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Small Sense ROM for updating PRL

I use CyanogenMOD and wanted to update my PRL (since I haven't done that since getting on CyanogenMOD 6+ months ago). I understand the only way to do that is to flash to a Sense based MOD, update, then restore CyanogenMOD back.
So if that information is still correct, what would the lightest, smallest, Sense based mod be right now to do just that? I just want to flash the mod, do a backup of it, then store it for future PRL updates, so I need it as small as possible.
Any suggestions?

As you know theres no way to update your PRL through settings,you will need to download the update and flash it... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883226

Diablo67 said:
As you know theres no way to update your PRL through settings,you will need to download the update and flash it... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883226
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That doesn't help me. I know that I can't do it via CM (as I stated in my original post). What I need to know is what Sense based ROM is the smallest. I want to flash a Sense based ROM and then do a backup of that ROM to keep around for future PRL updates rather than having to flash a fresh ROM. Since I want to keep a backup, I'd like it to be small. No extra bloatware at all.
Any suggestions as to the smallest Sense based ROM?

This might be what you're looking for, Its a bare bones Sense Rom. Link below...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1412005

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This might be what you're looking for, Its a bare bones Sense Rom. Link below...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1412005
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Thanks. I'll try that out.

A Few Questions about ICS Roms...

Hello everyone,
I want to update my phone to an ICS rom, but I am a little confused about the terminology and all the options available. I have a few questions:
1. What is the direction that the development is taking in terms of ICS roms? I mean, I am not really sure what "FC07" means and why it would be better than a different combination of letters and numbers.
In layman's terms, when will we see an ICS rom that could be considered "final" or free of bugs and on par with what Galaxy Nexus users have?
With that said, what is the best ICS rom today?
2. I want to customize my phone for faster internet speeds. I was considering switching to Verizon simply for faster network speeds, but the hassle might not be worth it. What tips do you have to help me achieve faster speeds and more reliable coverage on this phone?
Are there specific modems you would recommend for faster internet speeds?
What about custom PRLs? I was told that you can use a custom PRL to force Verizon 3g speeds on your phone, at risk of your contract being terminated.
Is it true that if I did use a Verizon custom PRL I would achieve speeds identical to if I had a Galaxy Nexus on Verizon?
Anyway, what combination of modem/custom PRL would you suggest to achieve the best coverage and fastest speeds on the E4GT?
3. I have heard a lot about changing the resolution of the Epic 4g Touch to simulate a 720p display, making the icons smaller. Would you recommend I do this? Does this work with the ICS roms?
4. A while back there were tweaks to improve the quality of the camera, especially for recording movies. I remember a hack for the international Galaxy S2 that did this. I think there was one for the E4GT as well.
Could you refer me to any camera tweaks to increase bitrate and so forth?
5. And finally, which kernel and overclocking apps should I use?
Thanks for taking my questions.

ICS ROMs
Having followed the ICS ROM discussion non-stop I hope I can answer the questions on that part. I'll leave the other questions up to smarter (and more experienced) people than me!
CW (common wisdom) suggests ROM IDs are:
F - Seems to indicate year - in particular, 2012.
May also indicate ICS as seems first introduced around same time.
C - Seems to indicate build month. (A-Jan, B-Feb, etc.)
07 - Seems to indicate build day. (3/7/2012)
FC07 is reported by many to be quite stable but I haven't heard anyone sign off an ICS build to be a daily use ROM. Calkulin's ROMs seem to be quite popular as well - he just released a new FC14 build.
There's reviews for most recent builds on YouTube if you want to get an idea of what is changed. Might help you before you decide whether to jump on ICS now or wait.
As for when one will go OTA - again, CW suggests at least 10 days after a build is approved by Sprint. (Found it in another thread, just don't remember which one.)
If you're thinking about going to ICS, please keep an eye on the thread linked below and follow the instructions when flashing ROMs. There are a lot of bricks going on - reading this may save your phone (and you some $$$)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
Hope this helps!

To answer your question #1....Any of the leaked roms ie: FC07, FC14, are very stable and ready for everyday use for most. Also any of the Roms based off of those rooms like calks, Mijjz, and others. However, the best ICS from out there right now is aokp. Its almost stable with just a few minor bugs. It gives you a TON OF OPTIONS! Do be careful, lots of bricks happening!
Regarding question #2, in ,y experience, hacked Verizon prls sort of iffy. I've tried 11115 with roam control and half of the time it won't connect to 3g and when it does the speeds are mediocre.
Hope this helps! Oh also when going back to gingerbread from ics, USE ODIN TO FLASH AN EL29 TAR! Or else YOU WILL BRICK!!!!!!!

Hey guys. Thanks for all the info.
I just came from a G2x, and this process is way different.
I used Odin to root stock EL29, and then installed Rogue with the one-click. Right?
Now can I flash an EL29 ROM through Rogue? Can I also flash a different modem through Rogue, (i.e. FC07) and a "matching" ROM? And if I follow correctly, after that, if I want to change it, I have to Odin back to EL29 first?
Just trying to catch on to the different terminology.
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Beekersguy said:
Hey guys. Thanks for all the info.
I just came from a G2x, and this process is way different.
I used Odin to root stock EL29, and then installed Rogue with the one-click. Right?
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Good so far.
Beekersguy said:
Now can I flash an EL29 ROM through Rogue? Can I also flash a different modem through Rogue, (i.e. FC07) and a "matching" ROM? And if I follow correctly, after that, if I want to change it, I have to Odin back to EL29 first?
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Think you have a good handle on it. General rule of thumb is:
GB Kernel - CWM/CWMT/ODIN OK
ICS Kernel - Only use ODIN. CWM/CWMT will likely brick at wipe operation.
You might want to read over this thread if you haven't already:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
Good luck!

So, if I understand correctly, I can flash different EL versions through Rogue recovery, but if I want to jump on ICS, I need to use Odin.
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Actually:
From EL you can flash anything - ODIN/CWM
From ICS/CM9 you need to flash using ODIN - even if it's just to get back to EL and then flash again using CWM.
Hope this clears it up.

garwynn said:
Actually:
From EL you can flash anything - ODIN/CWM
From ICS/CM9 you need to flash using ODIN - even if it's just to get back to EL and then flash again using CWM.
Hope this clears it up.
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Dude, thank you sooo much.
I just got this phone yesterday, and I've read a TON of stuff in this forum, and I just wanted to verify that I was generally on-track with flashing methodology.
I think I'll try a few EL29 ROMs for now.

[Q] wheres the official ics build?

I've been unable to locate the OFFICIAL version of ics for the a100. I cant receive the ota because I have the leaked rom already. Well I've got flex so that should sum it up. Reverting back to HC was a failure and only led me to bricking my device. Long story short I'm using teamwin's recovery and I am fully rooted. Just looking for the official ota and not the leaked ics...

Is there such thing?
I have been reading dozens of posts here, and accoding to it I think there is no oficial ICS because what they're pushing is and update/upgrade, not a full ROM.
So, if you want to do it manually, try a newer leaked one, or a stock one. I don´t know which one will work for you since I´m in the process to try one after another myself. At the moment, I gave up of trying GEN2 and switched to GEN1.

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I have been reading dozens of posts here, and accoding to it I think there is no oficial ICS because what they're pushing is and update/upgrade, not a full ROM.
So, if you want to do it manually, try a newer leaked one, or a stock one. I don´t know which one will work for you since I´m in the process to try one after another myself. At the moment, I gave up of trying GEN2 and switched to GEN1.
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um...that isn't exactly factual AT ALL...
The STOCK ROM posted in the devs section is the OTA that was delivered to some tablets earlier last week. Both build numbers and image numbers have matched up. Now i'm not sure what would make this a "complete" rom to you...but a couple of things are missing from the ACER ICS that some were looking for:
ie...facelock...acer ring (which isn't even ics related per se)...
The rom that everyone is using is THE STOCK rom....not a LEAKED INCOMPLETE rom...

Well I wanted the updated rom.. was hoping someone mined it from their device with everything already on it. I'll continue to wait I suppose. Flex rom is beautiful and would probably switch back right after anyways...since I got you guys here..know of any other custom roms?

sernzrevenge said:
Well I wanted the updated rom.. was hoping someone mined it from their device with everything already on it. I'll continue to wait I suppose. Flex rom is beautiful and would probably switch back right after anyways...since I got you guys here..know of any other custom roms?
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.... Read Cheeb's response again. The version posted in the developer's section (and if you search for longer than a few minutes in the dev section, you can find multiple locations to download it from) IS the updated version, that came from people's tablets.
If you wanted an actual image to flash using fastboot, etc... I guess you could build yourself one. *shrug*

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um...that isn't exactly factual AT ALL...
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If I´m wrong, why every ROM I downloaded and/or captured from my OTA´s is different? Aren´t they giving us differential upgrades?
The only ROM we can so call official would be a full ROM.

rising power said:
If I´m wrong, why every ROM I downloaded and/or captured from my OTA´s is different? Aren´t they giving us differential upgrades?
The only ROM we can so call official would be a full ROM.
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Agreed

Synica1 said:
.... Read Cheeb's response again. The version posted in the developer's section (and if you search for longer than a few minutes in the dev section, you can find multiple locations to download it from) IS the updated version, that came from people's tablets.
If you wanted an actual image to flash using fastboot, etc... I guess you could build yourself one. *shrug*
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You gonna teach me how to do that?

In-place upgrade for JB's release? Please help

If someone can PLEASE answer this question for me I would really appreciate it. I recently rooted my S3 so I can download and use rooted apps. I also changed my battery and wifi icons to look like ICS's icons (the blue ones) and removed some the samsung applications with root uninstaller. Will updating to Jellybean ruin my phone or something? Would I need to re-root my phone after installing it when its released? I want to keep all my apps and information as well. I figure this would be a upgrade like how windows does it. T'm new to this just so you guys know.
From another thread someone mention about devs making JB roms for rooted phones which leaves me to my next question
When a dev pushes out the updated JB ROM how will that be different compare to how samsung does it? Will it remove all my apps and personal information?Or is it like upgrading a operating system like windows? Also would there version of JB be like a stock rom or like Samsung with touch wize. I still want my camera to work as well as wifi. I heard from other thread they dont seem to work when updating roms?

javier180 said:
If someone can PLEASE answer this question for me I would really appreciate it. I recently rooted my S3 so I can download and use rooted apps. I also changed my battery and wifi icons to look like ICS's icons (the blue ones) and removed some the samsung applications with root uninstaller. Will updating to Jellybean ruin my phone or something? Would I need to re-root my phone after installing it when its released? I want to keep all my apps and information as well. I figure this would be a upgrade like how windows does it. T'm new to this just so you guys know.
From another thread someone mention about devs making JB roms for rooted phones which leaves me to my next question
When a dev pushes out the updated JB ROM how will that be different compare to how samsung does it? Will it remove all my apps and personal information?Or is it like upgrading a operating system like windows? Also would there version of JB be like a stock rom or like Samsung with touch wize. I still want my camera to work as well as wifi. I heard from other thread they dont seem to work when updating roms?
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Any rom that a developer makes is not going to be an official release and therefore will need to be flashed, this will wipe everything. Usually when people flash roms they use a tool such as Titanium Backup to backup all their apps and stuff. If you don't want to lose any data you would have to wait for an OTA (over the air) update for JB, this will keep all your data in tact although to do a OTA update you have to have all the stock apps I believe.

Halmo said:
Any rom that a developer makes is not going to be an official release and therefore will need to be flashed, this will wipe everything. Usually when people flash roms they use a tool such as Titanium Backup to backup all their apps and stuff. If you don't want to lose any data you would have to wait for an OTA (over the air) update for JB, this will keep all your data in tact although to do a OTA update you have to have all the stock apps I believe.
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Im new to the terms.. isnt flash the same as install?
Also, I used Odin to root my phone, How would I go about flashing the JB rom to my phone? Hopefully I'm saying this right. The thing I dont get since Samsung is releasing JB to the s3 why would the JB work flawless with the s3. Couldnt they use the Nexus 7's JB and port it to the S3. I'm still trying to understand how all this works. I dont want to have any hardware issues, like my camera or wifi not working from what i heard in the past.

Good for you on successfully rooting your phone and doing a few things to make it suit you more better. But you will have to do some searching and alot of reading to understand some more.
Right now your phone is rooted Samsung doesn't want to update your phone cause you've already kinda said I don't like the way you do things samsung by rooting your phone. If you want, you can unroot your phone and flash a stock jelly bean rom when and if it gets released and then re-root your phone and do some more changes if you need or want to with the new update. Issue with this is that you have to wait and it takes longer for Samsung to release updates than third party developers can create them, there are pros and cons to doing third party roms same with using stock manufacture releases. its all comes down to the person you are and what you want from your phone. No one can tell you what to do and what is right to do thats your choice because mainly there are lots of choices with these phones.
With that being said its rumoured that samsung will be releasing jelly bean faster than it did other updates, but thats a rumour still. I haven't been following the development of the SG3 lots as I'm pretty happy with my rooted ICS at the moment and don't mind waiting. I don't think there is a clean stable Jelly Bean rom out there at the moment, I know they are coming and are being worked on very hard but the great teams at XDA. I also know the international version has a little more support than the North American versions.
When and if you decide to get a third party rom there are different ways you can install or flash them. Developers will almost always have clear instructions on how to install them, usually requires you backing up cause you'll lose everything and downloading a zip file putting it onto your phone and installing it with Clock Work Mod, if you don't know what that is search for it there is lots of info on it. You can also flash the updates with odin but I believe Clock Work Mod "CWM" is the better way of doing it.
Also just because jelly bean is on other devices doesn't mean its easy to bring it over to another device there are hardware differences, especially between manufactures, features are different and lots and lots of other things, its not like windows and you cant put it onto any device and it just figures it out and works.

Its_Dave said:
Good for you on successfully rooting your phone and doing a few things to make it suit you more better. But you will have to do some searching and alot of reading to understand some more.
Right now your phone is rooted Samsung doesn't want to update your phone cause you've already kinda said I don't like the way you do things samsung by rooting your phone. If you want, you can unroot your phone and flash a stock jelly bean rom when and if it gets released and then re-root your phone and do some more changes if you need or want to with the new update. Issue with this is that you have to wait and it takes longer for Samsung to release updates than third party developers can create them, there are pros and cons to doing third party roms same with using stock manufacture releases. its all comes down to the person you are and what you want from your phone. No one can tell you what to do and what is right to do thats your choice because mainly there are lots of choices with these phones.
With that being said its rumoured that samsung will be releasing jelly bean faster than it did other updates, but thats a rumour still. I haven't been following the development of the SG3 lots as I'm pretty happy with my rooted ICS at the moment and don't mind waiting. I don't think there is a clean stable Jelly Bean rom out there at the moment, I know they are coming and are being worked on very hard but the great teams at XDA. I also know the international version has a little more support than the North American versions.
When and if you decide to get a third party rom there are different ways you can install or flash them. Developers will almost always have clear instructions on how to install them, usually requires you backing up cause you'll lose everything and downloading a zip file putting it onto your phone and installing it with Clock Work Mod, if you don't know what that is search for it there is lots of info on it. You can also flash the updates with odin but I believe Clock Work Mod "CWM" is the better way of doing it.
Also just because jelly bean is on other devices doesn't mean its easy to bring it over to another device there are hardware differences, especially between manufactures, features are different and lots and lots of other things, its not like windows and you cant put it onto any device and it just figures it out and works.
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I cant thank you enough for this reply. It was very informative! I been doing some research as well so I can get a better understanding on how these roms work. As sad as this sounds I found out cyanogenmod10 is basically a mod rom of jellybean. If these rumors are in fact true, would the jellybean release from samsung speed of the developing process for cyanogenmod10? Since they should share the same code or what not.
I think at this point I dont care to backup. All my pics are sync to my dropbox automatically and my can go to the playstore and redownload my payed apps there. So backing up is not needed with me.

Yeah, CM10 is a 4.1.1 rom as far as I know, I still have my old i9000 and installed it on it the other day. Its nice and has all the jelly bean features, I find it a bit laggy but all the functions work great. The laggyness is hard to say, the phone is old but they are also still porting over all the features, I think its a bit of both at the moment but since its not my daily main phone I don't play with it alot.
The Cyanogenmod is a great rom, and lots of third party roms are based off that rom just with other mods on top of it. Personally since its still a beta like it says in the forum i'm willing to wait and the rumours on jelly bean coming from samsung at the end of august seem to me more true by the day. And once that is released or leaked CM will be alot better faster. But you never know still waiting on ICS from those slow pokes on my tab 10.1 while in the mean time they have released two more tables with ICS haha.
So like i have said before its really up to you. You can install the beta and try it out, I know people are using it as a daily driver. And you can always flash back to stock.

[Q] Flash EVO 4G back to stock ROM

Does anyone have a working link to a stock EVO 4G stock ROM that can then be used to update to the latest stock ROM+radios+whatever? I've been searching around here and the Internet in general, but I'm having trouble wading through the sea of dead links to stock ROMs and links to ROMs that have been hacked to remove radios and whatnot.
I've been using the last good Evervolv JB ROM and it's just too unstable, and my radios and stuff are probably out of date too, so I'd like to try going back to stock for a while.
Note regarding root: It would be nice to be able to keep root, but not if it means having to use stock ROMs that have been modified to the point where it will be a pain to update to the latest stock ROM+radios+whatever. I can always re-unroot myself if needed.
Thanks!

HunterZ0 said:
Does anyone have a working link to a stock EVO 4G stock ROM that can then be used to update to the latest stock ROM+radios+whatever? I've been searching around here and the Internet in general, but I'm having trouble wading through the sea of dead links to stock ROMs and links to ROMs that have been hacked to remove radios and whatnot.
I've been using the last good Evervolv JB ROM and it's just too unstable, and my radios and stuff are probably out of date too, so I'd like to try going back to stock for a while.
Note regarding root: It would be nice to be able to keep root, but not if it means having to use stock ROMs that have been modified to the point where it will be a pain to update to the latest stock ROM+radios+whatever. I can always re-unroot myself if needed.
Thanks!
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I'm looking for the exact same thing... I'd like to go back to the stock HTC Sense ROM, but I've lost my old backup copy (long story) and having trouble finding a suitable replacement. Did you happen to save a backup of your stock ROM before switching to the Evervolv ROM? If so, could you send me the Zip?
Or, if anyone out there on the forum could help, that would be great.
I was hoping to get some benefit to a more recent version of Android, but all the ROM's I've tried thus far seem to have one glitch after another. I'd prefer to go back to a stock, or some slightly upgraded version of the SENSE IU. Any suggestions appreciated.
I downloaded this ROM as it looked like a good "SENSE-esque" ROM, and looks like most everything is working on this version.
http://themikmik.com/showthread.php?12344-ROM-5-09-12-New!!The-Express!!-Updated!!-Working4G!!-Full-Landscape-Sense-3-0-Aroma-Installer!!&p=203943#post203943
Thoughts?

I don't have a backup of my stock ROM as far as I know.
I really wanted something close to stock, so I think I ended up settling on [Rom]TN_Elousions3.2_OTA_5.07.651.6_Deoxed_Stock_Theme.zip which is a moderate mod of the last stock ROM.
I ended up going through the S-OFF process as well to make sure that I had the latest radios and such.
It's functional, but between the Sense changes and the fact that it's Gingerbread-based means that there are some things about the UI that just aren't as nice as Evervolv. The upshot is that the battery consumption is lower and the hardware features work or work better (4G, FFC, camcorder, FM radio, etc.).
I'm tempted to try one of the last official Cyanogen ROMs just to see if I like the UI better than Sense, but I'll probably just stick it out until I get a new phone.