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Can please somebody explain to an idiot like me, how
can I remove Carrier IQ from my T-mobile T989 using stock everything, except for root and some frozen bloatware?
I looked around and couldn't find any results.
Thanks in advance for your help.
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I assume you have Titanium Backup?
If so, uninstall or freeze the "System Manager" app
This will not completely remove all traces due to the fact it is embedded in the Kernel.. you can flash a custom kernal but it's really not necessary. Once you've frozen or uninstalled "System Manager" Carrier IQ can no longer effectively function
You can also use a file explorer and remove: system/lib/libiq_service_tmobile_2.2.so
Doing both will pretty much clean your phone of Carrier IQ, it will be unable to run.
Thank you for your help.
I have frozen the Manager (will it break something else?) and I have removed the '' lib iq.... ''.
The app Carrier IQ Detector stil tells me that I have it.
But I believe you that will be ineffectual now.
Thank you for your help.
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No, it will not break anything else. And yes, as I said it is embedded in the kernel so voodoo or other detectors will still show it present, but inactive.
And no problem, glad to help. Searching is a great way to find answers.. But I know sometimes it's easier to ask lol
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Please remember that a single update from the carrier will put it back into active and working status. I hope you didn't spend any money on that detector.
Sorry for the late reply.
Thank you for letting me know about the update
and I presume you are taking about ICS update and
not a minor one.
No I didn't pay anything for the detector, it is free
on the Play Store.
Thanks for your help.
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Error trying to delete the file
ingenious247 said:
I assume you have Titanium Backup?
If so, uninstall or freeze the "System Manager" app
This will not completely remove all traces due to the fact it is embedded in the Kernel.. you can flash a custom kernal but it's really not necessary. Once you've frozen or uninstalled "System Manager" Carrier IQ can no longer effectively function
You can also use a file explorer and remove: system/lib/libiq_service_tmobile_2.2.so
Doing both will pretty much clean your phone of Carrier IQ, it will be unable to run.
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OK I can't delete system/lib/libiq_service_tmobile_2.2.so and I've tried it using a file explorer (with ROOT permission) and terminal using SU and I get the following message "rm failed for libiq_service_tmobile_2.2.so, Read-only file system"
Also I can't find System Manager. I do have an application I have frozen in Titanium called "System Manager Application 1.1" with a little pink gear icon. However apps like premiatul described still show carrier IQ listed but state "however it seems inactive". I'm concerned cause I'm still getting detection scores of 290 and 100 in the logcat information. Mind you I used to have a Nexus one and those numbers were all zero.
So the question is even though I can't delete the file like premiatul, and I have a different application listed frozen; am I still preventing that IQ garbage using my battery up?
You have to mount the folder read/write to delete the file, use root explorer. The option will be in the upper left corner when browsing system folder for the file
You will still show a score on voodoo but once you delete that file it will lower the score slightly. If you want you can uninstall system manager (and yes you froze the correct one) and it will lower the score significantly but you'll get continuous force closes until you reboot. No need IMO once frozen it cannot function regardless of how high your score is
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I highly doubt that removing of CarrierIQ is possible without gaining root because all files related to it are located in the system space which is read_only and protected from anyone but a root user.
You cannot run RootExplorer in system space unless it is run by a root.
In my experience cleaning IQ-tmobile-release-...apk and several associated files belonging to the carrierIQ removed running service and made it undetectable by the above mentioned app.
Adapt0r said:
I highly doubt that removing of CarrierIQ is possible without gaining root because all files related to it are located in the system space which is read_only and protected from anyone but a root user.
You cannot run RootExplorer in system space unless it is run by a root.
In my experience cleaning IQ-tmobile-release-...apk and several associated files belonging to the carrierIQ removed running service and made it undetectable by the above mentioned app.
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Did you skip reading the entire thread?
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premiatul said:
Sorry for the late reply.
Thank you for letting me know about the update
and I presume you are taking about ICS update and
not a minor one.
No I didn't pay anything for the detector, it is free
on the Play Store.
Thanks for your help.
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Any carrier branded software update, "major" or not has the potential to reinstall CIQ on your device.
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I froze System Manager and now I get the "Sorry!" window that sys.manager has crashed. When I close the window it comes right back in a few seconds. Now I can't do anything and I'm scared to reboot.
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I froze System Manager and now I get the "Sorry!" window that sys.manager has crashed. When I close the window it comes right back in a few seconds. Now I can't do anything and I'm scared to reboot.
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normal.reboot
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Use a close to stock ROM with ciq remoVed
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So I've seen various threads on people who have successfully removed a ton of bloatware from their phone thus increasing performance but not harming anything.
Does anyone have a list of safe items to uninstall/disable from startup that will increase performance while not affecting the phones stability/important functions?
Thanks.
Anyone have a list? Or a link to one.
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Anyone have a list? Or a link to one.
sent from space
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There was a list in one of the threads. You can just google "safe list of apps to remove galaxy s3". Another way though, it to look at the tmobile debloated uvalem rom thread. It has a screenshot with a fully debloated tmobile S3, which only has like 5 apps left. That will give you a solid starting point.
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There was a list in one of the threads. You can just google "safe list of apps to remove galaxy s3". Another way though, it to look at the tmobile debloated uvalem rom thread. It has a screenshot with a fully debloated tmobile S3, which only has like 5 apps left. That will give you a solid starting point.
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Yea I tried searching here, but all that came up was this thread. Ill try Google. Thanks
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I believe the safe app list for removal is a Google doc listed under a specific carrier. I think it was sprint but not too sure.
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This isn't specific to T-mo but it has most of the stuff you can remove. You can remove everything from t-mo except for the t-mo tether app with Titanium backup.
http://goo.gl/yWDoI
if your on stock and not rooted you can disable apps you don't use. just go to application manager, all and disable the app..
This is for a rooted T-mobile:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1726842
Not sure if that helps.
thanks for the info
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Has anyone removed all three allshare apps and the samsung account back up, cloud data, and cloud synca, apps safely?
I know this isn't really a list of apps to uninstall, but here is screen shots of all the apps I have installed right now AFTER I got done removing all the ones I didn't want. none of the apps or hidden or disabled. So I guess you can compare and decide for your self what apps to remove.
I hope this helps at least a little sense the link for this thread pops up a lot when searching for this.
Carrier IQ doesn't actually turn off when you disable it (the setting is hidden under System Settings -> Back up and reset.) If you check ps, battery stats, etc you will see it is still running to gather private data and send it off.
Fortunately, it is easier to disable on SGSIII than other devices. No framework mods needed!
To completely disable it (and remove the option from settings) you just need to remove the apps from /system/app. (Freezing is not enough, as it will still run in the background.)
Just remove these 3 files from /system/app and reboot to wipe it out completely:
IQ-tmobile-release-unsigned.signed_TMO.apk
IQToggle.signed_TMO.apk
IQ_OOB_TMO.apk
(If you are feeling paranoid like me, you can just move them to a different directory - ie /system/app-bak. So long as they are gone from /system/app, Android won't run them.)
If you watch logcat on the first boot, you will see the permissions disappear:
W/PackageManager( 535): Removing dangling permission: com.carrieriq.tmobile.permission.IPC from package com.carrieriq.tmobile
And when you launch the backup page:
D/PrivacySettings( 967): Package not found : IQToggle
(The error shows on logcat, but the backup prefs work fine without it.)
Disconn3ct said:
Carrier IQ doesn't actually turn off when you disable it (the setting is hidden under System Settings -> Back up and reset.) If you check ps, battery stats, etc you will see it is still running to gather private data and send it off.
Fortunately, it is easier to disable on SGSIII than other devices. No framework mods needed!
To completely disable it (and remove the option from settings) you just need to remove the apps from /system/app. (Freezing is not enough, as it will still run in the background.)
Just remove these 3 files from /system/app and reboot to wipe it out completely:
IQ-tmobile-release-unsigned.signed_TMO.apk
IQToggle.signed_TMO.apk
IQ_OOB_TMO.apk
(If you are feeling paranoid like me, you can just move them to a different directory - ie /system/app-bak. So long as they are gone from /system/app, Android won't run them.)
If you watch logcat on the first boot, you will see the permissions disappear:
W/PackageManager( 535): Removing dangling permission: com.carrieriq.tmobile.permission.IPC from package com.carrieriq.tmobile
And when you launch the backup page:
D/PrivacySettings( 967): Package not found : IQToggle
(The error shows on logcat, but the backup prefs work fine without it.)
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I think most of us who did a custom Rom already removed it
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uoY_redruM said:
I think most of us who did a custom Rom already removed it
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And everyone else didn't.. so..
Just use the Logging Test App, but only remove ciq crap. If you remove the loggers it'll boot loop your phone.
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anthonykash said:
Just use the Logging Test App, but only remove ciq crap. If you remove the loggers it'll boot loop your phone.
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I'd hesitate to remove the library (the only thing it detects after you pull the apps out) because something else might depend on it. If you have a working recovery its easy enough to test though - move it out of the way, reboot. If it bootloops, boot recovery and put it back. (And let me know so I can update the first post..)
I suggest using TB to uninstall the CIQ and other bloatware because it also removes the entry in /data/data. Otherwise, you have to do it manually.
overground said:
I suggest using TB to uninstall the CIQ and other bloatware because it also removes the entry in /data/data. Otherwise, you have to do it manually.
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Tried that and it didn't work for me. YMMV, but that is why I started looking into pulling it out of the framework. (Fortunately they didn't build it in as deeply on this one as they used to, so its pretty simple to remove.)
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anthonykash said:
Just use the Logging Test App, but only remove ciq crap. If you remove the loggers it'll boot loop your phone.
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Agreed, I had the same issue.
Disconn3ct said:
Tried that and it didn't work for me. YMMV, but that is why I started looking into pulling it out of the framework. (Fortunately they didn't build it in as deeply on this one as they used to, so its pretty simple to remove.)
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Odd, worked just fine for me.
Anything in 'ps' related to IQ? After removing the apps through Titanium and rebooting the service was still running (and it even showed in battery stats - https://twitter.com/disconn3ct/status/223401642077327361 has a screenshot)
That is why I started looking at it to begin with.
Thanks
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This worked on my SGH-T999 T-Mobile Galaxy S III.
XDA Rocks!!!
On my tmo GS3 I get errors about cross-device links???
I just used adb shell to get in, then su, then tried moving the files.
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Never mind. I just did it with root explorer instead.
MrGibbage said:
On my tmo GS3 I get errors about cross-device links???
I just used adb shell to get in, then su, then tried moving the files.
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Never mind. I just did it with root explorer instead.
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The default 'mv' just calls the move syscall, which creates a link and removes the original. (That fails across different filesystems since you can't create hardlinks between them.)
'busybox mv' will do it th at way if it is the same filesystem, but if not it will do a full copy-and-remove. (Or just use a file manager, as you did..)
On my GS2, just freezing it in Titanium was enough. It never actively ran after that. The CIQ stuff embedded in the kernel was still present, but there was no activity or battery usage. Weird that it's still active after freezing it. I'll have to look into this and see what activity is actually going on, because I don't want to root this phone or delete anything just yet. Right now the standard ICS "disable" is working just fine on several things, and so I thought on CIQ as well.
What does this IQ do anyway? any reason why we wouldnt or would want to remove?
allendj81 said:
What does this IQ do anyway? any reason why we wouldnt or would want to remove?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_IQ
Especially the "Rootkit discovery and media attention" section.
There's plenty of info here on XDA also since it was one of our members who discovered it's prevalance.
overground said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_IQ
Especially the "Rootkit discovery and media attention" section.
There's plenty of info here on XDA also since it was one of our members who discovered it's prevalance.
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What does this mean?
Many have already been seeking suit against CarrierIQ, including:
Commonwealth of Massachusetts (criminal and civil)
United States Department of Justice (criminal)
Federal Trade Commission (civil)
Sprint Nextel (civil)
T-Mobile (civil)
JMLECS Umbrella Companies[36] (criminal and civil)
Hagens Berman, California, class action (unknown)[37]
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T-Moble was forced to install CarrierIQ? Why are they suing?
It tracks your location, activity, browsing, sms/mms traffic, email etc etc etc without telling you and sends it to the carrier (and others.) Some of that data has good uses. (For example, the carrier can say "there are a lot of dropped calls near these towers, lets get more information from those devices - exact locations, etc - and see if we can fix it.") The majority of it is purely for marketing, advertising and so forth.
In exchange, you get lower battery life and no privacy. (Oh, and as an added bonus, it doesn't actually turn off when you disable it in the settings..)
HG! said:
What does this mean?
T-Moble was forced to install CarrierIQ? Why are they suing?
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They're probably suing because they're claiming that they were told it didn't record keystrokes
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Does anyone know of any manual methods to remove CarrierIQ? The S4 for Tmobile comes with CarrierIQ installed.
xxhorseriderxxx said:
Does anyone know of any manual methods to remove CarrierIQ? The S4 for Tmobile comes with CarrierIQ installed.
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freeze the following applications please:
"system manager toggle"
"system manager application"
"system manager notification"
A real noCIQ is coming. It's more than just those APKs.
cool looking forward it it!!
Carrier IQ is not found on the Samsung S4, so no need to worry about it.
dhonzik said:
Carrier IQ is not found on the Samsung S4, so no need to worry about it.
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And what method did you use to find it, sir?
i thought they stopped putting that on most phones after all the drama about it
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i thought they stopped putting that on most phones after all the drama about it
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They did, but it had yet to stay dead. Time to cause more noise. Feel free to start blasting them in social media outlets. I will be soon.
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k0nane said:
A real noCIQ is coming. It's more than just those APKs.
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lemme know here where you'll be posting it... I'm super interested to get rid of CIQ, especially since it's a waste of battery life. I generally customize my ROMs with almost nothing left as far as background processes are concerned. My i9100 gets a 1-2 day battery life because of it, lol.
Not sure if this is the correct way but,
I rooted and installed root uninstaller..
Browsed tab where it says all programs.. looked through and found three programs starting with iQ...
I un installed all three.
when I did root checker after it said carrier iq was not detected on my device.
(previous to removal it said it WAS present on my device.
Hope this helps
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Does anyone know of any manual methods to remove CarrierIQ? The S4 for Tmobile comes with CarrierIQ installed.
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I used the method from the first post in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1768205 on my T-Mobile S4 and it worked as I checked it with BitDefender Carrier IQ Check. Hope this helps.
bgmikejr said:
I used the method from the first post in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1768205 on my T-Mobile S4 and it worked as I checked it with BitDefender Carrier IQ Check. Hope this helps.
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The issue with simply removing APKs is that the calls are still being sent by the framework. That does not satisfy me. I want it entirely gone.
k0nane said:
The issue with simply removing APKs is that the calls are still being sent by the framework. That does not satisfy me. I want it entirely gone.
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Exactly.
The Root said:
And what method did you use to find it, sir?
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I tried a number of apps on google play store that detect CarrierIQ and none detected CarrierIQ. Only one (Voodoo Carrier IQ Detector) said there maybe some elements of CarrierIQ but it was inactive. I believe that program produce a false positive since looking at comments it said everything has element of CarrierIQ. The programs I used are Carrier IQ Detector, Voodoo Carrier IQ Detector, Anti Carrier IQ, Bitdefender Carrier IQ Finder, TrustGo Carrier IQ Detector, Carrier IQ Scanner, and Carrier IQ Red Pill.
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I tried a number of apps on google play store that detect CarrierIQ and none detected CarrierIQ. Only one (Voodoo Carrier IQ Detector) said there maybe some elements of CarrierIQ but it was inactive. I believe that program produce a false positive since looking at comments it said everything has element of CarrierIQ. The programs I used are Carrier IQ Detector, Voodoo Carrier IQ Detector, Anti Carrier IQ, Bitdefender Carrier IQ Finder, TrustGo Carrier IQ Detector, Carrier IQ Scanner, and Carrier IQ Red Pill.
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Hey k0nane, best to give up. This guy says it doesn't exist in our phone. He used advanced apps.
Actually your false positive is the only app that caught it. Probably because supercurio worked with k0.
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Is there a method to remove or at least temporarily disable CIQ if not rooted? I dont want to root this device.
mettleh3d said:
Is there a method to remove or at least temporarily disable CIQ if not rooted? I dont want to root this device.
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You're given the option to turn it off, and that's the best you've got, but I don't trust it.
Glad the same method still works. I haven't gotten around to trying it yet, but I was going to suggest it..
Will unchecking it from Droid Wall do the trick temporarily?
Rooted and uninstalled these 3 in Titanium Backup:
"system manager toggle"
"system manager application"
"system manager notification"
Then I went to the /System/CSC/ folder in Root explorer and edited both the Feature.xml and Other.xml files
Using Root explorer you long press the on the filename until a menu comes up. Choose to open with Text editor.
The text is at the bottom.
<!-- CIQ -->
<CSCFeature_CIQ_BroadcastState>true</CSCFeature_CIQ_BroadcastState>
Change true to false in this section of BOTH of these files and save and reboot.
The old files before editing will be saved with a .bak extension.
Worked great for me.
Any evidence for Carrier IQ on Lollipop 5.01?
On the T-Mobile one definitely
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On the T-Mobile one definitely
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Located where - I looked in the usual places (System>Private App) and Libraries - could not find it. Do you know where the files are stored?
docfreed said:
Located where - I looked in the usual places (System>Private App) and Libraries - could not find it. Do you know where the files are stored?
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I couldn't find it either and using CarrierIQ Scanner and Bitdefender Carrier IQ Finder both stated "Carrier IQ not found".
However, Carrier IQ Red Pill comes back with "There is a Very Strong evidence of CarrierIQ being installed on this device." It listed 3 Active Processes - iqd, iqmsd, and iqbridged - with iqd as a "positive" test.
Haven't tried messing with deleting it yet, but it does seem Tmobile is trying to bury it a little deeper with Lollipop.
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I couldn't find it either and using CarrierIQ Scanner and Bitdefender Carrier IQ Finder both stated "Carrier IQ not found".
However, Carrier IQ Red Pill comes back with "There is a Very Strong evidence of CarrierIQ being installed on this device." It listed 3 Active Processes - iqd, iqmsd, and iqbridged - with iqd as a "positive" test.
Haven't tried messing with deleting it yet, but it does seem Tmobile is trying to bury it a little deeper with Lollipop.
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I had the identical thing - Bitdefender said no and Red Pill said yes. I looked in the usual places and found nothing. IMHO, Red Pill wants to sell stuff so they try to scare you.
Unfortunately the google morons removed Voodoo Carrier IQ from the playstore - that one always gave the correct answer.
Oh well the hunt continues
I found the Carrier IQ stuff with 3C toolbox. Stopped the processes and renamed the 2 processes that were installed.
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I found the Carrier IQ stuff with 3C toolbox. Stopped the processes and renamed the 2 processes that were installed.
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Which processes were those?
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I used 3C toolbox and unchecked (disabled) everything in Android System with carrier IQ..probably about 6 or 7. It also showed that in system/app LTDDM.apk was Carrier IQ. Inside that is folder /arm which contains LTDDM.odex. I renamed both with .bak.
The only thing I've found so far is the LTDDM folder in system/app; which I removed completely
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I used 3C toolbox and unchecked (disabled) everything in Android System with carrier IQ..probably about 6 or 7. It also showed that in system/app LTDDM.apk was Carrier IQ. Inside that is folder /arm which contains LTDDM.odex. I renamed both with .bak.
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I never used this 3C toolbox app but looks really good. Can you tell me where I can find what to disable or how to use this app to find the carrier IQ crap? Thanks.
Influxvisions said:
I never used this 3C toolbox app but looks really good. Can you tell me where I can find what to disable or how to use this app to find the carrier IQ crap? Thanks.
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I had googled and found this Reddit thread the most useful. I followed the instructions on the first post...but read the whole thing first to get the gist of it.
http://www.reddit.com/r/LGG3/comments/2bkl60/remove_carrier_iq_off_of_lg_g3_all_models/
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I had googled and found this Reddit thread the most useful. I followed the instructions on the first post...but read the whole thing first to get the gist of it.
http://www.reddit.com/r/LGG3/comments/2bkl60/remove_carrier_iq_off_of_lg_g3_all_models/
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Got it done, thanks alot, that's a great app by the way [emoji106]
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