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Hello!
Please tell me which games are there which I can't play on ARC while I can on PLAY?
Please name such games if you can.
I am about to buy any one of these tommorrow, and don't know which to prefer; here is a little comparison, please correct me if I am wrong and also mention something I might have missed;
ARC :
Great body design
Great body material
Great Camera
Poor sound
No gaming Pad
Larger Screen
Not so good Web experience
Not so good Touch Interface
Radio
PLAY :
Average body design
Poor body material
Average Camera
Great sound
Gaming Pad
Average Screen
Great Web Experience
Great Touch experience
No Radio
Also tell me is there any difference between them as far as the user experience is concerned, I mean any application or function or anything that ARC has and Play don't or vice versa?
How much do they differ as far as the browsing experience is concerned?
So far Arc is winning, I guess, but now it all depends upon the games. That's is why I am contacting you all. I mean I am interested in Star Battalion and Asphalt (which from what I know can be played on ARC), and not much interested in Crash Bandicot.
Please reply soon.
Thanks in advance.
Can you tell me why you think the play has better web experience then the arc I think the specs of the same are they not ?
Torres77an said:
Can you tell me why you think the play has better web experience then the arc I think the specs of the same are they not ?
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I've never had a problem with the web experience on the arc .
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Can you tell me why you think the play has better web experience then the arc I think the specs of the same are they not ?
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Hello!
I don't know really.
I guess I got the impression from the fact that SE's official site says that PLAY is a great web experience on top of great gaming experience. And also from a video which showcased some downsides of ARC's browser versus that of IPhone 4 but couldn't find any video doing the same for PLAY.
I have to Disagree on some of your Points there on Arc
Poor sound
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You must not say POOR in General because for a Single Loud Speaker Arc Speaker is One of the Best out there, Dont' compare Single to Stereo Speaker, but Yes Xperia Play's Speaker is The Best Speakers on Mobile Phone out there.
Not so good Web experience
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Of course Bigger screen means Better Web Experience IMHO, I don't see why Arc will not do better than Play?
Not so good Touch Interface
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All Xperia right now have The Same Excellent Touch Interface, but Most Xperia's out there are Applied with Shatter Proof Sheet on a Mineral Glass that protects the screen, that could slightly decreases Touch Performance
IMO Both Phones are Great except they are focused on Different markets
Arc as the Camera/Video Stylish Phone and Play as the Gaming Phone Equipped with Superb PS controls and LOUD Stereo Speakers
but overall Experience is Great
You can also visit my youtube channel to see Arc in Action for Games
Arc Youtube Video's
I think you forget to mention that play does not support Brave Engine and i think both device has pretty good sound too. Just get to the store and try it.
Hey lol im facing the exact same crisis! I've kinda decided on the arc. Some of your points are not true mate. The arc web browsing is better. What the play has that the arc doesn't are the dedicated gaming controls and stereo speakers. By no means are the arc speakers bad. Don't pay much attention to the SE website.. they promote their phones as much as they can. For the xperia x8 they say access to thousands of apps on the market. That doesn't mean the androids don't lol. Arc has a brilliant camera, based on personal usage better than the N8 I don't know how.. 12mp vs 8 and even the owner of the N8 reluctantly admitted the arc camera was better. Arc has the exmor sensor and BRAVIA engine while play has no sensor, but has a BRAVIA port. Doesn't Work that great imho. Very little difference. Also keep in mind though that in bright light, bravia might not be good. It overdoes things sometimes and you can't turn it off. I'd love some feedback to this thread from arc owners, IV already got some from play owners. I think I'm gonna go with the arc cos I'm not a hardcore gamer and the arc screen is big enough to support touch controls on normal android games. Fpse can be a problem but I doubt I'll ever use it. Also, I doubt the play can support ps2 and psp games.. so I'm reluctant to get one. There may or may not be any exclusive games being released for it.. would be a HUGE disappointment to play owners. When it comes to custom roms and kernels, it appears the play has a bit more support I assume.. this is just my 2 cents.. would value other opinions very much.
Edit- arc touch interface is awesome. It's bloody brilliant. And it can detect more that 2 fingers simultaneously. Only negative point I have about the arc- in SOME models, hairline cracks appear in the housing. Just google it. It's quite rare.. and you won't notice it in most cases. If this doesn't bother you, it's fine. It doesn't affect performance or anything at all. It wouldn't bother me.. I wouldn't even notice lol. Yea.. thats my 2 cents.
price is a constant too, the arc is cheaper
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Hey lol im facing the exact same crisis! I've kinda decided on the arc. Some of your points are not true mate. The arc web browsing is better. What the play has that the arc doesn't are the dedicated gaming controls and stereo speakers. By no means are the arc speakers bad. Don't pay much attention to the SE website.. they promote their phones as much as they can. For the xperia x8 they say access to thousands of apps on the market. That doesn't mean the androids don't lol. Arc has a brilliant camera, based on personal usage better than the N8 I don't know how.. 12mp vs 8 and even the owner of the N8 reluctantly admitted the arc camera was better. Arc has the exmor sensor and BRAVIA engine while play has no sensor, but has a BRAVIA port. Doesn't Work that great imho. Very little difference. Also keep in mind though that in bright light, bravia might not be good. It overdoes things sometimes and you can't turn it off. I'd love some feedback to this thread from arc owners, IV already got some from play owners. I think I'm gonna go with the arc cos I'm not a hardcore gamer and the arc screen is big enough to support touch controls on normal android games. Fpse can be a problem but I doubt I'll ever use it. Also, I doubt the play can support ps2 and psp games.. so I'm reluctant to get one. There may or may not be any exclusive games being released for it.. would be a HUGE disappointment to play owners. When it comes to custom roms and kernels, it appears the play has a bit more support I assume.. this is just my 2 cents.. would value other opinions very much.
Edit- arc touch interface is awesome. It's bloody brilliant. And it can detect more that 2 fingers simultaneously. Only negative point I have about the arc- in SOME models, hairline cracks appear in the housing. Just google it. It's quite rare.. and you won't notice it in most cases. If this doesn't bother you, it's fine. It doesn't affect performance or anything at all. It wouldn't bother me.. I wouldn't even notice lol. Yea.. thats my 2 cents.
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You can Turn Off Bravia Engine in the Display Settings
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You can Turn Off Bravia Engine in the Display Settings
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Thanks! Did not know that
Hmmm.... are you satisfied with your arc? Any main advantages/disadvantages?
About price - the arc came out at a significantly increased price when compared to the play. However, prices around now are the same. (In my country at least)
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Thanks! Did not know that
Hmmm.... are you satisfied with your arc? Any main advantages/disadvantages?
About price - the arc came out at a significantly increased price when compared to the play. However, prices around now are the same. (In my country at least)
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No problem. Actually I also had my dilema choosing Arc or Play these were the phones available at that time when i was going to replace my X8, I read a lot about these phones, and their price is almost the same $520 Arc and $525 Play, but i bought the Arc instead with lots of personal preferences, and yes I play a lot.
Yes I am very pleased with my Arc, not just by the looks of it, Performance is great and par on most dualcore phones out there.
Drawbacks? Cracks appearing and chrome peeling that will show around 2 to 3 months, cracks can be serious issue to most people, it hit hard on Midnight Blue version, and rare on Misty Silver, and I chose Misty Silver because of that.
IMO Chrome peeling is not new to us, i Also had some Chrome peeling in my Previous phone.
My Arc was up for 267Hrs before i encountered a random Reboot, I think that's Normal
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mhyke13ph said:
No problem. Actually I also had my dilema choosing Arc or Play these were the phones available at that time when i was going to replace my X8, I read a lot about these phones, and their price is almost the same $520 Arc and $525 Play, but i bought the Arc instead with lots of personal preferences, and yes I play a lot.
Yes I am very pleased with my Arc, not just by the looks of it, Performance is great and par on most dualcore phones out there.
Drawbacks? Cracks appearing and chrome peeling that will show around 2 to 3 months, cracks can be serious issue to most people, it hit hard on Midnight Blue version, and rare on Misty Silver, and I chose Misty Silver because of that.
IMO Chrome peeling is not new to us, i Also had some Chrome peeling in my Previous phone.
My Arc was up for 267Hrs before i encountered a random Reboot, I think that's Normal
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OMG! Im also looking to replace my x8! HA
Hmmm... I want to buy the midnight blue.. Silver doesnt look that great but the cracks are a problem.... Guess ill decide that when I go to buy it..
Do you regret not buying the Play? Or would you choose the arc over the play again? Also, what games do you play? HD? And are they completely lagless?
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OMG! Im also looking to replace my x8! HA
Hmmm... I want to buy the midnight blue.. Silver doesnt look that great but the cracks are a problem.... Guess ill decide that when I go to buy it..
Do you regret not buying the Play? Or would you choose the arc over the play again? Also, what games do you play? HD? And are they completely lagless?
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Oh yea you should replace that X8, too bad X8 was a great contender last year for Mid Range phones, but they didn't supported it well and it's like a Dead on Arrival Phone
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It Includes Unboxing, Quick Review(No voice though, Im Shy ) and lots of GAMES! Please Rate and Share too
I only encounter Lags when playing Asphalt 6, maybe because this game is not for Arc, and because this game is for Xperia Play Optimised, but still playable and it rarely lags.
If i could own Both that would be nice
Hmm.. Have you overclocked? Or it lags a little on stock rom with 1Ghz default clock
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Hmm.. Have you overclocked? Or it lags a little on stock rom with 1Ghz default clock
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No, I stayed on Stock Rom 2.3.3 and No Root , Still waiting for a Rootable 2.3.3 or 2.3.4 when time comes
Xperia Play Handles Games and Task very well because it is the only phone out there that uses a dual channel DDR2 memory working at 300 Hertz, that Improves Performances a lot and can perform Heavy Task.
Thats why Playing games on Play is Optimised and stayed @ 60FPS Refresh Rate.
One Very Big Pro for Xplay
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I think you forget to mention that play does not support Brave Engine and i think both device has pretty good sound too. Just get to the store and try it.
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The play has bravia engine since doomlord ported it
IMO the Play and the Arc are both excellent devices. But they are aimed at two totally diffrent markets. The Play has been heavly optimised for playing games. (stereo speakers, dual channel ddr2 memory). But unless you intend to play alot of games on your phone, i see no reason to buy a play over an Arc. I love playing games on my play. And could never go back to touchscreen games now
If you want to game a lot --> Play is for you because of the controla
If you want to use it as a normal smartphone, texting, browsing, gaming sometimes Arc is the way to go imo.
I don't regret getting my Arc and it's fast @ 1GHz but of course it's even snappier @ 1.2GHz
Mine midnight blue Arc has the crack but it's not that visable (most of my friends don't see it, even if you say them there's a crack).
Arc rocks, but both devices are great.
Day to day performance should be exactly the same on Arc and Play due same specs and same using experience.
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Actually I Play a lot but I did chose Arc over Play because of these Factors
>Size
>Weight
>Screen Size
>Screen Brightness
>Clear Black Panel
>Bravia Engine
>8MP Exmor R
>HD Recording
>HDMI Port(Bonus for Me)
>Style
Over
>PS Controls with Touch pads
>Stereo Speakers
>Exclusive Games and PS Suite
>Dual DDR2 Memory Channel
>Front Facing Camera
Put Those Arc Features in Play, I will choose Play Anytime
They could easily put some of those features and make Play as their Flagship phone?
Just Imagine All those Arc Features(not the Size and Weight) in Play
Those of you who have the play- (AndroHero I think)
Will the play be able to support PSP and PS2 games? Its my biggest concern about the Play. I saw a video on youtube - Modern warfare for xperia play. I know it was fake but the graphics :O:O:O:O:O:O Will the play ever actually be able to do that? Or will there most probably be a play 2 that will..?
My conclusion (so far) - The Play's gaming controls make it an ultimate portable gaming experience and you can thrash other players in online/multiplayer FPS games. The DDR2 RAM eliminates the lags that you very very rarely see on an xperia arc. And you get a tiny not-very-good front camera that Ill never use. The games can be played on both devices extremely well. Day to day performance is the same.
So...
Camera (really awesome cam) vs gaming controls.
Great.. Im exactly where I started out :/
Thanks all for the help More opinions always welcome. Im begging for them actually... It'll be my first high end android and I dont want to regret buying it or later thinking damn I should have bought the <insert name of what I didnt buy>
Edit- how is the support for the 2 devices when it comes to custom roms, kernels, etc?
Ive searched the forums for both, theres one note-worthy kernel (doom), one FXP rom each and the play has 2 or 3 others. Are roms for the arc in progress? Or is the stock rom brilliant as it is? Sorry for the *noob* questions. But Ive done the searching and researching and I want confirmation and stuffs I didnt know. New to the forums here etc etc
Hi Guyz,
I have come down to 2 phones .
My budget is 23k max .
1> SE Xperia Play
2> Galaxy R
I will be using the phone for atleast 2.5yrs until my graduation is over . This is my last investment on a phone
According to hardware specs its an obvious answer = Galaxy R
But the psp controls and the looks is pulling me towards Xperia Play .
So , Guyz plz I ask for your suggestions and thoughts .
Any other inputs regarding other mobile in that range will also help
Thanks in advance ,
abcduploader
If you mentioned the currency you use you would probably get better answers...
Well you said it yourself. The Xperia PLAY isn't as powerful, but it has a gamepad. The Galaxy R is slightly more powerful, but has no gamepad. It's up to you as to which suits you better. Personally, I think the Xperia PLAY is plenty powerful, and I love the physical gamepad. The PLAY is a bit thicker too, but that's to be expected because of its slide-out pad. If you simply want a phone that can do some other things on the side, don't get the PLAY. If you want a phone that can also easily play games, get the PLAY.
Emulators bro and old school fighting games and possibly newer ones . When you look into the android market it's like 90% games optimized for xperia play. Where do you see Galaxy R ? But that was a duche baggy marketing line.
If you Galaxy R you;'ll have a better screen, a better build quality, a better hardware set ( a bit more future proof) but you will never have the retro gaming experience the Xperia play has. Also many new games are being optimized for the play so you won't have problems for a while playing new games
Neither Xperia play nor Galaxy R
Wait for XPERIA PLAY 2
the xperia play is a good phone for emulators, gba roms etc. im planning to keep my play for a long time as i sold my psp and the let down of the sony vita.
if you just want a phone buy a average phone, if you want to play games get a play, the samsung looks great but you dont need all that hardware unless your playing games but then you lack a controller, gta3 is great on a play, abit of lag but its better than using the touch screen controls,i couldnt imagine clocking castlevania or many of my nes games with touchscreen.
23,000 Rupees indictates that the Play has not had a price reduction in India like it did in Europe. The Galaxy R is the better phone by and large, and I'd take it over the Play.
The controls are nice on the Play, shame emulators dont really support the touchpads.
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mostly in USA and UK ...
Those are the only places from where I can bring ...
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Guyz whats the best deal for xperia play (GSM) ...
mostly in USA and UK ...
Those are the only places from where I can bring ...
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£150 from o2
Hi Gamers !
does anyone has any problem about sony's promises ?!?!
- ICS ?
- PSP gmes ??
- sony's exclusive games ??
- xperia play 2 ?? when we should have high end xperia play , not doual core , i'm talking about quad core , tegra 3 ...
- i this nesseccry for u to buy xperia play2 or waiting for that ? , or thats better to move on galaxy s3 with a gamepad ??
cause xperia play = nothing special ( till now )
- why sony do not use it's game exprience ??!?!!!
i really like my xperia play , but i just bought that because of sony , cause i'm gamer , like you , we need sony's game , not F*** gameloft global game ...
Pretty sure the only thing you listed that was ever actually promised is that we get ICS...
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Pretty sure the only thing you listed that was ever actually promised is that we get ICS...
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Yep. PSP games aren't even possible hardware wise. About 10x the power of the original system is needed to emulate the games on a computer.
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Some Psp games were actually promised.
mehdi.moha said:
Hi Gamers !
does anyone has any problem about sony's promises ?!?!
- ICS ?
- PSP gmes ??
- sony's exclusive games ??
- xperia play 2 ?? when we should have high end xperia play , not doual core , i'm talking about quad core , tegra 3 ...
- i this nesseccry for u to buy xperia play2 or waiting for that ? , or thats better to move on galaxy s3 with a gamepad ??
cause xperia play = nothing special ( till now )
- why sony do not use it's game exprience ??!?!!!
i really like my xperia play , but i just bought that because of sony , cause i'm gamer , like you , we need sony's game , not F*** gameloft global game ...
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Sony hasn't backed out on any of its promises yet.
1)Sony's still on track for ICS , they said at the end of may/early June.
2)Sony have never promised they would put any psp games on the xperia play although we do have loco roco. They said the playstation suite would come which may have psp games - this will be released in an update - they did not give us a date of when this would happen so they have not broken any promises.
3)There's plenty of Xperia exclusive games, virtua tennis,fifa 12,Lode runner etc etc.
4)Sony has never said they would make an xperia play 2.
5)Please move onto the galaxy s3, you're nothing but a nuisance in this forum, constantly asking for psp games,xperia play 2's etc.
6)Sony does use its "game experience" as the playstation emulator wouldn't be possible without it.
Finally, its your fault for buying a phone without reading up on it, Sony don't owe you anything.
Edit- Urgh thanked him accidentally while clicking quote -_-.
I find it kind of ironic that people play on gaming centric phone and handle it as "playstation phone" while they care and demand high end specs when playstation 3 is pretty low spec'd in todays market
Consoles have never been beasts in graphical category.ö
But I think its pretty obvious, we have the base for Xplay so it doesnt cost so much and isnt "delayed" in terms of specs, we also can speculate that next Xplay will be released when the hardware is mature enough to emulate PSP and PS2 games.
I dont remember that sony ever promised PSP games, you can expect them to release PSP games at same timespan as any orher Top quality AAA PSP games would be released. Portting is essentialy recreating majority of the code for new platform.
mehdi.moha said:
Hi Gamers !
does anyone has any problem about sony's promises ?!?!
- ICS ?
- PSP gmes ??
- sony's exclusive games ??
- xperia play 2 ?? when we should have high end xperia play , not doual core , i'm talking about quad core , tegra 3 ...
- i this nesseccry for u to buy xperia play2 or waiting for that ? , or thats better to move on galaxy s3 with a gamepad ??
cause xperia play = nothing special ( till now )
- why sony do not use it's game exprience ??!?!!!
i really like my xperia play , but i just bought that because of sony , cause i'm gamer , like you , we need sony's game , not F*** gameloft global game ...
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Every time I see a stupid post like this I know right away who it is
mehdi.moha said:
Hi Gamers !
does anyone has any problem about sony's promises ?!?!
- ICS ?
- PSP gmes ??
- sony's exclusive games ??
- xperia play 2 ?? when we should have high end xperia play , not doual core , i'm talking about quad core , tegra 3 ...
- i this nesseccry for u to buy xperia play2 or waiting for that ? , or thats better to move on galaxy s3 with a gamepad ??
cause xperia play = nothing special ( till now )
- why sony do not use it's game exprience ??!?!!!
i really like my xperia play , but i just bought that because of sony , cause i'm gamer , like you , we need sony's game , not F*** gameloft global game ...
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Did you forget to mention your HDMI?
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Another dumb post by mehdi.moha
ICS is the only promised thing as well as playstation integration both of which are on their way.... If you ask me sony is making the same mistakes sega did they dont offer enough games for their hardware the most successful console ever was probably the ps2 and that was because it offered backwards compatibility so you had the new awesome games and the old ones. Personally I think that before they made the play they should have already ported psp games and ps1 games and a few ps2 games and then also there would have been xperia play optimised games.
As for the xperia play 2 sony has adamently said there are no plans! NONE. But it is likely that they will eventually make a new one.
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Every time I see a stupid post like this I know right away who it is
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I totally agree lol EVERY time makes me wanna play mortal combat and play the fire dude...
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Here's a thought. I myself find his posts and threads completely pointless, offer no value and are just complaints about everything. Here is what people should do who find his posts worthless. Don't reply. I don't. And I'm only reply to tell people this. I know whenever he posts a comment on my threads its nothing b!itching about something unrelated to my thread and he has even gone on to tell me in my thread that he "doesn't care". Everyone has the right to an opinion but it doesn't mean we have to add fuel to the fire and respond. Ignore it and move on. I do. For users who enjoy the xperia plays move on to other useful and enjoyable threads/posts. For those who are unhappy in their decision of buying this (awesome) phone then follow this guy. But for the love of Barney the purple dinosaur get another phone if you are not happy and save other users the annoyance of seeing constant pointless negative posts by userssuch as these. I know this is long. So...rant done. Now...lets go play some games and have fun.
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mehdi.moha said:
- ICS ?
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You should know that ICS is officially announced for end of may/beginnig of June. We are at 13th of May...
mehdi.moha said:
- PSP gmes ??
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Sony Ericsson never promised PSP games for the XPeria Play. NEVER. Stop thinking the Xperia Play will be a PSP + phone just because it looks like a PSP Go.
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- sony's exclusive games ??
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Sony Ericsson paid for some temporary and optimized exclusives (Minecraft POcket Edition for example).
mehdi.moha said:
- xperia play 2 ?? when we should have high end xperia play , not doual core , i'm talking about quad core , tegra 3 ...
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Xperia Play 2??? The Xperia Play 1 has aprox. 1 year of life! You already want another one? Stop using the mobiles as things for being used a short time. A mobile should have 3 years of use, not less of one. Do you know how much natural resources are needed to make a mobile??? Stop being so materialistic!
Before buying your Xperia Play you should had informed about what hardware it has, now don't cry because it hasn't got dual core, more RAM, etc. Learn to enjoy what you have!
mehdi.moha said:
- i this nesseccry for u to buy xperia play2 or waiting for that ? , or thats better to move on galaxy s3 with a gamepad ??
cause xperia play = nothing special ( till now )
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Xperia Play = Nothing special??? A mobile phone with a gamepad for playing games anywhere? What other device has anything similar??? The Xperia Play may not be the perfect mobile device, but please, don't you dare to say it is nothing special, because is one of the most original mobile phone out there...
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- why sony do not use it's game exprience ??!?!!!
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You are confusing two different compannies: Sony Ericsson (SE) and Sony Computer Entertainment (SCE). Son Ericsson is the one that made the Xperia Play while Sony Computer Entertainment just helped on its developing (the gaming controls, apps like Playstation Suite, etc.). This means it is NOT a console, it is a mobile that allows to play mobile games more comfortably with its game controls. The "Playstation Certified" logo is just an accessory that promises that this device will recieve the Playstation Suite and SOME content from the Playstation Store.
I hate like you companies like Gameloft, but think a bit, you seriously think that big gaming companies (Square Enix, Capcom, etc.) will make an super exclusive title like (for example) a Final Fantasy or a Kingdom Hearts for a device that not so much people have (in comparison with a portable console like the N3DS or the PSVita)? Do you know how much money would they lose?
That's why you don't see super-duper exclusive games like in a console, because the money and because its not a damn console!!!
BUT
You are wrong if you think SCE is not helping with its long experience in the gaming industry. If you would had been more informed you would know about the Playstation Suite Software Developer Kit (SDK), wich is already in open beta since a month ago. This SDK will allow companies and users to create exclusive content to all devices that have the Playstation Certified seal (the PSVita, the Xperia Play, and the two Sony tablets, for now). Isn't this helping with game experience???
Link for more info about the PS Suite SDK: http://www.playstation.com/pss/developer/index_e.html
Think a bit before saying all these things, know what you buy and learn to enjoy it.
Couldn't have said it better. BAM.... right in the nose
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jgregoryj1 said:
Here's a thought. I myself find his posts and threads completely pointless, offer no value and are just complaints about everything. Here is what people should do who find his posts worthless. Don't reply. I don't. And I'm only reply to tell people this. I know whenever he posts a comment on my threads its nothing b!itching about something unrelated to my thread and he has even gone on to tell me in my thread that he "doesn't care". Everyone has the right to an opinion but it doesn't mean we have to add fuel to the fire and respond. Ignore it and move on. I do. For users who enjoy the xperia plays move on to other useful and enjoyable threads/posts. For those who are unhappy in their decision of buying this (awesome) phone then follow this guy. But for the love of Barney the purple dinosaur get another phone if you are not happy and save other users the annoyance of seeing constant pointless negative posts by userssuch as these. I know this is long. So...rant done. Now...lets go play some games and have fun.
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Ya its just SO HARD because he is such a colossal JACKASS
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mehdi.moha said:
Hi Gamers !
does anyone has any problem about sony's promises ?!?!
- ICS ?
- PSP gmes ??
- sony's exclusive games ??
- xperia play 2 ?? when we should have high end xperia play , not doual core , i'm talking about quad core , tegra 3 ...
- i this nesseccry for u to buy xperia play2 or waiting for that ? , or thats better to move on galaxy s3 with a gamepad ??
cause xperia play = nothing special ( till now )
- why sony do not use it's game exprience ??!?!!!
i really like my xperia play , but i just bought that because of sony , cause i'm gamer , like you , we need sony's game , not F*** gameloft global game ...
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Oh wow! Buddy you really need to get over the psp emulation and xperia play 2, if you want to complain send it to sony instead of starting more bulls*it threads about this!!!!! Every time you open a thread its to either complain about something that isn't even real or you have problems that you want everybody else to try and fix for you! Sell the damn thing if your not happy with it geez you would be doing ALL of us a huge favor by not being around here. A mod should have this guy banned!
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Miles Wolf said:
You should know that ICS is officially announced for end of may/beginnig of June. We are at 13th of May...
Sony Ericsson never promised PSP games for the XPeria Play. NEVER. Stop thinking the Xperia Play will be a PSP + phone just because it looks like a PSP Go.
Sony Ericsson paid for some temporary and optimized exclusives (Minecraft POcket Edition for example).
Xperia Play 2??? The Xperia Play 1 has aprox. 1 year of life! You already want another one? Stop using the mobiles as things for being used a short time. A mobile should have 3 years of use, not less of one. Do you know how much natural resources are needed to make a mobile??? Stop being so materialistic!
Before buying your Xperia Play you should had informed about what hardware it has, now don't cry because it hasn't got dual core, more RAM, etc. Learn to enjoy what you have!
Xperia Play = Nothing special??? A mobile phone with a gamepad for playing games anywhere? What other device has anything similar??? The Xperia Play may not be the perfect mobile device, but please, don't you dare to say it is nothing special, because is one of the most original mobile phone out there...
You are confusing two different compannies: Sony Ericsson (SE) and Sony Computer Entertainment (SCE). Son Ericsson is the one that made the Xperia Play while Sony Computer Entertainment just helped on its developing (the gaming controls, apps like Playstation Suite, etc.). This means it is NOT a console, it is a mobile that allows to play mobile games more comfortably with its game controls. The "Playstation Certified" logo is just an accessory that promises that this device will recieve the Playstation Suite and SOME content from the Playstation Store.
I hate like you companies like Gameloft, but think a bit, you seriously think that big gaming companies (Square Enix, Capcom, etc.) will make an super exclusive title like (for example) a Final Fantasy or a Kingdom Hearts for a device that not so much people have (in comparison with a portable console like the N3DS or the PSVita)? Do you know how much money would they lose?
That's why you don't see super-duper exclusive games like in a console, because the money and because its not a damn console!!!
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You are wrong if you think SCE is not helping with its long experience in the gaming industry. If you would had been more informed you would know about the Playstation Suite Software Developer Kit (SDK), wich is already in open beta since a month ago. This SDK will allow companies and users to create exclusive content to all devices that have the Playstation Certified seal (the PSVita, the Xperia Play, and the two Sony tablets, for now). Isn't this helping with game experience???
Link for more info about the PS Suite SDK: http://www.playstation.com/pss/developer/index_e.html
Think a bit before saying all these things, know what you buy and learn to enjoy it.
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ok ! thank you "milles wolf" , YOU PROVIDED THE BEST ANSWER .
Install OnLive and quit crying over games. I'm merrily playing AC:Revelations on mine right now.
AdyCarter said:
Install OnLive and quit crying over games. I'm merrily playing AC:Revelations on mine right now.
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How do you activate eagle vision?
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With difficulty unless Im using the Wireless Pad.
I mainly run around collecting **** in the AC games via my phone due to the L3/R3 annoyances, Brotherhood and 2 work fine though.
AdyCarter said:
Install OnLive and quit crying over games. I'm merrily playing AC:Revelations on mine right now.
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thank you too
Im considering buying the phone, im coming from an old ****ty blackberry. All I want to do is:
1) Make phonecalls
2) Be able to play games properly (touchscreen gaming is retarded). I want emulators (SNES, Megadrive, Neogeo, PSX...) and some ports from classic game like DoomGLES or the Duke Nukem 3D one.
3) No need to carry a Gametel/similar device and attach it in your phone everytime you want to play/detach it everytime you want to put it back to your pocket
The only 2 problems i have with the phone:
1) Carmageddon is the most hardware demanding game I want to play. I love this game so I want smooth gameplay. I was about to buy the device when I saw this video:
youtube dot com/watch?v=1Mrbrk8MU_Q
The performance is **** (20fps) even if it's OCd to 1.5 (I dont want to OC a smartphone to consume more battery life).
The weird thing is, i've heard some people saying it plays smooth on their Xperia Play even at stock speed, which is really weird. Anyone that has an Xperia Play can test the game and ideally upload a video? (it may be smooth for you in that video, but for me it's crap)
Also I would like if someone can confirm if the controls work using GameKeyboard.
Here is a free demo:
play dot google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.stainlessgames.carmageddonfree&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5zdGFpbmxlc3NnYW1lcy5jYXJtYWdlZGRvbmZyZWUiXQ
Here is the full version if you want to buy it:
play dot google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.stainlessgames.carmageddon&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5zdGFpbmxlc3NnYW1lcy5jYXJtYWdlZGRvbiJd
Here is GameKeyboard:
play dot google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.locnet.gamekeyboard&hl=en
2) The second problem I have is, im not sure if the screen of this device is good enough. On this video comparation, it looks pretty crappy next to the Galaxy S3:
youtube dot com/watch?v=siCskfSR8dc
The colours look so off. Also, you guys experiencie problems when trying to use it outdoors? (reflections, sun etc...) I remember with the original PSP, it was pretty useless outdoors.
Also, I discovered this device recently:
youtube dot com/watch?v=fI-5lzYeWpY
This could be an Xperia Play killer. The only reason to get an Xperia Play is for the sliding attached gamepad, the rest is outdated, but finally someone got this right and made a gamepad that is attached to the actual phone and you don't need to remove it everytime you want to put the phone on your pocket. The problem is, it's for the Iphone, we don't even know when it will be out for Android and what devices they will be supporting, and we don't know if it will be useable with emulators, ports and third party stuff with gamekeyboard or it will be locked to a certain list of ****ty modern games.
Thanks
Help please, is just too confusing. Some people are saying "yeah, it works perfect". Then on that video, it works really bad.
The play is good for everything you wanted but you are right its limited by hardware so newer games won't work so well on it
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abdel12345 said:
The play is good for everything you wanted but you are right its limited by hardware so newer games won't work so well on it
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But please, can you guys that own Xperia Play download and test the game for me? it's free:
www.play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.stainlessgames.carmageddonfree&feat ure=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5zdGFpb mxlc3NnYW1lcy5jYXJtYWdlZGRvbmZyZWUiXQ
Im really confused, because some people say the game is smooth (for me, smooth is 60 fps) but this guy as tried it with the Xperia Play overclocked to 1.5ghz and it goes sometimes to 12 or so fps during crashes, it really sucks.
If the Xperia Play can play this game smoothly then I will buy it, if not, im not really sure what im going to do. I may wait for Bladepad to come out for android, so I pick up a S3 for a good price + this:
This could be the Xperia Play killer. Imagine the hardware of the S3/S4/Nexus + sliding pad. But im not sure when it will come out for Android, if it will be useable for non officially supported games... etc.
Ill test it for you. It could he laggy for that fit if yes using a ics or jelly bean rom. Im using gb so ill test it
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Sorry can't test the game is for $1.84. Its not free.
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abdel12345 said:
Ill test it for you. It could he laggy for that fit if yes using a ics or jelly bean rom. Im using gb so ill test it
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Sorry can't test the game is for $1.84. Its not free.
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Try this link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.stainlessgames.carmageddonfree&feat+ure=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5zdGFpb%20mxlc3NnYW1lcy5jYXJtYWdlZGRvbmZyZWUiXQ
Addicted2boobs said:
Try this link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...5zdGFpb mxlc3NnYW1lcy5jYXJtYWdlZGRvbmZyZWUiXQ
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Ok that link worked im going to test it as soon as it downloads the 80 mb and then ill tell you how it goes
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Ok the game was laggy at stock clock bit overclocked to 1.4 ghz min. 249 with gin2jellybean rom it ran at a pretty playable speed but id say to be better of with a newer phone because there is still some slight lag at some points like when another cast hits you. But id say its still worth it just for the awesome emulators since all of them work great and there's even a psp emulator with some games that are playable. If you can find one at a reasonable price like 50-100 dollars id say you should get it
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abdel12345 said:
Ok the game was laggy at stock clock bit overclocked to 1.4 ghz min. 249 with gin2jellybean rom it ran at a pretty playable speed but id say to be better of with a newer phone because there is still some slight lag at some points like when another cast hits you. But id say its still worth it just for the awesome emulators since all of them work great and there's even a psp emulator with some games that are playable. If you can find one at a reasonable price like 50-100 dollars id say you should get it
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Damn. I dont know what to do now. I really love that game, but love the built in gamepad for the Xperia... if the Bladepad comes soon for Android I may regret buying a Xperia..
Addicted2boobs said:
Damn. I dont know what to do now. I really love that game, but love the built in gamepad for the Xperia... if the Bladepad comes soon for Android I may regret buying a Xperia..
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Well what's your budget? Im sure you can find a cheap one on eBay and then still be able to buy a newer phone later and sell the xperia. If you overclock to 1.5 the game is playable very smoothly but again the play doesn't have the best looking screen compared to others so even then you might not enjoy it as much. Also that game didn't support the gamepad you have to use touchscreen and it was hard on a 4 inch screen so there's no point in the play for that game
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abdel12345 said:
Well what's your budget? Im sure you can find a cheap one on eBay and then still be able to buy a newer phone later and sell the xperia. If you overclock to 1.5 the game is playable very smoothly but again the play doesn't have the best looking screen compared to others so even then you might not enjoy it as much. Also that game didn't support the gamepad you have to use touchscreen and it was hard on a 4 inch screen so there's no point in the play for that game
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I could spend like 150€ tops, not more.
You said 50-100, but the cheapest I can find in Ebay is 127€, used and + shipping
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You said 50-100, but the cheapest I can find in Ebay is 127€, used and + shipping
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There was someone on xda willing to sell theirs for 50$. Try looking on amazon. Since you're in Europe ( I'm assuming because your using euros) then you might not find it at that price but ill look for a cheap one on line and link you to it
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I cant find anything on Amazon or Ebay for that price
The only cheaper phone that could maybe (i don't relly know) handle the games is the HTC First. It has better specs than the Xperia Play and costs only 100€. But it doesn't have a gamepad. If you're looking for another phone with a gamepad, you won't find any because the Xperia Play is the only one
I realized why you couldn't find any cheap ones. It's because your in Europe and need the gsm ones. I found 2 Xperia plays on craigslist for 100$ but they were r800x's so they won't work in Europe because that version is cdma
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abdel12345 said:
I realized why you couldn't find any cheap ones. It's because your in Europe and need the gsm ones. I found 2 Xperia plays on craigslist for 100$ but they were r800x's so they won't work in Europe because that version is cdma
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Yea I want the r800i. What's the difference? There's is also one called Zeus, Zeus SE ... etc inside r800i
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Yea I want the r800i. What's the difference? There's is also one called Zeus, Zeus SE ... etc inside r800i
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R800x is cdma so it only works in America while r800i is gsm which uses a SIM card so it works worldwide
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Can some more XP users play test Carma free and comment on the results? pls
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2271501
Check out this thread it has other people's opinions
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Theres also a gamekeyboard profile on there to get game pad working
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Hey guys I'm planning to buy this phone my main purpose is too play games watch movies and browsing internet.. I wana know does this phone is good for gaming does it support high end games like asphalt 8 and modern combat 3 etc... And if yes then is it smooth during gaming is videocore 4 gpu is any good? Please suggest me
Thank you all have a nice day
Not quite all over great in gaming...
It supports high end games...not all..but almost..i mean...the main problem is its resolution..its ppi..its tooo damn low....everything with damn high resolution and sharpness will look bad....we can play asphalt 8in highest resolution too...but its sharpness is too mch that our screen don't support and that looks ugly at times....if u zooom the same...it becomes very hd...i mean to say if u zoom out very hd graphics...they look bad..so its okay for gaming..but not that great....icons big.. And it got broadcomm processor...which haven't released codes...thanx to devs they released amazing kitkat roms and everything for us...but still many things are limited... ..so i wud advice....that don't mahn...just wait..
developers are like gods
anant_6 said:
Hey guys I'm planning to buy this phone my main purpose is too play games watch movies and browsing internet.. I wana know does this phone is good for gaming does it support high end games like asphalt 8 and modern combat 3 etc... And if yes then is it smooth during gaming is videocore 4 gpu is any good? Please suggest me
Thank you all have a nice day
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Watching movies
Hell yeah, watching movies on grand is awesome
Mostly watch those 720p ones from YiFy which show decent detail
The only thing is the audio output via headphones
My old P500 has way better audio on headphones than grand even without using Viper or any other mod
Browsing Internet
Never faced an issue
The 5 inch factor is pretty good while browsing web
Games
Grand has a pretty good GPU which has been improved by Samsung by firmware updates
Games like Asphalt 8, FIFA 14, Injustice, Dead Trigger 1&2 play smoothly
Would recommend the Xperia Ion/Xperia C over it though
(Go buy it if you are gonna install ViperFX to get some decent sound)
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Thank you soo much for your replies guys I'm thinking about xperia l also.. What do you guys think about it?
anant_6 said:
Thank you soo much for your replies guys I'm thinking about xperia l also.. What do you guys think about it?
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Grand is loads better than Xperia L imho
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Ohkay thanks I'm finally gonna buy grand
Movies: Too good, I use VPlayer.
Games: I don't play much, but have played Subway surfers, temple run 2, etc. It runs without any lag.
Internet: No issues. I use Stock browser as well as Chrome at times for a change.
Hit thanks if you like my post.
If you can't live without dual SIM and willing to shell out some extra bucks then wait for Grand 2. Spec-side it's a bit better than Grand 1
Xperia SP run HIGH END Games almost no lag , it has adreno 320 , Grand 2 is great choice too
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