My battery temperature rises to almost 45.c+ after a few minutes of HD gaming on my Stock HTC WFS Rooted, Is this normal or theres something wrong with my battery.
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My battery temperature rises to almost 45.c+ after a few minutes of HD gaming on my Stock HTC WFS Rooted, Is this normal or theres something wrong with my battery.
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the phone has to heat up especially when you play games that use a lot of cpu and gpu...
but idk is it normal to heat it to 45 and more... i think that 50 degrees is a MAX that may happen, and that reffers to battery heat? I mean its just going to shorten life of battery, extremely ... and about processor i think u dont have to worry... it can stand some heat ... i have read that temps went over 70,80 celsius on the phone, and they were still running fine. Of course its not recommended, as you can guess
I don't think that it will be a problem. I have my phone running that hot for four months already when charging, and when not plugged in it also easily reaches 40c. When I dial *#*#4636#*#* my battery health is still good. Also note that on the back of the battery it says that the max operating temperature is 60c.
koeniekoenie said:
I don't think that it will be a problem. I have my phone running that hot for four months already when charging, and when not plugged in it also easily reaches 40c. When I dial *#*#4636#*#* my battery health is still good. Also note that on the back of the battery it says that the max operating temperature is 60c.
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Never looked at the back of the battery that closely, that clears my doubts.
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What are your average temperatures on your Desire? On standby mode, heavy usage (movies, gaming), charging and so on. I'm a bit worried about mine. It usually idles at 28-30 degrees C and gets up to 38 on heavy usage, maybe 39.
I also wanted to calibrate my phone using this method, but I never get passed 4182mV, a few months ago I was able to get 4197. The phone also seems to be pretty hot, even when it does nothing.
The battery usage is ok, I don't have any apps that are using the CPU in the background.
And I used an undervolted kernel, running at 875mV at 245MHz.
playing ROBODEFENSE for 20 minutes or more gets my desire very heated.
so much so that it shuts off
is there an app or similar that can show me the temp of the phone?
You can view the temp of the battery which can give you an indication.
If your phones are overheating, send them to HTC and they should get repaired.
I just checked and my phone idles at like 25c and I played RoboDefence for a whole level at lvl 100 and got 35c. To be honest, it felt warm and not hot. I've had it hotter than that but never had a reboot issue.
Meaple said:
You can view the temp of the battery which can give you an indication.
If your phones are overheating, send them to HTC and they should get repaired.
I just checked and my phone idles at like 25c and I played RoboDefence for a whole level at lvl 100 and got 35c. To be honest, it felt warm and not hot. I've had it hotter than that but never had a reboot issue.
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I seem to be getting the same temps, but I still have the mV issue. I can never go above 4182mV and I can't properly calibrate the battery. The phone also dies at 11-12%, when I bought it it was dieing at 0%.
Sometimes, the phone is charging and it shows 87-88% for some minutes, and suddenly it jumps to 100%, I guess that would be the loss of 12% when my phone turns off. I wiped battery stats when I was at 100% and no luck. I am using latest snq's kernel for leedroid ROM.
Maybe a naff battery?
Yeah agreed.it can get hot at times but if it rebooted better sent it for a check
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Hi everyone.
I don't see anyone feeling bad about battery nowadays with new update. I dont see any improvement in mine :O
I need some informations from you, can you tell me voltage phone reaches when it turns off by itself? Its very strange when mine reaches around 40-50% voltage goes down very fast and it turns off around 3.2v...
Who's with good battery?
Tell me,
*phone time on battery
*display on time
*wifi time on
i feel like mine is not good i dont know the reason why.. my friend gets 7 hours of browsing(7hrs display on), and i get around 4... it cant last 5 hours with display on.
-- 30 % brightness, bravia off, sync off, auto rotation on --
I saw on internet some reviews 2 days of heavy use :O how?
I tried wiping batt. stats, and gonna try again after system creates batterystats.bin
i did it twice, but slight improvement...
regards
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I have voted 8-9 hours for casual use at low display brightness 20-30%. Auto brightness is allways activated and using it in a fairly light room might increase your display brightness without you noticing this. Could this be the reason you are experiencing such high battery drain with display on?
Heavy gaming:
3D games like order and chaos and dungeon defender that utilize the Andreno consumes up to 30% per hour, that leaves 3 hours of use. Battery history show an allmost 50/50 between display power usage and the game process power usage. Buildin speaker also consumes allot of power.
FPSE that to my knowledge do not use the GPU but utilizes the CPU 100% consumes around 20% per hour leaving 4-5hours gaming.
Light gaming and casual use.
My daughters using drawing programs, playing angry birds or other light weight kids games plus some webbrowsing and email reading consumes about 12-15% per hour leaving 8-9 hours of use with dispaly on.
If you add speech calls on 3G your times will decrease significantly, this is consuming 20-30% of battery per hour depending on signal strengt. This is my personal observations.
Bravia is allways activated and I thought this was only used when watching movies or looking at pictures in the gallery?
It is interesting to read the SE support app installed and the SE recommendations to improve battery live. They mention that if your display is at max brightness it will not make any noticeable difference if you have bluetooth, wifi, data, sync etc turned on as the screen is consuming sooo much power at max they also recommend to use earphones instead of speaker to improve battery consumption. The rest of the recommendations are well known as to turn everything not needed off. The recommendation I like the most is a daily reboot to improve system performance
I like your review.. I got the same result with 3d gaming... 3 hours, but i never had 8-9 hours even with light usage.. Not playing 3d games..
Max. I get is 5 hours but i dont know how, i fell asleep on entry screen on asphalt 6...
Btw. Did u payed order n chaos i cant find cracked version.
3 hours phone on
40 mins display on
1 hour wifi..
Now on 85 %
Regards
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I began to suspect it's from the battery it self, I reversed to the old firmware .145 the battery was the same, never completes a whole day, 19 hours maximum.
I think its battery too... I bought mine with world generic, and flashed uk generic, its same for me... Has anyone thought that somewhere in system is set battery capacity is example 900, i have read it on this forum in x8... So how to investigate it, my battery dies always ~4 hours display... It went once 2 days, and display time of course 4 hours.
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shtreber said:
I like your review.. I got the same result with 3d gaming... 3 hours, but i never had 8-9 hours even with light usage.. Not playing 3d games..
Max. I get is 5 hours but i dont know how, i fell asleep on entry screen on asphalt 6...
Btw. Did u payed order n chaos i cant find cracked version.
3 hours phone on
40 mins display on
1 hour wifi..
Now on 85 %
Regards
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Haha, a nice way of testing it, keeping it running while sleeping :-D 5-6 hours is probably more normal than 8-9 hours, that was when my daughters was using it with a kids drawing program at low light settings, it was not consuming much cpu at no sound was used.
I have bought order and chaos but had shortly installed a cracked version as there were some problems with android marked at the time. I paid for the game but it would not start the download, contacted their support and found a cracked version while waiting for them to fix it ;-)
36 min phone on
36 min display on
Wifi on browsing xda on dolphin
Display dimmed with SE widget
2G coverage
8% battery used
Display consumed 76%
Dolphin consumed 13%
Wifi consumed 5%
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Running with smartass cpu governor and noop io schedule and Doomkernel v10
I got some interesting stuff... I deleted mine bat. Widget, using battery calibrator i can see percentage, 4.2 v full, 3.75 v 46 %, i played 10 min game, percentage fell down, and now i got 35 %, same voltage... Btw. Stock everything.
And calibrated my battery today... I ll post in few days if i got some improvement, but i dont think so...
And 13 min 300 mhz, but display on all the time? Weird.
29 % 3.72 v... Browsing only
20% 3.708 v... Still browsing
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shtreber said:
I got some interesting stuff... I deleted mine bat. Widget, using battery calibrator i can see percentage, 4.2 v full, 3.75 v 46 %, i played 10 min game, percentage fell down, and now i got 35 %, same voltage... Btw. Stock everything.
And calibrated my battery today... I ll post in few days if i got some improvement, but i dont think so...
And 13 min 300 mhz, but display on all the time? Weird.
29 % 3.72 v... Browsing only
20% 3.708 v... Still browsing
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The batterys voltage will drop allot from 100% to 90% and the voltage decrease will slow down as you are getting closer to 0%. I would guess 3,65 is close to 0%.
The battery % is not calculated from the voltage level but from an internal register in the battery chip that decreases with a value calculated by the battery chip from the exact amount of power used. The battery chip can measure precisly how much power is running to and from the battery.
The android calibration can change this register for example when the battery is getting close to a pre configured safe voltage level, could be 3,65v. It would then reset the register to 0 and the same goes when charging the phone.
If the register show you can have max 5000 units and you are charging the battery and reaches 95% and 4500 units while the voltage show 4,2 which is full, it would then update the register to have 4500 as max level and start to decrese this as power is draining from the battery. If you have 10% left and 450 in the register with voltage at 3,65 it will presume this to be empty and the register would be changed to 0 and battery indicator to 0%. The next charge to 100% should end up at 4150 which would match the exact capacity available for the phone.
The battery will over time slowly degenerate and its capacity will slowly decrease which is one of the reasons the calibration is needed to allways have it show correct battery levels.
The battery is actually not empty at 3,65 but draining it even further will drop the voltage and make the phone crash.
I hope my above explanation makes senses. Had earlier updated and compiled an android kernel battery driver for the old xperia x1 phone. I presume the mechanism for the battery driver in Xperia Arc is the same.
hygge said:
The batterys voltage will drop allot from 100% to 90% and the voltage decrease will slow down as you are getting closer to 0%. I would guess 3,65 is close to 0%.
The battery % is not calculated from the voltage level but from an internal register in the battery chip that decreases with a value calculated by the battery chip from the exact amount of power used. The battery chip can measure precisly how much power is running to and from the battery.
The android calibration can change this register for example when the battery is getting close to a pre configured safe voltage level, could be 3,65v. It would then reset the register to 0 and the same goes when charging the phone.
If the register show you can have max 5000 units and you are charging the battery and reaches 95% and 4950 units while the voltage show 4,2 which is full, it would then update the register to have 4950 as max level and start to decrese this as power is draining from the battery. If you have 10% left and 100 in the register with voltage at 3,65 it will presume this to be empty and the register would be changed to 0 and battery indicator to 0%. The next charge to 100% should end up at 4850 which would match the exact capacity available for the phone.
The battery will over time slowly degenerate and its capacity will slowly decrease which is one of the reasons the calibration is needed to allways have it show correct battery levels.
The battery is actually not empty at 3,65 but draining it even further will drop the voltage and make the phone crash.
I hope my above explanation makes senses. Had earlier updated and compiled an android kernel battery driver for the old xperia x1 phone. I presume the mechanism for the battery driver in Xperia Arc is the same.
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more results,
3.65v at 15%
3.6 at 8%
and since it passed 8, it goes down to ~3.25v but mine doesnt crash. it nicely turns off. 5 hours 35 mins display(yay.. improvement.), wifi time i cant remember, but 9+ hours. 30% brightness,around 30 mins total gaming, something like angry birds. 30% brightness. and like 20 mins 3g internet.
shtreber said:
more results,
3.65v at 15%
3.6 at 8%
and since it passed 8, it goes down to ~3.25v but mine doesnt crash. it nicely turns off. 5 hours 35 mins display(yay.. improvement.), wifi time i cant remember, but 9+ hours. 30% brightness,around 30 mins total gaming, something like angry birds. 30% brightness. and like 20 mins 3g internet.
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Interesting, the old xperia x1 could not handle levels below 3,65 6i
My Battery Life is absolutely horrendous lately. Before after 8 hours moderate use, it would be about 50-60% remaining.
Now it's almost flat after 8 hours. No change in usage patterns.
I reverted to stock, cleaned the device of all apps and data, no change, it's still bad.
The only thing I noticed was that SetCPU says that 122Mhz frequency is unused. It uses all the others (including Deep Sleep).
Is this normal?
Does it sound like my battery is dying? (the phone is still within warranty... so should be covered)
I have also seen this. Anyone had any noticable difference with it?
When phone reaches 50% in battery level turn it off and pick out the battery for a few minutes. Put it back and connect the charger, now charge the phone turned off for about 5 hours or overnight. Start the phone as normal and check if the battery life time has improved.
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I noticed that too.
Though I use No-frills CPU to set the min to 122MHz and max to 1024 MHz. my battery life is sucky too
Try Betterbatterystats
If your phone is rooted i think it voids the warranty on your phone
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If your phone is rooted i think it voids the warranty on your phone
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Rooting doesn't void your warranty. Unlocking your bootloader does.
Swyped from my SE Xperia arc (LT15i) using Tapatalk 2
I have exactly the same issue. My battery doesn't last longer than 8-10 hours of normal use. I use setCPU as well with 122 mHz. It will try that solution that CarzyPeter suggested
Bram
Hello.got xperia m before 4-5 days.its with cm11 and i got an issue with battery.when i charge my phone close i can see that it is 100% charged.but when i open it it drops to 95% fast. Same thing happens if i charge it open. When i replug the charger it goes to 99% normaly but after it takes much time to go 100%. Is this normal?i also try calibrating battery removing battery.bin and also tried removing battery for 10min.no luck at anything
AggelosGR said:
Hello.got xperia m before 4-5 days.its with cm11 and i got an issue with battery.when i charge my phone close i can see that it is 100% charged.but when i open it it drops to 95% fast. Same thing happens if i charge it open. When i replug the charger it goes to 99% normaly but after it takes much time to go 100%. Is this normal?i also try calibrating battery removing battery.bin and also tried removing battery for 10min.no luck at anything
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It looks like it has some wear. Because you're probably out of warranty by flashing another ROM, may be it's a good idea go searching for another battery. If I'm not mistaken, there are some 1900 mAh batteries arround compatible with Xperia M (the default one being 1750 mAh).
But you can try to turn airplane mode on, then go to Settings > Performance > CPU and setting maximum CPU speed to 486000, as well as the CPU governor to powersave, then checking the option to restore these options every boot. Level brightness down to the minimum.
Now, let it charge to 100%, disconnecting the charger, after. See if it drops. If it still dropping, it's battery wear. Of course, the time it lasts depends on how much time you spent with screen on and what tasks are you performing, i.e.: if you're playing Fruit Ninja right after disconnecting the charger, with medium brightness, it's not imposible to drain 7% right at the first three to five minutes.
Well, may you post a screenshot of battery usage graph?
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It looks like it has some wear. Because you're probably out of warranty by flashing another ROM, may be it's a good idea go searching for another battery. If I'm not mistaken, there are some 1900 mAh batteries arround compatible with Xperia M (the default one being 1750 mAh).
But you can try to turn airplane mode on, then go to Settings > Performance > CPU and setting maximum CPU speed to 486000, as well as the CPU governor to powersave, then checking the option to restore these options every boot. Level brightness down to the minimum.
Now, let it charge to 100%, disconnecting the charger, after. See if it drops. If it still dropping, it's battery wear. Of course, the time it lasts depends on how much time you spent with screen on and what tasks are you performing, i.e.: if you're playing Fruit Ninja right after disconnecting the charger, with medium brightness, it's not imposible to drain 7% right at the first three to five minutes.
Well, may you post a screenshot of battery usage graph?
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Well i put it last night and it charged 100% and battery drops normaly. I thing that this is happening only when i charge it closed...
Charging it closed? Locked?
Well, it's strange because sleep should save battery.
Anyway, looks like your battery has some damage. It's a good idea to take someone's battery to test it out, or bringing it to some place where they replace batteries (I know, it's a horrible english formulation, but back here, in our yellow and green country it does make sense, since there's a lot of Asians and Paraguyans selling all that stuff right in the downtown streets, but you'll have to check out for a place that can test it for you).
You may well take it to Sony, but they'll charge you for everything that they replace. Still, it's the best place to ask for a test. Not so much, here in my city, because store workers are, in general, a bunch of semi-cultured people who knows nothing about handset techinal aspects, just waiting for the time to take the bus and go home. Well, just sayin'... Good luck!
Ok.battery seems to work fine.phone charges to 100% and it holds 5h and 45min of gaming with low brightness.i charged it full,removed charger and i go to sleep.when i woke up (after 6h50min) phone was still 100%.i guess that the phone wasnt charging full cause of the way calibration i did by removing battery.bin....
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Ok.battery seems to work fine.phone charges to 100% and it holds 5h and 45min of gaming with low brightness.i charged it full,removed charger and i go to sleep.when i woke up (after 6h50min) phone was still 100%.i guess that the phone wasnt charging full cause of the way calibration i did by removing battery.bin....
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It happens. This morning I used my phone for 40 minutes after disconnecting it from the charger. Minimum brightness, CPU throttled to powersave/540 Mhz max. settings and it still managed to get down to 94%. It turned out that the GPS were turned on, for some unknown reason. I turned it off and back on, and it went working correctly (i.e. working only when wheater update required it). Indeed, the screen itself does suck a great amount of power, and the screen kept on for nearly 90% of this 40 minutes. So I got to correct myself, also and apologize for my over-sugestion.
Cheers!
P. Pinheiro
So I got this phone 2 days ago and I love it except for the battery.Anyways,the battery temp while charging is 34c is this normal?(37c while writing this in chrome)And I noticed that battery drains pretty quickly while gaming(like clash of clans)and hot from the back-top.So is this normal?n
Yes, this is normal. Having the screen on while charging will make it even warmer. Be aware that the phone charges more slowly when the battery rises above roughly 90F/32C, so keeping the phone cool will help with charging speed. Mine will drop from the max of 1600mA with the stock charger, to about 300mA, as the temperature reaches the low-90's F.
Thanks for the reply!
Yeah I noticed that.When ive put the phone in an air conditioned room,battery tempreture decrased to 31.5c and the voltage increased to 4300 mV.But I did a research and found that li ion max voltage is 4.2v anything up is dangerous unless the battery got some sort of overvoltage protection.So should I be worried?
No. Mine charges to 4.4V. I'm comfortable that this is a safe value for the battery.
If LG had it dangerously overcharging every single battery, that would be incredibly irresponsible. I'm sure they picked a safe voltage.
Guys - what app/s are you using to measure. I use Ampere but is there any better?
Thanks.
Just go to the hidden menu by dialing *#*#4636#*#*
That doesn't show the charging Ma?