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Headphones (with mic)

Hey guys, today I tried a pair of apple and sony headphones both with mic and controls. Both headphones were detected by the Aria and showed the little headset icon in the notification bar. Audio worked perfect, but the microphone did not work on either set. I then opened the htc ones and they worked perfectly fine. the apple and sony's both show the mic is being detected but no sound is picked up. Any Ideas as to why this may be? Anyone else try any other headphone brands?

Having the same issue!
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I got this reply from HTC
Hi, I'm Victor, and I will be glad to assist you today. We do not recommend certain brands of accessories for our devices. We have headphones with remote available from the following website. http://shopamerica.htc.com/accessories.htm?prId=37298 You can also check out http://www.htcdepot.com for additional accessories that is available for your device as well. If you have any other questions feel free to reply. You may also enjoy http://www.htc.com/us/community/, our customer-based forum, which has a plethora of information on HTC devices. I would also like to invite you to participate in a customer satisfaction survey located at http://survey.htc.com/worldwide/. I hope you have a great day!
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These guys! My headphones cost me around 120 bucks! Granted I did get some use out of them with the iphone, but come on...I even asked the at&t rep that sold me the phone specifically about that.What an uber-douche.let me know if you find anything else out. Or a decent pair of headphones that will comply with htc standards.lol
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I want the skull candy 50/50 they are about 40 bucks, I guess I'll email skullcandy next. Worst come to worst I buy them and return them right away!

Were the sony's made for the iphone? I thought that the iphone was the one with the non-standard writing... So if the sony's were also made for the iphone then I would question whether it was htc or apple who is non-standard.
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Yeah they are my brothers sonys for his iphone 4, the HTC mic'd from my aria worked fine on his iphone...

pcruz said:
I want the skull candy 50/50 they are about 40 bucks, I guess I'll email skullcandy next. Worst come to worst I buy them and return them right away!
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Keep us updated with that, I was looking at those as well
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I purchased a set of iFrogz EarPolution headphones at the recommendation of the sales rep at Best Buy. They work fine. The single button controls several functions depending on the mode of the phone.
1) it acts as the start / pause mode of the default media player. Apparently it will play what ever is in queue on the player
2) answer the phone on incoming call or hang up in an existing call
3) long hold and no active call goes to the standard voice activation commands
I have been using these for over 2 weeks and they are pretty good.

Just fyi, I'm not sure of the model number, but the headphones that I was referring to in my earlier post are made by klipsch. They are definitely high end headphones, and they definitely do not work with phone calls on the aria! The only button that does work for the music player, is the center button. And all it does its turn the music on and off.I've tried several different pairs with a mic, the only ones that work are the pair that came with the phone. I'm also assuming that the klipsch etc... were made for the iphone as that was my last phone and they all worked. so I'm guessing that apple has the non standards. Final answer, if they work with the iphone, they WON'T work with htc.
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Check out the skullcandy website and look up the FMJ
I have these, I can confirm the mic works though it is quite loud. Plus, music sounds great on these.
I'll also let you in on a secret, that may or may not work anyway. When your headphones are out of warranty, and cannot be worked on anymore, they give you a coupon code for 50% off of a new pair, generally you can find these codes online, I have bought a few pairs this way in the past.

Thought I would mention that the Scosche HP155m do not work with aria, the headphones do but not the mic. Seems strange as the plug matches closely with the stock earbuds.
Anyway, felt I should mention it

I got a set of Klipsch Image S2M from tigerdirect.com and they seem to work quite nicely, both as headset and microphone. The noise cancelling is due to the tight fit in the ear (multiple sizes included), but works well. There is a single button on the mic and it controls play/pause when using doubleTwist media player and hangs up the phone when on a call.

So different headphones WILL work w/ the aria. Right?

for listening to audio, any headphones work fine. for having audio/voice, only certain ones will work.

Headphones with built in controls

Im used to using my iphone headphones with the built-in mix and music controls (lost them). Was wondering if any earphones with these features will work with the DX to answer/hang up calls and control the music player.
Im on my way to best buy for an unrelated purchase but would like to know what options I have before I get misled by a sales agent there.
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I have the Motorokr S9. They are bluetooth. I really like them. I have been looking to upgrade and there are a lot more out since I first purchased. I would definitely do some research online before buying from Best Buy.
Update: I went out and upgraded from the S9 to the S9-HD. They are huge improvement from the old model. The sound is so much better. Battery life is still about the same.

jgraham4598 said:
I have the Motorokr S9. They are bluetooth. I really like them. I have been looking to upgrade and there are a lot more out since I first purchased. I would definitely do some research online before buying from Best Buy.
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+1 for the S9

V-MODA Vibe Duo Earbud Headset (Gunmetal Rouge)
Try doing an amazon search for those.
I ordered them a few weeks before I got my DX cause I knew I would need some headphones. And was I pleasently surprised! These 26$ earbuds EASILY surpass the quality of my friends' $100 Bose and $60 Skull candy or w/e earbuds. Plus they are very well built, with a braided cord and a cell phone call start/end button. Oh and the color matches the droid x.
Try em out! I guarantee you won't be disappointed

GoldenCyn said:
Im used to using my iphone headphones with the built-in mix and music controls (lost them). Was wondering if any earphones with these features will work with the DX to answer/hang up calls and control the music player.
Im on my way to best buy for an unrelated purchase but would like to know what options I have before I get misled by a sales agent there.
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The Beats line by the Doctor has Control Talk, which may or may not work completely with Android (leaning towards may not). I believe only the pause
and volume control work, not the next/prev track. Not cheap though. I'm looking at getting the Gaga's for my sister. They better tuck her into bed at
night too for $130!

I want the beats sooooo bad. Can't justify that kinda $ though.
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bad4u6669 said:
+1 for the S9
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+2, I've had mine since I had my old 6700, they work great.

I'd also +1 the S9HD's if those blasted ear bud pieces weren't so prone to falling out and getting lost while being transported in a pocket or getting pulled out of a pocket (I can't use them any more b/c this happened to all 3 sizes of ear buds, and I have yet to find a way to purchase replacements w/o buying the entire headset again).
I have a set of rocketfish over-the-ear BT stereo headphones w/ music and call controls. They work quite well and though they take some adjustment on my head due to me wearing glasses, they are also fairly comfortable..... and they're not at all as expensive as the name-brand motorokr's (motorola if you couldn't tell).

I got the V-Mode Vibe Duos too! lol
I agree, very good pair of earphones. Only catch is that the default music player wont pic up the control button. No big deal tho cause you got a nice widget on the lockscreen that allows u to pause, forward or rewind.
I got the Dr Monster Beats too but i THINK they are fake. Friend gave em to me, anyways, the v-modas sound wayyy better and have a very nice deep rich bass!
If you go to amazon you will read a lot of negative feedback, to be honest my v-modas still working just fine!

+1 Motorola S9-HD
I use mine every day.

These are nearly the only headphones/ear buds in existence that will have all the controls work properly on your phone with.
http://www.zagg.com/audio/smart-buds.php
Virtually all headphones/ear buds with audio controls are designed for Apple products. Apple is a terrible company, they make everything proprietary; they switched the mic and ground connectors so they could force manufacturers to make headphones that would only work properly on their bass-ackwards newer Apple products.
Products like these:
http://www.bose.com/controller?url=...mobile_solution/index.jsp&model=mie2i_headset
http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/home_en.nsf/root/private_headphones_sport-line_504603
http://www.skullcandy.com/shop/50-50-black-red.html
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666138350
http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/products/image-s5i-rugged-overview/
Will only work on newer-generation iPods/iPhones/etc. because Apple switched the microphone and ground connectors, so when you plug any of the above-linked products into a regular, worldwide standard, normal headphone jack like we have on our Droid X and that a gazillion other devices have, the buttons work sporadically or not at all.
God, I hate Apple. Support Zagg for being nearly the only company in existence to recognize what Apple has done, and accordingly provided a product for everyone else with. Apple would do the same thing with Bluetooth if they could, but they don't own the Bluetooth standard, thankfully; which is why all your audio controls work on any Bluetooth-enabled device out there. (as long as it's not a really old one)

Roland Deschain said:
These are nearly the only headphones/ear buds in existence that will have all the controls work properly on your phone with.
http://www.zagg.com/audio/smart-buds.php
Virtually all headphones/ear buds with audio controls are designed for Apple products. Apple is a terrible company, they make everything proprietary; they switched the mic and ground connectors so they could force manufacturers to make headphones that would only work properly on their bass-ackwards newer Apple products.
Products like these:
http://www.bose.com/controller?url=...mobile_solution/index.jsp&model=mie2i_headset
http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/home_en.nsf/root/private_headphones_sport-line_504603
http://www.skullcandy.com/shop/50-50-black-red.html
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666138350
http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/products/image-s5i-rugged-overview/
Will only work on newer-generation iPods/iPhones/etc. because Apple switched the microphone and ground connectors, so when you plug any of the above-linked products into a regular, worldwide standard, normal headphone jack like we have on our Droid X and that a gazillion other devices have, the buttons work sporadically or not at all.
God, I hate Apple. Support Zagg for being nearly the only company in existence to recognize what Apple has done, and accordingly provided a product for everyone else with. Apple would do the same thing with Bluetooth if they could, but they don't own the Bluetooth standard, thankfully; which is why all your audio controls work on any Bluetooth-enabled device out there. (as long as it's not a really old one)
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Another reason to hate Apple... thanks alot man!

i have the in-ear beats. They are AMAZING. the controls don't work though.

+1 for S9 as well.

The Nokia TRRS standard is what everything else uses, Tip = Left channel, first Ring = Right channel, second Ring = Mic/Control feed, Sleeve = Ground.
The Apple TRRS standard uses, Tip = Left channel, first Ring = Right channel, second Ring = Ground, Sleeve = Mic/Control feed.
Funny thing is Nokia started to use that TRRS layout well over ten years ago in Asia. Almost immediately China and Japan adopted it as an industrial standard and every phone manufacturer since has used it too.
Then Apple comes along years later, with all its infinite wisdom on how to do things that will alienate themselves from the rest of the market and switches the second ring and sleeve. So now the mic and controls for Apple headsets wont work with ANY other phone, and you can’t use any other headset with the iPhone unless it is Apple configured.
Things get even more complicated when apple decides to alter the amp setting for the output of their audio. This is even more interesting and dumbfounding: Apples headsets bass range can be driven at a much lower signal power, that means that you can still use the Apple TRS headphones for audio only (no mic, no controls) in any other device BUT you can’t properly use TRS headphones manufactured for the rest of the industries phones because they require a higher signal power to drive the low end. So if you try to use a standard set of headphones with an Apple device the bass will surely suffer. Those issues happen all the time with iPods because of the same configuration of the TRS standard.
With TRRS you get other issues caused by the signal grounding through the control buss, every now and then output from a song will bias a diode or transistor just right to skip the track or stop the song or do a whole slew of different and wacky things.
So if you ever see someone having this issue with a smart phone tell them to get non-Apple headsets.
If you see someone with an iPhone that’s having this issue, tell them to get an Android device. No, seriously though, tell them to get an Apple headset. Same thing goes if they are experiencing poor bass.
So it isn’t that there is only one brand making the correct headsets, its more like a few brands making headsets that only work with Apple. An easy way to identify the difference is Apples control standard is referred to as TapLine. Just buy headsets that aren’t TapLine or TapLineII. A vast majority of ALL the headsets on the market use the Nokia TRRS standard which is what everything other than Apple is configured for, you shouldn’t have any issues finding a headset that will work for audio and voice.
If you want to use Bluetooth, then you have a world of options for headsets, pretty much everything works. I like the MOTOROKR S305, inexpensive, uses micro USB to charge, and has FULL control, even with voice commands.
If you want to save your battery and use corded headsets with FULL control, then be prepared for disappointment. Right now the Droid X does not support phone controls through the headset command controls. You should still be able to control your music player (maybe, that is still a hit or miss), but if you want to answer and end a phone call then you only have the option of setting the phone to handsfree. With the phone set to handsfree answer and the headphones are plugged in, the phone will answer and you just have to allow the caller on the other end to terminate the call.

Roland Deschain said:
These are nearly the only headphones/ear buds in existence that will have all the controls work properly on your phone with.
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I can't repost the link because the forum thinks I might be a spammer.
It was the link for the Zagg headset.
OK, I am confused with your post. You acknowledge that Apple does things differently and that Apple headsets won’t work on other phones, but then you list a link that is for an Apple configured headset. The description on the page states: “ZAGGsmartbuds music control for iPhone” and then contradicts that with: “Compatible with almost all smartphones with 3.5mm jacks” and then it states: “Some non-US smartphones, such as the Samsung i9000, have a unique jack configuration that requires an adapter for use with the ZAGGsmartbuds.” which is yet another contradiction because that phone is the Galaxy S Android phone that uses the Nokia standard. So the description on that page is pretty much saying that if you want these to work with anything other than an Apple device then you need to use a converter.

I hate how most earphones don't work especially my Beats
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the i beats that come with htc works on htc phones and galaxy s 2 phone
the htc i beats are called urbeats and 3 carriers sell them tmobile sprint and att they also have a white solo that works on android
Urbeats
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-pho...id=wUnNWoHhHH2
solo
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-pho...id=wUnNWoHhHH2
both should work with android not iPhone
LiveSound
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/sto...ab=featuresTab

iPhone headset controls in android

Hi everyone,
I was searching for a good music headset with mic for DHD.
Lots of headsets are built with Apple's iphone controls and not every control works on android.
Is there a possibility to integrate the iphone controls in android, so every control of (iphone compatible) headset could work perfectly on every android device?
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Google
"HTC Wired Remote Control Stereo Headset"
I can't confirm but they should work on DHD, just read some reviews.

I don't really like HTC headsets, but don't u think people can change some settings in android to make it perfectly with headsets with iphone controls?
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At least with the HTC remote you can use your own headphones though... and 99% of all headphones ever made are better than crappy Apple headphones!
As for changing settings, I would search / ask in here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=-1&f=530

CitizenLee said:
At least with the HTC remote you can use your own headphones though... and 99% of all headphones ever made are better than crappy Apple headphones!
As for changing settings, I would search / ask in here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=-1&f=530
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I think you don't get my question
I don't want to use Apple iPhone headset
Let's say I want to get Sennheiser headset or Beats By Dr Dre-thingie.
All these headsets, which do have a mic, always have the controls for iPhone.
So it seems that Apple created a standard for headsets.
So I was wondering if it was possible to change something in android, so we can use these headsets fully like it would be on iPhone, but than on Android.
It's handy to use volume up & down, click to pause/play music or pick up/end a call, double click to skip the song etc.

I'ts been told it supposed to work. I just bought a pair of koss iporta pro.
Edit: they work. But feels kinda cheap

FWIW the closest I have gotten to an answer comes from Klipsch, who make a nice earmic set "for the iPhone4". They claim there's an Apple "chip" in the controller, making apple magic that only works with apple's new(er) products.
Traditional earmics short out one of the lines (L,R,mic) to the common ground and signal the device by putting either a short or a specific resistance across two of the lines to call for changes. The Klipsch set for Apple DO NOT DO THIS, so there is indeed something special happening at the hardware level in the Apple headsets and I wouldn't bet on anyone else's hardware supporting them.

Earphone surprise!

Since i hated the iphones's original earphones i got myself a Sennheiser CX380 SPORT II. I love the sound of it but i didnt want to lose the ability to control the iphone and talk when it rings so i got a belkin earphone extension for iphone.
Today i wanted to listen music from xoom and pluged my earphones to it. Then accidently i clicked the - volume button and xoom PAUSED! When i clicked it again it resumed.
If any of you use iphone earphones or control extensions you might want to check it..You can pause and resume the xoom from them
I searched for xoom specific earphones with hope that maybe control the voice too but failed.
I just wanted to share this

Yeah, I did that as well. I think of it as a nuisance. Hopefully it means that there's a way to get it correctly working on the xoom

Jabra bt3030. Bought it like three years ago, and I still love it. Works on my xoom flawlessly.

I know theres an app that will disable the headphone controls so you wont have that happen if thats annoying you.

I tried earphones from my mobile, and found i had to hold the call/end call button to get the vocals in the music...
WTF??

Stealyourface said:
Jabra bt3030. Bought it like three years ago, and I still love it. Works on my xoom flawlessly.
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If anyone is interested, Im actually getting ready to sell my BT3030, works perfectly...
asking $25
PM me if interested
-Danny

[Q] Using iphone headsets with the Glacier

I have a set of Ultimate Ears 500vi, with a mic and remote.
Part of the remote works, but no such luck with the mic.
Any ideas on some adapter I might be able to buy to make the mic work?
More importantly, does anyone know WHY the mic on iphone headsets doesn't work with Android devices?
If I can figure out why it doesn't work, I can make a custom PCB to adapt it...

chris12892 said:
I have a set of Ultimate Ears 500vi, with a mic and remote.
Part of the remote works, but no such luck with the mic.
Any ideas on some adapter I might be able to buy to make the mic work?
More importantly, does anyone know WHY the mic on iphone headsets doesn't work with Android devices?
If I can figure out why it doesn't work, I can make a custom PCB to adapt it...
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There's something about how the headset is made that dictates whether it will be able to function on some android phones, the OEM headsets have controls, but others don't always work. Try the OEM headset on iphone, if it doesn't work that means the mic/control implementation is different and can't be recognized by certain boards. I was gonna buy some better headphones like beats or maybe sennheisers, but fear the controls won't work.

I am pretty sure the MIC and GRND leads are reversed in the iPhone headsets. Also, Apple uses a chip in the remote to signal the phone; HTC uses resistors of a known value in series across the MIC and GRND leads.
You can disassemble the stock HTC headset and replace the earbuds with a standard 3.5mm jack for alternative headphones.

Everybody looking for good headsets, I strongly advise to try the Logitech Ultimate Ears Superfi 5vi. They're fully compatible with Android and are studio quality. Downloading PowerAmp is a plus.
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Iphone head set worked on my mytouch
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i'd take a guess and say its just the brand? /: i had sony in ear headphones with a mic that was supposed to be for the iphone that worked on my mytouch 4g, but the sound quality was pretty choppy, dont know whether it was the product itself or if it was a compatibility issue.

I posted a thread about my Jlab headphones. I lost them, so I have tried various others. Schosches didn't work. Skullcandy's seem to be doing well, but aren't as clear and crisp as my Jlabs. I plan on ordering another pair.

Samsung 3.5 mm Premium Stereo Headset Bulk Packaging - Black
These are awesome. I have bought multiple pairs for about $5 on amazon.com. They have and in line mic with controls, soft clear ear buds with extras in different sizes and they hold up well even with being thrown loose into my purse regularly.

For anyone who's curious, my Dr Dre Beats Solo HD work great with PowerAMP as a music player. Unfortunately, the mic doesn't work...so that's a bummer...
I'm using the Panache which is essentially the same phone. Quote disappointed because the mic was working great with the Nexus One. Also works on my cousins GS2...and of course works on iPhones.