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I NEED HELP: [Q] S-ON and phone boot loops... did i brick my phone?

i was going between ROMS trying out different versions. then i installed Vision BaconBits 0.3 on a Modaco DESIRE Z rom (i know, i know) & now the phone is stuck in a boot loop.
then i noticed i couldn't revert back to the stock ROM like i've done before. i wiped & tried again, but to no avail.
says MAIN VERSION is older or something like that.
i even tried the Modaco ROM again too, but nada. it fails.
oh yeah... and for some reason i got S-ON again. i'm like wtf?
so... did i brick my phone? or is there a way to get it going again?

btw, i did install ClockworkMod Recovery for G2 & did a back up before i tried out the DESIRE Z ROM.

DJ ELITE said:
i was going between ROMS trying out different versions. then i installed Vision BaconBits 0.3 on a Modaco DESIRE Z rom (i know, i know) & now the phone is stuck in a boot loop.
then i noticed i couldn't revert back to the stock ROM like i've done before. i wiped & tried again, but to no avail.
says MAIN VERSION is older or something like that.
i even tried the Modaco ROM again too, but nada. it fails.
oh yeah... and for some reason i got S-ON again. i'm like wtf?
so... did i brick my phone? or is there a way to get it going again?
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it sounds like your phone is screwed!if there truly is no way to fix this return it for hinge issues or something,even pop the hinge if you have to lol

Try to get into clock work wipe if you can the system should try to reinstall stock , or see if you have adb access and then you can go from there . Good luck
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

DJ ELITE said:
btw, i did install ClockworkMod Recovery for G2 & did a back up before i tried out the DESIRE Z ROM.
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So your not able to Volume Down + Power and get into clockwork still? If so then why couldnt you just restore the backup you made.

thx for the expedient reponse...
bled82 said:
Try to get into clock work wipe if you can the system should try to reinstall stock , or see if you have adb access and then you can go from there . Good luck
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the phone boot loops. how do i get in CWM?
userfriendlyme said:
So your not able to Volume Down + Power and get into clockwork still? If so then why couldnt you just restore the backup you made.
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i can def do the Volume Down + Power. how does that get me in to CWM?

I'm still new to this so take my advice with a grain of salt but I think that "Main version is older issue" can be avoided by using the hex editor to change the build number on the ROM. Try changing the version with the hex editor as per this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831398
and then try to flash it. Hopefully thats all you need to do.

pull the battery, wait a couple seconds and put back in. now hold the volume down button and press power. the phone will boot into fastboot. use volume down key to select recovery and hit the power button to confirm. if CW is still on your phone it will load, if you have s-on idk if it will load without su privilages or not im not a dev but try it.
edit: i have soft bricked my g1 like 10 times, the main thing to remember is backup, wipe wiPE WIPE! and follow instructions to a T.

DJ ELITE said:
i can def do the Volume Down + Power. how does that get me in to CWM?
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If you can get vol dwn + pwr to work, then you can scroll to recovery. from there, you should be able to restore your backup from rom manager. If it's not in that one, then hold trackpad button + power and scroll to recovery.

if you can get into the clockwork recovery and can successfully get adb to recognize the phone, try the downgrade from OTA. it will restore your phone back to out of the box.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831398
you might need a usb microsd reader to get the files onto and off of the sd card

thx for the reponses...
Azrael3123 said:
I'm still new to this so take my advice with a grain of salt but I think that "Main version is older issue" can be avoided by using the hex editor to change the build number on the ROM. Try changing the version with the hex editor as per this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831398
and then try to flash it. Hopefully thats all you need to do.
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yikes... sounds a lil too experimental to me. thx for chiming in tho. truly appreciated.
EdTeach1680 said:
pull the battery, wait a couple seconds and put back in. now hold the volume down button and press power. the phone will boot into fastboot. use volume down key to select recovery and hit the power button to confirm. if CW is still on your phone it will load, if you have s-on idk if it will load without su privilages or not im not a dev but try it.
edit: i have soft bricked my g1 like 10 times, the main thing to remember is backup, wipe wiPE WIPE! and follow instructions to a T.
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yeah... i don't see CMW.
digikid said:
If you can get vol dwn + pwr to work, then you can scroll to recovery. from there, you should be able to restore your backup from rom manager. If it's not in that one, then hold trackpad button + power and scroll to recovery.
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in RECOVERY i don't see ROM MANAGER. just the standard:
Rebooty system now
Apply sdcard:update.zip
Wipe data/factory reset
Wipe cache partition

thx for the response.
pr0naLd said:
if you can get into the clockwork recovery and can successfully get adb to recognize the phone, try the downgrade from OTA. it will restore your phone back to out of the box.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831398
you might need a usb microsd reader to get the files onto and off of the sd card
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i'm using my old HTC Rhodium to rename/transer files on the SD.
unfortunately... no CMW that i can see.

I can understand your hesitation but if you read through the post you will see that many people have tested it and it should work fine. At this point its the only way to downgrade to stock due to the "Main version is older" issue and, assuming you truly can't access clockwork recovery, I don't see what other method there is. Whats really got me twisted is the S-on part; I could've predicted some issue by flashing BB onto the Z rom but I wouldn't have seen that coming. Is it even possible to flash anything while S-on is enabled?

maybe you can use an offical update.zip that is signed. i dunno

DJ ELITE said:
in RECOVERY i don't see ROM MANAGER. just the standard:
Rebooty system now
Apply sdcard:update.zip
Wipe data/factory reset
Wipe cache partition
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Hmmm...then you didn't install the CWM recovery. You should try to flash the rom that shipped with the phone. You can get it here. To do that, you need to get it onto your memory card as update.zip, then boot to recovery and choose "Apply sdcard:update.zip" and then you should have a bootable phone again.

thx for the reponses...
Azrael3123 said:
I can understand your hesitation but if you read through the post you will see that many people have tested it and it should work fine. At this point its the only way to downgrade to stock due to the "Main version is older" issue and, assuming you truly can't access clockwork recovery, I don't see what other method there is. Whats really got me twisted is the S-on part; I could've predicted some issue by flashing BB onto the Z rom but I wouldn't have seen that coming. Is it even possible to flash anything while S-on is enabled?
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don't get me wrong, i feel u. i may have no choice but to try that. i'm getting desperate.
however, the current ROM loaded is the Modaco DESIRE Z w/the Vision BaconBits 0.3 updated to it... and after that, it kept boot looping. plus the fact that i have S-ON.
supergear said:
maybe you can use an offical update.zip that is signed. i dunno
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have em. renamed em. tried em. (e.g.: PC10IMG.zip[, updated.zip)

oh that sucks
I was stuck in the same boat as you were. I had a stock rom permarooted and messed up editting on of the /system/ files. and got stuck with endless reboot. i then flashed this: [ROM] Desire Z Sense on the G2 (via HBOOT) because it was the only rom out at the time. It successfully loaded, but i wanted to go back to stock. i then flashed the OTB rom and got stuck with a desire z rom with s-on. No other rom would flash so i proceeded to temp-root and do the downgrade from OTA.

You lost root. Have to install the PC10.img and re-root.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

But in order to edit the files necessary to flash down to the stock ROM, he needs to have at least temp root so he can pull and edit the misc.img (I think). If he has S-on and is stuck in a boot loop, how can he access visionary or terminal emulator in order to set up that temp root? I think that's the biggest issue unless I'm missing something.

Shouldn't the stock rom have everything that's needed? Plus it's signed so it should flash with s-on.

*Official* Clockwork Recovery

1. Odin this fie, using PDA section:
http://adrynalyne.us/files/odin/cwm_recovery_test4_adryn.tar
2. Download this file and put it on the root of your sdcard:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2056318/update.zip
3. Boot to recovery, either from manual three button method (down, up vol +power) or using something like quick boot on the market.
4. Apply update.zip.
5. Profit!
Thanks:
bubby323
imnuts
Logan302
Trailblazer
jt1134 (his update.zip, very awesome)
use at your own risk. I am not responsible for anything you do to your device!

OK I'm in trouble now, I odin the first file and copy the update.zip to the sc card. After I do a manual boot to the boot loader the camera button does not activate anything I can not start the update.zip or reboot. If I pull the battery and reboot it just boot back to the boot loader again. Please advice I need my phone back soon.
Thanks
Update:
if I odin the "cont_cwm_recovery_2.tar.md5" file from the other post the camera button will activate the update.zip but got some error but reboot just fine. I think the odin file made in this post is for device that has the home button on the phone and no camera button map. Still no CWM but at least the phone boots normally now.

kdoweb1 said:
OK I'm in trouble now, I odin the first file and copy the update.zip to the sc card. After I do a manual boot to the boot loader the camera button does not activate anything I can not start the update.zip or reboot. If I pull the battery and reboot it just boot back to the boot loader again. Please advice I need my phone back soon.
Thanks
Update:
if I odin the "cont_cwm_recovery_2.tar.md5" file from the other post the camera button will activate the update.zip but got some error but reboot just fine. I think the odin file made in this post is for device that has the home button on the phone and no camera button map. Still no CWM but at least the phone boots normally now.
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Lol... Flash the original recovery that is in this post again... Then use the soft key pad (all the way to the left) to make selections... The camera button is no longer used...

Sorry, yes, the key mappings are a bit wonky.

can yyou say HE FREAKED OUT! LOL!! flash orignal VZ image your good if you dont know what your doing unless you can afford a new phone i would research and play with an old phone first..

OK, I odin back the test 4 file and apply the update.zip install the rom manager form the market place and flash CWM 2.5.0.4 but how can boot to CWM?

kdoweb1
Check this post the first link gives step by on how to get CWR installed and the 2nd how to install the ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11188059&postcount=17

odpz said:
kdoweb1
Check this post the first link gives step by on how to get CWR installed and the 2nd how to install the ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11188059&postcount=17
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Thank you, I'll give it a try when I get home. What is the difference between official version of ClockworkMod Recovery for Samsung Continuum rather than a custom port made by adrynalyne? From what I can gather from the read is that the official will boot directly to CWM everytime rather than having to apply the update.zip to boot it CWM? In any case I'm much more comfortable flashing ROMs and kernel now that I can do backup in CWM.
Thanks again

Ok... I got this to install and I am able to apply the update and get into clockwork recovery. How do I get it only load CWR each time now instead of the factory recovery?
I keep having to use the default recovery to get into CWR...
I love the fact i am finally able to make a solid backup of this damn phone though!

dottat said:
Ok... I got this to install and I am able to apply the update and get into clockwork recovery. How do I get it only load CWR each time now instead of the factory recovery?
I keep having to use the default recovery to get into CWR...
I love the fact i am finally able to make a solid backup of this damn phone though!
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The only way to get that to happen, is to apply a voodoo kernal.
Sent from my space time Continuum using the XDA App.

I have the voodoo kernel installed.. didn't seem to work...
**edit.. perhaps I need to allow the lag-fix to change the partition data first.. i'll try that and report back.

dottat said:
I have the voodoo kernel installed.. didn't seem to work...
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When you reboot to recovery, how are you doing it? ROM Manager can not properly boot into CWM on voodoo kernels

I tried to boot it using both volume keys. Now it's stuck in a bootloop saying something like "miscooperation"

dottat said:
I tried to boot it using both volume keys. Now it's stuck in a bootloop saying something like "miscooperation"
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oops, i hit the thanks button >.< oh well...
Anyway, did you do a battery pull after you activated voodoo? You had to let it convert your whole system! I don't know what else could be wrong.

Yeah.. I let it convert.. it booted up fine when done. I then shut it off and tried to reboot and go into the CWR menu. It then boot looped. I was able to manually get to CWR through the stock menu and am in the process of restoring right now....

dottat said:
Yeah.. I let it convert.. it booted up fine when done. I then shut it off and tried to reboot and go into the CWR menu. It then boot looped. I was able to manually get to CWR through the stock menu and am in the process of restoring right now....
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oh... Well, that's good at least.

Ok.. got it to flash the voodoo kernel again and now all I get is the Cwm recovery menu. Not sure what i can do to get this thing to load an OS again.

Signature verification fail on update.zip
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Downloaded update.zip from addictive tips. Booted into the red colored clockwork once. Flashed DL17 Root Deodex etc. Can't boot into that recovery again. Been trying and trying.

AWFUL
So I did everything as instructed and used odin to flash recovery. now I'm trying to get CWM on my device going into boot mood. Error message says signature failed and that "update.zip gone" HELP!!!

jlt8604
I would copy the update.zip again on the root of your sdcard and try the manual recovery procedure.

trying to figure out flash recovery?

I am trying to root my EVO. I once had it rooted and unrooted it...i think...with unrEVOked. I wanted to root the phone and install a custom rom again but I cant seem to get it to root.
I have tried unrEVOked(and followed all the easy steps to root on a forum....more then once), and once I got the initial screen were it sais to plug the phone in and make sure it has USBdebugging on, I do just that and nothing happens. so....
I tried to use Simple Root .1. Once again, found a forum on how to root with this program and followed the steps...more then once...and still no luck. With Simple Root I watched a video and in the video the prompt screen said that it was pushing a file to the phone and then it is suppose to go to the HBOOT screen....which does not happen on my phone, it skips that step and tells me to go to step 2, but I haven't completed step 1 yet....
------So that problem might not be a problem. I guess I AM still rooted. HBOOT screen sais S-OFF, but i dont have unrevoked on the phone anymore. I was told in another thread that I am still rooted and i need to find a flash recovery because when i go into recovery from HBOOT sceen it gives me a !red triangle!
So i guess my question is how do I go about getting a flash recovery and what do I have to do to acutally use that recovery instead of the stock recovery??
Also i was thinking about using the ROM "EVO ZONE" Any thoughts on that ROM??
Thanks!
dizl.evo

Im guessing you have the latest OTA? If so, you cannot root.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176695
This is what i have figured out already.....
I also was doing a little poking around and figured out that i did not have a PC36IMG.zip on my SDcard. I just put it on my card and started HBOOT and now it is asking me if i want to start an update....yes or no?

If that is the recovery zip, then yes let it update
We're comin from a pure power source.

ok, after i do that will i still need to flash recover? or will i be able to find the custom rom then??
And does anybody know anything about the EVO Zone rom?
durring the update it has 11 things that it tries to update....all of them seem to update fine with the exception of number 8 and 9. both are labeled "TP". The first one does nothing and the second one sais it is bypassed. I've tried twice and it keeps bypassing. Is that suppose to happen??

BUMP...Does anybody know if there is anything i can do??
Thanks..

You probably ran a PC36IMG of an RUU or something other than a recovery. You can download Amon Ra recovery from my dropbox here: http://db.tt/WP0beNa
It's named properly, just delete the other PC36IMG from your SD card and replace it with this one. Run it through the bootloader the same way that you ran the other one. When it finishes, decline the prompt to reboot and select recovery from the list. You should see the white splashscreen then boot into Amon Ra 2.3.
As for the rom, I'm not familiar with it. If I were you, I'd flash a popular rom that you know is reliable. If you use the default Sense launcher, be sure to flash a Sense rom.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)

I'll try to break this down for you as easily as possible.
1) s-off allows you to flash a custom recovery for installing roms. It means signature off which is to say you can install roms that have not been signed by HTC. This ability is critical to flashing and you're on the right track if you have it.
2) Currently your phone has no custom recovery on it, that's the red triangle bit. In order to get one on there, search the development section for the Amon_Ra recovery and download the PC36IMG.zip. Copy the zip to the main part of your SD card, then reboot and hold the volume key after the screen goes black. Your bootloader (the screen that tells you s-off or on) will automatically read and try to install the file.
Hit volume up for yes, let it do its thing then volume up again to reboot.
3) Hold volume down while rebooting to get into recovery. From here, go to usb mode. Copy your sdcard contents to your hard drive. Then turn off usb mode, go to wipe, and wipe it all 3 times. Go back to usb mode.
4) copy the Rom you want to flash to the sdcard and turn off usb mode again. Go into flash from zip, find your Rom and tell it to flash. Once this is complete, reboot and enjoy the new Rom.
Hope this helps you out.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

Thanks for all the help, But when I try and click to download Amon it opens up a blank page and nothing happens....
There any way to download the file else where?

I don't have the link on hand but there is an Amon Thread in the Development section,should be able to download it from there.Edit http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026&highlight=amon+ra+recovery here's the link to Amons Thread

blank screen on download
rght clicking and choosing "open in new tab" solved that for me

Umyou r s-off so ur good. Find an amon_RA pc36img n put that on root of sd-card n also whatever rom u wanna flash. Boot to bootloader n yes to update then flash rom.
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Defy not working :(

Hello everyone,
first of all,I want to thank all those involved in this forums.
I'm here trying to have a solution for my defy..I bought it 1 week ago and I used it only the first day!!
My friend told me that I can upgrade android to 2.3,and I can get more apps with 2.3,so he tried to upgrade it but it didn't work.
once I turn on the device,Motorola Logo appear,then Galnet MIUI appear,and it loops unlimited times,it load for 4 seconds then loop again..
after..I told the person who made the video "how to upgrade to 2.3" about my problem..he recommended me to flash by RSD Lite and 3.4.3_11-Stock.UKTmobile_BLUR.sbf ,and then I did everything as he told me but it didn't work..this time I get White Motorola logo with Blur word and it loops unlimited time.
then I flashed again but this time I replaced the sbf file with "JRDNEM_U3_3.4.3-36-1.1.sbf",also it didn't work..this time I get Red Motorola Logo then ANDROID word.it seems to be loop.
I don't know whats wrong,can someone tell me how exactly to flash ?
Because when the program says Please Manually Power up this Phone..idk what to do,it's already on!!so I remove the battery then I power up.
help me please I was happy with 2.2,can I get my defy back to 2.2 just like when I bought it??
my english bad sorry
thanks a lot,

Boot into stock recovery and wipe data / cache. Then flash again any 2.2.2 sbf file. To update into stock gingerbread, your phone must have custom recovery to perform the nandroid restore follow with flashing fixed sbf.
Sent from my awesome Moto Defy: Stock Rooted Gingerbread 2.3.4 - XDA Premium

farsight73 said:
Boot into stock recovery and wipe data / cache. Then flash again any 2.2.2 sbf file. To update into stock gingerbread, your phone must have custom recovery to perform the nandroid restore follow with flashing fixed sbf.
Sent from my awesome Moto Defy: Stock Rooted Gingerbread 2.3.4 - XDA Premium
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Thanks a lot for replying,
Please excuse me iam really noob
I used to boot into stock recovery by Pressing [Volume Down] when i see Blue Led Light,but it doesn't work any more,help plz.

UP T_T,Please help.

The blue led light is the 2nd-init sequence to enter into custom boot menu.
It definitely gone when you flash another full sbf. But then you have the stock recovery to perform the full wipe.
Booting into stock: Start up phone and press vol- until android logo and follow with pressing vol- and vol+. Now you should be in stock recovery. Do the full factory wipe here.
Next boot into bootloader: Start up phone and press vol+ until you see bootloader screen. Don't worry anything stating in this screen.
Next flash your phone to froyo 2.2.2 sbf. If it still failed. You need to use another Rsdlite version or flash with another PC. It happen alot of peoples having flashing issue which is cause by incompatible PC.(Dont ask me why).
Make sure battery is in good state before flashing.

THanks a lot,I used differant farmware and it works!
thanks farsight73,

defy not working
Hi,
I instaled cm9 on my defy. Now when I try to turn it on, can't. Also cant open recovery, cause there is error: "busybox was not created in footfs". And when I open recoveri, it says: "E:Error in /system/bootmenu/script/recovery.sh (result: no such file or directory) Could someone please help me?

mateja22 said:
Hi,
I instaled cm9 on my defy. Now when I try to turn it on, can't. Also cant open recovery, cause there is error: "busybox was not created in footfs". And when I open recoveri, it says: "E:Error in /system/bootmenu/script/recovery.sh (result: no such file or directory) Could someone please help me?
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Please, read the thread, farsight73 posted the solution

LeonardoJegigzem said:
Please, read the thread, farsight73 posted the solution
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Didn't work for me :/ I still have the blue light... but I can't go in stock recovery... after that there is exclamation mark and nothing happens...

mateja22 said:
Didn't work for me :/ I still have the blue light... but I can't go in stock recovery... after that there is exclamation mark and nothing happens...
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Can you access 2ndinit or Stock recovery by pressing both the volume key when blue light flashes??
I'm sure you can access Boot loader. If recovery not working then you may flash your phone with Froyo SBF using RSD lite.
Refer to below mentioned article for more info on this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216982
Hope this helps!!

Rajneeshgadge17 said:
Can you access 2ndinit or Stock recovery by pressing both the volume key when blue light flashes??
I'm sure you can access Boot loader. If recovery not working then you may flash your phone with Froyo SBF using RSD lite.
Refer to below mentioned article for more info on this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216982
Hope this helps!!
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I resolved it... thanks!

mateja22 said:
I resolved it... thanks!
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Congrats!!

Unable to get into Clockworkmod

Hi Guys,
I am not sure if this exists on the forums but I am unable to find a solution.
I am trying to boot into my CWM. When I reboot and hit the power and volume up button it takes me to the Motorola flash tool. If I reboot with the power button and volume down it takes me to system recovery. I somehow got it into CWM but have no idea what I pressed.
Any ideas?
Thanks

vol down not vol up

Have u installed cwr?
Sent from my MB525 using xda premium

aks.techscience said:
Have u installed cwr?
Sent from my MB525 using xda premium
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I have it installed. I managed to install it and get into it previously with 2nd init. but without 2nd init I am battling.
I have tried volume down. that is when I get the "android system recovery utility" and not CWM

hey boswald did u solve ur problem ? and how please? coz i think im having the same problem once i install 2ndInit it says success but i never get into CWM and my phone keep rebooting on Motorola Logo and i have to flash again !.

Hey,
I landed up re-flashing. I then installed the new bootmenu and CWM (5). I then installed Sndinit and managed to get into the custom recovery where I installed CM9 and the google apps.
When I now hit the reboot in CM9 I have the option to go into recovery from there.
I did read somewhere though that when the little light goes blue to hit the down arrow and that is suppose to take you into the custom recovery. That worked for me afterwards but not sure if it was because I re-flashed and installed again.
Hope that helps.

How did you install a new bootmenu please ???

Monzer, when you install bootmenu are you installing the .apk and then opening the app and then clicking to install 2nd init? This is the right procedure! after you do this reboot your phone and watch for blue led to flash during boot, hit volume down once it flashes blue.
What 2nd init version are you installing? here is the latest http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=792601&d=1322064151
Are you trying to flash CM7?
There is a very old version of CWM that should be suitable if all else fails you. It should work just fine to flash CM7 but not so sure about CM9. However if you want to flash CM9 You could use this old version of CWM to flash CM7 which will in turn install a new version of 2nd init which is definitely suitable for flashing CM9. This old CWM "might" work for flashing CM9 but I dunno if I would try or not! Download in my attachment below!
You MUST enable USB debugging to install.
copy the apk to your sdcard and use a file manager to install it then open the app in your app drawer and choose to install the custom recovery (with USB dubugging ON)
THIS STEP IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!
AFTER INSTALLING THE CUSTOM RECOVERY DISABLE USB DEBUGGING.
You enter CWM by again opening the app and choosing reboot to recovery (with USB debuggind OFF)

thanks alot zyxwvut for replaying i really appreciate it , well im trying to install MS2Ginger , and the bootmenu i'v downloaded there was no .apk file in it ;s , there is META-INF and System folders in it , ok i'v downloaded the custom recovery u gave me should this do the work ?? i thought i can only flash CM7 and MS2Ginger only using 2ndInit !! so now i can flash MS2Ginger using custom recovery instead of using 2ndInit right ???

The old cwm I provided will not work for ms2ginger 2.1 because it doesn't give you options to restore devtree etc. You should install 2nd init provided by walter79 on the ms2ginger page for this. I don't quite understand why 2nd unit wont install for you. I've never had a problem. The old cwm I provided should be used only to install cm7
EDIT: the old cwm should work just fine to install ms2ginger 2.0 lite but not ms2ginger 2.1
Btw the old cwm backup directory is: apkrev/backup
Instead of: clockworkmod/backup
Honestly try the link for 2nd init I provided in my post I just can't imagine why it wont work. Seems crazy.
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I really dont know whats wrong with 2ndInit i did install it once long time ago , could it be coz i fully flashed to 2.3.4 and i downgraded ? when i install 2ndInit it says success but i still can read that recovery 2ndinit NOT currntly installed the led is green tho but once i reboot , it keeps rebooting over and over and the only way to fix it is going thro the long downgrading method that starting from flashing the unique chinese eclair ...ect and i did all 2ndint versions not sure what els to do ! is there any other way to flash MS2Ginger or maybe other way to install 2ndint not by WIFI , i just dont understand why they use internet connection to dl it -_- thanks for your time btw .

You never even get a blue light when rebooting? I don't know if the downgrade from 2.3.4 is your issue or not, maybe. The downgrade is a dirty method and could cause problems maybe but idk because I never flashed 2.3.4 I can ask around the Dev section for you
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nope never get a blue light , will yo do that ? it would be a life saver dude
Edit : one more thing is 2ndInit installed once it say success and the led turn into green regardless that it wrote its not currently installed , and how to install 2ndinit using url it might work who knows, a desperate man would try anything

boswald said:
Hi Guys,
I am not sure if this exists on the forums but I am unable to find a solution.
I am trying to boot into my CWM. When I reboot and hit the power and volume up button it takes me to the Motorola flash tool. If I reboot with the power button and volume down it takes me to system recovery. I somehow got it into CWM but have no idea what I pressed.
Any ideas?
Thanks
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None of the methods you are using can actually get you into cwm. The correct method is:
1. Switch off the phone. After the phone is completely powered down:
2. Long press the power button.
3. Wait for the blue led light to appear.
4. When it appears, immediately press Vol. Down button.
5. Now you'll find yourself in cwm bootmenu.
Note : Pressing power and Vol. Down button on powering up will only take you to the stock recovery.
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