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[Q] Xperia ARC vs Xperia PLAY

Hello!
Please tell me which games are there which I can't play on ARC while I can on PLAY?
Please name such games if you can.
I am about to buy any one of these tommorrow, and don't know which to prefer; here is a little comparison, please correct me if I am wrong and also mention something I might have missed;
ARC :
Great body design
Great body material
Great Camera
Poor sound
No gaming Pad
Larger Screen
Not so good Web experience
Not so good Touch Interface
Radio
PLAY :
Average body design
Poor body material
Average Camera
Great sound
Gaming Pad
Average Screen
Great Web Experience
Great Touch experience
No Radio
Also tell me is there any difference between them as far as the user experience is concerned, I mean any application or function or anything that ARC has and Play don't or vice versa?
How much do they differ as far as the browsing experience is concerned?
So far Arc is winning, I guess, but now it all depends upon the games. That's is why I am contacting you all. I mean I am interested in Star Battalion and Asphalt (which from what I know can be played on ARC), and not much interested in Crash Bandicot.
Please reply soon.
Thanks in advance.

Can you tell me why you think the play has better web experience then the arc I think the specs of the same are they not ?

Torres77an said:
Can you tell me why you think the play has better web experience then the arc I think the specs of the same are they not ?
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I've never had a problem with the web experience on the arc .

Torres77an said:
Can you tell me why you think the play has better web experience then the arc I think the specs of the same are they not ?
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Hello!
I don't know really.
I guess I got the impression from the fact that SE's official site says that PLAY is a great web experience on top of great gaming experience. And also from a video which showcased some downsides of ARC's browser versus that of IPhone 4 but couldn't find any video doing the same for PLAY.

I have to Disagree on some of your Points there on Arc
Poor sound
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You must not say POOR in General because for a Single Loud Speaker Arc Speaker is One of the Best out there, Dont' compare Single to Stereo Speaker, but Yes Xperia Play's Speaker is The Best Speakers on Mobile Phone out there.
Not so good Web experience
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Of course Bigger screen means Better Web Experience IMHO, I don't see why Arc will not do better than Play?
Not so good Touch Interface
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All Xperia right now have The Same Excellent Touch Interface, but Most Xperia's out there are Applied with Shatter Proof Sheet on a Mineral Glass that protects the screen, that could slightly decreases Touch Performance
IMO Both Phones are Great except they are focused on Different markets
Arc as the Camera/Video Stylish Phone and Play as the Gaming Phone Equipped with Superb PS controls and LOUD Stereo Speakers
but overall Experience is Great
You can also visit my youtube channel to see Arc in Action for Games
Arc Youtube Video's

I think you forget to mention that play does not support Brave Engine and i think both device has pretty good sound too. Just get to the store and try it.

Hey lol im facing the exact same crisis! I've kinda decided on the arc. Some of your points are not true mate. The arc web browsing is better. What the play has that the arc doesn't are the dedicated gaming controls and stereo speakers. By no means are the arc speakers bad. Don't pay much attention to the SE website.. they promote their phones as much as they can. For the xperia x8 they say access to thousands of apps on the market. That doesn't mean the androids don't lol. Arc has a brilliant camera, based on personal usage better than the N8 I don't know how.. 12mp vs 8 and even the owner of the N8 reluctantly admitted the arc camera was better. Arc has the exmor sensor and BRAVIA engine while play has no sensor, but has a BRAVIA port. Doesn't Work that great imho. Very little difference. Also keep in mind though that in bright light, bravia might not be good. It overdoes things sometimes and you can't turn it off. I'd love some feedback to this thread from arc owners, IV already got some from play owners. I think I'm gonna go with the arc cos I'm not a hardcore gamer and the arc screen is big enough to support touch controls on normal android games. Fpse can be a problem but I doubt I'll ever use it. Also, I doubt the play can support ps2 and psp games.. so I'm reluctant to get one. There may or may not be any exclusive games being released for it.. would be a HUGE disappointment to play owners. When it comes to custom roms and kernels, it appears the play has a bit more support I assume.. this is just my 2 cents.. would value other opinions very much.
Edit- arc touch interface is awesome. It's bloody brilliant. And it can detect more that 2 fingers simultaneously. Only negative point I have about the arc- in SOME models, hairline cracks appear in the housing. Just google it. It's quite rare.. and you won't notice it in most cases. If this doesn't bother you, it's fine. It doesn't affect performance or anything at all. It wouldn't bother me.. I wouldn't even notice lol. Yea.. thats my 2 cents.

price is a constant too, the arc is cheaper

Pjay12 said:
Hey lol im facing the exact same crisis! I've kinda decided on the arc. Some of your points are not true mate. The arc web browsing is better. What the play has that the arc doesn't are the dedicated gaming controls and stereo speakers. By no means are the arc speakers bad. Don't pay much attention to the SE website.. they promote their phones as much as they can. For the xperia x8 they say access to thousands of apps on the market. That doesn't mean the androids don't lol. Arc has a brilliant camera, based on personal usage better than the N8 I don't know how.. 12mp vs 8 and even the owner of the N8 reluctantly admitted the arc camera was better. Arc has the exmor sensor and BRAVIA engine while play has no sensor, but has a BRAVIA port. Doesn't Work that great imho. Very little difference. Also keep in mind though that in bright light, bravia might not be good. It overdoes things sometimes and you can't turn it off. I'd love some feedback to this thread from arc owners, IV already got some from play owners. I think I'm gonna go with the arc cos I'm not a hardcore gamer and the arc screen is big enough to support touch controls on normal android games. Fpse can be a problem but I doubt I'll ever use it. Also, I doubt the play can support ps2 and psp games.. so I'm reluctant to get one. There may or may not be any exclusive games being released for it.. would be a HUGE disappointment to play owners. When it comes to custom roms and kernels, it appears the play has a bit more support I assume.. this is just my 2 cents.. would value other opinions very much.
Edit- arc touch interface is awesome. It's bloody brilliant. And it can detect more that 2 fingers simultaneously. Only negative point I have about the arc- in SOME models, hairline cracks appear in the housing. Just google it. It's quite rare.. and you won't notice it in most cases. If this doesn't bother you, it's fine. It doesn't affect performance or anything at all. It wouldn't bother me.. I wouldn't even notice lol. Yea.. thats my 2 cents.
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You can Turn Off Bravia Engine in the Display Settings

mhyke13ph said:
You can Turn Off Bravia Engine in the Display Settings
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Thanks! Did not know that
Hmmm.... are you satisfied with your arc? Any main advantages/disadvantages?
About price - the arc came out at a significantly increased price when compared to the play. However, prices around now are the same. (In my country at least)

Pjay12 said:
Thanks! Did not know that
Hmmm.... are you satisfied with your arc? Any main advantages/disadvantages?
About price - the arc came out at a significantly increased price when compared to the play. However, prices around now are the same. (In my country at least)
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No problem. Actually I also had my dilema choosing Arc or Play these were the phones available at that time when i was going to replace my X8, I read a lot about these phones, and their price is almost the same $520 Arc and $525 Play, but i bought the Arc instead with lots of personal preferences, and yes I play a lot.
Yes I am very pleased with my Arc, not just by the looks of it, Performance is great and par on most dualcore phones out there.
Drawbacks? Cracks appearing and chrome peeling that will show around 2 to 3 months, cracks can be serious issue to most people, it hit hard on Midnight Blue version, and rare on Misty Silver, and I chose Misty Silver because of that.
IMO Chrome peeling is not new to us, i Also had some Chrome peeling in my Previous phone.
My Arc was up for 267Hrs before i encountered a random Reboot, I think that's Normal
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mhyke13ph said:
No problem. Actually I also had my dilema choosing Arc or Play these were the phones available at that time when i was going to replace my X8, I read a lot about these phones, and their price is almost the same $520 Arc and $525 Play, but i bought the Arc instead with lots of personal preferences, and yes I play a lot.
Yes I am very pleased with my Arc, not just by the looks of it, Performance is great and par on most dualcore phones out there.
Drawbacks? Cracks appearing and chrome peeling that will show around 2 to 3 months, cracks can be serious issue to most people, it hit hard on Midnight Blue version, and rare on Misty Silver, and I chose Misty Silver because of that.
IMO Chrome peeling is not new to us, i Also had some Chrome peeling in my Previous phone.
My Arc was up for 267Hrs before i encountered a random Reboot, I think that's Normal
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OMG! Im also looking to replace my x8! HA
Hmmm... I want to buy the midnight blue.. Silver doesnt look that great but the cracks are a problem.... Guess ill decide that when I go to buy it..
Do you regret not buying the Play? Or would you choose the arc over the play again? Also, what games do you play? HD? And are they completely lagless?

Pjay12 said:
OMG! Im also looking to replace my x8! HA
Hmmm... I want to buy the midnight blue.. Silver doesnt look that great but the cracks are a problem.... Guess ill decide that when I go to buy it..
Do you regret not buying the Play? Or would you choose the arc over the play again? Also, what games do you play? HD? And are they completely lagless?
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Oh yea you should replace that X8, too bad X8 was a great contender last year for Mid Range phones, but they didn't supported it well and it's like a Dead on Arrival Phone
Here is my Personal Youtube Channel
It Includes Unboxing, Quick Review(No voice though, Im Shy ) and lots of GAMES! Please Rate and Share too
I only encounter Lags when playing Asphalt 6, maybe because this game is not for Arc, and because this game is for Xperia Play Optimised, but still playable and it rarely lags.
If i could own Both that would be nice

Hmm.. Have you overclocked? Or it lags a little on stock rom with 1Ghz default clock

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Hmm.. Have you overclocked? Or it lags a little on stock rom with 1Ghz default clock
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No, I stayed on Stock Rom 2.3.3 and No Root , Still waiting for a Rootable 2.3.3 or 2.3.4 when time comes
Xperia Play Handles Games and Task very well because it is the only phone out there that uses a dual channel DDR2 memory working at 300 Hertz, that Improves Performances a lot and can perform Heavy Task.
Thats why Playing games on Play is Optimised and stayed @ 60FPS Refresh Rate.
One Very Big Pro for Xplay

athris said:
I think you forget to mention that play does not support Brave Engine and i think both device has pretty good sound too. Just get to the store and try it.
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The play has bravia engine since doomlord ported it

IMO the Play and the Arc are both excellent devices. But they are aimed at two totally diffrent markets. The Play has been heavly optimised for playing games. (stereo speakers, dual channel ddr2 memory). But unless you intend to play alot of games on your phone, i see no reason to buy a play over an Arc. I love playing games on my play. And could never go back to touchscreen games now

If you want to game a lot --> Play is for you because of the controla
If you want to use it as a normal smartphone, texting, browsing, gaming sometimes Arc is the way to go imo.
I don't regret getting my Arc and it's fast @ 1GHz but of course it's even snappier @ 1.2GHz
Mine midnight blue Arc has the crack but it's not that visable (most of my friends don't see it, even if you say them there's a crack).
Arc rocks, but both devices are great.
Day to day performance should be exactly the same on Arc and Play due same specs and same using experience.
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Actually I Play a lot but I did chose Arc over Play because of these Factors
>Size
>Weight
>Screen Size
>Screen Brightness
>Clear Black Panel
>Bravia Engine
>8MP Exmor R
>HD Recording
>HDMI Port(Bonus for Me)
>Style
Over
>PS Controls with Touch pads
>Stereo Speakers
>Exclusive Games and PS Suite
>Dual DDR2 Memory Channel
>Front Facing Camera
Put Those Arc Features in Play, I will choose Play Anytime
They could easily put some of those features and make Play as their Flagship phone?
Just Imagine All those Arc Features(not the Size and Weight) in Play

Those of you who have the play- (AndroHero I think)
Will the play be able to support PSP and PS2 games? Its my biggest concern about the Play. I saw a video on youtube - Modern warfare for xperia play. I know it was fake but the graphics :O:O:O:O:O:O Will the play ever actually be able to do that? Or will there most probably be a play 2 that will..?
My conclusion (so far) - The Play's gaming controls make it an ultimate portable gaming experience and you can thrash other players in online/multiplayer FPS games. The DDR2 RAM eliminates the lags that you very very rarely see on an xperia arc. And you get a tiny not-very-good front camera that Ill never use. The games can be played on both devices extremely well. Day to day performance is the same.
So...
Camera (really awesome cam) vs gaming controls.
Great.. Im exactly where I started out :/
Thanks all for the help More opinions always welcome. Im begging for them actually... It'll be my first high end android and I dont want to regret buying it or later thinking damn I should have bought the <insert name of what I didnt buy>
Edit- how is the support for the 2 devices when it comes to custom roms, kernels, etc?
Ive searched the forums for both, theres one note-worthy kernel (doom), one FXP rom each and the play has 2 or 3 others. Are roms for the arc in progress? Or is the stock rom brilliant as it is? Sorry for the *noob* questions. But Ive done the searching and researching and I want confirmation and stuffs I didnt know. New to the forums here etc etc

[Poll] How many use Xperia Play for Gaming (With the gamepad)

Just a question that came up in rom threads. To get more insight into things. How many of use really use the xperia play for its gaming ability. Meaning, you REALLY want the gamepad used correctly. Some people use just the touch screen more and dont care about the gamepad as much. So just thought I would make a poll for devs to use later to get insight on how people use their xperia.

The gamepad is the only reason I chose this phone over the other Android phones offered by Verizon. And so far, it hasn't let me down. Of course, I'm a retro gamer, I couldn't really care less about the touchpads.

I use it often. At the mo playing Zelda on the Gameboy Advance emulator and loving it
brought to you by the XDA app on my badass Android toy

I use it for every emulator , every game. The gamepad is the sole purpose of buying this phone.

Yea I am all about the emulators myself. However I think the issue comes up on non stock roms with android based games that "optimize for xperia play" and how some roms may not work right on a gamepad. I just know I love the gamepad. Too bad GTA3 isnt working right.

YES... i had been hunting down this phone since i heard rumors of it, 2 years before its release, so i started to save up cash, i waited a while for it to drop price, when i finally had enough money , i got the white one, because everyone here would have the black one, anyways as soon as i got the phone the works, Boot loader on locking, Rooting, Custom Rom, Emulators/ROMS, im an old school gamer, so all the Pokemons, all the Marios, etc etc.
What i loved about the phone is that my younger brother got a Iphone 3gs and he did not wanted to buy the Xperia Play because " it looks so cheap" and to be honest it does, it took him 30 seconds of playing my Play to Regret getting the Iphone 3gs, as like me he is also a hardcore gamer.
So Gaming pad.. hell Freaking yeah... its the only thing i can bark at work,"hey my phone has this much processor","mine has this much screen", etc then i go "well how many of you have gaming buttons?" and i just laugh.

My last two phones I had purchased the GameGripper for both. Bit when I saw the xplay I jumped for it and haven't looked back. Now version where the hell is the info on the ics update?
http://www.game-gripper.com/mobile/default.aspx#Home
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The gamepad is great for playing fighting games

The gamepad is one mayor thing that brought me to buy the phone.
As I consider myself a hardcore and casually retro gamer.
Many other reasons:
Decent screen size
Incredibly loud stereo speakers
Supports epileptic led mode (32hz/2000bpm)
Autofocus camera
Awesome processor and GPU (overclockeable to 2GHz!!!1!11one)
512 MBs of RAM
Easy rooting and bootloader unlocking
Comes with the best OS in the world
Built-in integration with Facebook
Some drawbacks:
SEMC skin kinda sucks compared to cooler ones
Comes with lots of bloatware
Brightness is NULL in the outsides of a sunny day
Battery does not last more than three days under default settings
SEMC launcher only has 5 homescreen slots
Built-in theme chooser doesn't do much
Front camera only works in outsides and is a 1.3 MP one
But overall, much better phone than any of those I have found people using on the streets (at least in my country).

I mainly use the phone with Onlive. Ever since it got support I've been wasting my money on games my computer can handle, but it's on my phone <3.
Emulators work rather well, it's just say I'm playing Majora's Mask I have to keep the virtual keys on screen for the c-buttons due to lack of mapping.

I just don't use the touchpads
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Thats the whole bloody reason why I got the Xperia Play because of the gamepad !
It stands out from the crowd.
Just cannot wait for ICS on the Xperia Play !
Anybody else excited ?

sufy1000 said:
Thats the whole bloody reason why I got the Xperia Play because of the gamepad !
It stands out from the crowd.
Just cannot wait for ICS on the Xperia Play !
Anybody else excited ?
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ICS is good but miui is better in my opinion.. I still use the gamepad just don't play any games that use touch pads
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I use my Xperia Play only as a gaming device. I don't use it as a phone (no sim card). I got it used super cheap. Onlive, FPse, etc.
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of course...bought it because of the game pad..i have a lot of time to play games...even at work...

i don't use the touchpad because i haven't game where i need it (only in mupen64 i need them, but i'm not an hardcore player)

Do some of you still use a BT Gamepad on your XP? Was thinking of getting the onlive universal gamepad. Still having a full set of trigger buttons would be nice.

I thougt the game pad was cool but i actully don't use it so much and actully have another android phone.

That's the main reason I got it and it's great for my retro gaming needs. I use emulators mainly and only use the pads when I need to, like with Mupen64.
I can say I'm a little disappointed in the r800x model (stupid Verizon). My parents still pay my phone bill so I can't complain too much.
I'm moving to Canada this summer and I plan on getting one from whatever carrier I end up with (not CDMA though, I'm done with that mess). They are free with most contracts which makes it even tastier.
BTW any recommendations for cell carriers in Canada? PM me

I'm mobile.. and I'm a gamer.. so, I bought Xplay because it's a Gaming Mobile Phone which had "gamepad" on it..
If I don't use the gamepad, I would prefer Arc S or Ray than this..

hey sony , any update ??!!??

Hi Gamers !
does anyone has any problem about sony's promises ?!?!
- ICS ?
- PSP gmes ??
- sony's exclusive games ??
- xperia play 2 ?? when we should have high end xperia play , not doual core , i'm talking about quad core , tegra 3 ...
- i this nesseccry for u to buy xperia play2 or waiting for that ? , or thats better to move on galaxy s3 with a gamepad ??
cause xperia play = nothing special ( till now )
- why sony do not use it's game exprience ??!?!!!
i really like my xperia play , but i just bought that because of sony , cause i'm gamer , like you , we need sony's game , not F*** gameloft global game ...

Pretty sure the only thing you listed that was ever actually promised is that we get ICS...

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Pretty sure the only thing you listed that was ever actually promised is that we get ICS...
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Yep. PSP games aren't even possible hardware wise. About 10x the power of the original system is needed to emulate the games on a computer.
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Some Psp games were actually promised.

mehdi.moha said:
Hi Gamers !
does anyone has any problem about sony's promises ?!?!
- ICS ?
- PSP gmes ??
- sony's exclusive games ??
- xperia play 2 ?? when we should have high end xperia play , not doual core , i'm talking about quad core , tegra 3 ...
- i this nesseccry for u to buy xperia play2 or waiting for that ? , or thats better to move on galaxy s3 with a gamepad ??
cause xperia play = nothing special ( till now )
- why sony do not use it's game exprience ??!?!!!
i really like my xperia play , but i just bought that because of sony , cause i'm gamer , like you , we need sony's game , not F*** gameloft global game ...
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Sony hasn't backed out on any of its promises yet.
1)Sony's still on track for ICS , they said at the end of may/early June.
2)Sony have never promised they would put any psp games on the xperia play although we do have loco roco. They said the playstation suite would come which may have psp games - this will be released in an update - they did not give us a date of when this would happen so they have not broken any promises.
3)There's plenty of Xperia exclusive games, virtua tennis,fifa 12,Lode runner etc etc.
4)Sony has never said they would make an xperia play 2.
5)Please move onto the galaxy s3, you're nothing but a nuisance in this forum, constantly asking for psp games,xperia play 2's etc.
6)Sony does use its "game experience" as the playstation emulator wouldn't be possible without it.
Finally, its your fault for buying a phone without reading up on it, Sony don't owe you anything.
Edit- Urgh thanked him accidentally while clicking quote -_-.

I find it kind of ironic that people play on gaming centric phone and handle it as "playstation phone" while they care and demand high end specs when playstation 3 is pretty low spec'd in todays market
Consoles have never been beasts in graphical category.ö
But I think its pretty obvious, we have the base for Xplay so it doesnt cost so much and isnt "delayed" in terms of specs, we also can speculate that next Xplay will be released when the hardware is mature enough to emulate PSP and PS2 games.
I dont remember that sony ever promised PSP games, you can expect them to release PSP games at same timespan as any orher Top quality AAA PSP games would be released. Portting is essentialy recreating majority of the code for new platform.

mehdi.moha said:
Hi Gamers !
does anyone has any problem about sony's promises ?!?!
- ICS ?
- PSP gmes ??
- sony's exclusive games ??
- xperia play 2 ?? when we should have high end xperia play , not doual core , i'm talking about quad core , tegra 3 ...
- i this nesseccry for u to buy xperia play2 or waiting for that ? , or thats better to move on galaxy s3 with a gamepad ??
cause xperia play = nothing special ( till now )
- why sony do not use it's game exprience ??!?!!!
i really like my xperia play , but i just bought that because of sony , cause i'm gamer , like you , we need sony's game , not F*** gameloft global game ...
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Every time I see a stupid post like this I know right away who it is

mehdi.moha said:
Hi Gamers !
does anyone has any problem about sony's promises ?!?!
- ICS ?
- PSP gmes ??
- sony's exclusive games ??
- xperia play 2 ?? when we should have high end xperia play , not doual core , i'm talking about quad core , tegra 3 ...
- i this nesseccry for u to buy xperia play2 or waiting for that ? , or thats better to move on galaxy s3 with a gamepad ??
cause xperia play = nothing special ( till now )
- why sony do not use it's game exprience ??!?!!!
i really like my xperia play , but i just bought that because of sony , cause i'm gamer , like you , we need sony's game , not F*** gameloft global game ...
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Did you forget to mention your HDMI?
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Another dumb post by mehdi.moha
ICS is the only promised thing as well as playstation integration both of which are on their way.... If you ask me sony is making the same mistakes sega did they dont offer enough games for their hardware the most successful console ever was probably the ps2 and that was because it offered backwards compatibility so you had the new awesome games and the old ones. Personally I think that before they made the play they should have already ported psp games and ps1 games and a few ps2 games and then also there would have been xperia play optimised games.
As for the xperia play 2 sony has adamently said there are no plans! NONE. But it is likely that they will eventually make a new one.
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LususNaturae said:
Every time I see a stupid post like this I know right away who it is
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I totally agree lol EVERY time makes me wanna play mortal combat and play the fire dude...
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Here's a thought. I myself find his posts and threads completely pointless, offer no value and are just complaints about everything. Here is what people should do who find his posts worthless. Don't reply. I don't. And I'm only reply to tell people this. I know whenever he posts a comment on my threads its nothing b!itching about something unrelated to my thread and he has even gone on to tell me in my thread that he "doesn't care". Everyone has the right to an opinion but it doesn't mean we have to add fuel to the fire and respond. Ignore it and move on. I do. For users who enjoy the xperia plays move on to other useful and enjoyable threads/posts. For those who are unhappy in their decision of buying this (awesome) phone then follow this guy. But for the love of Barney the purple dinosaur get another phone if you are not happy and save other users the annoyance of seeing constant pointless negative posts by userssuch as these. I know this is long. So...rant done. Now...lets go play some games and have fun.
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mehdi.moha said:
- ICS ?
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You should know that ICS is officially announced for end of may/beginnig of June. We are at 13th of May...
mehdi.moha said:
- PSP gmes ??
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Sony Ericsson never promised PSP games for the XPeria Play. NEVER. Stop thinking the Xperia Play will be a PSP + phone just because it looks like a PSP Go.
mehdi.moha said:
- sony's exclusive games ??
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Sony Ericsson paid for some temporary and optimized exclusives (Minecraft POcket Edition for example).
mehdi.moha said:
- xperia play 2 ?? when we should have high end xperia play , not doual core , i'm talking about quad core , tegra 3 ...
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Xperia Play 2??? The Xperia Play 1 has aprox. 1 year of life! You already want another one? Stop using the mobiles as things for being used a short time. A mobile should have 3 years of use, not less of one. Do you know how much natural resources are needed to make a mobile??? Stop being so materialistic!
Before buying your Xperia Play you should had informed about what hardware it has, now don't cry because it hasn't got dual core, more RAM, etc. Learn to enjoy what you have!
mehdi.moha said:
- i this nesseccry for u to buy xperia play2 or waiting for that ? , or thats better to move on galaxy s3 with a gamepad ??
cause xperia play = nothing special ( till now )
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Xperia Play = Nothing special??? A mobile phone with a gamepad for playing games anywhere? What other device has anything similar??? The Xperia Play may not be the perfect mobile device, but please, don't you dare to say it is nothing special, because is one of the most original mobile phone out there...
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- why sony do not use it's game exprience ??!?!!!
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You are confusing two different compannies: Sony Ericsson (SE) and Sony Computer Entertainment (SCE). Son Ericsson is the one that made the Xperia Play while Sony Computer Entertainment just helped on its developing (the gaming controls, apps like Playstation Suite, etc.). This means it is NOT a console, it is a mobile that allows to play mobile games more comfortably with its game controls. The "Playstation Certified" logo is just an accessory that promises that this device will recieve the Playstation Suite and SOME content from the Playstation Store.
I hate like you companies like Gameloft, but think a bit, you seriously think that big gaming companies (Square Enix, Capcom, etc.) will make an super exclusive title like (for example) a Final Fantasy or a Kingdom Hearts for a device that not so much people have (in comparison with a portable console like the N3DS or the PSVita)? Do you know how much money would they lose?
That's why you don't see super-duper exclusive games like in a console, because the money and because its not a damn console!!!
BUT
You are wrong if you think SCE is not helping with its long experience in the gaming industry. If you would had been more informed you would know about the Playstation Suite Software Developer Kit (SDK), wich is already in open beta since a month ago. This SDK will allow companies and users to create exclusive content to all devices that have the Playstation Certified seal (the PSVita, the Xperia Play, and the two Sony tablets, for now). Isn't this helping with game experience???
Link for more info about the PS Suite SDK: http://www.playstation.com/pss/developer/index_e.html
Think a bit before saying all these things, know what you buy and learn to enjoy it.

Couldn't have said it better. BAM.... right in the nose
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jgregoryj1 said:
Here's a thought. I myself find his posts and threads completely pointless, offer no value and are just complaints about everything. Here is what people should do who find his posts worthless. Don't reply. I don't. And I'm only reply to tell people this. I know whenever he posts a comment on my threads its nothing b!itching about something unrelated to my thread and he has even gone on to tell me in my thread that he "doesn't care". Everyone has the right to an opinion but it doesn't mean we have to add fuel to the fire and respond. Ignore it and move on. I do. For users who enjoy the xperia plays move on to other useful and enjoyable threads/posts. For those who are unhappy in their decision of buying this (awesome) phone then follow this guy. But for the love of Barney the purple dinosaur get another phone if you are not happy and save other users the annoyance of seeing constant pointless negative posts by userssuch as these. I know this is long. So...rant done. Now...lets go play some games and have fun.
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Ya its just SO HARD because he is such a colossal JACKASS
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mehdi.moha said:
Hi Gamers !
does anyone has any problem about sony's promises ?!?!
- ICS ?
- PSP gmes ??
- sony's exclusive games ??
- xperia play 2 ?? when we should have high end xperia play , not doual core , i'm talking about quad core , tegra 3 ...
- i this nesseccry for u to buy xperia play2 or waiting for that ? , or thats better to move on galaxy s3 with a gamepad ??
cause xperia play = nothing special ( till now )
- why sony do not use it's game exprience ??!?!!!
i really like my xperia play , but i just bought that because of sony , cause i'm gamer , like you , we need sony's game , not F*** gameloft global game ...
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Oh wow! Buddy you really need to get over the psp emulation and xperia play 2, if you want to complain send it to sony instead of starting more bulls*it threads about this!!!!! Every time you open a thread its to either complain about something that isn't even real or you have problems that you want everybody else to try and fix for you! Sell the damn thing if your not happy with it geez you would be doing ALL of us a huge favor by not being around here. A mod should have this guy banned!
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Miles Wolf said:
You should know that ICS is officially announced for end of may/beginnig of June. We are at 13th of May...
Sony Ericsson never promised PSP games for the XPeria Play. NEVER. Stop thinking the Xperia Play will be a PSP + phone just because it looks like a PSP Go.
Sony Ericsson paid for some temporary and optimized exclusives (Minecraft POcket Edition for example).
Xperia Play 2??? The Xperia Play 1 has aprox. 1 year of life! You already want another one? Stop using the mobiles as things for being used a short time. A mobile should have 3 years of use, not less of one. Do you know how much natural resources are needed to make a mobile??? Stop being so materialistic!
Before buying your Xperia Play you should had informed about what hardware it has, now don't cry because it hasn't got dual core, more RAM, etc. Learn to enjoy what you have!
Xperia Play = Nothing special??? A mobile phone with a gamepad for playing games anywhere? What other device has anything similar??? The Xperia Play may not be the perfect mobile device, but please, don't you dare to say it is nothing special, because is one of the most original mobile phone out there...
You are confusing two different compannies: Sony Ericsson (SE) and Sony Computer Entertainment (SCE). Son Ericsson is the one that made the Xperia Play while Sony Computer Entertainment just helped on its developing (the gaming controls, apps like Playstation Suite, etc.). This means it is NOT a console, it is a mobile that allows to play mobile games more comfortably with its game controls. The "Playstation Certified" logo is just an accessory that promises that this device will recieve the Playstation Suite and SOME content from the Playstation Store.
I hate like you companies like Gameloft, but think a bit, you seriously think that big gaming companies (Square Enix, Capcom, etc.) will make an super exclusive title like (for example) a Final Fantasy or a Kingdom Hearts for a device that not so much people have (in comparison with a portable console like the N3DS or the PSVita)? Do you know how much money would they lose?
That's why you don't see super-duper exclusive games like in a console, because the money and because its not a damn console!!!
BUT
You are wrong if you think SCE is not helping with its long experience in the gaming industry. If you would had been more informed you would know about the Playstation Suite Software Developer Kit (SDK), wich is already in open beta since a month ago. This SDK will allow companies and users to create exclusive content to all devices that have the Playstation Certified seal (the PSVita, the Xperia Play, and the two Sony tablets, for now). Isn't this helping with game experience???
Link for more info about the PS Suite SDK: http://www.playstation.com/pss/developer/index_e.html
Think a bit before saying all these things, know what you buy and learn to enjoy it.
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ok ! thank you "milles wolf" , YOU PROVIDED THE BEST ANSWER .

Install OnLive and quit crying over games. I'm merrily playing AC:Revelations on mine right now.

AdyCarter said:
Install OnLive and quit crying over games. I'm merrily playing AC:Revelations on mine right now.
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How do you activate eagle vision?
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With difficulty unless Im using the Wireless Pad.
I mainly run around collecting **** in the AC games via my phone due to the L3/R3 annoyances, Brotherhood and 2 work fine though.

AdyCarter said:
Install OnLive and quit crying over games. I'm merrily playing AC:Revelations on mine right now.
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thank you too

should i buy xperia play today when the rivals have dual core???

m thinkin of getting xperia play but the phones of the same price range got dual core processors... only thing for which m considering xperia play is obviously its gamepad... so wat do u guys say... should i get a xperia play or just move on to other phones? se didnt gave ics update to it... can i expect jellybean workin on this device or its hardware is outdated for tat?

If you're more a gamer than a phone user, buy the Play. If you're more a phone user than a gamer, buy a different phone.
This device is designed with gamers in mind, that's why they included a gamepad with it. And do not worry about cores, most games that are Xperia Play-compatible work pretty good on it.

Devs are hard at work porting Jellybean to the Play. Amazingly, Jellybean is much faster than ICS and possibly even faster than Gingerbread (but we'll see if that one holds up). I think you should get the Play, if you want to play games on it. Dual core phones just don't hold a candle to physical buttons

Plus u can laugh at people who need to touch their phone screen to play games. Even if their hardware is powerful n all, i consider touching screen to play games is LAME!!!

i rather use a play than s3. SERIOUSLY.

I love my phone so much I have no interest in another touchscreen only phone. Truthfully... when my contract end in 6 months I plan on getting the AT&T play and using it on T-Mobile. I don't care if there is a galaxy s4 out or not. This phone rocks and the devs are doing a fantastic job with the PLAY.
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actually , if you are looking for childish gsmeloft's games ( i never like gmelotf's games ) , yeah ' time to buy a dual core phone
but if you like the consoles game ,snes,MD,n64,ps1,GBA, SCUMM engine games like monkey island ... don't hesitate , buy a xperia play and enjoy , cause you never will have fantastic experience (like xperia play ) on other smartphones (( if you are a gamer ))
i, personally will wait till end of the world for xperia play 2 , or a smartphone like that ...

Don't buy the Xplay as an upgrade. You're going to regret it. If anything, get it from eBay or Craigslist. It's totally not worth using an upgrade for it. Save up for a good much newer phone that will actually last you and keep up with times for the next 2 years.
It's good for games and emulators, but with lots of play expect to stay plugged in somewhere or have your phone drain pretty quick.
And no, you will not get jellybean. You will get ICS from here, but expect few things to be broken. Sony will probably release a newer Gingerbread rom but that's it.

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Plus u can laugh at people who need to touch their phone screen to play games. Even if their hardware is powerful n all, i consider touching screen to play games is LAME!!!
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Haha I agree. Games for me don't have to look graphically good. I am happy with the games that are on the Xperia PLAY at the moment.
And as everyone says you can't beat physical buttons !
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And as everyone says you can't beat physical buttons !
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That's what she said!! BAM! Just had to say it.....maybe its the food coma.......stupid dinner.
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I really wonder is there ever gonna be a device with high end hardware + gamepad other than play...

Be or not to be that's the.......
If you're a gamer and like all the retro stuff than of course take the PLAY. I think till today this little wonder handle all games not much more bader then the dual cores. Of course in the future threre wiil be more havier gAmes which the PLAY can't handle and for that reason there's only one opportunity "HOPE"
for a second more powerfull device with an gamepad (tried to play with touchscreen but that isn't gaming for me just ****). But if such an device never come then my PLAY still is andwill be the best mobile emulator machine!!!

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If you're a gamer and like all the retro stuff than of course take the PLAY. I think till today this little wonder handle all games not much more bader then the dual cores. Of course in the future threre wiil be more havier gAmes which the PLAY can't handle and for that reason there's only one opportunity "HOPE"
for a second more powerfull device with an gamepad (tried to play with touchscreen but that isn't gaming for me just ****). But if such an device never come then my PLAY still is andwill be the best mobile emulator machine!!!
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Kudos!!!

Still worth getting xperia play

i have been thinking of getting this phone or swap for my iphone as i do like playing games on a portable device i was wondering if it is still worth getting and how are you people finding it

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i have been thinking of getting this phone or swap for my iphone as i do like playing games on a portable device i was wondering if it is still worth getting and how are you people finding it
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The xperia play is a great phone and ghe best for gaming but its pretty outdated specs wise.if you don't care about specs and just want a good gaming phone than go for it. But if you want want a newer phone with good specs then get something newer like an s3 or something more affordable. But if you like gaming and don't care about old hardware and outdated software ( its stuck on gb unless you wanna flash a custom rom) then go for it
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Who cares about specs this phone runs better and is more stable then most phones on the,market lol plus you can overclovk the crap out of it
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its the only phone in the market that has a real life playstation touchpad yes it may have lower specs than the one thats out there, but the feel of having android phone + a playstation certified gaming gadget can never be traded by anything else out there. this phone will be my best and will forever be cherished by a gamer like me :angel:

i was worried about the ram its only 512 ive hardly had a phone with 512mb my current other phone is atrix dual core and 1 gb ram i also have an iphone which i dont want

This phone might have low ram and bad specs, but games still go much faster on the xperia play then on other devices with better specs.
And if games start to lag, unlock your bootloader, then flash a kernel and overclock.
Still lag, debloat your phone.
Still lag, flash tweaks eg AdrenoBooster

I am a proud play owner.but get galaxy 3 or HTC one and you will be happy.the play I will give it half a year and it will be dead.I am play owner from the start my first android phone.I hate Sony for what they do to this phone and not releasing xplay 2!!
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The gpu is a beast cpu sucks ass but as you know when playing a game the gpu does most of the work and the cpu barely gets off its ass thats why all Sony devices have ****ty cpu psp ps3 etc
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I would go with a newer phone I believed the xperia z is PS certified so you get exclusive games and its 5" 1080p full HD so games will look amazing on there...I know I would so swap my play for a newer phone in a heartbeat as I'm not a big gamer
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crazymonkey05 said:
I would go with a newer phone I believed the xperia z is PS certified so you get exclusive games and its 5" 1080p full HD so games will look amazing on there...I know I would so swap my play for a newer phone in a heartbeat as I'm not a big gamer
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I believe the Xperia z would be an awesome phone choice for someone with gigantism or something 5 inch display like come on thats ridiculous. You cant even hold it in your hand comfortably. Maybe soon they will come out with phone backpacks cause unless you have ganster pants that monster is not going to fit in your pocket.
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Playing games on a touch screen device is good but not the same as playing on xperia play

Its not worth getting xperia play. A few weeks ago I thought it is worth to have an xperia play for gaming, phone, bluetooth, etc all in one little device... With all those I listed above is what I use on my xperia play it became a burden because it drains the CPU resources to do certain for instance gaming, and because it lacks ram, internal memory. I felt it was wasnt worth it a long run. Get a ps3 controller with a stand and be done with it.

well, its almost 2016 and I don't give a crap about specs on my phone, maybe on my pc for heavy gaming like shadows of mordor. But if you really love games F... all others. sure you can be gay and get a moga controller or other, but then you need a stand for your phone(unless it has one) then you have to carry a controller around like a putz! why do I really need to walkaround like a gay batman with a fanny pack in lieu of my utility belt? and ram? who cares root it unlock the boot loader and use sd card ext give your self whatever size you want good god! oh the X-play successfully use the 64 gb sd( I know cause its in mine 4 years now) is that the only defense new phones have that and speed? So what you had a 90 ghzx 32 gb phone SO??? IT DOES NOT HAVE A BUILT IN DUAL TOUCHPAD CONTROLLER. like one guy said ramp up the speed a little to alleviate sluggish response. I run mine a 1300 MHz (don't want to burn up the processor) and its almost 2016 , but with a controller, I get to play DS games (almost all of them ) all snes, genesis, Gba , and now PSP games and N64 games (quite a few) run (most of them) and all of the PSX library too then all the other games out there for android and the small handful of x-play exclusives. dead space dungeon hunter 2 3 and 4 shadowgun GTA 3 AVP minecraft PE all angry birds rainbow 6 HD ,backstab, Aidens crons man the list goes on.
So if you are agamer, don't get anything else period because it has a controller and the massive list of highly functioning emulators to go with it. ( seven consoles in one plus android games). if you just want a really powerful phone get a Z or i phone 6 or some Shiite because you know that you need that raw power for your texting and twatting. LMFAO but you already know what youre going to do , so just do it and stop asking questions.

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well, its almost 2016 and I don't give a crap about specs on my phone, maybe on my pc for heavy gaming like shadows of mordor. But if you really love games F... all others. sure you can be gay and get a moga controller or other, but then you need a stand for your phone(unless it has one) then you have to carry a controller around like a putz! why do I really need to walkaround like a gay batman with a fanny pack in lieu of my utility belt? and ram? who cares root it unlock the boot loader and use sd card ext give your self whatever size you want good god! oh the X-play successfully use the 64 gb sd( I know cause its in mine 4 years now) is that the only defense new phones have that and speed? So what you had a 90 ghzx 32 gb phone SO??? IT DOES NOT HAVE A BUILT IN DUAL TOUCHPAD CONTROLLER. like one guy said ramp up the speed a little to alleviate sluggish response. I run mine a 1300 MHz (don't want to burn up the processor) and its almost 2016 , but with a controller, I get to play DS games (almost all of them ) all snes, genesis, Gba , and now PSP games and N64 games (quite a few) run (most of them) and all of the PSX library too then all the other games out there for android and the small handful of x-play exclusives. dead space dungeon hunter 2 3 and 4 shadowgun GTA 3 AVP minecraft PE all angry birds rainbow 6 HD ,backstab, Aidens crons man the list goes on.
So if you are agamer, don't get anything else period because it has a controller and the massive list of highly functioning emulators to go with it. ( seven consoles in one plus android games). if you just want a really powerful phone get a Z or i phone 6 or some Shiite because you know that you need that raw power for your texting and twatting. LMFAO but you already know what youre going to do , so just do it and stop asking questions.
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It's funny how android fanboys basically jack off to specs but a single core phone from 2011 still keeps up in gaming lol. You can even install up to jelly bean and have everything working kitkat and lollipop work but the touchpads are still being worked on. If the Xperia play could be modded to have LTE everyone would probably still have it. Yes other phones have bigger screens and are faster but if it is gaming that is your passion the play is THE ONLY WAY TO GO. Like this guy says you can use the sd as ram lol. It will be slower doing some things but gaming with that controller just can't be matched. If Sony made a derivative of the Z that had a gamepad I'd buy it the second it came out lol. Because my plays flex cable went out when I was away I had to get a new phone aka the Ion and now I have a z3 which is nice because it has alot of awesome features but I still have and still use a Xperia play! Gaming on a touchscreen really sucks.
Someone even modded the remote play apk so you theoretically could play your Ps4 on your Xperia play if you have the Sony files on your rom!
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i like my 3ds, but for me, no xplay no game!

Don't get the Xperia Play now.. move on and get a z5 and a PS controller attachd to it or something.. this phone will be dead very soon.. Gaming wise. as a phone its still good. newer games demand more from the phone which Play cant give.

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Well for me the Xperia Play has been the best phone ever made, the build quality is amazing the design is perfect, the speakers are great, battery life outstanding, the Camera is still great for today standards and the physical controls just make the difference, no other phone in the market offers all that.
My advice is, get an Xperia play if you mainly care about gaming and only use your phone for basic stuff like moderate messaging, phone calls, whatsapp, listening to music, taking some photos.
If you use a lot of Facebook, email, surfing the web, google app and other heavy apps then I advise to stay away from the Play, the single core and the 512mb of ram are just not enough for multitasking, no matter how much you tweak it, the experience will be annoying. Mainly due to poorly optimized apps from developers, for instance the Facebook app will make the XPlay unusable.

let me add to that many of the apps that I use.. have a min. requirement of 4.0.4+ or ICS+ and if we use Xperia play for real gaming.. we have to stay at GB or 2.3.7 .. so u would have to choose between Apps or Gaming.. so yes
Gaming wise this phone is the best.. that too cant play newer games I believe.. as time will pass newer games will have a min requirement of 4+ too I believe.. so this phone is loosing the battle everyday in that sense.

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let me add to that many of the apps that I use.. have a min. requirement of 4.0.4+ or ICS+ and if we use Xperia play for real gaming.. we have to stay at GB or 2.3.7 .. so u would have to choose between Apps or Gaming.. so yes
Gaming wise this phone is the best.. that too cant play newer games I believe.. as time will pass newer games will have a min requirement of 4+ too I believe.. so this phone is loosing the battle everyday in that sense.
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Why do you have to stay below jelly bean I believe everything works. I'm not sure about kit kat tho. But the majority the VAST majority support down to ICS which our plays do have. You can mod ICS or pick up a rom to make gaming epic. Just trust me on this one.
https://youtu.be/T7uJ_ylow3k my awesome youtube channel so many vids! 237 to be exact

not sure if anyone still visits this thread, I just got an Xperia Play (R800at) today. been playing around a bit with it (I collect unique cell phones still looking for a nice inexpensive LG Thrill (in good shape lol) and I'm done lol)
Anyway, was looking on here to see what mods and such were available. hate the low memory. wanna kill off the FB app as I prolly wont use it there. just wanna load some emu's and a streaming music app (Soma FM) . also, probably a silly question, did the market end for this phone? (the game market I mean. both the playstation app and the xperia play app (the one that starts when you open the controls) wont connect to download)
Also whats the best root method?