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Hello!
Please tell me which games are there which I can't play on ARC while I can on PLAY?
Please name such games if you can.
I am about to buy any one of these tommorrow, and don't know which to prefer; here is a little comparison, please correct me if I am wrong and also mention something I might have missed;
ARC :
Great body design
Great body material
Great Camera
Poor sound
No gaming Pad
Larger Screen
Not so good Web experience
Not so good Touch Interface
Radio
PLAY :
Average body design
Poor body material
Average Camera
Great sound
Gaming Pad
Average Screen
Great Web Experience
Great Touch experience
No Radio
Also tell me is there any difference between them as far as the user experience is concerned, I mean any application or function or anything that ARC has and Play don't or vice versa?
How much do they differ as far as the browsing experience is concerned?
So far Arc is winning, I guess, but now it all depends upon the games. That's is why I am contacting you all. I mean I am interested in Star Battalion and Asphalt (which from what I know can be played on ARC), and not much interested in Crash Bandicot.
Please reply soon.
Thanks in advance.
Can you tell me why you think the play has better web experience then the arc I think the specs of the same are they not ?
Torres77an said:
Can you tell me why you think the play has better web experience then the arc I think the specs of the same are they not ?
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I've never had a problem with the web experience on the arc .
Torres77an said:
Can you tell me why you think the play has better web experience then the arc I think the specs of the same are they not ?
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Hello!
I don't know really.
I guess I got the impression from the fact that SE's official site says that PLAY is a great web experience on top of great gaming experience. And also from a video which showcased some downsides of ARC's browser versus that of IPhone 4 but couldn't find any video doing the same for PLAY.
I have to Disagree on some of your Points there on Arc
Poor sound
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You must not say POOR in General because for a Single Loud Speaker Arc Speaker is One of the Best out there, Dont' compare Single to Stereo Speaker, but Yes Xperia Play's Speaker is The Best Speakers on Mobile Phone out there.
Not so good Web experience
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Of course Bigger screen means Better Web Experience IMHO, I don't see why Arc will not do better than Play?
Not so good Touch Interface
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All Xperia right now have The Same Excellent Touch Interface, but Most Xperia's out there are Applied with Shatter Proof Sheet on a Mineral Glass that protects the screen, that could slightly decreases Touch Performance
IMO Both Phones are Great except they are focused on Different markets
Arc as the Camera/Video Stylish Phone and Play as the Gaming Phone Equipped with Superb PS controls and LOUD Stereo Speakers
but overall Experience is Great
You can also visit my youtube channel to see Arc in Action for Games
Arc Youtube Video's
I think you forget to mention that play does not support Brave Engine and i think both device has pretty good sound too. Just get to the store and try it.
Hey lol im facing the exact same crisis! I've kinda decided on the arc. Some of your points are not true mate. The arc web browsing is better. What the play has that the arc doesn't are the dedicated gaming controls and stereo speakers. By no means are the arc speakers bad. Don't pay much attention to the SE website.. they promote their phones as much as they can. For the xperia x8 they say access to thousands of apps on the market. That doesn't mean the androids don't lol. Arc has a brilliant camera, based on personal usage better than the N8 I don't know how.. 12mp vs 8 and even the owner of the N8 reluctantly admitted the arc camera was better. Arc has the exmor sensor and BRAVIA engine while play has no sensor, but has a BRAVIA port. Doesn't Work that great imho. Very little difference. Also keep in mind though that in bright light, bravia might not be good. It overdoes things sometimes and you can't turn it off. I'd love some feedback to this thread from arc owners, IV already got some from play owners. I think I'm gonna go with the arc cos I'm not a hardcore gamer and the arc screen is big enough to support touch controls on normal android games. Fpse can be a problem but I doubt I'll ever use it. Also, I doubt the play can support ps2 and psp games.. so I'm reluctant to get one. There may or may not be any exclusive games being released for it.. would be a HUGE disappointment to play owners. When it comes to custom roms and kernels, it appears the play has a bit more support I assume.. this is just my 2 cents.. would value other opinions very much.
Edit- arc touch interface is awesome. It's bloody brilliant. And it can detect more that 2 fingers simultaneously. Only negative point I have about the arc- in SOME models, hairline cracks appear in the housing. Just google it. It's quite rare.. and you won't notice it in most cases. If this doesn't bother you, it's fine. It doesn't affect performance or anything at all. It wouldn't bother me.. I wouldn't even notice lol. Yea.. thats my 2 cents.
price is a constant too, the arc is cheaper
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Hey lol im facing the exact same crisis! I've kinda decided on the arc. Some of your points are not true mate. The arc web browsing is better. What the play has that the arc doesn't are the dedicated gaming controls and stereo speakers. By no means are the arc speakers bad. Don't pay much attention to the SE website.. they promote their phones as much as they can. For the xperia x8 they say access to thousands of apps on the market. That doesn't mean the androids don't lol. Arc has a brilliant camera, based on personal usage better than the N8 I don't know how.. 12mp vs 8 and even the owner of the N8 reluctantly admitted the arc camera was better. Arc has the exmor sensor and BRAVIA engine while play has no sensor, but has a BRAVIA port. Doesn't Work that great imho. Very little difference. Also keep in mind though that in bright light, bravia might not be good. It overdoes things sometimes and you can't turn it off. I'd love some feedback to this thread from arc owners, IV already got some from play owners. I think I'm gonna go with the arc cos I'm not a hardcore gamer and the arc screen is big enough to support touch controls on normal android games. Fpse can be a problem but I doubt I'll ever use it. Also, I doubt the play can support ps2 and psp games.. so I'm reluctant to get one. There may or may not be any exclusive games being released for it.. would be a HUGE disappointment to play owners. When it comes to custom roms and kernels, it appears the play has a bit more support I assume.. this is just my 2 cents.. would value other opinions very much.
Edit- arc touch interface is awesome. It's bloody brilliant. And it can detect more that 2 fingers simultaneously. Only negative point I have about the arc- in SOME models, hairline cracks appear in the housing. Just google it. It's quite rare.. and you won't notice it in most cases. If this doesn't bother you, it's fine. It doesn't affect performance or anything at all. It wouldn't bother me.. I wouldn't even notice lol. Yea.. thats my 2 cents.
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You can Turn Off Bravia Engine in the Display Settings
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You can Turn Off Bravia Engine in the Display Settings
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Thanks! Did not know that
Hmmm.... are you satisfied with your arc? Any main advantages/disadvantages?
About price - the arc came out at a significantly increased price when compared to the play. However, prices around now are the same. (In my country at least)
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Thanks! Did not know that
Hmmm.... are you satisfied with your arc? Any main advantages/disadvantages?
About price - the arc came out at a significantly increased price when compared to the play. However, prices around now are the same. (In my country at least)
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No problem. Actually I also had my dilema choosing Arc or Play these were the phones available at that time when i was going to replace my X8, I read a lot about these phones, and their price is almost the same $520 Arc and $525 Play, but i bought the Arc instead with lots of personal preferences, and yes I play a lot.
Yes I am very pleased with my Arc, not just by the looks of it, Performance is great and par on most dualcore phones out there.
Drawbacks? Cracks appearing and chrome peeling that will show around 2 to 3 months, cracks can be serious issue to most people, it hit hard on Midnight Blue version, and rare on Misty Silver, and I chose Misty Silver because of that.
IMO Chrome peeling is not new to us, i Also had some Chrome peeling in my Previous phone.
My Arc was up for 267Hrs before i encountered a random Reboot, I think that's Normal
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mhyke13ph said:
No problem. Actually I also had my dilema choosing Arc or Play these were the phones available at that time when i was going to replace my X8, I read a lot about these phones, and their price is almost the same $520 Arc and $525 Play, but i bought the Arc instead with lots of personal preferences, and yes I play a lot.
Yes I am very pleased with my Arc, not just by the looks of it, Performance is great and par on most dualcore phones out there.
Drawbacks? Cracks appearing and chrome peeling that will show around 2 to 3 months, cracks can be serious issue to most people, it hit hard on Midnight Blue version, and rare on Misty Silver, and I chose Misty Silver because of that.
IMO Chrome peeling is not new to us, i Also had some Chrome peeling in my Previous phone.
My Arc was up for 267Hrs before i encountered a random Reboot, I think that's Normal
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OMG! Im also looking to replace my x8! HA
Hmmm... I want to buy the midnight blue.. Silver doesnt look that great but the cracks are a problem.... Guess ill decide that when I go to buy it..
Do you regret not buying the Play? Or would you choose the arc over the play again? Also, what games do you play? HD? And are they completely lagless?
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OMG! Im also looking to replace my x8! HA
Hmmm... I want to buy the midnight blue.. Silver doesnt look that great but the cracks are a problem.... Guess ill decide that when I go to buy it..
Do you regret not buying the Play? Or would you choose the arc over the play again? Also, what games do you play? HD? And are they completely lagless?
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Oh yea you should replace that X8, too bad X8 was a great contender last year for Mid Range phones, but they didn't supported it well and it's like a Dead on Arrival Phone
Here is my Personal Youtube Channel
It Includes Unboxing, Quick Review(No voice though, Im Shy ) and lots of GAMES! Please Rate and Share too
I only encounter Lags when playing Asphalt 6, maybe because this game is not for Arc, and because this game is for Xperia Play Optimised, but still playable and it rarely lags.
If i could own Both that would be nice
Hmm.. Have you overclocked? Or it lags a little on stock rom with 1Ghz default clock
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Hmm.. Have you overclocked? Or it lags a little on stock rom with 1Ghz default clock
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No, I stayed on Stock Rom 2.3.3 and No Root , Still waiting for a Rootable 2.3.3 or 2.3.4 when time comes
Xperia Play Handles Games and Task very well because it is the only phone out there that uses a dual channel DDR2 memory working at 300 Hertz, that Improves Performances a lot and can perform Heavy Task.
Thats why Playing games on Play is Optimised and stayed @ 60FPS Refresh Rate.
One Very Big Pro for Xplay
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I think you forget to mention that play does not support Brave Engine and i think both device has pretty good sound too. Just get to the store and try it.
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The play has bravia engine since doomlord ported it
IMO the Play and the Arc are both excellent devices. But they are aimed at two totally diffrent markets. The Play has been heavly optimised for playing games. (stereo speakers, dual channel ddr2 memory). But unless you intend to play alot of games on your phone, i see no reason to buy a play over an Arc. I love playing games on my play. And could never go back to touchscreen games now
If you want to game a lot --> Play is for you because of the controla
If you want to use it as a normal smartphone, texting, browsing, gaming sometimes Arc is the way to go imo.
I don't regret getting my Arc and it's fast @ 1GHz but of course it's even snappier @ 1.2GHz
Mine midnight blue Arc has the crack but it's not that visable (most of my friends don't see it, even if you say them there's a crack).
Arc rocks, but both devices are great.
Day to day performance should be exactly the same on Arc and Play due same specs and same using experience.
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Actually I Play a lot but I did chose Arc over Play because of these Factors
>Size
>Weight
>Screen Size
>Screen Brightness
>Clear Black Panel
>Bravia Engine
>8MP Exmor R
>HD Recording
>HDMI Port(Bonus for Me)
>Style
Over
>PS Controls with Touch pads
>Stereo Speakers
>Exclusive Games and PS Suite
>Dual DDR2 Memory Channel
>Front Facing Camera
Put Those Arc Features in Play, I will choose Play Anytime
They could easily put some of those features and make Play as their Flagship phone?
Just Imagine All those Arc Features(not the Size and Weight) in Play
Those of you who have the play- (AndroHero I think)
Will the play be able to support PSP and PS2 games? Its my biggest concern about the Play. I saw a video on youtube - Modern warfare for xperia play. I know it was fake but the graphics :O:O:O:O:O:O Will the play ever actually be able to do that? Or will there most probably be a play 2 that will..?
My conclusion (so far) - The Play's gaming controls make it an ultimate portable gaming experience and you can thrash other players in online/multiplayer FPS games. The DDR2 RAM eliminates the lags that you very very rarely see on an xperia arc. And you get a tiny not-very-good front camera that Ill never use. The games can be played on both devices extremely well. Day to day performance is the same.
So...
Camera (really awesome cam) vs gaming controls.
Great.. Im exactly where I started out :/
Thanks all for the help More opinions always welcome. Im begging for them actually... It'll be my first high end android and I dont want to regret buying it or later thinking damn I should have bought the <insert name of what I didnt buy>
Edit- how is the support for the 2 devices when it comes to custom roms, kernels, etc?
Ive searched the forums for both, theres one note-worthy kernel (doom), one FXP rom each and the play has 2 or 3 others. Are roms for the arc in progress? Or is the stock rom brilliant as it is? Sorry for the *noob* questions. But Ive done the searching and researching and I want confirmation and stuffs I didnt know. New to the forums here etc etc
Hey There I Wanna Buy A New ArcS and i have some new questions:
1.First of all i wanna say that i have a Xperia X10 And because of Lack OF It I need to change it is it a good decision to upgrade to ArcS or not!?
2.1080P Movies/Videos are Important For me So i know that ArcS got a 1.4GHz CPU that is a fast one!So if you've played 1080p movies/videos JUST tell ME!!
3.HD games are important for me as well as 1080p VideoS So i need a device that load them without any lags And i dont wanna buy a XperiaPlay Cause im gonna buy a PSvita Later!
4.Dont Tell ME About Samsung GSII Or HTC Sensetion Or 4s like"why you buy one of these they've got a Dual-Core CPUs!" Cause i have money to buy just a Xperia ArcS And Im gonna buy a Quad-Core Cell LAter!!!
I'm gonna thankful if you answer my questions! B)
the arc s connot play 1080p as far i know but it can handle 3d gaming very well
here is a list of the games that the original arc can handle http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1268128
It can play 1080 p it just can't record 1080 p and this has always been the case I don't know where you get the idea that it can't play it
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Torres77an said:
It can play 1080 p it just can't record 1080 p and this has always been the case I don't know where you get the idea that it can't play it
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How DId you played 1080p MOvieS With Stock app or another App ?
Can you name that app too?!
i am interested to buy one of these and both of them falls in the same price, i do not care abut the cam since i have a digicam to handle and i do play games but i am not a hardcore gamer, so which do you guys suggest.
please dont suggest me any other phones
good idea man
If i were you, i would buy an Arc S, or else just the Arc
If you don't feel like playing a lot of games than the Arc will just do.
You can check here for more info
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any major differences between the two
Game controlls and thickness
I'd go with Arc as it's thinner and fits better into the pocket of jeans.
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The Arc S and Arc or?
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definitely arc
mate, i would go with the arc. The arc s is not much different in my opinion from the arc (in terms of hardware) and its not really worth the price jump. i bought one for myself and my father (senior geek). im also going to upgrade my brother from x10 to arc.
iv had no trouble with it at all
I'd recommend the Xperia Arc S (LT18i).
It hasn't that much hardware changes, but in my opinion 30 $ for a better cpu and HSPA+ (Rel. 6 - 14,4 Mbit/s) is the money worth.
But you wanted to suggest Xperia Arc (LT15i) or Xperia Play (R800i), so I'd recommend the Arc, if you're not that hardcore gamer.
Hi Guyz,
I have come down to 2 phones .
My budget is 23k max .
1> SE Xperia Play
2> Galaxy R
I will be using the phone for atleast 2.5yrs until my graduation is over . This is my last investment on a phone
According to hardware specs its an obvious answer = Galaxy R
But the psp controls and the looks is pulling me towards Xperia Play .
So , Guyz plz I ask for your suggestions and thoughts .
Any other inputs regarding other mobile in that range will also help
Thanks in advance ,
abcduploader
If you mentioned the currency you use you would probably get better answers...
Well you said it yourself. The Xperia PLAY isn't as powerful, but it has a gamepad. The Galaxy R is slightly more powerful, but has no gamepad. It's up to you as to which suits you better. Personally, I think the Xperia PLAY is plenty powerful, and I love the physical gamepad. The PLAY is a bit thicker too, but that's to be expected because of its slide-out pad. If you simply want a phone that can do some other things on the side, don't get the PLAY. If you want a phone that can also easily play games, get the PLAY.
Emulators bro and old school fighting games and possibly newer ones . When you look into the android market it's like 90% games optimized for xperia play. Where do you see Galaxy R ? But that was a duche baggy marketing line.
If you Galaxy R you;'ll have a better screen, a better build quality, a better hardware set ( a bit more future proof) but you will never have the retro gaming experience the Xperia play has. Also many new games are being optimized for the play so you won't have problems for a while playing new games
Neither Xperia play nor Galaxy R
Wait for XPERIA PLAY 2
the xperia play is a good phone for emulators, gba roms etc. im planning to keep my play for a long time as i sold my psp and the let down of the sony vita.
if you just want a phone buy a average phone, if you want to play games get a play, the samsung looks great but you dont need all that hardware unless your playing games but then you lack a controller, gta3 is great on a play, abit of lag but its better than using the touch screen controls,i couldnt imagine clocking castlevania or many of my nes games with touchscreen.
23,000 Rupees indictates that the Play has not had a price reduction in India like it did in Europe. The Galaxy R is the better phone by and large, and I'd take it over the Play.
The controls are nice on the Play, shame emulators dont really support the touchpads.
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mostly in USA and UK ...
Those are the only places from where I can bring ...
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Guyz whats the best deal for xperia play (GSM) ...
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£150 from o2
Hi all, I am new here, so please go easy on me. I've had my £150 o2 (UK) branded Xperia Play for almost a year now. (although they's kindly SIM unlocked it for me for free)
With Sony now NOT providing it with ICS (One of the reason why I bought it last year! but they have gone back on their words) I am here to look for advice.
Seeing my other half's new Galaxy S3 makes me want to mess with my XP to get some ICS goodness! I have been doing some reading here and my XP has the dreaded 'Allow bootloader unlock is NO', meaning I can't unlock it myself to get the ICS (pureness ROM for example).
So my question to you out there who's done it is:
(1) Is it worth paying the $20 or something to have the bootloader unlock to then get the ICS ROM's?
(2) Or should I sell up and get an ICS compatible phone?
(3) I initially play a lot of the retro SNES games on it but am gaming on it less and less now. Is it worth keeping such a 'thick' phone just so I can play games on it occasionally?
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Hi all, I am new here, so please go easy on me. I've had my £150 o2 (UK) branded Xperia Play for almost a year now. (although they's kindly SIM unlocked it for me for free)
With Sony now NOT providing it with ICS (One of the reason why I bought it last year! but they have gone back on their words) I am here to look for advice.
Seeing my other half's new Galaxy S3 makes me want to mess with my XP to get some ICS goodness! I have been doing some reading here and my XP has the dreaded 'Allow bootloader unlock is NO', meaning I can't unlock it myself to get the ICS (pureness ROM for example).
So my question to you out there who's done it is:
(1) Is it worth paying the $20 or something to have the bootloader unlock to then get the ICS ROM's?
(2) Or should I sell up and get an ICS compatible phone?
(3) I initially play a lot of the retro SNES games on it but am gaming on it less and less now. Is it worth keeping such a 'thick' phone just so I can play games on it occasionally?
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I don't get the point of these posts.
Xperia Play has a full gamepad, galaxy s3 does not. They are two different phones.
Unlocking bootloader is worth it for the kernels and whatnot.
Sell the phone if you don't play games anymore, otherwise play with onscreen controls on the S3
If you don't play games too often anymore, why have the Play? You can connect ps3 controller to the s3 to play occasional snes games.
Sorry if I sound mean but you sound like you have already made up your mind, and if you don't play games often it is kind of pointless
Sprint Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch w/ Stock 4.0.4
Xperia Play R800X w/ supercharged stock 2.3.3 and doomkernel
jahjah440 said:
If you don't play games too often anymore, why have the Play? You can connect ps3 controller to the s3 to play occasional snes games.
Sorry if I sound mean but you sound like you have already made up your mind, and if you don't play games often it is kind of pointless
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probably he bought the phone and at the begin play a lot, but now he play less (like me)
In my opinion it depends if is better to keep your play or not: if you want a more powerful device, and now you don't play so much (and in the future you don't want restart to play) then go to s3, else keep the play
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Hi all, I am new here, so please go easy on me. I've had my £150 o2 (UK) branded Xperia Play for almost a year now. (although they's kindly SIM unlocked it for me for free)
With Sony now NOT providing it with ICS (One of the reason why I bought it last year! but they have gone back on their words) I am here to look for advice.
Seeing my other half's new Galaxy S3 makes me want to mess with my XP to get some ICS goodness! I have been doing some reading here and my XP has the dreaded 'Allow bootloader unlock is NO', meaning I can't unlock it myself to get the ICS (pureness ROM for example).
So my question to you out there who's done it is:
(1) Is it worth paying the $20 or something to have the bootloader unlock to then get the ICS ROM's?
(2) Or should I sell up and get an ICS compatible phone?
(3) I initially play a lot of the retro SNES games on it but am gaming on it less and less now. Is it worth keeping such a 'thick' phone just so I can play games on it occasionally?
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Sell it, ics+jb on the play are nowhere near as smooth as they are only dual core and quad core devices or even the devices with more ram.
XP with a good rom is still an amazing device as a gaming smartphone. It's not the best smartphone, an average one nowadays, but the overall experience can be pretty good.
Having a XP, maybe you should try how far it can goes before make a decision. Even you can flash some excellent Gingerbread roms without unlocking the bootloader. I'm sure if you try NXT 1.3 you won't miss the stock firmware and your user experience will improve greatly: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25988643&postcount=2
If you try NXT 1.3, and you like it, you must know there's more room to improve your XP. Unlocking the bootloader you can replace the kernel to speed up the CPU, undervolt it for better battery life and use a more optimized CPU governor. And the final goal could be the Markphyton's Unofficial ICS which in a few days will be the ICS experience Sony didn't deliver to us, or even better.
But if gaming is no more an important feature for you...
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probably he bought the phone and at the begin play a lot, but now he play less (like me)
In my opinion it depends if is better to keep your play or not: if you want a more powerful device, and now you don't play so much (and in the future you don't want restart to play) then go to s3, else keep the play
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Yes, if his gaming interest has weaned over time, why stay with a underpowered phone when you can get a phone that is 2x as fast
Sprint Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch w/ Stock 4.0.4
Xperia Play R800X w/ supercharged stock 2.3.3 and doomkernel
You can install ICS unofficially.
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Keep the play and buy another phone for daily use. Why do you have to get rid of the play if you get a new phone? Gaming on a touch screen only phone sucks when the games were designed for real controls.
I can`t see what could be wrong in having a play and another phone. I have both the Xperia Play and a Galaxy S3 and I love them both for their own reasons.
Thanks all for the feedback, I might try bootloader unlock with different ROM to see how I get on first.
Thanks again for the comments.