Hey guys, so I just got the Telus S2X, and ended up rooting and flashing it on impulse (like I usually do -- first I flashed the pre-rooted rom in the root thread, and then the Dewizzed rom), and was wondering if doing all of this (and flashing back to stock) will void my warranty via the flash counter.
If so, is there a way to reset it without that jig?
Thanks.
Edit: I just checked and the binary counter is at 0! Someone can go ahead and close this.
gstar_raw said:
Hey guys, so I just got the Telus S2X, and ended up rooting and flashing it on impulse (like I usually do -- first I flashed the pre-rooted rom in the root thread, and then the Dewizzed rom), and was wondering if doing all of this (and flashing back to stock) will void my warranty via the flash counter.
If so, is there a way to reset it without that jig?
Thanks.
Edit: I just checked and the binary counter is at 0! Someone can go ahead and close this.
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While I can appreciate the need for speedy answers when faced with a dilemma, you need to search 1st. This has been covered a lot already.
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This is a completely stock ODIN flashable ROM with root injected into the system image. The latest image is based off of the official Kies SPR L710VPBLJ7 release which is the first official JB release on this phone.
This is a fairly easy way to get root WITHOUT tripping the flash counter that will void the warranty. If you don't care about tripping the counter then you can get root other ways.
You can get ODIN here
and the drivers for the SPH-L710 so ODIN can detect your phone can be found at Samsung's site. Click on the Manuals & Downloads tab at the bottom and then on Software for the latest driver.
First download the stock odin tar that has a rooted system image injected into it:
SPR Image (JB 4.1.1)
Perm Mirror 1: Download - root66_SPR_L710VPBLJ7.7z
SPR Image (ICS 4.0.4)
Perm Mirror 1: Download - L710VPALI3
Old SPR Image (ICS 4.0.4)
Perm Mirror 1: Download - L710VPALEN
Second,
Extract the root66_SPR_L710VPALI3.tar from the .7z file you downloaded.
Put phone into download mode [ with phone off, hold vol. down + home + power ], connect to computer and open Odin.
once in odin click the PDA field and select the root66_SPR_L710VPALEN.tar you downloaded.
Leave Auto Reboot and F. Reset Time checked.
click start and
when done let phone reboot.
If you have issues flashing with Odin please ensure you are using the microusb cable that came with the phone, users have had issues using other cables.
If you just want a stock, rooted phone with no custom recovery, no plans to flash custom roms, etc. then you can stop HERE.
Third, (optional) - on a Jelly Bean release, loading a non-stock recovery will trip your flash counter.
If you want to get clockworkmod recovery loaded so you can flash whatever you want, nandroid, etc then continue on....
Once rebooted you can essentially follow this thread to load the clockworkmod recovery but make sure you use METHOD 1 or you will trip the counter. As long as you flash the recovery using the dd method with adb (or use terminal emulator from the play store) then you will NOT trip the flash counter. If you use ODIN to flash a custom recovery you will trip the counter.
The standard CWM recovery is here and the touch recovery is here.
If you've made it this far with a stock, rooted phone with cwm and you don't want to flash a custom rom (which will do its own de-bloating) you can check out my Aroma installer based De-bloater to easily get rid of bloat system apps you no longer want to see. Simply flash in CWM like anything else and you will be presented with a menu system to choose what to remove. If you are unsure it is safe to pick Recommended and a decent de-bloat.
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OTA Updates
I understand on Sprint there are OTA updates available. If you use this root method and want to move to an OTA update you basically have two options.
1. After using this method you can grab voodoo OTA rootkeeper from the play store and apply the update straight as it is from OTA. The rootkeeper app should keep root for you after the update is applied.
2. Find someone who made a CWM flashable update, potentially with certain pieces removed and simply flash it in CWM.
Thanks
To get the injected root system image I followed pieces of
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27801304&postcount=1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22798858&postcount=32
so thanks to those guys. Neither of those worked out of the box needed a bit of tweaking.
OK...any one willing to take the leap and see? :victory::cyclops:
Naddict said:
OK...any one willing to take the leap and see? :victory::cyclops:
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No leap needed. it'll work.
Does this wipe data?
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Thanks! Been waiting for these to show up for the SGS3! They were priceless on the SGS II Epic 4G Touch.
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crawrj said:
Does this wipe data?
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Since the original .tar file didn't wipe data, I'll go out on a limb and say this doesn't either. However, if you're restoring your home .tar file for warranty purposes I'd suggest performing a full wipe in CWM prior to flashing this in Odin, or Mobile Odin.
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Correct. It will not wipe data. You may want to depending on your needs.
so not to sound stupid, but after doing this method and getting root and CWM, then we can flash anything in cwm without tripping the counter correct?
robl45 said:
so not to sound stupid, but after doing this method and getting root and CWM, then we can flash anything in cwm without tripping the counter correct?
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correct.
robl45 said:
so not to sound stupid, but after doing this method and getting root and CWM, then we can flash anything in cwm without tripping the counter correct?
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That's what I'm wondering. Anyhoo, is there any basis to state that the tripping the flash counter will void the warranty or is that just a wild assumption?
Just to be sure, at this time there is no method of resetting the trip counter, so those that already rooted need to wait for a way to reset the counter and then will be able to use this method if they're so inclined... Is my understanding correct?
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mlin said:
That's what I'm wondering. Anyhoo, is there any basis to state that the tripping the flash counter will void the warranty or is that just a wild assumption?
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haha, wild assumption? The counter isn't there because people like counting. Samsung has made it incrementally harder with each gen of device to reset that counter. They provide that so the carriers and themselves CAN void your warranty as they have proof that you have flashed something that wasn't stock.
Now notice the CAN word up above. That doesn't mean they WILL void your warranty. I know for a fact I've seen friends denied service from ATT for having that counter tripped. From what I've read on these forums, it seems ATT would be one of the more strict carriers and Sprint the least. I think I read yesterday that Sprint won't really care. I have no personal experience regarding that however and they can change their stance when they like.
If you haven't tripped your counter, this is as easy a root method as any other, you are just flashing something in Odin. So if you want to ensure you are warranty covered why not use this?
mrRobinson said:
haha, wild assumption? The counter isn't there because people like counting. Samsung has made it incrementally harder with each gen of device to reset that counter. They provide that so the carriers and themselves CAN void your warranty as they have proof that you have flashed something that wasn't stock.
Now notice the CAN word up above. That doesn't mean they WILL void your warranty. I know for a fact I've seen friends denied service from ATT for having that counter tripped. From what I've read on these forums, it seems ATT would be one of the more strict carriers and Sprint the least. I think I read yesterday that Sprint won't really care. I have no personal experience regarding that however and they can change their stance when they like.
If you haven't tripped your counter, this is as easy a root method as any other, you are just flashing something in Odin. So if you want to ensure you are warranty covered why not use this?
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Gotcha, thanks for the break down. At this point I've already rooted and as a Sprint customer I'm not worried about it. Sprint's policy is to handle rooted phones the same way they handle completely stock phones. I've had rooted phones running obvious custom ROMs serviced and exchanged for warranty type issues. Anyhoo, thanks for posting!
LOL, just chatted with Samsung. Apparently they will still handle all warranty issues under warranty but will charge to reflash the phone.
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Correct. It will not wipe data. You may want to depending on your needs.
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Thanks it was for a friend just needed root.
so to go back to completely stock, you would flash a stock tar in odin and that wouldn't trip the counter either?
robl45 said:
so to go back to completely stock, you would flash a stock tar in odin and that wouldn't trip the counter either?
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Correct. Anything that is a stock Samsung provided file(or phone thinks it is Samsung provided file) will not trip the counter.
Thanks! This will come in handy if the wife ever lets me root her phone lol
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You Sir have made my day exactly what I was waiting for.
I've read in some threads that flashing completely to stock will reset the flash counter, can someone please confirm or refute this for me?
elfhater said:
I've read in some threads that flashing completely to stock will reset the flash counter, can someone please confirm or refute this for me?
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No it does not.
I am super sorry if this has been covered, but I have indeed searched, several sites, and I haven't found anything on my specific problem. I had my Galaxy S3 rooted for a time then decided to unroot it. The unroot worked and the phone status now says "normal," but I still cannot receive any OTA updates and my flash counter does not say "0." I suppose my first question is would resetting the flash counter solve the problem with getting the updates? And if so, How can I go about doing that with an already unrooted phone? I searched through the thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1904099
- but was not allowed to post in it since I'm a noob. Thanks for any help.
Use triangle away to reset the flash counter, however you will need to reroot to run triangle away and then unroot again once your finished.
Could always PM the OP of the thread. Sure he wouldnt mind :laugh: That being said, flash the jb version of that rom. Youll be up to date w/ no root and a counter at 0.
Thanks. I'll reroot then follow that thread's guide and use the rom files linked. I know enough about rooting to root, but if I ever run into an issue, I have no idea what I'm doing. We all appreciate your guys' help!
Stupid question, but I want to be sure. I can easily root, then use the triangle away app. But, when I go to unroot, am I just using the JB.zip file from the above mentioned thread and that itself will unroot? Or do I unroot completely first then flash that zip?
Sorry, maybe is offtopic but I need this information badly...
I rooted my GS3 and installed some Incredible HD rom...now, I wanted to get back to stock rom! So, I restored to my Stock rom which I previously backed up in clockwork recovery...Now I have a stock rom but UNABLE to update my phone via KIES or OTA????? It sais > your device curred fw isnt supported ....
What should I do? Should I reset my flash counter or unroot it first before update or what???
THANKSSSS
Hi everyone,
I have a Bell GS3 that I'm going to be selling to pay for a GS4 upgrade. I have it rooted and running Liquidsmooth, I'd like to restore it so it's like it came from factory. I have the I747MVLDLK4_I747MOYCDLK4_BMC file along with the Odin flashing program. I know there's something about tripping a flash counter, is there a way to check if it's been activated and if so reset it? I have an extended warranty on the phone so if the person does need a repair will not have to deal with certain problems.
I'd appreciate any help.
Your flash counter most likely has been tripped. I'm pretty sure the only way not to trip it is to use the root injected odin files. As soon as you install custom recovery and boot into the recovery the counter will be tripped though.
Here is how I have done the process.
Factory reset device.
Install triangle away to reset the counter
boot into download mode to flash stock firmware with odin.
If coming from a cm based Rom I find it best to restore/flash a touchwiz Rom first then factory reset, triangle away, Odin.
Hope that helps
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Thanks for the reply. I may be misreading what you posted, are you saying that once it's been tripped there's no way to actually go back completely?
I'll do the steps like you suggested. Thank you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzydHUG7XZE
EGM92 said:
Thanks for the reply. I may be misreading what you posted, are you saying that once it's been tripped there's no way to actually go back completely?
I'll do the steps like you suggested. Thank you.
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If you use triangle away before you flash stock it will be the same as it was before you rooted = 0 counter. You can root with the root injected stock images and keep the counter intact. Once you install a custom recovery it will trip your counter.
It doesn't matter to someone who flashes roms if the counter is tripped until you need to sell or return for warranty. Triangle away before flashing stock will reset the counter and give you stock with a clean counter and ready to sell/return for service.
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Thanks for the help guys, really appreciate it.
My wife's S3 got the OTA before I had heard of the Knox problem.
Her phone has some major issues after the update & I am trying to find a way to fix it.
I flashed the MK3 all in one ordered Rom posted by Thunder Stick on my S3 & it seems great so far.
My question is: since she already has Knox on her phone, can I put CWM or PhilZ on her's so I can flash the same rom I put on my phone, or will this cause Knox issues? I'm not worried about the warranty counter, just worried about bricking it.
Any input is welcomed.
Thanks y'all
monke30butt said:
My wife's S3 got the OTA before I had heard of the Knox problem.
Her phone has some major issues after the update & I am trying to find a way to fix it.
I flashed the MK3 all in one ordered Rom posted by Thunder Stick on my S3 & it seems great so far.
My question is: since she already has Knox on her phone, can I put CWM or PhilZ on her's so I can flash the same rom I put on my phone, or will this cause Knox issues? I'm not worried about the warranty counter, just worried about bricking it.
Any input is welcomed.
Thanks y'all
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As long as you don't downgrade the bootloader, Read whole 1st POST HERE
joeyhdownsouth said:
As long as you don't downgrade the bootloader, Read whole 1st POST HERE
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I have read that a few times already. I think what I am unclear on is about the difference between the boot loader & recovery. I was thinking that CWM would replace the boot loader & that is what I was worried about. So, if I have it straight now, the CWM & flashable Rom of MK3 will not replace the boot loader? You need a tar to do the bootloader? So will it matter if the rom has had Knox taken out or should I look for one with knox? I was hoping to use the All In One Rom, but it has no Knox.
Sorry to be a pest guys
monke30butt said:
I have read that a few times already. I think what I am unclear on is about the difference between the boot loader & recovery. I was thinking that CWM would replace the boot loader & that is what I was worried about. So, if I have it straight now, the CWM & flashable Rom of MK3 will not replace the boot loader? You need a tar to do the bootloader? So will it matter if the rom has had Knox taken out or should I look for one with knox? I was hoping to use the All In One Rom, but it has no Knox.
Sorry to be a pest guys
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CWM will replace the stock Android recovery. Yes, a tar file can downgrade the bootloader. you can flash any ROM as long you do not downgrade the bootloader.
Thanks Joey
Firstly, Merry Christmas!
I updated to 4.3 on my stock android rom last night and tried to re-root it again this morning and (of course) ran into problems. Trying to flash a rooted stock ROM in Odin caused me to get a "failure" error (Something about Fused 2 > Binary 0, whatever that means) and since I didn't root BEFORE updating, I can't flash a stock rooted ROM through CWM - is there anything I can do to root my phone or even revert back to 4.2? I'm about to try using CF-Autoroot but I don't know how it's going to work (I've read other threads where it's been unsuccessful but I'm crossing my fingers) so if anyone could direct me to a possible solution, I'd be very grateful!
Edit: CF-Autoroot didn't work, ran into a "unsupport dev_type" error when trying to flash it through Odin.
Edit 2: Turns out I had downloaded the wrong CF Autoroot (the Canadian one) so after double-checking, problem solved!
afrobull said:
Firstly, Merry Christmas!
... is there anything I can do to root my phone or even revert back to 4.2?
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Merry Christmas to you ! Not if you upgraded to the 4.3 OTA locked bootloader & Knox. If so, bootloader downgrade attempts will brick your GS3.
You can safely flash some roms. kernels & modems, but flash counter & warranty flag will show it.