Hi is this soft key:
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a multi tasking soft key or recent apps soft key?
The reason I am asking is because when I swipe up all the apps, it displays no recent apps.
When I swipe an app does that mean it is killed or simply removed from the recent apps list?
If it does kill apps, then is it good for the phone to just kill apps everytime?
Someone plz answer.
Thanks.
When you swipe it kills the app. This is good.
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Asus Transformer - Revolver OC/UV
player911 said:
When you swipe it kills the app. This is good.
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Asus Transformer - Revolver OC/UV
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... kinda.
It kills the foreground process, but keeps the background task.
OP, I think its just a semantic confusion. You can call it whatever you want to
martonikaj said:
... kinda.
It kills the foreground process, but keeps the background task.
OP, I think its just a semantic confusion. You can call it whatever you want to
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But is it good for your phone, because using task killers are bad for ur phone and this is similar, hence it has the same effect right?
At least it keeps your phone's ram fresh in my opinions.
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But is it good for your phone, because using task killers are bad for ur phone and this is similar, hence it has the same effect right?
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Using automated task killers is bad for your phone. Closing/killing applications that you're no longer using is fine - it's the same thing (in theory) that happens when you exit an application by pressing the Back button.
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Using automated task killers is bad for your phone. Closing/killing applications that you're no longer using is fine - it's the same thing (in theory) that happens when you exit an application by pressing the Back button.
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Thankyou, now I understand clearly
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But is it good for your phone, because using task killers are bad for ur phone and this is similar, hence it has the same effect right?
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"Good" or "bad" is subjective. This has the effect of closing unwanted programs if you feel they're not necessary. You should never feel like you must use it for closing things. It isn't at all necessary to monitor these tasks. You can use it to just switch tasks if you'd like.
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Using automated task killers is bad for your phone. Closing/killing applications that you're no longer using is fine - it's the same thing (in theory) that happens when you exit an application by pressing the Back button.
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I'd tend to agree with this methodology. Just don't use auto task killers. Android does a better job managing RAM than you think.
Swiping those apps away kills apps but not their services. Yes it is running apps not recent apps i dont think.
On other devices I used Go Launcher for its task killer in the app tray. My kid is 5 and loads one game after another. When I get my device back (Nexus, Transformer, or Galaxy Tab) its dog slow. Lol.
I like to clean out my apps every day or so. Not a big deal but you can notice a difference is speed. Running apps can eat battery too. So I like to wipe them out. Auto Task killers are bad because its a running app itself. Just wastes more battery.
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Asus Transformer - Revolver OC/UV
player911 said:
Auto Task killers are bad because its a running app itself. Just wastes more battery.
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Auto task killers are bad because they interfere with how Android was designed to manage memory - killing a bunch of processes that Android had idling in the background just means that Android will spent time/power starting those tasks back up when you're not looking.
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In mango, if I use back button to reopen a app(mango supported), there is no annoying resuming, and it is pretty good. But if I try to reopen that app through app list or live tiles or toast notification, the app will be restart as though it has never been opened.
It's very inconvenient especially when I use a IM client. Why MS makes it like this???
Because it takes that as a relaunch which is convenient on most apps aside from games. However, it seems like you may not have found the task switcher (just assuming) if you hold the back button it pulls your 5 most recent tasks and allows for a resume.
The OP very clearly stated that the app switcher works fine. But if IM+ is already loaded and available in the app switcher, and you get an IM+ toast, wouldn't it make sense to just switch to the open instance of IM+, rather than killing that instance and reloading from scratch (which can take 20-30 seconds)?
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Because it takes that as a relaunch which is convenient on most apps aside from games. However, it seems like you may not have found the task switcher (just assuming) if you hold the back button it pulls your 5 most recent tasks and allows for a resume.
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This doesn't work with resuming Netflix. It just restarts
dimamarcel said:
This doesn't work with resuming Netflix. It just restarts
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Thats because the Netflix app is not yet updated to Windows Phone 7.5 aka Mango.
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RoboDad said:
The OP very clearly stated that the app switcher works fine. But if IM+ is already loaded and available in the app switcher, and you get an IM+ toast, wouldn't it make sense to just switch to the open instance of IM+, rather than killing that instance and reloading from scratch (which can take 20-30 seconds)?
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It is an annoying feature of the way the OS works for sure. I have also noticed with IM+ (I think, might have been gchat) that if I get a toast and I am in mid-conversation, pressing back to fast resume doesn't always add the last message from the other person to the chat even though I have had the notification for it.
This is really something that app developers should be allowed to control, some sort of "reuse previously running instance" switch.
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Because it takes that as a relaunch which is convenient on most apps aside from games. However, it seems like you may not have found the task switcher (just assuming) if you hold the back button it pulls your 5 most recent tasks and allows for a resume.
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I know the 'task switcher', but when i receve a toast notification and click it, just relaunch the app takes long.Since the app is in the task switcher, why not resume it directly.
RoboDad said:
The OP very clearly stated that the app switcher works fine. But if IM+ is already loaded and available in the app switcher, and you get an IM+ toast, wouldn't it make sense to just switch to the open instance of IM+, rather than killing that instance and reloading from scratch (which can take 20-30 seconds)?
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yes, this is exactly what i want to say.
I think the problem is in IM+. that app always takes forever to load and I don't think it supports mango
pillsburydoughman said:
I think the problem is in IM+. that app always takes forever to load and I don't think it supports mango
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Nop. It's not.
For some stupid reason WP7 doesnt support multitask for third apps. Not even resume the instance.
If you want to resume the instance, you hold the back button and choose from the lame switcher. It takes so long that it is almost better to just re open the app.
Because it's so much clever you force the user to reopen the app every time he needs it instead of including a way to force close when it needs (like, I dont know, holding the card in the fast switch?). Just like iOS/Android does.
When you resume, you have to wait another 3~4 seconds to see the message.
I tested gchat and beejive for iPhone at the same time. Sent one message, opened from each toast notification (iOS 5). iPhone is about 6 seconds faster to display your message. Now take that to a conversation. Oh, you can use fast switch, yes. So its not 6 seconds, its 'just' 4 seconds faster to EACH message.
Mango didnt saved WP7. Not for me. It just killed all my hopes. Maybe Tango/Apollo?
I'm just waiting to iPhone 4S comes to my country to say bye to my WP7. Which is bad, because I love WP7, dont like iPhone, but hate Androids. Right now WP7 just get me frustated, so my next option is iOS ;/
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I think the problem is in IM+. that app always takes forever to load and I don't think it supports mango
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exactly, IM+ is not updated to supports mango feature
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My nexus is getting absolutely killed battery wise, and the partial wakelock is mostly with this *overflow* service/process. Does anyone know what it does and how to get rid of it?
Nobody knows?
Maybe an app you've installed? Look for it on settings. It should be there.
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Type "overflow betterbatterystats" into google and the second and third links may help you.
They are talking about an app causing it but I'll leave you read it yourself.
Yep I did the google thing. nobody really knows.
spinkick said:
Yep I did the google thing. nobody really knows.
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Try eliminate apps one by one.
Freeze one, see if it is the cause, if not then move on to the next.
nodstuff said:
Try eliminate apps one by one.
Freeze one, see if it is the cause, if not then move on to the next.
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Thanks I guess. Was hoping for more but I think I might be the pioneer on this one.
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Thanks I guess. Was hoping for more but I think I might be the pioneer on this one.
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Afraid so.
But at least in the future when someone searches for overflow your solution will be there for them! Good deed for the day!
Did you get anywhere with this? It looks like I'm having the same issue too. I've only got a few apps installed on many sgs 3.
ics browser +
Spotify
G strings (music tuner)
Color note
Beautiful widgets.
Thanks.
Same here. I get this issue from time to time with my galaxy nexus. I have to reboot to get it to go away.
Ist it possible that lightflow is The Bad app .
It will logical. Cause the wakelocks are everytime when a message is coming in lightly send a command to the light notification to go on.
I think that's the app in my wakelocks.
I ll try it out.
I have the same entry with overflow on my galaxy s3. but from the list 3 posts up I only habe Beautiful widgets installed. and many other apps. I haven't installed lightflow.
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I have the same entry with overflow on my galaxy s3. but from the list 3 posts up I only habe Beautiful widgets installed. and many other apps. I haven't installed lightflow.
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I've not had this return after removing beautiful widgets. My only other offender for random high battery usage is a gtalk process, which I understand is related to google sync rather than the app itself (which has since been removed).
today I have the "overflow" process since many days back. The last weeks I had not this issue. Today I updated many apps in the market and remove "google googles".
And now, there it is. the "overflow" process is back.
Beautiful widgets is no more on my phone. I use now fancy widgets and many other programs.
I think this is a sporadic problem. I reboot my phone and looks forward.
Reboot doesn't help to remove :crying:
Why the hell the process is back.
i have the same with S3, any updates ?
not on my side.
the android 4.1 is out. but at this time only on kies. I have'nt try it out. but i think it is an user installed application that goes to "overflow"
it looks like the battery live time is the same without the overflow, so i ignore it
Have you tried posting here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
marceldy said:
i have the same with S3, any updates ?
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I'm fairly convinced it was Beautiful Widgets causing my problem.
I also found Samsung Sync was an offender for increased battery usage, disabling it has increased battery life from 2 and a bit days to 3 and a bit.
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I'm fairly convinced it was Beautiful Widgets causing my problem.
I also found Samsung Sync was an offender for increased battery usage, disabling it has increased battery life from 2 and a bit days to 3 and a bit.
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to be honest i never ever used Beautiful Widgets, yet im using lightflow ! i frozen it for few hours and till now i didnt get that problem. could it be that few apps have this problem ?
Found an old working version that was killable in running processes.
Been looking for this for a while and naturally it was right under my nose here at xda
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12890318&postcount=222
somewhere right around version 5.4 or 5.5 they modified the app to never die, when stopped from running services.
got sick of freezing the app in titanium after every use...and just stopped using it
now this old version 5.3.1 is killable right from running processes.
no more unauthorized big brother data collecting, thanks though for offering.
to install use root explorer and replace maps.apk with this version (rename it to maps.apk) in /system/app
then reboot, it will automatically install.
uninstall your current version with titanium backup first.
the latest google maps can be force closed from the app list...
its a little more menu navigating than desired to kill each time but i guess it works.
v5.3.1 can be killed from running processes and is a good solution if you dont need some minor features of the latest version
to create a widget to running processes, long press the home screen, select shortcuts, scroll to settings, select 'running processes'
just tested 5.4.0 and it remained in running processes after stopping
so this is it...for the weary...use 5.3.1
you need autorun manager. it keeps most apps from starting up on their own. works for me with the latest version of google maps.
and then you always have autorun manager, running...
one more thing i dont need
eigerzoom said:
and then you always have autorun manager, running...
one more thing i dont need
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its not a task killer that needs to be running. it modifies apps by taking away thier autostart permissions. you close it after youre done, and thats basically it.
I have the most update google maps and its never in running processes. I read somewhere that unchecking everything gps related you'll be able to close it.
Your problem could be you have apps the poll your location every so often. Even if you have gps off it'll use cell towers and get a approx. Location.
Try going into location settings and unchecking these boxes.
Specifically Googles Location Services that grants apps premission to find you.
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Then go back and kill google maps and see what happens.
Epic Ice Cream Sandwich
ok and then when i start an app that relies on these services they wont find my location like i want them to...
just saying
there's nothing wrong with v5.3.1
it works just as good as 6.x - or better imo
thanks jdee...sounds like a good solution to my issues with the new google maps
just a shame i should have to spend money on the pro version for my phone to behave the way i desire.
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ok and then when i start an app that relies on these services they wont find my location like i want them to...
just saying
there's nothing wrong with v5.3.1
it works just as good as 6.x - or better imo
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Personal preference whenever I want my location know I just turn on gps. :beer:
Epic Ice Cream Sandwich
Double post.
jdee i tried autorun manager and was unable to make it die from 'running processes'
i tried disabling receivers and also chuck norris mode.
the only way i was able to kill it was to use 'force stop' in the 'ALL' app list manager
i guess this works, just a little more menu navigation than desired.
autorun manager is useless at killing maps, unless i'm missing a setting.
also autorun manager did indeed start itself after i closed it
Am I the only person who gets great battery life and performance (even on cm9) and doesn't have to modify/kill/force stop/freeze/remove apps/remove auto start permissions/disable apps/disable services/disable functions for anything? I just use the phone. No issues, great battery, great performance, system recovers as much ram as I need when I need it. Can go a week of up time without any slow downs or excessive battery drain no problem.
Just saying/asking.
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i find the issue more of a unprescribed data collection...
doctors orders, google needs more of your pie
Zeinzu said:
Am I the only person who gets great battery life and performance (even on cm9) and doesn't have to modify/kill/force stop/freeze/remove apps/remove auto start permissions/disable apps/disable services/disable functions for anything? I just use the phone. No issues, great battery, great performance, system recovers as much ram as I need when I need it. Can go a week of up time without any slow downs or excessive battery drain no problem.
Just saying/asking.
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So far on my epic yes...right now with all the testing im doing im getting same battery life as my moment...way better performance of course...
eigerzoom said:
just tested 5.4.0 and it remained in running processes after stopping
so this is it...for the weary...use 5.3.1
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whats the point then because if don't have the newest bugs squashed out features, etc.... not to mention updated maps i hate when it says re routing because it thinks im going sideways off the side of the road
On 4.4.4 I used to be able to get 5-5:30 ost but since updating it to lollipop and beyond I nearly get 4-4:30 I want to know if anybody els has been getting this issue or how to fix it and yes all the bells and whistles are turned off
Are you using freeza Beastmode kernel? Are you on the OG5 modem? These have been my most recent bumps in battery capacity; the biggest since KitKat actually.
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Heavy usage today but ready to plugin and charge for tomorrow. The usage for apps shown is a bit higher than usual but the overall stats and SOT are darn good. Running OB7/OB7 bootloader/ customized with Xposed/OG5 modem and Beastmode kernel. Maybe the improved battery comes from the OG5 stuff.
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How do you do this??? I disabled basic everything and have my screen at half and on WiFi most of the time and nearly get 4 hours
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How do you do this??? I disabled basic everything and have my screen at half and on WiFi most of the time and nearly get 4 hours
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Debloated ROM, freeze or delete apps that waste away at the battery, use auto brightness. Look for apps that wake excessively. Have you tried L Speed Mod? It will make Google Services behave. I use that with default settings, dump third party apps' cache and browser cache (including Google Play and Google Play Services) every 12 hours on a schedule and use an app by chain fire called recently to keep apps from running so much unneeded. Watch for rogue or faulty apps in the Xposed error log. Source close browser and other apps that like to keep running with back to kill app and use an ad blocker.
But really I think it has more to do with being indoors mostly on Wi-Fi and using Wi-Fi calling that gets those results. I have to credit the 5.1.1 kernel and modem too. OB7 wasn't always this good.
Half screen brightness would most likely to bright for me. What's wrong with auto brightness? It may save you some battery.
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I used to do a lot of that disable things I didn't need like s voice and bloat but for some reaons I didn't reason calls or text and I credit that to all the mods I did with the phone so I haven't really moded in a while but since then I get bad battery life, and no I used to use auto brightness but then afew days ago I realized whats the point of not enjoying your phone how you want to. But dam you sure do a lot, none of that has any negative impacts>?
Not really. I go with what works. Some users just aren't happy with some things and change this and that until more content with it.
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i did everything you said , got recently and also l speed rom, put the freza kernel. but my question is how do you put a scheduler? and how do you find out which apps run in the back round? if you uninstall google apps and apps that are form Samsung would that effect in anyway the phone?
I use an older application I purchased a while on an older phone that needed more memory expansion for app data. Link2SD pro did that plus had the scheduler so I still use it for that rather than buying another task manager. Couldn't tell which to use or if there are better or free ones.
The L Speed Mod can be found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/tweak-l-speed-v1-0-02-02-2015-t3020138
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and what specific things did you freeze or uninstalled ? cause I did everything you said and I still got 4 hours ost
Frozen
Uninstalled
Accuweather
FlipboardBriefing FlipboardFBAppManager
FBMessenger_stub
FBPagesManager_stub
BInstagram_stub
Facebook
PlusOne
Books
Hangouts
PlayGames
talkback
WhatsApp
ItsOn
YahooLiveWeather
SmartRemote
WeatherDaemon
SprintVoicemail
KnoxAttestationAgent
KnoxSetupWizardClient
Gmail2
Bridge
Blurb
AutomationTest_FB
ID
KLMSAgent
LocationWidget
Lookout
Zone
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Okay I have a note 4 and ever since 5.0 and even 5.1 my phone with wifi on would lag .... chrome would load slow, some apps wouldn't load, app store would take minutes for everything to load, facebook, etc.....
I downloaded DNSet from app store set it to auto start and now my phone is 100% working no problems, this is after many cache wipes, factory resets....
Hope this helps someone if they are having problems like I have.
An app is worth a shot...I downloaded it, and have it set, so we will see how well it does...I notice a little bit of speed increase when opening up Web pages and apps. If this keeps up, thanks for the info.
I use package disabler. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en
Thanks to you both! These apps rock!
Yeah, package disabler made this phone way quicker and improved battery life dramatically. Thank you for the suggestion.
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What apps are safe to disable?
ramharder said:
What apps are safe to disable?
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The app knows what is safe. You hit remove all bloatware and it does it for you. I had to turn back on my calendar and a few things, but its really easy.
Dnset made my browser easily 10x faster.
Yeah I just used the other app with DNSet and now my phone is like it was when I first bought it.
Just downloaded both of these and they've worked wonders! Only complain is that DNSet leaves the icon in my notification tray all the time.
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Just downloaded both of these and they've worked wonders! Only complain is that DNSet leaves the icon in my notification tray all the time.
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Long press the notification in the pull down, tap the little "i." Then uncheck "show notifications."
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Long press the notification in the pull down, tap the little "i." Then uncheck "show notifications."
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Thanks, I just did this but priority notifications for it were already turned off:
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I've noticed that when on WiFi (on 5.1.1) that my battery drains at least twice as fast than when it's off. Could DNSet or Package Disabled apps mentioned here correct this problem?
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Thanks, I just did this but priority notifications for it were already turned off:
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HUUUUUGE screenshot, LOL. :D
That's odd. Normally there are 2 options: Set as Priority and Block. Block is missing and would've blocked all notifications from that app. So for some reason, the app designer decided that the notification is necessary and should never be removed :(
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I don't know about DNSet since I'm not actually using it, but Package Disabler might at least help increase battery life in other areas, causing the wifi drain to be less noticeable.
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I could not get DNSet to work, but I use package disabler and greenify. Really improved my battery life.
So after installing Package Disabler I can't save any screen writing I do. When I go to save it just says, "Screen Write has stopped". I've gone through the list of packages that are disabled and I've re-enabled everything that looked like it could be related to the S-Pen but no dice. Anyone else experienced this or have any ideas?
I use S NOTE all the time and no issues with Package Disabler. Try rebooting your phone after enabling packages possibly related.
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I've noticed that when on WiFi (on 5.1.1) that my battery drains at least twice as fast than when it's off. Could DNSet or Package Disabled apps mentioned here correct this problem?
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I have this same issue; not sure what's going on. Haven't been able to rectify it. Luckily the only time I'm on WiFi is when I'm home and can charge, but it is very annoying.
Package Disabler Pro app disable my Message app. Can't text anymore. Don't use Disable All Bloatware feature guys
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For spen - screen write has stopped
I had to reenable MyScript Resource Manager.