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[Q] MIME types and Iso storage

Hi,
I remember from owning an IPhone having to synchronise my ewallet (a password manager) files over the air from the desktop whilst the app was running on the phone. (I'll admit it was a minor annoyance).
Having moved to android and using a combination of dropbox and keepass, I don't really think about anymore - I just open dropbox and click the file and keepass opens up.
But, what about WP7? I realise that apps are only permitted to use their own storage. If I were to build a say, a keepass app for WP7, would I be back to building some desktop client software that allow syncing over the air whilst the app was running (like IPhone/ewallet), or hooking into any number of online sync services like Dropbox, Box.net, Pogoplug, etc, just to get the file some place the app can reach it.
I'm having trouble thinking of any other option given the lack of any common storage.
Thanks

If you did develop Keepass for WP7, you'd have your first customer here!
I'm actually tempted to try and port it myself, and I've come to the same conclusion as you regarding storage. The local KDB file would need to held in private storage and synchronised to an off-device copy, be that a desktop app or something like drop box.

A keepass app is one of the things I was considering. Not so sure about it now.
I'll have a look round for an elegant solution.

Well, isn't Skydrive the same as Dropbox? As I understood WP7 uses Skydrive to store your files 'in the cloud'; so why not put your Keepass file there?

Seven_PRX said:
Well, isn't Skydrive the same as Dropbox? As I understood WP7 uses Skydrive to store your files 'in the cloud'; so why not put your Keepass file there?
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I'd not considered skydrive/mesh. I'll 'ave a look.
Thanks for the heads-up.

I'm thinking of writing a desktop synching app myself. That way any WP7 app could connect to it to import files from a PC.
I've thought about using skydrive myself, but it doesn't seem to offer a way to download the file directly.

Send to WP7 now has a desktop companion app

The desktop counterpart integrates with explorer and allows you to right click on any file ex docs and pictures and send it to your windows phone! I am not sure how secure the cloud storage is at the moment but this is some nice innovation for a free app.
Read more here: http://wpcentral.com/send-wp7-hits-back-desktop-app
You can compose texts, emails and notes on the desktop and send it to the phone as well. The application utilizes windows 7 jumplists and works almost instantaneously.
I'm impressed.
Cloud is the future. Resistance is futile.

Well, well, well...I guess if Microsoft wasn't going to step in and make SkyDrive play nice on WP7 (access through browser doesn't count if you cannot sync), then someone had to. I like where Send To WP7 is going. It is quite impressive indeed.
It's just a shame that Microsoft, who probably has more data centres than 98% of all corporations in the world, and is in the best position to promote cloud services ( like Windows Live ) is still lagging behind.

I'm the author of Send to WP7, if you have any other suggestions for ways you can send stuff to your phone, do let me know. I'm open to pretty much anything that's technically possibly without costing me an arm and a leg in infrastructure.
The main complaint in the current implementation is that it uploads to a public hosting site. Live Mesh and SkyDrive don't have suitable APIs for doing this, as I would very much like to tie everything into Windows Live. In order to be useful, the files need to be accessible via an HTTP URL, without requiring a cookie or authentication (HTTP auth may be acceptable, but it needs to be opened in the browser to have access to docs and PDFs.
Also do note that this is a preview quality build, I just figured some people may already want to start using it.

If only you could make a "Send From WP7" app...

The ability to send to other Windows Phones would be nice.

kapanak said:
If only you could make a "Send From WP7" app...
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No APIs to let me do this, unfortunately.
karelj said:
The ability to send to other Windows Phones would be nice.
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I'm not so sure this is practical, you may as well just email a link, right? if you're talking about from the browser, using the bookmarklet for alternate phones is supported in all desktop browsers.

davux, i'm not sure if it's possible as you don't have socket support, but a possible way to get skydrive access to work is to pass windows phone through fiddler and work out what it does when it syncs a onenote note to skydrive. i'm pretty sure this would be socket base meaning you'd be stuck, but if it isn't, you may just have the information required to directly upload to skydrive, with proper credentials and all.
it's just an idea, but this is what i'd try as a developer (yes i am one, but no where near experienced enough at this stage).

The Gate Keeper said:
davux, i'm not sure if it's possible as you don't have socket support, but a possible way to get skydrive access to work is to pass windows phone through fiddler and work out what it does when it syncs a onenote note to skydrive. i'm pretty sure this would be socket base meaning you'd be stuck, but if it isn't, you may just have the information required to directly upload to skydrive, with proper credentials and all.
it's just an idea, but this is what i'd try as a developer (yes i am one, but no where near experienced enough at this stage).
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I can actually access SkyDrive via WebDAV already, which is an HTTP protocol. I suspect OneNote sync does something similar, but I haven't checked it out. The primary issue with this approach is that it won't be all that useful. Images and text would transfer well like this, but if you wanted to send a PDF, or Office doc, there would be no way to open it. The only way to open these types of docs is through the browser. I figured a really important use-case is documents, so I decided to take another approach.
BTW - the current build of the desktop app now supports uploading to localhostr.com, serving up files via a local HTTP server, and using your Dropbox account.

davux said:
I can actually access SkyDrive via WebDAV already, which is an HTTP protocol. I suspect OneNote sync does something similar, but I haven't checked it out. The primary issue with this approach is that it won't be all that useful. Images and text would transfer well like this, but if you wanted to send a PDF, or Office doc, there would be no way to open it. The only way to open these types of docs is through the browser. I figured a really important use-case is documents, so I decided to take another approach.
BTW - the current build of the desktop app now supports uploading to localhostr.com, serving up files via a local HTTP server, and using your Dropbox account.
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Thank you for directly conversing with us Dave. I agree getting documents to the phone is the ideal usage of this application. Keep up the good work!

sayonical said:
The desktop counterpart integrates with explorer and allows you to right click on any file ex docs and pictures and send it to your windows phone! I am not sure how secure the cloud storage is at the moment but this is some nice innovation for a free app.
Read more here: http://wpcentral.com/send-wp7-hits-back-desktop-app
You can compose texts, emails and notes on the desktop and send it to the phone as well. The application utilizes windows 7 jumplists and works almost instantaneously.
I'm impressed.
Cloud is the future. Resistance is futile.
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just set it up. The push notifications are instant!!!
davux said:
I'm the author of Send to WP7, if you have any other suggestions for ways you can send stuff to your phone, do let me know. I'm open to pretty much anything that's technically possibly without costing me an arm and a leg in infrastructure.
The main complaint in the current implementation is that it uploads to a public hosting site. Live Mesh and SkyDrive don't have suitable APIs for doing this, as I would very much like to tie everything into Windows Live. In order to be useful, the files need to be accessible via an HTTP URL, without requiring a cookie or authentication (HTTP auth may be acceptable, but it needs to be opened in the browser to have access to docs and PDFs.
Also do note that this is a preview quality build, I just figured some people may already want to start using it.
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Interesting stuff indeed. I for one, appreciate the work you are doing.

Wait a minute, you can use the Desktop app and upload to phone using your own local network? That is significantly easier to trust than a free cloud service.

kapanak said:
Wait a minute, you can use the Desktop app and upload to phone using your own local network? That is significantly easier to trust than a free cloud service.
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Yes. Unfortunately I can't make it an SSL connection, I'm not willing to pay for a cert. I will see if a test-signed certificate will work, but that is not actually as secure.

davux said:
Yes. Unfortunately I can't make it an SSL connection, I'm not willing to pay for a cert. I will see if a test-signed certificate will work, but that is not actually as secure.
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I've been trying out the desktop app with the local Wi-Fi method, and this seems to me the best way to get stuff to the phone. It's very quick too.
The dropbox integration isworking, and quite well. I'm wondering is there a way in future to upload to a private dropbox share?
Even though it's only an early preview, the dekstop app is great. I like the integration with Windows 7; I have it pinned to my taskbar. Might be useful to have a "Start with Windows" option in there. I'm sure you're aware of some of the bugs like the lack of proper icons in the jumplist Tasks and the filenaming issue that causes PDFs to be unreadable from WP7. To be expected with a preview.
From a UI point of view, I think the "Set Transfer Destination" option should not be in the jumplist and should be in the main config window instead. It's not a menu item you would need ever access to again after you've set your dropbox settings.
The WP7 app itself is also coming along great. I'm wondering if you will split the file list into categories, eg Notes, Links, Images, Files etc. Or failing that, have just "New" and "All" categories? Perhaps, for things like notes, you can Archive them into an Archive category... just an idea. Oh, and when a file is sent via the desktop app at the moment, for example a photo, instead of displaying just as "File", perhaps it could display as "File - {name}"?
Great stuff, getting great use out of this app so far, and its usefulness will explode when copy and paste arrives to WP7 devices. Thanks!

A big thanks to Dave for this excellent tool, it is also nice to see a thread wherevpeoplevare pushing the boundaries of what can be done with wp7 rather than just slanting it off.

wheresmybeaver said:
The dropbox integration isworking, and quite well. I'm wondering is there a way in future to upload to a private dropbox share?
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Not likely, as I've been saying, the phone needs to be able to access a share via the web browser. As far as I know, Dropbox private folders won't do this. That's why I've included an option to mutate the name a bit, so someone can't just guess filenames in your public folder.
The WP7 app itself is also coming along great. I'm wondering if you will split the file list into categories, eg Notes, Links, Images, Files etc. Or failing that, have just "New" and "All" categories? Perhaps, for things like notes, you can Archive them into an Archive category... just an idea. Oh, and when a file is sent via the desktop app at the moment, for example a photo, instead of displaying just as "File", perhaps it could display as "File - {name}"?
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Note that the phone app has absolutely no support for the desktop app at this time, I will bring support for it in an update. Views are likely, I haven't decided what to do yet. I wouldn't expect that update for a couple of weeks though.
adesonic said:
A big thanks to Dave for this excellent tool, it is also nice to see a thread wherevpeoplevare pushing the boundaries of what can be done with wp7 rather than just slanting it off.
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Thanks.

Send to WP7 Desktop
Dave, thanks for this app. It works well so far & I'm sure I'll get a lot of use out of this. One problem though I'm not getting notifications & when I open the app on the phone I get a push notification error. 'Failed to open channel'. Great work mate. Keep it up. Will send a donation when I get a chance.

davux said:
I'm the author of Send to WP7, if you have any other suggestions for ways you can send stuff to your phone, do let me know. I'm open to pretty much anything that's technically possibly without costing me an arm and a leg in infrastructure.
The main complaint in the current implementation is that it uploads to a public hosting site. Live Mesh and SkyDrive don't have suitable APIs for doing this, as I would very much like to tie everything into Windows Live. In order to be useful, the files need to be accessible via an HTTP URL, without requiring a cookie or authentication (HTTP auth may be acceptable, but it needs to be opened in the browser to have access to docs and PDFs.
Also do note that this is a preview quality build, I just figured some people may already want to start using it.
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I can not download it in Germany

weepatc said:
Dave, thanks for this app. It works well so far & I'm sure I'll get a lot of use out of this. One problem though I'm not getting notifications & when I open the app on the phone I get a push notification error. 'Failed to open channel'. Great work mate. Keep it up. Will send a donation when I get a chance.
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I actually have this same problem on my device. I opened the same-named notification channel on a dev build, then I uninstalled that build while it had the channel open - now neither the marketplace build nor new dev builds will open the channel.
I don't know how you got into this situation, but my point is that I don't really know what I can do to help--I'm under the assumption that all I can do to fix my device is to do a master reset (so I'm waiting for the NoDo update). I'm hoping that this bug is fixed in the next update, but I don't know if it's even officially reported.
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I can not download it in Germany
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I've selected all possible countries, which I think includes Germany. I don't think there is anything else I can do for you--maybe I could post a link to the XAP and you could sideload it? My only issue with this is that I'll then have to maintain a secondary distribution channel, and will need to build some kind of updater.

you should be able to post a zune link and it should allow him to access it that way. no need to sideload.

The Zune:// link has always been on my product page.
http://www.daveamenta.com/products/chrome-to-wp7/

Best cloud storage for viewing files online?

I'm looking for a cloud storage app for my phone, I need to be able to get access to pics and other media files?

jonas000 said:
I'm looking for a cloud storage app for my phone, I need to be able to get access to pics and other media files?
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Erm. Dropbox?
There are a host of threads on this bud.
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if security is a must take a look at wuala, not as user friendly as dropbox but it is secure.

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For non-personal data (video,photo) -> Dropbox/Boxee/Skydrive depending on your need.
For personal data (personal documents) -> Wuala (Secured, none except you can access your files, not even Wuala. Files get encrypted before sending to server).

H-Cim said:
For non-personal data (video,photo) -> Dropbox/Boxee/Skydrive depending on your need.
For personal data (personal documents) -> Wuala (Secured, none except you can access your files, not even Wuala. Files get encrypted before sending to server).
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Let's face it. Depending what you are tyring to secure, nothing is unbreakable. Whoever develops the encryption, generally has a back door. Be sure NSA, has a way.So nothing is safe. You have to develop other ways to be secure.
This is from Wuala's "About us"
"Nobody - not even we as storage provider - can access your data without your authorization. "
Your authorization is the key word here.
Then read in fine detail in the EULA what you Agreed To, when you accepted the use of their software.

+1 for Wuala, even hosted my ROM there, but I'll also be using Dropbox a bit more now thanks to HTC
Bottom line, they're both very good in my experience.

In my opinion Dropbox gives a really good service with an awesome integration on our Android phones. If you've got a data plan there are more possibilities, for example you can share a photo/video/data with your friends in a public folder so your friends can check out this folder whenever they want.
Definitely, Dropbox is gorgeous

Dropbox for me is better than sugarsync or box.net, the weak point only give 2.5 GB

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Let's face it. Depending what you are tyring to secure, nothing is unbreakable. Whoever develops the encryption, generally has a back door. Be sure NSA, has a way.So nothing is safe. You have to develop other ways to be secure.
This is from Wuala's "About us"
"Nobody - not even we as storage provider - can access your data without your authorization. "
Your authorization is the key word here.
Then read in fine detail in the EULA what you Agreed To, when you accepted the use of their software.
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I'm not saying it unbreakable, just less breakable then Dropbox. Which is important if there are some personal documents in it.

H-Cim said:
I'm not saying it unbreakable, just less breakable then Dropbox. Which is important if there are some personal documents in it.
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But what kind of documents are we talking about here? A shopping list? A degree certificate? A CV? People really fuss about personal security nowadays. I believe dropbox when they say that they're not giving out information without a court order and even then inform the user first. Why? Because if there was a single substantial case that they provided information with less than that, they'd soon be out of business. Hello anonymous-and-whatever-else-backed ****storm.
Let's face it, 99.98% of us aren't important enough to be spied upon in a cautiously planned and we'll executed manner. And even then we should be rather worried about our post, calls and home.
A social security number? Credit card pin? Dropbox + Keepass ftw.
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baum01 said:
But what kind of documents are we talking about here? A shopping list? A degree certificate? A CV? People really fuss about personal security nowadays. I believe dropbox when they say that they're not giving out information without a court order and even then inform the user first. Why? Because if there was a single substantial case that they provided information with less than that, they'd soon be out of business. Hello anonymous-and-whatever-else-backed ****storm.
Let's face it, 99.98% of us aren't important enough to be spied upon in a cautiously planned and we'll executed manner. And even then we should be rather worried about our post, calls and home.
A social security number? Credit card pin? Dropbox + Keepass ftw.
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Nah It's not because I'm paranoid, I just prefer my documents like college stuff, bank account stuff (not the login info obviously), bills, contracts to be encrypted before they are uploaded.
If you can encrypt your documents for free anyway, why don't do so? (You never know if Dropbox/Wuala get hacked, I rather have a little layer of security then).

besides wuala is cheaper

In my opinion Dropbox, Box, Google Drive, and SkyDrive will be the perfect fit for the mentioned task. From the box android app when you signup you get 50 GB free space for life time. It a free app and easy to use and with Dropbox, you will get 5GB of storage free. You may also browse some useful information on best cloud storage providers!

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Dropbox for me is better than sugarsync or box.net, the weak point only give 2.5 GB
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I use Dropbox heavily, friends around Australia all share through it so have access to all our photos and videos (we 4wd quite a lot )
Carry out as many space earning things as you can, I got 4 or 5GB doing that, plus 25GB for the one x deal and 50GB for the S3 LTE deal so currently have 80GB storage space

Sharing Google Drive Access with Apps...

Is there any inherent risks in allowing applications to have access to your Google Drive? It sure is handy for apps to read/write directly to GDrive, but I wonder about the risks.
Any thoughts on this?

billykxda said:
Is there any inherent risks in allowing applications to have access to your Google Drive? It sure is handy for apps to read/write directly to GDrive, but I wonder about the risks.
Any thoughts on this?
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What? No opinions??

Id say there is a risk. Which is why you are asked if it is a trusted source. If you are just doing it for a file manager similar things it Might be Better to use a networked share from a PC. Like cifs or sshfs instead of clouds and dropboxes.

Thanks.
The reason I asked was b/c I was using Kingsoft Office (a MS Office-type app) to edit a personal doc I store in Google Drive. Since I needed to get the edits done, I "allowed" access. Then I reconsidered, thinking - who knows who Kingsoft is? Who know what they might do with access to my Google account (whatever level of access that is)?
So I immediately removed access to my Google Drive, changed my Google account password, and put the doc in my Dropbox account - which I never use and is empty except for this one doc. I pointed Kingsoft to Dropbox. So now I have what I want - universal access to a specific doc from a couple of different apps on different platforms.
I think I am OK at this point. I don't ever expect to use my Dropbox for anything besides this one doc, since I use Google doc for everything else that I do.

have you thought if double auth for your gmail account?

BrianDigital said:
have you thought if double auth for your gmail account?
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I used double-auth for my Google account a few years back, and there was something about it that was a major PIA. Don't recall what that was. But I think a new, very strong password should do the trick.
At least I hope so...

[Utility] All-in-One Cloud Service - Million Dollar iDea

Hello
I just had an idea and would like to share with anyone who had knowledge that could enhance this idea .
Exist today in Mercardo numerous companies that offer free space in the cloud for our files , however each of these companies has its own software to access files .
Do you think it would be possible that someone or some company was interested in creating a software that could connect and manage multiple accounts of cloud at the same time?
So we could open a free account for cloud service , then this program could join all the free spaces provided in one large space STORAGE .
What do you think of the idea ? it would make my life easy !
Dropbox - 2GB Free
Skydrive - 2GB Free
spideroak.com - 2GB Free
Asus WebStorage - 5GB free
Amazon Cloud Drive - 5GB free
Box - 10GB free
meocloud.pt - 16GB free
GoogleDrive - 15GB free
adrive.com - 50GB free
mega.co.nz - 50GB free
abelhas.pt - Unlimited *
Well , this is my idea hopefully someone can use and develop something to make life easier for everyone!

FTFY, SkyDrive offers 7 GB of free storage.

I've been working on this for about a week now.
I've gotten Box and Dropbox working so far. It also selects which service to upload the file to based on file size and space available. I'll keep you posted.

What would REALLY make (business) sense of such a project would be making a RESTful API developers could use.
For example, I could be writing a web application that works with user files. One option would be the user to choose and upload a file from their current client machine. An alternative would be browsing all of their cloud storage accounts and choosing a file source from there.
Keep it up, it could become something

Looks like it's been done.
http://cumulo.azurewebsites.net/

^^imagine when it gets hack . Say a very long goodbye to all your cloud data.

badboy47 said:
^^imagine when it gets hack . Say a very long goodbye to all your cloud data.
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How would it be hacked?

mattman86 said:
How would it be hacked?
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NSA says hi.

badboy47 said:
NSA says hi.
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Haha... The NSA is the least of our worries on the privacy front. Besides, I feel bad for the guy that has to sift through all of my internet history and files stored on my cloud accounts. He must be terribly bored.

Chinese services offer tons of capacity for free, for example 360 yunpan gives you 36 TERAbytes, and it's possible to increase this. The problem is that everything is written in Chinese

Also have on tencent site english language. I have 10TB free