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[Q] New cunning plan for cheapest G2?

I wanted to run this by people before I attempted to pull it off. I've been reading several stories of how others found ways to save at least $100 dollars on new phones.
Costco is offering the G2 for $49.99 on a 2 year contract. Apparently, the Wireless Advocates don't implement their own ETF correct? So the only ETF is T-Mobile's $200! and since I'm in California, I'd hafta wait 30 days to surpass the "Buyer's Remorse" period, supposedly right?
I have one question first. Is it really mandatory to exercise "Buyer's Remorse" if you terminated your contract before the 30 day time period? You couldn't refuse to exercise that (for lack of a better word) "right"? So I can try to avoid paying the first month's bill...
Either way, here is my plan. I order the phone (with texting service removed lol)
Once it arrives, I call to ask the phone unlocked because I plan on visiting Mexico a week for thanksgiving (that's my story). I return with phone stolen or lost. Now, at this point, 30 days will have not passed. So I call T-mo n tell them my sad story. I'll "try" to plead for a replacement but I obviously expect them to say that I'll need to pay full price to replace the phone. I'll furiously refuse n have the plan and everything else cancelled, of course leaving me to pay the ETF
What does anyone think or have to say about this? If I can avoid paying the first month's bill, awesome. That'll be $250 for a brand new, unlocked G2! if not, that's $104 more. Still cheaper. Opinions please?

...or you could just be an honest customer and, you know, pay for the phone like us non-scammers do. Seriously. It's people like you that cause businesses to be so restrictive in their policies. If you were selling a product and people were scamming you out of said products, would you just shrug it off?
*end slight rage*

Perhaps a plan for an even cheaper g2?
1) Buy Mercedes, with insurance.
2) Have friend "borrow" Mercedes.
3) Report Mercedes stolen.
4) With insurance money, buy g2.
Net cost = $-49500, plus a free Mercedes for your friend.
Also options: buy house for heavily inflated price, burn down house, collect money.

Well, if the phone were only offered to buy for about... let's say... $250, and able to be used on at&t, I'd have nothing to complain about... but thanks for your input...

Really, i mean REALLY??? Agree with the "why not be honest". Many of us work for what we have and if we cant afford it.... well, we DON'T get it. Why is it so easy for people to steal nowadays?
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Dream Reality Syndrome said:
Well, if the phone were only offered to buy for about... let's say... $250, and able to be used on at&t, I'd have nothing to complain about... but thanks for your input...
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Okay. So if I want an iPhone 4, instead of paying full price for the phone, I'll just commit illegal(?) acts and scam AT&T out of one and get it unlocked.
That's the point of exclusivity; not everyone has access to it. And that's also the point of... you know... unsubsidized costs. So manufacturers can profit.

yes, ok. i apologize for my misconceptions...
i'm sorry everyone. i won't go through with it

lol i say go for it

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yes, ok. i apologize for my misconceptions...
i'm sorry everyone. i won't go through with it
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That a boy! Plus I don't think you can unlock the phone for the first 30-some days anyhow. Tried unlocking a new blackberry through T-Mobile once and instead of getting the unlock code I got an email saying I have to wait x amount of days first.
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The only dishonest thing the OP wanted to do was avoid paying for the first month's service. Otherwise he is just canceling a contract while adhering to the terms of that contract.
The reason this allows him to get the phone cheaper is because he can get it at a deeply discounted price and that price + penalties don't add up to the cost of buying the phone unlocked. Can't blame him for finding a chink in their armor.
You don't have to lie about anything, just get the phone then cancel the contract after a month.

Anomaly said:
The only dishonest thing the OP wanted to do was avoid paying for the first month's service. Otherwise he is just canceling a contract while adhering to the terms of that contract.
The reason this allows him to get the phone cheaper is because he can get it at a deeply discounted price and that price + penalties don't add up to the cost of buying the phone unlocked. Can't blame him for finding a chink in their armor.
You don't have to lie about anything, just get the phone then cancel the contract after a month.
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Unfortunately when you cancel from buyers remorse you have to return the device.... he said he would lie and say it got stolen which is stealing..... sorry try again....
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Isn't that what I just said? That the only dishonest thing about it was trying to get out of the contract before the one month was up so that he could avoid paying for one month's service?
After the buyer's remorse period, he doesn't have to return the device, he just pays the early termination fee. He wanted to trick them out of getting the device back during that period so that he could avoid paying for one month service and still keep the device, which is precisely what I said was dishonest about the whole scenario.

Sprint now requires credit card payment for new phones?

Forgive me if this is already a known quantity around here, but I only just found out this evening that orders placed through Sprint for new devices can no longer be billed to your account. Apparently we now have to pay by credit or debit card up front when we want a new device.

dead78 said:
Forgive me if this is already a known quantity around here, but I only just found out this evening that orders placed through Sprint for new devices can no longer be billed to your account. Apparently we now have to pay by credit or debit card up front when we want a new device.
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yup found out a couple of months ...........i believe there should b a couple of threads on it

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yup found out a couple of months ...........i believe there should b a couple of threads on it
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they're saying it changed it on October 5. yet another way we're taking it in the pants as a result of Sprint getting the iPhone and another reason to never bother ordering a phone from Sprint.

yep blame that on the iphone
apple started this a few years ago, so no cash at all, even in person at the apple stores for iphones, as people were buying them stateside, and selling them overseas for huge markups, since they were not available at the time
gotta love Apple lol

Amd4life said:
yep blame that on the iphone
apple started this a few years ago, so no cash at all, even in person at the apple stores for iphones, as people were buying them stateside, and selling them overseas for huge markups, since they were not available at the time
gotta love Apple lol
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yep, you're 100% right.
man, I was on the fence before about upgrading my Epic...there's no way in hell I'll do it now. when you look at everything that's gone lately, Sprint's shown they're willing to screw over their entire customer base for the sake of luring in new customers with this gimmick Apple crap. now they've got their big sales figures and they can all pat each other on the backs for a job well done.
do the other carriers require up front payment for their devices?

Just so you guys know, sprint is actually the last of all the big 4 carriers to get rid of bill to account for new phones. Its a fight against fraud. Cutting costs is necessary to keep providing the unlimited data plans. Saving money by reducing fraudulent purchases is one of the best ways to do this. There is a reason behind every choice the company makes. It may not always sound like the best when you first hear it but the reasons why typically justify the changes. Sprint tries really hard to provide what other carriers no longer do but there at reasons that other carriers have cut things, and with sprints new high end world phone lineup we are running into the same things.
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lookout4theyeti said:
Just so you guys know, sprint is actually the last of all the big 4 carriers to get rid of bill to account for new phones. Its a fight against fraud. Cutting costs is necessary to keep providing the unlimited data plans. Saving money by reducing fraudulent purchases is one of the best ways to do this. There is a reason behind every choice the company makes. It may not always sound like the best when you first hear it but the reasons why typically justify the changes. Sprint tries really hard to provide what other carriers no longer do but there at reasons that other carriers have cut things, and with sprints new high end world phone lineup we are running into the same things.
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frankly, the "we need to do this to keep unlimited data" excuse has lost its appeal. all I'm seeing is a fledgling company pulling back on service in order to accommodate the iPhone and keep itself in business. as it stands now, I live in an area where my data service is horrendous. calls to Sprint are essentially pointless since I'm given an endless string of excuses as to why I can't download faster than .2 Mbps on 3G and why I can't stay connected to 4G for more than a couple of minutes. I've been with Sprint for over 10 years and I've seen all aspects of quality within the company deteriorate considerably in that time. The simple fact is that they're network couldn't accommodate the demand of all the Android devices on it; I can't even imagine what the surge of new iPhones is going to do to service.
meanwhile, we're told that every courtesy we received is being taken away in order to assure a high level of service. that would be fine except there is no longer a high level of service to maintain. I've actually had Sprint tell me that their changes aren't so bad because they're simply doing what all the other carriers do; therein lies the crux of why having 3.5 carriers dominate a nation of roughly 400 million people isn't good for anyone. a struggling company in that setting has no incentive to do anything but keep its doors open. they've lost the will to differentiate because they no longer have to; their sole concern is to avoid being subsumed by one of their competitors. most investors (myself included) doubt Sprint's ability to sustain itself beyond the next couple of years because they're a poorly managed company who've become notorious for making extremely poor decisions - this recent backpedaling from WiMax is one of the worst.
so yeah, great we get unlimited data. we'll see how well that unlimited data that Sprint's stripped away all incentives for holds up when an already super-saturated capacity is unable to withstand the demand from this gadget they've bet the farm on.

I am usually on the side of the consumer but, this time, I think if you don't have the money to pay for it, why are you upgrading? Wait a month and get it when you have the money. I don't see why it was ever an option to begin with.
The only reason I am still on Sprint is becaue they have the number one best plan for my situation. If I didn't want unlimited data, or the best cutomer service, or the coolest new phones, I would go with MetroPCS. They have the best plan for someone like that. Shop around. Get what is best for you. I'm not preaching. I just want every customer out there to be as happy as can be.

It is probably better this way. When you charge to credit card, they don't add the weird few dollars here and there taxes in the taxes and surcharges sections (this is in addition to the tax they charged on the phone purchase itself) I probably got another $5-$6 in random taxes I had to complain about to get back.

I agree that data speeds on Sprints unlimited plan sucks. I will contest to that. Sprint's network simply is being overwhelmed from all the traffic they get from all the smartphones out there. So Sprint came up with a plan. The plan is going to cost $10b over time I think it was. To come up with the money Sprint has to cut cost and create more revenue. To cut cost Sprint got rid of certain luxuries we were receiving as consumers. To create more revenue Sprint fought to get the Iphone on board (Sprint announce this was their biggest sales day ever). Simple economics. Remember Sprint is a far 3rd behind the top two cash cows we know as AT&T and Verizon. Sprint is not financially stable right now but, making these necessary moves will help us as consumer in the long run. I know you pay now, and, you want it now, but, all we can really do is wait till Sprint finish's with their $10B project in your area.

Seriously? You all look at this as "exploiting the customer"? What they got rid of was effectively an interest free credit card that people were abusing. No, doesn't make any business sense at all, certainly not.
True exploitation would be them deciding to charge interest on your balance.
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buggerritt said:
I am usually on the side of the consumer but, this time, I think if you don't have the money to pay for it, why are you upgrading? Wait a month and get it when you have the money. I don't see why it was ever an option to begin with.
The only reason I am still on Sprint is becaue they have the number one best plan for my situation. If I didn't want unlimited data, or the best cutomer service, or the coolest new phones, I would go with MetroPCS. They have the best plan for someone like that. Shop around. Get what is best for you. I'm not preaching. I just want every customer out there to be as happy as can be.
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Ive been doing bta for years without problems from sprint. The problem was me, with the subject the post is about. Im pretty impulsive at times. More that once ive had financial department calling me wanting money because im past due. I couldnt pay the price of the phone (usually full price because i was in mid contract) and my bill up to date in a month or less. I kept telling myself, after i would get my account completely paid up to date, that i wouldnt do this again and would only get another phone if i had the money in hand to pay for the phone. Sometimes financial emergencies happen that are unforseen and they can really put a person behind for awhile and its a struggle to get caught up. Thats one of my character defects, i admit it (for the first time). Its not sprint's fault for this, its mine for being impulsive and irresponsible when it comes to finances.
I dont know why i felt the need to say this, but it had something to do with the subject and i shared my experience (and foolishness) with you guys.
Shame on me, i know!

I'm right there with you man! I sold a Dell Venue Pro so I could get my Epic Touch and I still have an Atrix on At&t and am looking at over $500 if I leave At&t. All that so I could get a 1/2 inch bigger screen and a slightly faster phone. Oh well at least I got a good one, no Los or any other issues thus far.
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I just paid my Sprint bill the other day. With activation, the phone, and my normal bill, it was $578.06. No more bta? Who cares. If you don't have the money, you probably shouldn't buy the phone anyway.
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Verizon still allows billing to your account. This last carrier nonsense isn't true

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Verizon still allows billing to your account. This last carrier nonsense isn't true
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that's what I thought. quite frankly, this argument that deadbeats have ruined the bta is a bunch of b.s. because that would be a punitive major and not something supposedly introduced to insure a high level of future service. the reason why bta is a solid option is that it means not having to rely on Sprint to refund your money in the event you decide to return a recently purchased phone. what this new move does is allow Sprint access to the customer's money immediately, which is actually a better move from an accounting standpoint since funds collected can be immediately invested. however, my biggest beef with this change of policy is that like all the other changes we've endured in recent weeks, they're all being done to accommodate the iPhone. like many others, I'm not remotely convinced of Sprint's able to even stay in business long enough to see all these supposed service improvements take place, so right now (and for the immediate future) all that's happening is Sprint is pulling back on customer services to pander to the iPhone.

Like another poster said this is to accommodate fraud. I work for another big name phone company and this is a way to keep people from calling in and ordering multiple phones on an account and having them shipped and once you see that these phones were ordered and you did not order them you call sprint and they have to foot that bill. If there is a credit card used it is tied to the person who used it and fraud is dealt with easier through the CC companies because they have more info. The FCC are coming up with all these rules to help us as consumers. It kinda makes it harder but safer. Anyone who knows your information can order on your account and that is scary. We see people on this forum who call in and tell lies all the time. Fruad is no joke. If it makes it safer why not?
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Thanks for sharing this. I think you hit the nail on the head and I wish more people were willing to look at their own situation objectively and take some personal responsibility.
Sprint is a business, making business decisions. If they need to make changes to stay viable, then they should make them. If I decide at some point I don't like them, I can go somewhere else. It's the beauty of free enterprise and consumer choice.
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Ive been doing bta for years without problems from sprint. The problem was me, with the subject the post is about. Im pretty impulsive at times. More that once ive had financial department calling me wanting money because im past due. I couldnt pay the price of the phone (usually full price because i was in mid contract) and my bill up to date in a month or less. I kept telling myself, after i would get my account completely paid up to date, that i wouldnt do this again and would only get another phone if i had the money in hand to pay for the phone. Sometimes financial emergencies happen that are unforseen and they can really put a person behind for awhile and its a struggle to get caught up. Thats one of my character defects, i admit it (for the first time). Its not sprint's fault for this, its mine for being impulsive and irresponsible when it comes to finances.
I dont know why i felt the need to say this, but it had something to do with the subject and i shared my experience (and foolishness) with you guys.
Shame on me, i know!
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Who orders from Sprint anyway? There's always some place cheaper to get the phone of you're eligible for an upgrade. Ordering from places like Amazon or Wirefly at the very least saves you tax.
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My local Best Buy is great about returns and will price match any other vendor that has a unit in stock. I've never ordered from Sprint.
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Sprint TEP increasing to $11 for LTE devices $549.99 and up

Effective 6/17/2012
http://www.androidcentral.com/sprin...-16-could-be-day-lte-goes-live?style_mobile=0
Deductibles rising to $150 and $200 depending on SRP.

Now that's a bunch of bull honkey!

i've always wondered what bull honkey... was... is....

Kinda meh. For the strain it eases on my nerves, I'll pay the dollar or two.

Well it will be becoming $132/yr + $150-$200 deductible to insure a device that probably costs $350-$450 street value with a refurb replacement.
If you have a high-end device, after 2yrs you would have paid $264 (+$200 if you had a stolen/lost/water damaged unit)
I guess if you "lose" 3 devices per year (which I believe is their "limit") it is worth it.

The $3 per month increase is not the end of the world, but doubling the deductible is excessive I think. If you're accident prone or absent minded it may be worth it, but I probably won't be adding TEP on my next device, and maybe opt for an extended warranty like Squaretrade instead, depending on the pricing.

Meh, not much.
Pay to play. Just gotta be a bit more extra careful with your device I suppose.

I think if you have tep on your phone now and haven't used it more than one time ...the price should not increase ...but just my thoughts
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Not promoting best buy or anything but $10 a month with no deduct able sounds nice. Only thing is that they don't cover lost/stolen which I have lost a phone before. Plus its better for me since I got a crazy gf that likes to break phones
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I agree, have used it 0 times in ever since I came on to sprint almost 2 years now on two lines.

In god-knows-how-long I've had "the insurance"--for either as long as it's been available or since I got to Sprint way over a decade ago...whichever is shorter) I've never used it once....I do think this is bullsh!t. Up the deductible or up the premium but don't crank 'em both up.
It's a money machine for them as a vast majority of all people who have the insurance never use it. Sure, that's how insurance works and that's also offset by the expenses of the people that use it all the time, but, not getting into accidents encourages my insurance company to give me lower rates since I'm a lower risk. I'm clearly a statistically lower risk for repeated use of TEP but I get screwed just the same as someone who destroys every phone they touch....and I know some of those people. Always have a new phone and a story about the ending of the last one.
inb4 someone scapegoats people who tether or use an "excessive amount" of an unlimited service.

Honestly getting tired of paying others way. Have it just in case and have never needed to file a claim.
Lost Premier, now higher deductible. I may ruffle feathers but can't help but wonder if those abusing by claiming an ota bricked them, or other nonsense had any part in this.
Either way I will just drop it. Not paying an inflated premium when I have never used it, abused it. Every other insurance rewards those that are careful (or lucky).

Sephirothvfc said:
Not promoting best buy or anything but $10 a month with no deduct able sounds nice. Only thing is that they don't cover lost/stolen which I have lost a phone before.
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I totally agree, with that price increase Best Buy coverage is now the better option UNLESS you loose phones, like me :[
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Plus its better for me since I got a crazy gf that likes to break phones
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LOL!! Don't we all love crazy gf's?

sfhub said:
Effective 6/17/2012
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IMO TEP wasn't worth it to begin with.
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Just to clear a little air here, the TEP will be going up for any LTE device from galaxy nexus forward. However, it only applies to phones that have a MSRP of 549.99 or greater. Also, any current devices in our lineup are not affected.
As far as the worth of it, one statistic they've pointed out to us in order to address....objections...is that it would take 3 years of paying TEP and one insurance deductible to match the MSRP...
So for many of us who don't keep phones for that long, the value is still definitely there.
EDIT: never mind, saw that engadget has a screenshot of our Playbook which explains it.
Most of this is probably due to Asurion, not Sprint. Not to mention these things will always get increasingly expensive. Protection plans have been raising in cost and deductible since they were introduced.
What interests me is that I've heard rumblings of replacing Asurion with another provider. Nothing concrete you can quote me on...but it wouldn't surprise me. Their quality is terrible, and I'm willing to bet that a lot of Asurion's increasing costs are directly attributable to having to remanufacture devices multiple times.
Just my opinions.
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I have never broke a phone before and don't think I will start to do it any time soon
Glad to know the option is there for those who need it though.

Ill stay with tep, as I always seem to loose my phone after I break it. Usually to an ebay auction to offset the deductible.
Lol?
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Well I don't really mind because I normall use TEP on any new phone for only 6 months. After that it doesn't make much sense for me because there is probably a new phone out.

I will keep paying it on my two lines because Sprint has always gone the extra mile for me. If they hadn't, I wouldn't have this phone and I would still be paying the $69.99 a month for the 3g USB internet plug in. ETF fees waived, line reset, replaced my Nexus with a new one without me having to use insurance.. I figure I have been taken care of so I don't have any room to complain but I know not everyone has been as fortunate
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In my nearly 13 years with Sprint, i've never signed up for their insurance. Guess i'm a very careful person with my devices. Guess how much i've saved in all those years...

$612.00 bill for cancelling sprint does not want to work with me

Sprint does not want to work a plan to pay easily monthly or they will charge me fees . you know for great costumer service I myust say they suck big time. any suggestions

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Sprint does not want to work a plan to pay easily monthly or they will charge me fees . you know for great costumer service I myust say they suck big time. any suggestions
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Ummm....pay the fees and deal with it? You cancelled the contract, you have to pay the fees.
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Better yet...sell the phones that you kept and pay your fees. The only reason your bill is that high is because you have atleast 2 smart phones.

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Ummm....pay the fees and deal with it? You cancelled the contract, you have to pay the fees.
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Better yet...sell the phones that you kept and pay your fees. The only reason your bill is that high is because you have atleast 2 smart phones.
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you work for sprint is that it sprint service sucks buddy and you will see one day when you need your phone the most

Why would you expect them to work with you? You broke the contract, you KNEW there were fees attached to breaking the contract.
There's dozens of ways to get out of the contract without paying a dime, but you chose the FEE route and you expect them to work with you?
You owe them $, they want their $, what else is there? If you want to fight with them, easier to take it to small claims court, which, you will probably still lose and have court fees at the same time.
Your alternative is "don't pay", and you'll screw up your credit after it goes to collections and you probably won't have to worry about cell phone bills any longer because most other providers won't touch you after they see you defaulted on another carrier.

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Sprint does not want to work a plan to pay easily monthly or they will charge me fees . you know for great costumer service I myust say they suck big time. any suggestions
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Yeah here's a suggestion:
Learn to read and write beyond a sixth grade reading level. If you could read and comprehend words clearly typed out on that piece of paper commonly referred to as a contract and/or Terms of Service that you got when you signed up for your service, you would come to understand that if you decided to cancel your contract you would owe sprint an early termination fee for up to $350 per phone, plus any outstanding balance tied to your account.
If you could read the posting rules for the general section of the Samsung Epic 4g Touch forum, you would understand that this isn't the place to talk about contract issues, sprint customer services issues, or billing issues. Nobody cares. Take it someplace else.
Also, learn to articulate, whether you post on this forum or any other. Watch me. I am virtually rolling my eyes at your atrocious spelling and grammar.
Mods, close this thread please.

I can smell the smoke of the flame war that will come from this.....
IBTL.edu
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I need a picture for in before lock threads ha. So in before lock
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I am seeing the flames of war.
http://Inbeforethelock.com :what:

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Don't be stupid. Keep the contract open, do some research and you'll find out how to get out of your contract with no ETF. Otherwise, buck up and pay because it is a legally binding contact you signed.

thanx you guys wow some of you are really rude way to go. you guys make someone feel really good after posting something in here. i hope you get the insults that you given me back one day and i hope its really soon. and feel the same way i feel. thanx a lot.

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you work for sprint is that it sprint service sucks buddy and you will see one day when you need your phone the most
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Don't work for Sprint, sorry.
I have had Sprint for over 10 years in the St. Louis area and never had any issues at all with them. I am sorry that you had a bad experience with them and I wish you the best of luck with another carrier but once again, you signed the contract and then cancelled. You cancelled for a reason (not sure what, you didn't enlighten us) but you still cancelled. If Sprint wasn't holding up their end of the bargain, you could have called numerous times complaining and opening tickets with them and probably could have gotten out of your contract ETF free, but from what I am suspecting, you didn't make the effort to do this so you are stuck.
Once again, good luck with whatever carrier you go with and have fun paying those ETFs.
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I almost forgot.... http://www.inbeforethelock.xxx

Compusmurf said:
Why would you expect them to work with you? You broke the contract, you KNEW there were fees attached to breaking the contract.
There's dozens of ways to get out of the contract without paying a dime, but you chose the FEE route and you expect them to work with you?
You owe them $, they want their $, what else is there? If you want to fight with them, easier to take it to small claims court, which, you will probably still lose and have court fees at the same time.
Your alternative is "don't pay", and you'll screw up your credit after it goes to collections and you probably won't have to worry about cell phone bills any longer because most other providers won't touch you after they see you defaulted on another carrier.
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That's a lie i left Sprint with a etf and i was approved for Verizon 5 lines no deposit ..
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Oh, hello there. Had to pop my head in this one. OP, sorry it isn't working out in your favor, but you're not going to get any help here. Call them and talk, call them again, and again, until they come up with something for you if you want. Posting here isn't going to do anything but cause a war. Please don't start another one. And P.S. you knew the terms of the contract when you signed. :/

Deals on an off-contract HTC One?

Anyone know of any tips or tricks?
I'm stuck on a GSIII I re-upped my contract to on 12/2012.. they say I'm stuck until 12/2014.
Need an HTC One badly, but not $650 badly..

dbornack said:
Anyone know of any tips or tricks?
I'm stuck on a GSIII I re-upped my contract to on 12/2012.. they say I'm stuck until 12/2014.
Need an HTC One badly, but not $650 badly..
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well you can sell your GS III here http://swappa.com/buy/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-verizon/us then buy the htc one off contract for full price.

+1
Sell your sg3 on swappa save up and pay difference for an HTC one on swappa. It's a great site.

If you don't mind spending a little extra each month you can do what I did, I just added a line and I'm fine paying the extra 40 a month.
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Got mine on swappa for $540
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Not too bad of a deal, but I had already planned on claiming a refurb replacement on the GSIII, and selling it for $250.. But I'm talking like.. no additional cost. Like, tips on how to con my way into an early upgrade with Verizon..

Kiyuubi said:
If you don't mind spending a little extra each month you can do what I did, I just added a line and I'm fine paying the extra 40 a month.
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An extra $40 a month!! $960 for the phone over the contract term. I would not be ok with that. Can you still add lines if you have grandfathered family share plans?
EDIT: Why don't you swap a dumbphone on there to at least lower your costs?

I can sell you mine. Accessories in box are still unopened. No scratches dings or blemishes. $500
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dbornack said:
Not too bad of a deal, but I had already planned on claiming a refurb replacement on the GSIII, and selling it for $250.. But I'm talking like.. no additional cost. Like, tips on how to con my way into an early upgrade with Verizon..
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Not going to happen.
Since they have you and you no longer have unlimited to bargain with, it's a "pay to play" game.
You could always switch to the edge or maybe the "max" plan for phone leasing and upgrades.
Don't know what else.

dbornack said:
Not too bad of a deal, but I had already planned on claiming a refurb replacement on the GSIII, and selling it for $250.. But I'm talking like.. no additional cost. Like, tips on how to con my way into an early upgrade with Verizon..
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You just got a new phone 9 months ago. They hurt a lot of feelings when they stopped giving upgrades at 22 months. And they stood firm on the 24 month upgrade pricing.
What incentive do they have to give you a discount after only 9 months? They already have you legally trapped for another 15 months. You would owe THEM an early termination fee. They hold all the cards here. You leave.. they make money. You stay... they make money. They give you a new upgrade... they lose money.
Your only out is to do what the rest have recommended. Buy it outright at full retail, or from Swappa. OR add a line and use that line's new equipment for yourself. I know several people who do that. And then just use those line's upgrades when they roll around. I'd just sell the GSIII and pay for an gently used one on Swappa.

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They give you a new upgrade... they lose money.
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Wrong, they re-up me for two years and keep me as a customer that much longer. Hardware is a commodity. No one makes money on hardware except when people pay full price on it before their upgrade.
I'm willing to bet the money they make on continuing to keep me is more than the money made on hardware if the upgrade me every 9-12 months except in my case, where I went and did that and ended up with a phone that sucks at pictures. Looks like I'm gonna just return it and live with GS3
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Swappa! bought a new one myself for $480. works perfectly and just send it out for s-off in fact

dbornack said:
Wrong, they re-up me for two years and keep me as a customer that much longer. Hardware is a commodity. No one makes money on hardware except when people pay full price on it before their upgrade.
I'm willing to bet the money they make on continuing to keep me is more than the money made on hardware if the upgrade me every 9-12 months except in my case, where I went and did that and ended up with a phone that sucks at pictures. Looks like I'm gonna just return it and live with GS3
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Hey, don't get me wrong. I hope it works for you. But the logic there is flawed. The "that much longer" they keep you is only 9 months longer than they would have had you anyway. Of course they are making money on the hardware, no matter if they give it to you or you pay full price from them for it. But that's not the point. The point is that they have you under contract.
Imagine you cut lawn for work. You have a giant lawn mowing business. You're making crazy money. A man asks you to mow his lawn for the next year. You estimate the job, pitch it. He's good. He signs the contract. After you mow his lawn for a month he says, "I want you to start mowing my neighbors lawn too. No extra cost. I'm paying you good. Just when you reach the end of my plot, keep going. It's only an extra 3 acres." Are you really going to add a whole new lawn to the job just because he says so and insists that's what it's going to take to keep his business? You have him in a legal bind. You are guaranteed the contract amount OR a early termination fee. The other is just his promise that he'll sign with you next year. You don't NEED his contract. Your business is steadily growing. And what is his word worth? He told you that he was happy with you mowing his lawn and now he's tacked this new condition on. There are no guarantees that even if you mow his neighbor's lawn that he'll resign with you next season.
Again, I hope it works for you but unless some local mom and pop shop wants to manipulate the system for you in some way, I don't see it happening. And if you work directly with Verizon, I really don't see it happening. Sincerely hope I'm wrong here... but business is business. And business, for Verizon, is good.

Pretty good analogy there, but to lay it out in more mathmatical terms, when you got your s3, you probably paid $99 for it, for the sake of argument though, lets say you paid the full $200. Most VZW retailer's cost on an S3 is around 600. That's $400 they lost selling you that one phone. Now, analysts have broken down costs of the cell networks, and found that you're paying around $20 extra a month for the discount you got on the phone. You've had the phone 9 months at $20 a month, or $180. That means Verizon is still down $220. Why would they let you resign and take ANOTHER loss on a phone for a customer who has a perfectly working phone? No, its not "customer loyalty" or any of that nonsense, its you not understanding that phones are an expensive piece of hardware.