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Hi,
I remember from owning an IPhone having to synchronise my ewallet (a password manager) files over the air from the desktop whilst the app was running on the phone. (I'll admit it was a minor annoyance).
Having moved to android and using a combination of dropbox and keepass, I don't really think about anymore - I just open dropbox and click the file and keepass opens up.
But, what about WP7? I realise that apps are only permitted to use their own storage. If I were to build a say, a keepass app for WP7, would I be back to building some desktop client software that allow syncing over the air whilst the app was running (like IPhone/ewallet), or hooking into any number of online sync services like Dropbox, Box.net, Pogoplug, etc, just to get the file some place the app can reach it.
I'm having trouble thinking of any other option given the lack of any common storage.
Thanks
If you did develop Keepass for WP7, you'd have your first customer here!
I'm actually tempted to try and port it myself, and I've come to the same conclusion as you regarding storage. The local KDB file would need to held in private storage and synchronised to an off-device copy, be that a desktop app or something like drop box.
A keepass app is one of the things I was considering. Not so sure about it now.
I'll have a look round for an elegant solution.
Well, isn't Skydrive the same as Dropbox? As I understood WP7 uses Skydrive to store your files 'in the cloud'; so why not put your Keepass file there?
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Well, isn't Skydrive the same as Dropbox? As I understood WP7 uses Skydrive to store your files 'in the cloud'; so why not put your Keepass file there?
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I'd not considered skydrive/mesh. I'll 'ave a look.
Thanks for the heads-up.
I'm thinking of writing a desktop synching app myself. That way any WP7 app could connect to it to import files from a PC.
I've thought about using skydrive myself, but it doesn't seem to offer a way to download the file directly.
The desktop counterpart integrates with explorer and allows you to right click on any file ex docs and pictures and send it to your windows phone! I am not sure how secure the cloud storage is at the moment but this is some nice innovation for a free app.
Read more here: http://wpcentral.com/send-wp7-hits-back-desktop-app
You can compose texts, emails and notes on the desktop and send it to the phone as well. The application utilizes windows 7 jumplists and works almost instantaneously.
I'm impressed.
Cloud is the future. Resistance is futile.
Well, well, well...I guess if Microsoft wasn't going to step in and make SkyDrive play nice on WP7 (access through browser doesn't count if you cannot sync), then someone had to. I like where Send To WP7 is going. It is quite impressive indeed.
It's just a shame that Microsoft, who probably has more data centres than 98% of all corporations in the world, and is in the best position to promote cloud services ( like Windows Live ) is still lagging behind.
I'm the author of Send to WP7, if you have any other suggestions for ways you can send stuff to your phone, do let me know. I'm open to pretty much anything that's technically possibly without costing me an arm and a leg in infrastructure.
The main complaint in the current implementation is that it uploads to a public hosting site. Live Mesh and SkyDrive don't have suitable APIs for doing this, as I would very much like to tie everything into Windows Live. In order to be useful, the files need to be accessible via an HTTP URL, without requiring a cookie or authentication (HTTP auth may be acceptable, but it needs to be opened in the browser to have access to docs and PDFs.
Also do note that this is a preview quality build, I just figured some people may already want to start using it.
If only you could make a "Send From WP7" app...
The ability to send to other Windows Phones would be nice.
kapanak said:
If only you could make a "Send From WP7" app...
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No APIs to let me do this, unfortunately.
karelj said:
The ability to send to other Windows Phones would be nice.
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I'm not so sure this is practical, you may as well just email a link, right? if you're talking about from the browser, using the bookmarklet for alternate phones is supported in all desktop browsers.
davux, i'm not sure if it's possible as you don't have socket support, but a possible way to get skydrive access to work is to pass windows phone through fiddler and work out what it does when it syncs a onenote note to skydrive. i'm pretty sure this would be socket base meaning you'd be stuck, but if it isn't, you may just have the information required to directly upload to skydrive, with proper credentials and all.
it's just an idea, but this is what i'd try as a developer (yes i am one, but no where near experienced enough at this stage).
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davux, i'm not sure if it's possible as you don't have socket support, but a possible way to get skydrive access to work is to pass windows phone through fiddler and work out what it does when it syncs a onenote note to skydrive. i'm pretty sure this would be socket base meaning you'd be stuck, but if it isn't, you may just have the information required to directly upload to skydrive, with proper credentials and all.
it's just an idea, but this is what i'd try as a developer (yes i am one, but no where near experienced enough at this stage).
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I can actually access SkyDrive via WebDAV already, which is an HTTP protocol. I suspect OneNote sync does something similar, but I haven't checked it out. The primary issue with this approach is that it won't be all that useful. Images and text would transfer well like this, but if you wanted to send a PDF, or Office doc, there would be no way to open it. The only way to open these types of docs is through the browser. I figured a really important use-case is documents, so I decided to take another approach.
BTW - the current build of the desktop app now supports uploading to localhostr.com, serving up files via a local HTTP server, and using your Dropbox account.
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I can actually access SkyDrive via WebDAV already, which is an HTTP protocol. I suspect OneNote sync does something similar, but I haven't checked it out. The primary issue with this approach is that it won't be all that useful. Images and text would transfer well like this, but if you wanted to send a PDF, or Office doc, there would be no way to open it. The only way to open these types of docs is through the browser. I figured a really important use-case is documents, so I decided to take another approach.
BTW - the current build of the desktop app now supports uploading to localhostr.com, serving up files via a local HTTP server, and using your Dropbox account.
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Thank you for directly conversing with us Dave. I agree getting documents to the phone is the ideal usage of this application. Keep up the good work!
sayonical said:
The desktop counterpart integrates with explorer and allows you to right click on any file ex docs and pictures and send it to your windows phone! I am not sure how secure the cloud storage is at the moment but this is some nice innovation for a free app.
Read more here: http://wpcentral.com/send-wp7-hits-back-desktop-app
You can compose texts, emails and notes on the desktop and send it to the phone as well. The application utilizes windows 7 jumplists and works almost instantaneously.
I'm impressed.
Cloud is the future. Resistance is futile.
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just set it up. The push notifications are instant!!!
davux said:
I'm the author of Send to WP7, if you have any other suggestions for ways you can send stuff to your phone, do let me know. I'm open to pretty much anything that's technically possibly without costing me an arm and a leg in infrastructure.
The main complaint in the current implementation is that it uploads to a public hosting site. Live Mesh and SkyDrive don't have suitable APIs for doing this, as I would very much like to tie everything into Windows Live. In order to be useful, the files need to be accessible via an HTTP URL, without requiring a cookie or authentication (HTTP auth may be acceptable, but it needs to be opened in the browser to have access to docs and PDFs.
Also do note that this is a preview quality build, I just figured some people may already want to start using it.
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Interesting stuff indeed. I for one, appreciate the work you are doing.
Wait a minute, you can use the Desktop app and upload to phone using your own local network? That is significantly easier to trust than a free cloud service.
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Wait a minute, you can use the Desktop app and upload to phone using your own local network? That is significantly easier to trust than a free cloud service.
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Yes. Unfortunately I can't make it an SSL connection, I'm not willing to pay for a cert. I will see if a test-signed certificate will work, but that is not actually as secure.
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Yes. Unfortunately I can't make it an SSL connection, I'm not willing to pay for a cert. I will see if a test-signed certificate will work, but that is not actually as secure.
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I've been trying out the desktop app with the local Wi-Fi method, and this seems to me the best way to get stuff to the phone. It's very quick too.
The dropbox integration isworking, and quite well. I'm wondering is there a way in future to upload to a private dropbox share?
Even though it's only an early preview, the dekstop app is great. I like the integration with Windows 7; I have it pinned to my taskbar. Might be useful to have a "Start with Windows" option in there. I'm sure you're aware of some of the bugs like the lack of proper icons in the jumplist Tasks and the filenaming issue that causes PDFs to be unreadable from WP7. To be expected with a preview.
From a UI point of view, I think the "Set Transfer Destination" option should not be in the jumplist and should be in the main config window instead. It's not a menu item you would need ever access to again after you've set your dropbox settings.
The WP7 app itself is also coming along great. I'm wondering if you will split the file list into categories, eg Notes, Links, Images, Files etc. Or failing that, have just "New" and "All" categories? Perhaps, for things like notes, you can Archive them into an Archive category... just an idea. Oh, and when a file is sent via the desktop app at the moment, for example a photo, instead of displaying just as "File", perhaps it could display as "File - {name}"?
Great stuff, getting great use out of this app so far, and its usefulness will explode when copy and paste arrives to WP7 devices. Thanks!
A big thanks to Dave for this excellent tool, it is also nice to see a thread wherevpeoplevare pushing the boundaries of what can be done with wp7 rather than just slanting it off.
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The dropbox integration isworking, and quite well. I'm wondering is there a way in future to upload to a private dropbox share?
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Not likely, as I've been saying, the phone needs to be able to access a share via the web browser. As far as I know, Dropbox private folders won't do this. That's why I've included an option to mutate the name a bit, so someone can't just guess filenames in your public folder.
The WP7 app itself is also coming along great. I'm wondering if you will split the file list into categories, eg Notes, Links, Images, Files etc. Or failing that, have just "New" and "All" categories? Perhaps, for things like notes, you can Archive them into an Archive category... just an idea. Oh, and when a file is sent via the desktop app at the moment, for example a photo, instead of displaying just as "File", perhaps it could display as "File - {name}"?
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Note that the phone app has absolutely no support for the desktop app at this time, I will bring support for it in an update. Views are likely, I haven't decided what to do yet. I wouldn't expect that update for a couple of weeks though.
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A big thanks to Dave for this excellent tool, it is also nice to see a thread wherevpeoplevare pushing the boundaries of what can be done with wp7 rather than just slanting it off.
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Thanks.
Send to WP7 Desktop
Dave, thanks for this app. It works well so far & I'm sure I'll get a lot of use out of this. One problem though I'm not getting notifications & when I open the app on the phone I get a push notification error. 'Failed to open channel'. Great work mate. Keep it up. Will send a donation when I get a chance.
davux said:
I'm the author of Send to WP7, if you have any other suggestions for ways you can send stuff to your phone, do let me know. I'm open to pretty much anything that's technically possibly without costing me an arm and a leg in infrastructure.
The main complaint in the current implementation is that it uploads to a public hosting site. Live Mesh and SkyDrive don't have suitable APIs for doing this, as I would very much like to tie everything into Windows Live. In order to be useful, the files need to be accessible via an HTTP URL, without requiring a cookie or authentication (HTTP auth may be acceptable, but it needs to be opened in the browser to have access to docs and PDFs.
Also do note that this is a preview quality build, I just figured some people may already want to start using it.
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I can not download it in Germany
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Dave, thanks for this app. It works well so far & I'm sure I'll get a lot of use out of this. One problem though I'm not getting notifications & when I open the app on the phone I get a push notification error. 'Failed to open channel'. Great work mate. Keep it up. Will send a donation when I get a chance.
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I actually have this same problem on my device. I opened the same-named notification channel on a dev build, then I uninstalled that build while it had the channel open - now neither the marketplace build nor new dev builds will open the channel.
I don't know how you got into this situation, but my point is that I don't really know what I can do to help--I'm under the assumption that all I can do to fix my device is to do a master reset (so I'm waiting for the NoDo update). I'm hoping that this bug is fixed in the next update, but I don't know if it's even officially reported.
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I can not download it in Germany
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I've selected all possible countries, which I think includes Germany. I don't think there is anything else I can do for you--maybe I could post a link to the XAP and you could sideload it? My only issue with this is that I'll then have to maintain a secondary distribution channel, and will need to build some kind of updater.
you should be able to post a zune link and it should allow him to access it that way. no need to sideload.
The Zune:// link has always been on my product page.
http://www.daveamenta.com/products/chrome-to-wp7/
EDIT: Mod please correct spelling in topic title. Rushing combined with no proofreading isn't good.
I searched, couldn't really find what I felt was accurate information with what little was available. I need to change Gmail cause the one associated with my DInc is years old & become cluttered with junk. I realize I can export my contacts from the original then import to the new at which point they should sync with that account.
Big question. What about apps? How can the purchase history be changed, app info backed up. Just any opinions, advice or whatever. Prefer to do it right the first time.
Basically would like to have work completely as is but with fresh address.
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Since everything is associated with your Gmail account, I presume you'll have to contact Google about it. I am not sure if they've made changes to allow that or not. You also could contact the developer of the app, they may be able to help out too. It seems like it is an issue for a lot of people, so if you find an answer, please share your steps!
For apps I guess it would depend upon how you paid for them. I use Google Checkout so all my app purchases are linked to my account. The dev has to keep that information somewhere to verify that you bought it but not sure that you could get it out of them that easily a lot are just ma and pa devs and who knows what they keep around. Also not sure if Google allows you to rename your email address but it might be an option in account settings. That way you don't have to open a new account and all your Google accounts would be updated.
I went into my account but didn't see any thing in the settings which would allow you to rename the email account. Google tech support might be able to do it if you contacted them.
Just picked up a request from the DEV IDEA POOL
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I have a very simple app request to target unlocked phones. Basically a one button switch between primary LiveID accounts based on sensboston's work: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1335240
1. Launch app
2. app asks for email address
3. user types in email address or selects email from list of last-used addresses
4. app asks "Are you sure?" with suitable warning
5. app writes selected email address to following regkeys:
Code:
[HKCU\Software\Microsoft\ActiveSync\Partners\{B2830118-7BC6-4A74-8C9A-3D8B9CEF88E0}]
"Email"[email protected]
"User"[email protected]
[HKCU\Software\Microsoft\IdentityCRL\Environment\Production]
"DefaultID"[email protected]
6. app automatically reboots phone
Simple enough, right?
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Here it is!
Because I made no test on myself please give me feedback if the registry values get applied
ne0cr0n, unfortunately, "my" method has some important cons (you should list 'em) - after that change you'll be not able to upload pictures to SkyDrive, also some accounts like Twitter will be non-functional I've tried to find some workaround but without success...
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ne0cr0n, unfortunately, "my" method has some important cons (you should list 'em) - after that change you'll be not able to upload pictures to SkyDrive, also some accounts like Twitter will be non-functional I've tried to find some workaround but without success...
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but you can revert it back, right?
The new LiveID could be associated to a different market zone, which you could use to buy some apps with your correct credit card infos, then revert back to your main LiveID, and regain all regular functionalities like auto uploads to skydrive, twitter integration, etc.
Am I right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25500576#post25500576
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Am I right?
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I'm so sorry but I can't confirm - just never tested this way. I've researched that hack 'cause damn Verizon blocked and deleted my very-very old email ( @verizon.net) what I've used during 11 years, and also as my LiveID email.
Wow dude thanks for writing the app so quickly. What is the etiquette for sharing apps? Are you supposed to share source code too? I don't want to be rude by asking you for the source
I don't use twitter, but I was able to upload a photo to skydrive just fine after swapping LiveID's. Steps:
reset my phone with my own liveID
download bunch of apps from appstore
dev unlock/interop, etc
manually edit registry and change to my wife's LiveID (she has zunepass on her ID which is why I wanted to swap to hers)
reboot phone
take picture
upload to skydrive
login to skydrive app and see that picture is there on *my* skydrive account, not my wife's
So skydrive integration with picture hub/camera obviously stored my liveID and credentials somewhere other than the regkeys I edited. Most likely Twitter is the same way.
I presume the credential data is stored encrypted in some weird GUID key with no obvious pattern. Too bad there is no regmon/procmon tool like on Big windows, otherwise I could figure it out in a few seconds... Although somehow I doubt that you can use provxml to import export those keys to re-write encrypted credentials. That would be a pretty bad exploit.
So I ran IDSwitch and it gave me the error "no root access". Hmm. So I went into WP7 Root tools and switched on "trusted" for the app.
So a pre-requisite for running the app is to have WP7 root tools? I'm kinda new at this so perhaps that is an assumption of any app that is going to do interop/native stuff? In order to get it to work you have to set it to "trusted"?
Anyway the app let me type in the new liveID and rebooted the phone, but upon booting up, it appears that the old LiveID is still there in the 3 registry settings. I ran it a second time and the app remembered the address I typed in so thats cool. BUt again after rebooting, it failed to modify the registry entries.
Can you post up a debug version with some breakpoints or console spew? I could try to attach a debugger on my end (not sure I know how to do that, but I can try to figure it out)
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ne0cr0n, unfortunately, "my" method has some important cons (you should list 'em) - after that change you'll be not able to upload pictures to SkyDrive, also some accounts like Twitter will be non-functional I've tried to find some workaround but without success...
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Thanks for the info. I will add a warning and how to use message when launching the app for the first time.
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Wow dude thanks for writing the app so quickly. What is the etiquette for sharing apps? Are you supposed to share source code too? I don't want to be rude by asking you for the source
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I will do that, but the code is kind of ugly xD
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Can you post up a debug version with some breakpoints or console spew? I could try to attach a debugger on my end (not sure I know how to do that, but I can try to figure it out)
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I uploaded the source. Should make things much easier
I tried it on Samsung Focus Mango updated with WP7 Root Tools. Even though it reboots but it does not change the primary id. After reboot when I open the app again, it shows the primary id as the old id and not the id to which I wanted to switch.
Found the bug. I used the content from to current ID textbox not the new ID textbox -.-
I guess nobody tested it or I am getting a different result. Here is what happens :
1. ID A which is primary ID in my Account with No CC.
2. I switch from ID A to ID B. ID B does not have a CC.
3. When I access Marketplace, The region used is according to ID B.
4. Next I Move to buy an App and it asks me to signin with ID A instead of ID B.
5. For free apps, I can easily download it without going to login page ever which is pretty obvious.
Today Evening I will try out to buy app by signing with ID A when it sends me to login page of ID B by first sigining out and then signing again.
Few things I noticed :
1. Facebook, Twitter, Skydrive all was working.
2. It takes a while for the OS to realize the ID is new and hence may take around a minute or more to change marketplace.
3. I downloaded a free app with the swtched id and used it without any issues.
4. I even updated a free App which was bought using the primary ID with the new ID.
5. Email ID A stopped working. It did not show any email nor it gave an error of wrong password which is pretty odd.
My Thoughts :
1. This will be useful for parents who have kids carrying a Windows Phone who do not want to give them credit card access but using this they might buy apps for kids.
2. I still need to test but this will work for IDs which are in same region. For example I have a US id to which if I want to add a CC, the country is fixed and hence I cannot use an Indian CC with it.
wpxbox said:
1. Facebook, Twitter, Skydrive all was working.
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Try to share pictures from camera to SkyDrive...
wpxbox said:
2. It takes a while for the OS to realize the ID is new and hence may take around a minute or more to change marketplace.
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Try to reboot after LiveID change.
Just tried it out and it worked. The file was uploaded to Skydrive account of the primary Live id.
Wait... What "primary Live id" and what are you tried? New one or the old one? Have you tried:
- change LiveID to new one
- reboot handsets
- go to pictures hub and share picture to the SkyDrive ?
When I said Primary Live Id I mean the ID with which the phone was configured.
1.Phone configured with ID A
2. Change to ID B using the app, Reboot
3. Upload to Skydrive and it was stored in ID A Skydrive Account.
He-he, it's exactly what I mean by "not working". For example if you change first (original) LiveID email to the new one (as I had to do), you'll be not able to upload pictures to SkyDrive, and can't login to the Twitter account. So please do not confuse people.
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He-he, it's exactly what I mean by "not working". For example if you change first (original) LiveID email to the new one (as I had to do), you'll be not able to upload pictures to SkyDrive, and can't login to the Twitter account. So please do not confuse people.
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Oh Ok I understand now what you said by breaking. The new ID cannot be used for Skydrive or Facebook or Twitter etc in short, anything connected with old Live id.
Basically its not a true switcher and can only be used to buy apps with the new account connected with CC
Hi all
The whole idea of this app is JUST to let you assign an account that will give u the ability to buy apps from marketplace using CC, if your original ID have problem with adding CC information. So it is not to change you ID permanently. You can read my thread if u want. Anyway thanks op for making the app.
I can confirm this works. Just bought an app using a different account and it works. Editing a video on this so will be up in couple of hours.
As promised, Here the link to the video we made http://youtu.be/2H7dr7ZzJZs
I am rooted on a pixel 2 XL with magisk v14 and manager 5.4.3. I have twrp 3.1.1 beta 2. I have changed the calling preference on the phone to wifi with an ADB command. Aside from that no other mods come to mind.
I have multiple functioning apps on my phone and am loving root. However, Facebook, Tumblr, Microsoft word, and Microsoft Excel give me messages saying they can't connect to the internet when I open them. This renders Facebook and Tumblr useless. The office programs can work locally. I tried hiding root from Facebook in magisk to no avail. What's going on with these apps? Do I need to change something on my phone or in it's system? Could any particular root apps like adaway be causing this?
Ok, so I was at least smart enough to be able to determine that adaway is not allowing every single one of the apps I mentioned to connect to the internet.
What's the solution here? Is adaway obsolete in 2017? Is the answer to just go download and buy adguard from the playstore?
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Ok, so I was at least smart enough to be able to determine that adaway is not allowing every single one of the apps I mentioned to connect to the internet.
What's the solution here? Is adaway obsolete in 2017? Is the answer to just go download and buy adguard from the playstore?
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Adaway is definitely not obsolete. It was removed from the Play Store and will never come back there. There is a thread here on XDA with updates, lots of good help, (and the same questions asked over and over). :good:
Adaway blocks urls / websites but not apps, so you have something else going on. Here is the tutorial to find blocked sites that need to be whitelisted, You can try it.
https://github.com/AdAway/AdAway/wiki/LogDNS
This was tremendously helpful. It did exactly what I wanted. Thank u. Hopefully others see this and it helps them too.
Schroeder09 said:
This was tremendously helpful. It did exactly what I wanted. Thank u. Hopefully others see this and it helps them too.
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Hi, my setup is similar to yours (rooted, etc) and I've got Google Docs and Sheets thinking they're not connected to WiFi or data. How were you able to resolve your data issue?
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Hi, my setup is similar to yours (rooted, etc) and I've got Google Docs and Sheets thinking they're not connected to WiFi or data. How were you able to resolve your data issue?
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I haven't focused on getting those working yet, but it seems that the word is working. Excel still gives me the connection error. Adaway was the culprit for facebook. I suspect it is for the microsoft office apps too. I just have to addressed them because I will not be using them heavily. If you have an adblocking app please follow the instructions in the link that Pkt_lnt posted. They're very straightforward and helpful. You need to basically turn ad-blocking off, put it in a "scanning mode", use the app you want to for a few minutes so the adblocking app sees it, then the adblocking app will pick up on host file sites that the app uses. You can add these to a "white list." The adblocking will no longer block the app. It's important to note that if other apps use the same host file that you have just whitelisted ads will appear in that app too. White listing a host file is universal and is not done on an in-app basis.
Thank you!