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Anyone have some input on the best WP7 phone to get if I want to use it to replace my Kodak digital camera? The camera on the HD7 kind of sucks.
Don't go with the LG Quantum either. In bright daylight it's sort of ok, but as soon as you need flash, it's like taking a picture on a RAZR from 2007. Awful.
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I think the HTC Mozart is the only wp with an 8mp camera. Probably the best?
I would say pretty much all of them are the same; the only phone that has more mp is the HTC Mozart (8mp). Idk if that might make a difference though as mp doesn't necessarily define the whole aspect of good pictures. I hear the focus is nice for taking pictures (in terms of clarity and color balance) as well. It also has the SAMOLED screen, which means the pictures show up more vibrant on your phone
I'm interested in hearing what other people say
Don't know about the Focus, but the Samsung Omnia 7 is definitely the best one available in Europe. I would rank them Samsung, LG, HTC - with the Mozart's 8MP not really being any better than the other HTC phones.
I've been extremely satisfied with the photo quality on my Focus.
its worth pointing out that higher MP does not equal better quality.
Most 5MP cameras will be fine in teh correct lighting conditions, low light is the biggest issue, the reason for this is down to optics and CCD size.
If you had a 12MP camera with a lense the size of the HD2/7 the pictures will be crap in low light as well, to be perfectly honest unless you get a phone with a big arse lense and 5+MP you wont get good "poor" light photos
I find the HD2/7 camera is grand in good lighting, had some cracking shots, mess with the lighting a bit and i pull out my slim line 12MP camera with its 32mm lense
yeah, don't replace your camera.
Just buy a second hand canon Ixus series (60 - 95) for less than £70 on ebay and you won't ever be disappointed! They are ultracompact but the picture quality has always been so good!
I don't really understand people who try to replace their camera with their mobile phone.. the mobile phone will take mediocre shots but i guess you have it with you all the time.
BUt even a cheapo crappy dedicated camera with LOWER MP will shoot better pictures than a 5MP-10MP phone.
Get one of the ultracompacts whcih are actually smaller than a lot of the new smartphones anyway!
I don't think I've used my Omnia 7 camera except for when taking lecture notes on Onenote!
Otherwise I stick to using my Canon 550D and Ixus 95
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I don't really understand people who try to replace their camera with their mobile phone.. the mobile phone will take mediocre shots but at least you have it with you all the time.
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You just answered yourself - it's because you've always got your phone with you. The less gadgets you have to carry the better.
I tend to use my Omnia7 for photos several times a day. Quick snaps of just about anything. The fact they're snaps doesn't mean I'll be happy with ****ty quality though, you never know, you might get lucky enough to catch that one moment and decide you want it printed.
Now, if I'm out specifically for taking photos I'll obviously use my Nikon DSLR, but for everyday use I want a phone that gives at least half decent results.
The fact is that all WP7 cameras could be better. Especially the HTC ones.
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You just answered yourself - it's because you've always got your phone with you. The less gadgets you have to carry the better.
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Yeah agreed it is slightly more convenient..
But I personally don't like swapping quality for slight convenience
I still use my Cowon for music (better sound quality than phone) and carry my ultra compact when out with friends and my DSLR when I want to take decent photos!
I also find that the lens of the phone camera is always grubby resulting in slightly soft photos!
BUt coming back to the topic..I think the OMnia 7 takes fairly decent photos compared to other phones although I don't know how it compares to other WP7
Engadget reckons the Focus has an "impressive camera" and the Omnia 7 has a "good camera" while the others either aren't mentioned in the scorecard or specifically mention "subpar camera"
They've actually posted all the photos so you should have a look yourself.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/29/htc-trophy-review/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/22/samsung-focus-review/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/22/lg-optimus-7-review/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/21/htc-7-mozart-review/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/20/htc-hd7-review/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/20/samsung-omnia-7-review/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/20/htc-surround-review/
I'm having real problems with the focus camera. I can't seem to get a steady shot. Maybe it's because of the hardware button, and I'm slightly moving the camera when I take it. I hope that's it, because it usually takes me 5 or 6 shots to get a decent one...
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I'm having real problems with the focus camera. I can't seem to get a steady shot. Maybe it's because of the hardware button, and I'm slightly moving the camera when I take it. I hope that's it, because it usually takes me 5 or 6 shots to get a decent one...
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Have you tried holding the camera button down half-way to let it focus before taking the pic? Also, there is an anti-shake setting on Focuses (and other Samsungs, I presume), but unfortunately the setting doesn't save.
yes i use the auto-focus feature, i've tried the anti-shake setting, i've tried lowering the resolution, pretty much everything...i can get a decent shot about 1 out of 5
Alright so, here's the deal. Being a photographer, and hearing a lot of you complain about 5mp vs 8mp, you don't know what the hell your talking about.
There is a difference between Image Quality, and resolution. For those of you complaining, do you even know the difference? If you don't then listen up.
Image Quality is self explained. It means just that, the quality of the image. Sensor size has NOTHING to do with quality. Lenses have a lot to do with quality. Also, matching lens size with sensor size will give you better quality. Quality Sensors are everything when it comes to Image Quality.... Imagine that.
But just because you stick a 8mp Sensor in your cell phone with a tiny ass lens, doesn't mean my 5mp DSLR wont stomp your phone in Image quality.
So exactly what does MegaPixels do for you? I'll tell you. It's about print size. That's IT!! At 300ppi, and using a 5MP sensor, you can print up a nice 6"x9" photo of your little kids at the zoo sucking on icecream. Or with your fancy 8mp Cell Phone you can print up a HUGE 8"x11" photo of the same little kids at the zoo sucking on icecream. (not a big difference is there?)
So unless your wanting to print up pictures in 8x11, rather than 6x9, don't worry about it. Here, incase you wanna see it for yourself. http://www.design215.com/toolbox/megapixels.php
If you wanna post your kids sucking on icecream at the zoo to facebook, either camera will work fine, but I betcha the 5mp camera on the Gnex will have better image quality.
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Alright so, here's the deal. Being a photographer, and hearing a lot of you complain about 5mp vs 8mp, you don't know what the hell your talking about.
There is a difference between Image Quality, and resolution. For those of you complaining, do you even know the difference? If you don't then listen up.
Image Quality is self explained. It means just that, the quality of the image. Sensor size has NOTHING to do with quality. Lenses have a lot to do with quality. Also, matching lens size with sensor size will give you better quality. Quality Sensors are everything when it comes to Image Quality.... Imagine that.
But just because you stick a 8mp Sensor in your cell phone with a tiny ass lens, doesn't mean my 5mp DSLR wont stomp your phone in Image quality.
So exactly what does MegaPixels do for you? I'll tell you. It's about print size. That's IT!! At 300ppi, and using a 5MP sensor, you can print up a nice 6"x9" photo of your little kids at the zoo sucking on icecream. Or with your fancy 8mp Cell Phone you can print up a HUGE 8"x11" photo of the same little kids at the zoo sucking on icecream. (not a big difference is there?)
So unless your wanting to print up pictures in 8x11, rather than 6x9, don't worry about it. Here, incase you wanna see it for yourself. http://www.design215.com/toolbox/megapixels.php
If you wanna post your kids sucking on icecream at the zoo to facebook, either camera will work fine, but I betcha the 5mp camera on the Gnex will have better image quality.
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Thumbs up for you, buddy. You see, everyone wants to get photobombed every time they take a photo with their kids at the zoo sucking on ice cream. Seems legit.
Yes, 5mp vs 8mp argument is for idiots. Its all about the sensor and lens quality. Moreover, same size 5mp sensor and 8 mp sensor with same lens, 5mp images will be better and higher quality.
Yup, now lets hope that the sensor is good in Nexus.
More flexibility when cropping is another benefit of higher resolution.
We need an objective thorough review of the phone's camera before making any conclusions much like the op said. Megapixels doesn't mean quality.
Let's wait until the formal release before casting judgement.
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Yup, now lets hope that the sensor is good in Nexus.
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Yup! Exactly.
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Sensor size has NOTHING to do with quality
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Being an amateur photographer myself I completely agree that the pixel count is completely, COMPLETELY irrelevant when it comes down to phone cameras. Where I disagree with your original post is the sentence above. Sensor size has absolutely everything to do with image quality (ie. Full Frame > DX > Micro 4/3rds > Compact > Phone). Fact is you are not going to get a large sensor built into a camera and cramming that sensor with as many light grabbing sensors as possible often leads to noisier, grainier images. This is where sometimes smaller = better.
Please sticky this. I'm tired of hearing people complain about this
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More flexibility when cropping is another benefit of higher resolution.
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Sorry, didn't mention that, but yes, totally.
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Sensor size is a misnomer in this case, I believe the sensor is the same 1/32inch size. In which case, each of those pixels is actually larger. Which means that each individual pixel receives MORE light. Which enhances low-light performance. This same phenomenon is seen when you compare Canon's 5D and 7D cameras. The 7D is 18mp, while the 5D is 21mp, but the 5D's sensor is 1.6 times larger (full 35 vs APS-C) This means that the 5D ends up with superior low light performance, despite not having the full 1.6 times greater pixel count that one might expect.
Admittedly, there are other differences that effect this, such as sensor back-lighting, the quality of the amplifiers, and the compression of the image data. As well, the technology powering the actual sensor, CCD or CMOS, as well as the more in depth tech that goes on at the design level. The 18mp, APS-C sensor from Sony that Nikon uses on it's cameras does not perform the same as the 18mp, APS-C sensor that Canon uses in it's 7D.
...So there it is, if you don't know sensor tech, here is a little explanation from someone who does...
another point is the 5mp = smaller file size = less write time = less lag time = zero shutter speed.
The best daylight photos I have ever had is from my SE k750i. Well old and only 2.5 Mps as I recall
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another point is the 5mp = smaller file size = less write time = less lag time = zero shutter speed.
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I also approve of this post.
In my oppinion, people think smartphones (high-end) should have 8mp at least, because in earlier times, the megapixels were a "real" indicator of the fact, how new and good a mobile phone is, i think.
and of course brands like SE or LG made a real big deal about mp. and its clear, consumers said then: "wow, this new mobile has 8 mp, so its better than the one with 5mp."
but i think today, you cant tell how good a phone is by just looking at the mp. and i also suppose that development in cameras today is more about image quality and no more about mp.
the only issue is that people dont realize that, unfortunately...
Actually Canon also went the other way with some better cameras. They reduced MP size and increased sensor size to improve image quality.....outcome was the best compact Canon camera....
Flippy125 said:
Please sticky this. I'm tired of hearing people complain about this
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We DO have the right to complaint, ain't ??
And in my personal case, here's why:
- I use 8 Mpix in wider mode (which in the end equals aprox 6 MPix)
- Instead of using the digital zoom, I frequently prefer to crop my 8 MPix pics
So this phone is not for me, which is a tad sad because I really wanted to have a taste of pure ice cream sandwich experience
PS: I love your sig, Dawkins rulez
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We DO have the right to complaint, ain't ??
And in my personal case, here's why:
- I use 8 Mpix in wider mode (which in the end equals aprox 6 MPix)
- Instead of using the digital zoom, I frequently prefer to crop my 8 MPix pics
So this phone is not for me, which is a tad sad because I really wanted to have a taste of pure ice cream sandwich experience
PS: I love your sig, Dawkins rulez
"Science is the Poetry of Reality"
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I just found with my Sensation that there isn't much of a difference. The pictures seemed like they were just blown up copies from my G2 with no quality enhancements. Then again, this is HTC. Their speakers and cameras aren't very good.
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the megapixels argument is just a who's got the bigger d*** game.
It means nothing in the long run and in fact, more pixels packed into the same sensor makes the image WORSE!!! and creates more noise.
gtrab said:
We DO have the right to complaint, ain't ??
And in my personal case, here's why:
- I use 8 Mpix in wider mode (which in the end equals aprox 6 MPix)
- Instead of using the digital zoom, I frequently prefer to crop my 8 MPix pics
So this phone is not for me, which is a tad sad because I really wanted to have a taste of pure ice cream sandwich experience
PS: I love your sig, Dawkins rulez
"Science is the Poetry of Reality"
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Just my opinion, but if you have time to crop images "and do it right" why not sharpen it, and photoshop it and enhance it too? That way you won't need an 8mp sensor. Heck, if you have all that time, just use a real camera.
The whole point of these cell phone cameras is it take a quick pic and share to Grandma and what not. I don't think shes gonna care if its cropped or not. If you need professional pictures I don't recommend a cell phone to take them
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I've been reading about how lower MP can actually mean better low light performance and this camera may just beat the 8MP competition. Zero-shutter lag being really awesome too.
But then looking at the photos taken with it by an Android developer...
https://plus.google.com/photos/107606703558161507946/albums/5669407328146570481
Where is this awesome quality? Those pictures look no better than what my Galaxy S takes.
Not only is this outclassed by the 8MP camera in the S2 and iPhone 4S, it may be outclassed by the old 5MP Galaxy/Nexus S.
Those photos seem to have more noise and odd colour compared to photos from my Galaxy S.
Low light photos look like they might be better, but overall these don't look good.
I don't know how people manage to compare image quality between different phone cameras - they all look equally terrible to me.
Not sure how you can make a quality call based on 1 phone and 1 person operating.
How can you tell without having side by side shots of the same scenes at the same time with 2 or 3 different devices?
I find it extremely hard to believe that the Galaxy Nexus would have the same camera performance as the Nexus S.
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How can you tell without having side by side shots of the same scenes at the same time with 2 or 3 different devices?
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Do you need to put a Mini and a bus side by side to tell which is bigger?
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Do you need to put a Mini and a bus side by side to tell which is bigger?
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How is that comparison even remotely similar? Size difference can be seen in anything but pitch black.
Would you be able to determine if the Mini and the bus were the exact same color (exact nuance) in completely different light? No, probably not and even then you are basically cheating because your brain will adjust the colors you see based on what it "knows" other things should look like.
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Do you need to put a Mini and a bus side by side to tell which is bigger?
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That only works because the size of a Mini and a bus are known values (relatively). The quality of this camera is not a known value, and because of that you can't make an accurate comparison.
By this analogy, you're saying that you can look at a photo of one car, and immediately tell me if its the same as another car you've never seen...
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How is that comparison even remotely similar? Size difference can be seen in anything but pitch black.
Would you be able to determine if the Mini and the bus were the exact same color (exact nuance) in completely different light? No, probably not and even then you are basically cheating because your brain will adjust the colors you see based on what it "knows" other things should look like.
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This
People love to jump to conclusions that its a bad camera because its 5MP, and then from that initial point, they simply assume everything it does is terrible. I wonder how the tables would be turned if it were a low quality 12MP camera, and every picture it took was sh*t but everyone just said it was amazing. People see what they want to see.
Just wait until the galaxy nexus comes out, and then you'll see the true power of the 5mp camera they put in it. It will be a great shooter.
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Seriously? Its a phone, not a dedicated camera. If you don't like it don't get the phone.
Punched in..
It really does not look very good. I hope that it is not final version of nexus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dPe3lsoVQA
Chirality said:
I don't know how people manage to compare image quality between different phone cameras - they all look equally terrible to me.
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I agree. Phone cameras arent like absolute trash terrible but they're all so equally bad thats its incredibly hard to tell the difference.
Between the click of the light and the start of a dream.
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It really does not look very good. I hope that it is not final version of nexus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dPe3lsoVQA
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And you're judging that video what about this video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhlL-ys5iOA
So you see we have two totally different videos. Which one should we believe now?
I recommend wait until it's out and test it if possible or trust your preferd reviewer when he did his job with the Nexus.
The only photos I've seen are of a shipping dock. Hard to make that look good.
I am not judging. I am shareing what I found. Video that I posted was shot in "realistic" environment, another one is heavily modified. Anyway, there is no need to be nervous or judgemental.
I agree that we should wait and see how retail model performes.
Lets judging when phone is out
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I am not judging. I am shareing what I found. Video that I posted was shot in "realistic" environment, another one is heavily modified. Anyway, there is no need to be nervous or judgemental.
I agree that we should wait and see how retail model performes.
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That's what the filmer says to the video.
The only processing done on the original footage was to speed it up in the first clip.
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The video clips were shot without the help of a tripod and shake a little bit. The time-lapse clips were shot using a Stage Zero Dolly from Dynamic Perception
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So it was as well made under "realistic" circumstances. Expect from the first part. But he is a Android dev so who knows if it's true or not.
I didn't really pay much attention to the camera on the Galaxy Nexus as it seems good enough. The Engadget comparisons sometimes show it on par with the Nexus S, sometimes a little worse. What I'm more interested in is the 1080p video, which looks a whole lot better than anything else on the market (I've seen a dozen videos from different places already) and even better than the Galaxy S II. The audio capture, another sadly ignored pivotal part of video recording, is quite stellar. It really irks me when all the reviewers tout the earsplitting garble of sound on HTC phones as first-class because they look at the 44khz stereo spec and somehow ignore the actual sound, which is really terrible. I would love to get a unibody HTC phone, but this has been their achilles heel for me, and their video capture as a whole.
You can't deny that the camera on a phone is important, is a very very big selling point, and many people do make their buying decisions on the phone's ability to replace a dedicated point-and-shoot camera, and many phones are at that level right now. If you are too enamored with DSLR quality photos, you might not notice that camera quality in phones has jumped up leaps and bounds, regardless of MP. My five megapixel Samsung slider I bought 4 years ago is worse than your typical 5 megapixel budget smartphone camera. It's also 50% fatter and super slow. The software and processing, backlight sensors, wide angles, apertures, and other fancy stuff have improved drastically over the years. 1080p video is leaps and bounds above the QCIF stuff only a few years back.
Um, am I alone in thinking those pictures look just dandy? It's a phone. I'm not taking artistic photos, as long as they're clear and sharp (which those are) then there's no issue.
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Um, am I alone in thinking those pictures look just dandy? It's a phone. I'm not taking artistic photos, as long as they're clear and sharp (which those are) then there's no issue.
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+1 on that. And Most of the pictures where shaky und unsharp but that's due to the user and not to the camera. The pictures which were sharp however are okay and look totally fine for a phone.
have we all really forgotten about the fact that if you upload a picture to most websites, the picture becomes compressed?
being a car enthusiast like others here apparently, this is like comparing the same car on the same track with the same driver.. except one lap is in the rain and one lap is in the dry. of course results will be different!
For everyone who is complaining about the quality of the camera, I don't see what you're basing your judgement on. First, admit right now that all cell phone cameras take crap pictures! It's simple physics. Your point and shoot camera is only marginally better. More to the point, the limited samples I have seen would appear on par with other current devices. But without a comprehensive side by side comparison of the Galaxy Nexus to the 4s (or others) either qualitatively or quantitatively in a controlled environment, you just can't tell much. Shooting video of the sun and then the ground demonstrates very little especially when the comparison video is un-synced and crammed into a small PIP box.
Seems some are having a knee jerk reaction to not getting all 8 megapixels. Unless you are printing 8x10s, it doesn't really matter. If you are, get a DSLR! A good quality lower resolution camera can easily spank a cheaper higher resolution camera. The glass plays a huge role. As do chromatic aberration, exposure, latitude, color balance, sensitivity, focus, speed, image stabilization, noise reduction, white balance and so on. And don't even get me started on compression.
I was messing with a Galaxy 2 today, and noticed that it had a 8mp camera on it. I thought the quality of the pictures were also really nice. How does the Nexus's camera compare to the one that is on the galaxy 2? Also, why would the downgrade the camera? I know that mega pixels isn't everything when it comes to pictures, but is the nexus 5mp camera better somehow that the 8mp that comes on other recent devices?
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Unfortunately there is nothing special about the 5mp camera on the nexus.
I can't speak for the galaxy s2, but coming from a Droid 1 which also has a 5mp camera I can say the nexus completely blows it away, very sharp too. Same MP, big difference. There are many discussions on what makes a 8mp camera suck and say, a 5mp be better, ill avoid that road but say it is more than just MP!
And as a second thought, its a phone! The nexus camera is more than adequate, and if you really need top quality, buy a real camera
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While there is more than MP the best unfortunate truth is that most high end phones have better sensors AND more MP
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I'm not 100% sure but I believe megapixel has to do with the size of the photo?
Quality of the camera doesn't really depend on the megapixel.
Despite saying that, the galaxy nexus camera isn't that good. The software is ok but I think its worse then my 5megapixel camera that used to be on my galaxy s captivate.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. Just my thoughts.
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my old htc Dinc got a 8mp camera, to compare the both, i dont see any differences beside the GNex came are godly fast.
I can coax better shots out of my Dinc...
That and stock software takes terrible shots, not even at the expense of speed, just poor decisions in noise reduction.
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I wonder if they choose to use a smaller sensor to keep the camera so fast. Maybe the larger sensors weren't performing as well speed wise. But I agree others, it isn't the best out there.
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my old htc Dinc got a 8mp camera, to compare the both, i dont see any differences beside the GNex came are godly fast.
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I can coax better shots out of my Dinc...
That and stock software takes terrible shots, not even at the expense of speed, just poor decisions in noise reduction.
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bummer. the camera is one of the main deciding factors for me. i'll be upgrading from a Dinc, and while it served me well the past two years, I really would like to upgrade to a better phone cam, since the Dinc's cam is terrible at low light situations and can overexpose at outdoors. the flash on it is terrible also, being overly bright, which just washes out the photo. do i have another option in verizon, or is the iphone 4s my only other option? my upgrade is due now by the way. thanks.
MP is just the size of the photos. How good a camera is has a lot more to do with just the MP count. However, MP count does play an important role in phone photography. 99% of the phone camera lenses have no optical zoom. All the "zoom" are digital zoom, which just means cropping and enlarging the original picture. In this case, all else equal, the higher the MP, the better the "zoomed" result. Moreover, and very unfortunately, MP count aside, the lens and the sensor on the Galaxy Nexus are pretty poor.
The camera isn't amazing, but I would definitely not suggest anything but the GNex since it's all round just a perfect phone, you'll regret not getting it IMO.
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bummer. the camera is one of the main deciding factors for me. i'll be upgrading from a Dinc, and while it served me well the past two years, I really would like to upgrade to a better phone cam, since the Dinc's cam is terrible at low light situations and can overexpose at outdoors. the flash on it is terrible also, being overly bright, which just washes out the photo. do i have another option in verizon, or is the iphone 4s my only other option? my upgrade is due now by the way. thanks.
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If I were you on verizon I would get the Rezound. It has a really nice camera compared to the Gnex and it also has a 1280x720 screen and even a more powerful GPU (but not CPU). I had it before I switched it for my gnex but I can't stand not having an AMOLED screen otherwise id still have that phone.
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If I were you on verizon I would get the Rezound. It has a really nice camera compared to the Gnex and it also has a 1280x720 screen and even a more powerful GPU (but not CPU). I had it before I switched it for my gnex but I can't stand not having an AMOLED screen otherwise id still have that phone.
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yea i was trying out that phone in store. it's a bit of a brick though, and i wasn't impressed with the screen as well. any other ones coming out soon that i should wait for? will verizon get the galaxy S3?
Im impressed with the GNex cam. I do a lot of custom paint and mostly metallics so i like to take very close pics and they always come out great
I've been using the A70 for about a week. I interacted with some A70 owners and they said that the phone had 8MP main camera and not the 32MP main camera. I gave a try to some hardware info apps and all showed 8MP camera at the back and 5.2MP camera on the front. What's wrong here? The phone is showing wrong info or it just has an 8MP camera. Can everyone confirm this?
I have also made a video on it. I'm just trying to get an answer from all the Galaxy A70 owners about their experience with this phone.
You can check it here: https://youtu.be/tOM9oNWV_rQ
I wish I'm wrong on this, Everyone please drop your comments.
No, it really is a 32mp camera module. Samsung, for whatever reason, have crammed the 32mp option in a submenu inside the camera app. Tap on the format button and choose 3:4H. Now you'll be able to use the full resolution of the camera.
Just be aware that - I don't know why - HDR does not work in 32mp mode.
All I can say is that pictures taken in low light conditions are amongst the worst I have seen. Absolutely terrible picture quality worthy of a 100$ budget phone not a premium 400$ phone.
Even my 3 years old A9 Pro 2016 has better low light capability.
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All I can say is that pictures taken in low light conditions are amongst the worst I have seen. Absolutely terrible picture quality worthy of a 100$ budget phone not a premium 400$ phone.
Even my 3 years old A9 Pro 2016 has better low light capability.
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I second that. I don't know why Samsung had to cripple their camera module this hard via software. Using Gcam though, the camera does produce great results in low light!
Irrespective of MP number, picture quality isn't great for sub $400 phone. Can they fix with software update? or need to change phone?
um009 said:
I've been using the A70 for about a week. I interacted with some A70 owners and they said that the phone had 8MP main camera and not the 32MP main camera. I gave a try to some hardware info apps and all showed 8MP camera at the back and 5.2MP camera on the front. What's wrong here? The phone is showing wrong info or it just has an 8MP camera. Can everyone confirm this?
I have also made a video on it. I'm just trying to get an answer from all the Galaxy A70 owners about their experience with this phone.
I wish I'm wrong on this, Everyone please drop your comments.
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I actually wrote a post about this, didn´t see yours, was too eager to write my first post here I guess. The camera uses a new Samsung technology which only works if you choose 4:3H aspect ratio, there is no way to choose file size for each respective ratio. The pictures are hardware 4 x 8MP rendered and since the technology is new all third party camera and HW info apps only view the 8 MP .. not the x4 tetracell technology which works and is implemented in an abysmal manner.
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Jason379 said:
No, it really is a 32mp camera module. Samsung, for whatever reason, have crammed the 32mp option in a submenu inside the camera app. Tap on the format button and choose 3:4H. Now you'll be able to use the full resolution of the camera.
Just be aware that - I don't know why - HDR does not work in 32mp mode.
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What if one usually only uses 16:9 aspect ratio? .. limited to 8 MP? ... I call that false advertising.
Jason379 said:
I second that. I don't know why Samsung had to cripple their camera module this hard via software. Using Gcam though, the camera does produce great results in low light!
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Can you tell us wich version of Gcam u use, and where to find it ?
Edit: See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0D1U0aSgKE for example.
Seems like at the moment Gcam is only better for taking photo's in low light......
Snoete said:
Can you tell us wich version of Gcam u use, and where to find it ?
Edit: See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0D1U0aSgKE for example.
Seems like at the moment Gcam is only better for taking photo's in low light......
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Hi,
I used this version of Gcam:
S10_1_MGC_6.1.021_BSG_Arnova_TlnNeun_V1.3.030119.0 645.apk
You can find it on Androidfilehost, for example. Works like a charm on my A70. Lots of settings are actually possible - just don't try to 'force 4K on front camera' mode - it'll make the app crash all the time. Other than that, Gcam really is way better than the stock camera app and HDR+ works really really good, too. Only downside - pics are limited to 8MP at the moment, but when using RAW, it's not a big deal at all.
Jason379 said:
Hi,
I used this version of Gcam:
S10_1_MGC_6.1.021_BSG_Arnova_TlnNeun_V1.3.030119.0 645.apk
You can find it on Androidfilehost, for example. Works like a charm on my A70. Lots of settings are actually possible - just don't try to 'force 4K on front camera' mode - it'll make the app crash all the time. Other than that, Gcam really is way better than the stock camera app and HDR+ works really really good, too. Only downside - pics are limited to 8MP at the moment, but when using RAW, it's not a big deal at all.
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I downloaded the samd apk, does your night mode shots also crash the app ?
Download this Gcam mod to get full working night mode on the A70:
MGC_6.1.021_MI8_V2e
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=1395089523397887533
Make sure you make a few necessary changes in app settings by following this video:
https://youtu.be/0cRMt39V8Po
Getting great low light shots with this mod. Other Apks crash when taking a photo in night mode.
Hi,
I must say that, whatever the causes, the pictures taken by this device are simply horrible.
I am not one of those so called photographers that is looking for the absolute colour reproduction and the sharpness of 10X real life.
I just want to have some pictures for moments I want to remember.
But even for that, this device doesn't do the job
All pictures are blurry, out of focus...
I can't even set the picture quality in the settings of the camera app.
I just can set the aspect ratio (in the Photo part) and the video resolution in the settings.
But no way to set the number of pixels I want for the pictures.
That is another dark side of this device that looked so promising on paper but doesn't deliver at all.
So goes Samsung... and device will be sent back to Amazon.
NexusPenguin said:
Hi,
I must say that, whatever the causes, the pictures taken by this device are simply horrible.
I am not one of those so called photographers that is looking for the absolute colour reproduction and the sharpness of 10X real life.
I just want to have some pictures for moments I want to remember.
But even for that, this device doesn't do the job
All pictures are blurry, out of focus...
I can't even set the picture quality in the settings of the camera app.
I just can set the aspect ratio (in the Photo part) and the video resolution in the settings.
But no way to set the number of pixels I want for the pictures.
That is another dark side of this device that looked so promising on paper but doesn't deliver at all.
So goes Samsung... and device will be sent back to Amazon.
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Agreed, this phones's cameras suck.
You can choose high resolution mode (32mp) by tapping on the small 3:4 button then choosing 3:4H (H stands for high quality or high resolution).
There is an update rolling in India right now which promises to improve camera quality.
Sufyan3D said:
Agreed, this phones's cameras suck.
You can choose high resolution mode (32mp) by tapping on the small 3:4 button then choosing 3:4H (H stands for high quality or high resolution).
There is an update rolling in India right now which promises to improve camera quality.
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Sounds very promising. In the meantime, use the app 'open camera' for 100% JPG quality or even full size RAW output. It's got fully manual controls, too.
Yes, it looks like camera software improvements are coming soon:
https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_pushes_first_software_update_for_the_galaxy_a70-news-37147.php
We'll have to wait to see how much it's improved...
SAMSUNG A70 CAMERA Poor Quality images and videos
I just bought Samsung a70, and the camera gives very poor images for 738 kb sizes only. I bought that mobile from samsung site, how to return the mobile. any help.
i am more than disappointed with the main camera...it is below any standards for modern phones...even my no name chinese phone couple of years old is making better photos....it is a shame for samsung to produce such half hearted pathetic camera...photos are smudgy, soft, and lack sharpness...auto focus is sluggish and in most cases you don't know is it even work...my old phone has clear green square signs all over screen which shows if photo is in focus or not, here you don't know what is going on...samsung is trying to impress all of us with 32mp number, but it is pathetic as well...i have tried some of the gcam camera and results are clearly better....so, it is obvious samsung is treating customers badly and sell them inferior camera not only to direct competition regarding price, but camera which is even worse than cameras in 50 dollars no name chinese phones...to say i am feeling cheated is understatement...
to be honest, live focus/blur/portrait mode is doing very good job?? how come? it looks like samsung is artificially made camera bad and not even try to make things better through software changes...
i would like to hear your thoughts about it? are you feeling cheated and disappointed about main camera in a70?
Tactman said:
i am more than disappointed with the main camera...it is below any standards for modern phones...even my no name chinese phone couple of years old is making better photos....it is a shame for samsung to produce such half hearted pathetic camera...photos are smudgy, soft, and lack sharpness...auto focus is sluggish and in most cases you don't know is it even work...my old phone has clear green square signs all over screen which shows if photo is in focus or not, here you don't know what is going on...samsung is trying to impress all of us with 32mp number, but it is pathetic as well...i have tried some of the gcam camera and results are clearly better....so, it is obvious samsung is treating customers badly and sell them inferior camera not only to direct competition regarding price, but camera which is even worse than cameras in 50 dollars no name chinese phones...to say i am feeling cheated is understatement...
to be honest, live focus/blur/portrait mode is doing very good job?? how come? it looks like samsung is artificially made camera bad and not even try to make things better through software changes...
i would like to hear your thoughts about it? are you feeling cheated and disappointed about main camera in a70?
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Back camera is simply bad.
Front camera is very good and specially in night. All I would like to change in that phone is the back camera which I do not really understand why Samsung are doing this....
Samsung A70 32MP camera (top camera) is not working
All cameras the 8MP, 5MP and the front camera are working. Im sure they are working because I tried blocking each one depending on settings. But I cant seem to find the settings on how will the top camera will work. I tried the 3:4H ratio already but its the middle camera that is being utilized. For the wide angle, it is the bottom back camera. How can I utilize the top camera at the back?
Engrfusi said:
All cameras the 8MP, 5MP and the front camera are working. Im sure they are working because I tried blocking each one depending on settings. But I cant seem to find the settings on how will the top camera will work. I tried the 3:4H ratio already but its the middle camera that is being utilized. For the wide angle, it is the bottom back camera. How can I utilize the top camera at the back?
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well, top camera's job is depth. You can use it with live focus.
32MP one is in the middle of them. It's the main camera.
And bottom camera is wide angle as you knew.
NexusPenguin said:
Hi,
I must say that, whatever the causes, the pictures taken by this device are simply horrible.
I am not one of those so called photographers that is looking for the absolute colour reproduction and the sharpness of 10X real life.
I just want to have some pictures for moments I want to remember.
But even for that, this device doesn't do the job
All pictures are blurry, out of focus...
I can't even set the picture quality in the settings of the camera app.
I just can set the aspect ratio (in the Photo part) and the video resolution in the settings.
But no way to set the number of pixels I want for the pictures.
That is another dark side of this device that looked so promising on paper but doesn't deliver at all.
So goes Samsung... and device will be sent back to Amazon.
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this phone a70 is a total lie.
it has a 8 magapixel awful camera.
it is absolutely not 32 megapixel by hardware. maybe it is 32 megapixel by software.
photos have no details, overprocessed, photos are washed out. like a watercolor paint. there are no textures. all textures are washed out.
colors are either too washy or either too bright.
low light performance is among the worst.
SAMSUNG, DO YOU KNOW THE WORD CALIBRATION???
and by 6 months this lier company released to market after A10,A20,A30,A40,A50,A60,A70,A80,A90 the s variants.
A10s,A20s,A30s,A40s,A50s,A60s,A70s etc.
now they have released the 1 variants.
A11,A21,A31,A41,A61,A71 etc etc
this samsung company is a total lier. hoax company.
trying to dominate the market by flooding with fake phones almost all the same hardware... market lies.
incomplete products, incomplete software, full of bugs, full of bloatware...
and i forgot they have the M10,M20,M30 as well as M20s,M30s....
pufffff LIER HOAX COMPANY SAMSUNG.