Anyone know of a good compatible wireless headset? One that won't fall off due to jogging or hurrying... I don't mind looking at cheap ones and expensive ones...
Try the Bose ie2 in ear phones. I use them when I am running they never fall out my ear.
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Huh...OK, maybe something cheaper than that... that one isn't wireless, though...
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Anyone know of a good compatible wireless headset? One that won't fall off due to jogging or hurrying... I don't mind looking at cheap ones and expensive ones...
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none if your going to be jogging or running or any hurried movement i wouldn't trust a wireless headset unless it was specially designed to basically bend completely round your ear.
a google search might help though.
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Anyone know of a good compatible wireless headset? One that won't fall off due to jogging or hurrying... I don't mind looking at cheap ones and expensive ones...
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Jabra bt 3030
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Sony Ericsson MW600... Works great... And even gives you fm radio without need of internet radio
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Jaybird freedoms, expensive but never fall out of myy ear, they come with different moldings to fill tthe ear and stay in
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Sony Ericsson MW600... Works great... And even gives you fm radio without need of internet radio
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Seconded - the MW600 is excellent and you can use your own earphones if you don't like the Sony's.
Rocketfish
It's 50 buks
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i would recommend nokia bh-503..i have one..it has bass...super bass...plus good quality and perfect fit...
I use my wireless xbox 360 headset with bluetooth, the new ones. The sound is realyl really loud and crisp. I really love this new headset, plus I can use it for my xbox and my xperia play.
Thanks for the suggestions... can you actually make phone calls with any of these sets?
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Thanks for the suggestions... can you actually make phone calls with any of these sets?
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On mine yes. I have tried 2 other headsets and this works well. If you mean voice dialing then mine can do that, although I think that is something that pertains to the phone itself....
Am using Logitech Wireless Headset for iPad
it's ok...
OK. I just got the Jabra Stone 2... it's perfect except for that it comes off way too easily... I don't have to do much...just walk, and it's already loose. Now I am looking to get something that stays on. Anyone know of a BT headset that has built-in voice command control, like this one, has good battery life, operates at a long range, make calls, has A2DP, and actually stays on (preferably when in a hurry or jogging)?
This is a very cool headset. It comes with a very small cradle you can carry around and it acts as a portable charger, with a battery built in, that can charge the headset 3 times...
Unless there is a piece you can buy to snap onto the headset to make the fit better...
I would also like to recommend the Nokia BH-03 headphones, I use them all the time on the running machine/cross country trainer. Battery lasts around a dozen hours between charging.
Don't bother with Nokia BH-01's they are identical, except for build quailty. The plastic band that wraps around your head tends to snap. My BH-03's are much sturdier and I can't see that happening
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As somebody already stated, Sony Ericsson mw600. It's my way to go. Sound quality is really nice for a bluetooth headset, well built, volume is not so high but (as for the standard xperia play headphones) it's good in bass range. Not easy to find in-hears with such basses. Stock headphone isn't bad at all and fits fine for me, and anyway, you can change it with something you prefer. It also gives you a simple FM radio...which the Xperia Play lacks. Fast to recharge, battery lasts, unexpensive device, once paired...just works!
Perfect Xperia Play companion, in my opinion.
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I need to retire my old Moto S305 set soon. What should I get? Or if there is a compelling reason to get a wired set with inline mic let me know. Whatever it may be it will need to handle sweat- I wear mine while working out. Thanks!
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None of the stereo bluetooth headsets are going to be sweat proof. Some are sweat resistant though. If you're worried about sweat, you can get a 3.5mm bluetooth adapter for $25 to work with a 3.5mm headset designed for working out.
Yeah, perhaps I should have worded that differently. I doubt my S305s are rated as sweat proof or even sweat resistant but they have lasted a couple years. They still work but the plastic is starting to warp and I'm sick of the foam ear padding detaching as it's a pain to repack it in there.
So I want something that is as durable as they were. I don't mind buying a new set every couple years.
Do you have a link for that adapter? I'd like to take a look.
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Jabra A120s: http://www.amazon.com/Jabra-A120s-Bluetooth-audio-adapter/dp/B000KVWNR2/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
The foam padding occasionally pops off. Not too hard to repack. Just use a nail file or something similar to pop the ring just outside one of the speakers. The foam padding just wraps around it. Then snap the ring back into place. Takes like 5 mins or less.
Thanks for the advice on my headset. Works much better than repacking without removing the ring like I was attempting!
But your link....I don't think thats the correct adapter for the job. But I'm sure I can find the appropriate item if I decide to go that route.
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If the padding comes off often, just superglue the padding to the ring. That's what I did to my Motorola S305 headphones.
are you guys running aosp or sense with your S305s? I've used a pair with my BT audio devices for awhile but i get skips when i'm not in line of sight (phone behind me in my cycling jersey) and i'm trying to see if anyone else has similar issues.
For the sweat resistant headset question, what about the moto S9HD? they're marketed as being sweat resistant i believe. Having used S305's i think you're already used to having the wraparound band behind your head. Only difference between the two is that one is a headphone and of course the S9HD are earphones.
I'm using Sense. When I'm working out I use cheap $10 headphones with a headphone jack.
linhpham2 said:
None of the stereo bluetooth headsets are going to be sweat proof. Some are sweat resistant though. If you're worried about sweat, you can get a 3.5mm bluetooth adapter for $25 to work with a 3.5mm headset designed for working out.
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I don't get this. Why would you buy a bluetooth adapter for a device that already has bluetooth built in??
Regardless, i have one of those adapters for my ipod and it works perfectly
I think he meant a Bluetooth receiver/adapter for regular headphones to plug into. That's why I questioned his link.
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I use these at work. I haven't had any problems with them. The headset that comes with it is a little short, but it has a 3.5mm headset jack so any pair of wired headphones would work. It also has a built in FM tuner so you can listen to the radio too.
Sony Ericsson MW600
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Ericsson...1DCM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1300926336&sr=8-1
Motorola S9-HD or S10-HD
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Motorola S9-HD or S10-HD
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Hey guys, i've a question i'm planning to buy sony erricson mw600 bluetooth for galaxy note but there are few questions that i want to ask is:
1) whether all the keys like volume etc work fine with it?
2) how is the sound quality in terms of music and calls.
3) is there an option of fast forwarding and skipping of songs.
4) what about the range of Bluetooth?
Please guys help me out and if there is any other better option available than mw600 (similar to it) than do suggest me.
Thanks in advance.
sunilojha2kn said:
Hey guys, i've a question i'm planning to buy sony erricson mw600 bluetooth for galaxy note but there are few questions that i want to ask is:
1) whether all the keys like volume etc work fine with it?
2) how is the sound quality in terms of music and calls.
3) is there an option of fast forwarding and skipping of songs.
4) what about the range of Bluetooth?
Please guys help me out and if there is any other better option available than mw600 (similar to it) than do suggest me.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi, i have one.
1) whether all the keys like volume etc work fine with it?
Yes, no problem
2) how is the sound quality in terms of music and calls.
Very good quality
3) is there an option of fast forwarding and skipping of songs.
Hold forward or backward
4) what about the range of Bluetooth?
Like others, 12 meters and no problem.
Everything is ok ! Buy it
You have radio function too with the mw600.
IMHO, a very good bluetooth kit, good song for daily use.
(Sorry for my poor English).
I had the the MW600...but returned.
I don't like the fact the clip is so sensitive, always clicked when clip on .
I got this ...Sony Ericsson HBH-IS800 instead.
sunilojha2kn said:
1) whether all the keys like volume etc work fine with it?
2) how is the sound quality in terms of music and calls.
3) is there an option of fast forwarding and skipping of songs.
4) what about the range of Bluetooth?
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All the functions work, play/pause, skip/last, volume, call send and end, etc.
Sound quality is great, I love the fact you can use any earbuds thanks to the 3.5mm jack. I use some pretty high-end in ear modules and they sound really good. The buds that come with the module sound decent as well.
Yes you can fast forward (long press) or just skip, with a single click of the forward button.
Bluetooth range, covers my small apartment with no issue. So 30 feet or so?
I'm loving this with my note, having to take out the note to control my music was getting really bothersome, now I can leave it in my pocket
Wanted to like it but the touch sensitive volume adjust was a big no no
I have one and love it volume sensitivity isn't an issue for me.
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i have it aswell.works fine music calls radio etc...about 8 hrs music with this little thing. worth buying 100%! cheers!
rogconnect said:
I had the the MW600...but returned.
I don't like the fact the clip is so sensitive, always clicked when clip on .
I got this ...Sony Ericsson HBH-IS800 instead.
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How do you like them IS800's?
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Wanted to like it but the touch sensitive volume adjust was a big no no
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Don't agree at all. Actually I thought it would be a problem but fortunately the volume changes only when you mean to change it. I use it every single day on my Note.
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How do you like them IS800's?
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First, it don't have the clip attachment so it very comfortable.
Battery life is not bad,I didn't really tested how long it last but it good for me.
when using as the Mic for the phone, no compliant from the other end.
Sound it good for music using with Poweramp which have the equalizer.
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First, it don't have the clip attachment so it very comfortable.
Battery life is not bad,I didn't really tested how long it last but it good for me.
when using as the Mic for the phone, no compliant from the other end.
Sound it good for music using with Poweramp which have the equalizer.
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Thanks these look like what i want. Glad they have a mic for incoming Calls. For 60 bucks not bad.
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I have a set of MW600, which I think are excellent.
I did look at the IS800's, but they had one massive flaw in comparison IMO, and that is that unlike the MW600's, they don't use MicroUSB for charging.
As a frequent traveller, I don't want to carry more chargers than is strictly necessary, and having to carry a dedicated charger for a tiny set of headphones just doesn't work for me.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
I have a set of MW600, which I think are excellent.
I did look at the IS800's, but they had one massive flaw in comparison IMO, and that is that unlike the MW600's, they don't use MicroUSB for charging.
As a frequent traveller, I don't want to carry more chargers than is strictly necessary, and having to carry a dedicated charger for a tiny set of headphones just doesn't work for me.
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Dave
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That's a valid point. For me I'm fine with that.
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range of bluetooth seems pretty excellent. Interestingly the quality isn't much worse than the output from the headphone jack on the note itself (which is appalling, but just to make the point).
Something I would love to experiment with is using different headphones with it, as well as using an AOSP bluetooth stack with higher bitpool. Higher bitpool by itself would make the headphones well.. perfect. The DAC on them is no worse than the GNote dac.
I definitely love the fact that they use MicroUSB for charging, as I only need to keep one charger around. I could probably get away with just using one wall adapter for a micro USB cable, and having a portable USB device as well as a single cable to charge two devices on the go.
Battery life is really good, and I've had it last two days before on a single charge. Sometimes (with heavy use) it dies with the note, which is not a problem either
i have the mw600 and use a pair of etymotic hf5 with it and love it
http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/hf5.html
allthow there is a new sony one out and about
http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/products/accessories/smart-wireless-headset-pro/
looks intresting
decoyeb said:
i have the mw600 and use a pair of etymotic hf5 with it and love it
http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/hf5.html
allthow there is a new sony one out and about
http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/products/accessories/smart-wireless-headset-pro/
looks intresting
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That Sony looks nice. For me the point of wireless headphones would be no Clip on unit and less cables which i like about the is800's .
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The only issue I have with the mw600 is that - as I am a frequent traveller too and I use a second phone with a local SIM card - it can not connect simultaneously with two phones, although it can be paired with two phones.
It can only connect to one phone and one other device, like a computer or particularly in my case with a Motorola Xoom.
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as I am a frequent traveller too and I use a second phone with a local SIM card
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I have a ViewSonic V350 backup phone which I use when travelling as it has dual SIMs!
It's not a stellar handset in and of itself (poor screen), but it is ideal when travelling.
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Dave
has anyone bought bluetooth headphones? need a good pair to wear to the gym!
DELL BH200 Bluetooth 2.0 Stereo Headset
Sennheiser MM550 - Sony DR-BT50
If you like full sized headphones like I do, I highly recommend Wireless Rythym by Miikey Stereo. The sound quality, bass response, efficiency and ease of use is out of this world.
Keep in mind that I have been through more than 10 different headsets in the last 2 years. I think I have finally found what I have been looking for.
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thanks for the information. but like to know few more names to compare.
I have a pair of the motorola S10-HD and Iike them. When i ride my bike i wear them some times and at the gym i would wear them for running. They hurt my ears after long use of them but they are light and stay in place.
Black Red Motorola S10-HD Bluetooth Stereo Headphone w/ Comfortable Sweat Proof Design
price of a headset
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If you like full sized headphones like I do, I highly recommend Wireless Rythym by Miikey Stereo. The sound quality, bass response, efficiency and ease of use is out of this world.
Keep in mind that I have been through more than 10 different headsets in the last 2 years. I think I have finally found what I have been looking for.
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average price of a headset like that how much it costs?
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My Prantronics Backbeats 903 are really good. The sounds is great and bass too, the one problem is the comfort after hours of use them
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My Prantronics Backbeats 903 are really good. The sounds is great and bass too, the one problem is the comfort after hours of use them
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I got my set at Fry's for $50. I can see them being a problem with someone with a large head though, as the cord isn't very long. I also have experience with the Moto S10's which are also nice.
Sony Ericsson MW600 Bluetooth. They are in-ear earbuds but you can simply unplug them and plug in any other headphone that have the 3.5mm plug turning them into Bluetooth. So you can take your favorite wired headphone and make them Bluetooth. I wear them everyday and they are only $40-$50 on Amazon.
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I recently bought a pair of future sound lab zero headphones (also for use at the gym) and am quite satisfied with them. Very comfortable and great sound quality.
Only annoyance is the non-standard charging plug. Would've been better if they'd used a mini or micro usb port.
I really like my chinese BH-503 headphones. It's seems to be original Nokia, but so cheap on chinese shops (you can easily find it on ebay). Good sound quality and work time.
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I really like my chinese BH-503 headphones. It's seems to be original Nokia, but so cheap on chinese shops (you can easily find it on ebay). Good sound quality and work time.
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I've been using these for about 3 years without a problem. Paired with Poweramp's equaliser, you can really tune them to suit your taste and genre of music. They're also decent on battery, cheap, and eady to modify.
I bought a pair of Motorola S305 headphones, they are over the ear style, the band goes behind the neck, they charge with standard micro usb, the sound is decent, a little static in my ears on phone calls, but people say they can hear me better than on my phone alone. I've recommended them to my friends, and four of them bought them, all but one still loving them. The other sold them for inner ear bud style ones.
I'm still using mine, still loving them
Oh, and like $30 on newegg
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Check out these, they are even great for taking calls with the built in mic. I would have honestly paid twice what they cost me, was about 27$ with tax.
They come in Pink, Green, Blue, White, and Black
Artic Sound p311
eXpressionist said:
I really like my chinese BH-503 headphones. It's seems to be original Nokia, but so cheap on chinese shops (you can easily find it on ebay). Good sound quality and work time.
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I agreee for the money these are the way to go,,ebay.
Now i've searched in another forum but they didn't quite understand me.. what I want is a both ears headset, my old one broke, it was the plantronics backbeat 903+, it was practecly perfect.. 7 hours listening to music, complete control over the phone from the headset.. I'm looking for something similer, someone recommended the backbeat GO, but they only have 4 hours.. and it's nothing.. despite how awesome they look.. so.. any suggestions?
tnx in advance.
I have Sony Ericsson Bluetooth dongle. It comes with in ear headphones, but the dongle itself has 3.5 mm input. Yo can use it with all kind of headphones. 10 hours non stop music. And the sound is crystal clear.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261141283986
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invisiblebm said:
I have Sony Ericsson Bluetooth dongle. It comes with in ear headphones, but the dongle itself has 3.5 mm input. Yo can use it with all kind of headphones. 10 hours non stop music. And the sound is crystal clear.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261141283986
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actually that's is not what I was looking for, I don't wanna make my earphones to become wirelees' I want a wireless headset, simmiler to the model I had before, the backbeat 903+
If your budget allows ($170), check out the new Jaybird Bluebuds X that just came out a few weeks ago. I ordered mine from their site and am blown away by the sound quality and battery life.
very pricey, but its worth every penny.
how many hours does it actually clock?
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ThreeFacesofG said:
If your budget allows ($170), check out the new Jaybird Bluebuds X that just came out a few weeks ago. I ordered mine from their site and am blown away by the sound quality and battery life.
very pricey, but its worth every penny.
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WOW 10 hours of battery life?? I know what I want for christmas.. haha
actually I was looking for something aroud the 100-120$.. but these.. wow, I think i'm gonna start saving for these! tnx
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how many hours does it actually clock?
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I've never done an actual benchmark test on the battery. Perhaps this weekend, I'll pair it with my laptop and leave it streaming throughout the day(s)
I've been pretty happy with the LG Tone headphones I got a while back. They have a collar piece, but it's not bad. Very good battery life and sound.
I got a Motorola s10-hd for $25 from woot.com and it works great
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I have an LG Tone headset too (HPS-730). They are pretty comfortable and claimed to have a talk time of 15hours. Although i haven't yet tested that to the max, but i've run through the whole day without charging them.
GS3 has aptX,and the problem is that there are almost no BT headphones that take advantage of this. I have Samsung HS3000 and use with good quality IEMs. It is not as good quality as wired, but is way better than non-aptX headsets.
If you are determined to get a native BT, it is a pretty short list with aptX, like maybe 2-3.
There's a brand new Motorola Bluetooth (S-11 maybe?) Headset which replaces the S10. It has apt-x, the earbuds are adjustable, looks pretty nice. No personal experience though.
I freakin' love my Jabra Sport. Comfortable, light weight, and holds enough charge for 4 trips to the gym each week. And the sound quality is great, with plenty of volume. (http://www.jabra.com/products/bluetooth/jabra_sport/jabra_sport)
I've had the Moto S9 and S10 (essentially identical) and they suck. Moisture always gets in and they stop working. Sound quality is weak and the volume isn't loud enough. Avoid these at all costs. Look at any list of reviews on these and you'll see the same results from everyone.
Has anyone used bluetooth earbuds with play music app?
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Has anyone used bluetooth earbuds with play music app?
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Yep, I have the LG Tone+ bluetooth earbuds and they work very well.
I assume you're enquiring about the play/pause/forward/back buttons on the headphones and whether they work with the Play Music program? If so, then yes, they work flawlessly for me at least.
I'm rocking the jabra rox wireless bluetooth
http://www.jabra.com/products/bluetooth/jabra_rox/jabra_rox
Old school Plantronic BackBeat 903's work fine.
Rocking the Jaybird Bluebuds X and it connects within 2 seconds, consistently. I use them with Play Music for my cloud music, and PowerAmp for offline media. Their MSRP is expensive, but I got them brand new for way under MSRP, thanks to SlickDeals
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I'm rocking the jabra rox wireless bluetooth
http://www.jabra.com/products/bluetooth/jabra_rox/jabra_rox
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Can I ask where you got them from? I want to buy a pair but can't find them online.
memphisraynz said:
Can I ask where you got them from? I want to buy a pair but can't find them online.
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I bought them in the apple store $129.00
Not earbuds, but have been using the Sony DR-BTN200 bluetooth on ear headphones and they work great! It is NFC compatible as well, so it complements marvelously with my Nexus 5.
not earbuds but I use this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Avantree-Saturn-Bluetooth-Transmitter-corporated/dp/B0085HOM4K
With my very old but awesome sounding denon 751's. It makes any ear/headphones bt compatible and in my experience it works great at close range either in the car or while commuting. Battery lasts me about 5 to 6 hours use over 4 days.
Sound quality has not been hit at all my denons sound the same as when plugged in directly to the nexus 5.
Yup I've used both GoGroove BlueVibe EBX and Klipsch Image ONE Bluetooth headphones.
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I bought them in the apple store $129.00
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Damm, thought that might have been the case. Im in Australia, they haven't bothered releasing them here yet.
i use two different bluetooth headphones
the LG tone at work and the Yurbuds inspired wireless for the gym
sucks tho, that i bought the yurbuds for 180 and now they are 130
albert1500 said:
i use two different bluetooth headphones
the LG tone at work and the Yurbuds inspired wireless for the gym
sucks tho, that i bought the yurbuds for 180 and now they are 130
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What do you think of the Yurbuds wireless?
Im looking for some bluetooth buds. I have a pair of the wired pro ones and like them for running, but they dont have the best music quality though.
memphisraynz said:
Damm, thought that might have been the case. Im in Australia, they haven't bothered releasing them here yet.
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There were released march 18 and apple was the first store too get them
memphisraynz said:
What do you think of the Yurbuds wireless?
Im looking for some bluetooth buds. I have a pair of the wired pro ones and like them for running, but they dont have the best music quality though.
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i really like them for working out or running. they stay in place. the only con i have about them is that if you wear them with the cord behind your neck sometimes they can get caught when turning your head certain ways. to avoid that now i just wear them with the cord to the front. doesnt look as cool lol but cant feel anything but the buds in your ears. the sound quality is decent. one big thing i loved about these tho is that when you're wearing them it doesnt feel like you're covering your ears with your hands and can hear everything like footsteps or anything rubbing up against you. i originaly bought some jaybirds and they did exactly that, it was just too annoying for the price i had paid. i could hear my footsteps in my head and the cord rubbing up against my neck, you had to put the music too loud to try and cover the noises but you could always hear it
Great, thanks for all the replies guys.
I got myself a Plantronics BackBeat GO 2 Bluetooth Earbuds and they worked amaizingly with all the buttoms features it has, they are like 8 diferent combos for calls and etc.
I would really recommend this if anyone is looking for great bluetooth earbuds. :highfive:
I'm using the Outdoor Technology Bluetooth Tags with Play Music.
Jaybird Freedom JF3
they work perfectly... even though they're a bit older now and kind of bulky