new features...look into the rom scene.
And who knows what numerical version will be assigned to Jelly Bean...but it might be 4.1 itself.
Eclair 2.1
Froyo 2.2
Gingerbread 2.3
Only until we hit honeycomb (tablet only) did they increase full version #'s. (3.0)
And then back to tablet/phone integration at 4.0.
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Exactly! I don't know why everyone is saying 5, ICS was only different because it unified the phone and tablet versions.
yes ICS is dead because the world is ending in Dec amirite?
Zepius said:
yes ICS is dead because the world is ending in Dec amirite?
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Galaxy Nexus AOKP m5 Franco kernel m3
samthe2can said:
Exactly! I don't know why everyone is saying 5, ICS was only different because it unified the phone and tablet versions.
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Exactly. Too many people are confused about what jellybean actually is. Jellybean=improved ICS. It is just a version number...forget the cute little names! It is not going to be some major groundbreaking software update...the UI probably won't even change much! Think...froyo to gingerbread.
My ICS melted on a hot spring day when I left it in my car.
How is ICS dead it's only 6 months old? Yes, recent announcements schedule new Nexus devices and Jelly Bean in November but, ICS was made to unify the phone and tablet software where Jelly Bean will build on that. ICS is without a doubt the best release yet and is still gaining steam as more and more phones are getting updated. I'm not expecting Jelly Bean to be as big of a change as Gingerbread to ICS was but, I could be wrong.
Whats the point of this thread anyway?

Jelly Bean voice search

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDsOtdRtG0Q&feature=g-u-u
Is there anyway to get this as a stand alone apk or isnt possible yet ?
looks quite impressive even though its a gimmicky I cant help but always look at these things and think "wow how cool" but once I have them never use them lol
Please continue any JB related discussion here:
Jelly Bean (JB) for the HOX - OTA/Information/Update/ETAs/etc

Some Apps perform badly on Jelly Bean

I just got the Galaxy Nexus yesterday and installed Jelly Bean on it. Some apps like Quickpic and Apex Launcher runs very sloppy on it. I'm just wondering if it's problem with my device or those apps are not optimized for Jelly Bean yet.
sigh...
its the apps.
Well considering there's only a preview SDK for JB, and its only been out for a week, not sure why you're surprised that some apps are crashy.
Remember, there's no official release of JB or any devices with JB. You have a preview release for developers on your device.

What is so good about JellyBean?

Well over the weekend I tried 4 different JellyBean ROM's, I used stock kernel or kernels supplied by the ROM creator or Franco's. I just don't see what the excitement is about?! Am I crazy or blind or something? I figure I must be missing something and thus why the question. I want to know from you what you find so great about JellyBean that current ICS 4.0.4 ROM's don't already offer. Ya ya I know, it's early but still. You opt to drop a feature filled ROM for JB which to me is as plain jane as you can get. I think battery is better, wifi/data handling is better but beyond that I just don't see anything that says, GO TO JB! I guess I'm spoiled, I don't know. I use AOKP and BlackICE predominantly on my phone and the ability to change theme's, status bar options, nav bar resizing are all very important for me. So today I am back on BlackICE and just elated to have all my customization options back.
Well...While I'm camping AOKPM6 as well...
I also understand the thrive to be on the newest [best] thing.
Some people will trade features for simple bragging rights...
It's also got google now. And is much more fluid.
Aside from that; if you're currently happy where you are: stay there.
If you NEED the latest and greatest, you've probably already moved on.
Jelly Bean is way faster then stock ICS 4.0.4
Everything that I do is faster now. It's soo smooth! I haven't (yet) used a custom rom for my Galaxy NEXUS so I came from the most stock you can get. My phone is also just ~10 days old. I have never experienced android 4.0.1 to it's fullest extent because I went straight from 4.0.1 to 4.0.2 to 4.0.4 within 10 minutes (OTA update) Used 4.0.4 for a while since last thursday which is the day I got the update to Jelly Bean. It's just smoother. Especially the browser with playing youtube flash videos is way faster now. It used to be very laggy if I tried to zoom in/out and it was a little bit choppy when scrolling up and down. Now with Jelly Bean, the scrolling is way faster (not buttery smooth but it's faster!!) and zooming in/out is buttery smooth WITH playing video's through the stock browser (not chrome). Those were 2 720p video's playing at the same time and the performance was great. Way better then I had with Android 4.0.4
Now, if I find any slowdown I blame the phone, yet those same slowdowns also happen on a stock Galaxy S3 which my brother owns. The phone's UI is faster than a GS3 (which already is super fast!)
What jelly bean does is, it enhances the Stock android 4.0.4. You are on a custom rom which already enhanced stock 4.0.4. So I don't know how much a improvement you will notice but just wait till the dev's release an enhanced Jelly Bean Rom! That will kick ass for sure!
While I found some things faster I didn't find the whole experience better. I guess as you said I'm using a custom ROM and kernel. A lot of mix and match but its pretty lag free for me overall.
Ya I guessitmate it will be faster with a custom JB ROM. So far all ones I tried are just to stock and not much of an improvement.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
JB is awesome. and pretty fast. but in real world usage ( for me anyway ) not enough for me to stick with it over a custom ICS rom.. went back to AOKP and trinity . best combo for me. once the other roms catch up with JB etc. will switch.. but im content atm..
you just have to watch the Google IO Keynote yourselves...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuC0i4xTyrI (Jellybean starts at 4:58 and ends at 30:00)
I definitely sense the increase in smoothness and speed with Jelly Bean. I remain on ics for now though since aokp has spoiled me with all the extra features. Once they release JB with everything merged in I'm never looking back to ICS
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Idk how its possible to not see a noticeable difference between the 2 if you have used JB. I love JB but its killing me not having features of custom ROMs. So I'd definitely say stay on what makes you happy but once the same thing is available on JB there's def. No reason not to switch.
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see for me i find all those customization fetures kinda useless and over whelming at times. id find mself just changing stuff just cuz i could. often breaking or messing other apps up. took me a week to figure out that if you fool with the navigation bar the game nba jam (which i play daily) wouldnt start.
but on JB its all about performance. its smoother/faster than ICS. custom/stock. its its project butter engine.
animations more flluid, no choppiness and of course it has the siri competior google now. not to mention its prettied up a few gapps like google music/youtube/sms. the notification bar is waaaaaay more usefull, though still without toggles.
This thread makes no sense. Of course custom Roms are gonna be better. None of the devs have merged the jelly bean source her so we only have ICS Roms for now. Jelly bean brings significant smoothness and speed, Google now, offline speech text. Its great improvements.
Butter makes it better, duh!

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