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UPDATE: I've found a fix for this issue - AWESOME!
Just go to the Android Market and install the SMS Time Fix app by Matt Precious.
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-mattprecious-smsfix-pAFq.aspx
It works perfectly, and updates the time stamp on all messages to relfect PHONE time and not network time. HINT: Make sure the "Last Resort" option is checked in the settings and offset is set to zero. This little app now makes the Evo Messages app usable. Finally...
Hope this is helpful info
So, I've been reading and experiencing several issues with SMS timestamps on the Evo 4G.
It seems there are three distinct issues with SMS timestamps on the the Evo and I believe they all have the same root cause.
Issue 1: When roaming texts are received with the wrong time stamp, offset by several hours (typically 4 or 5 hours off). This causes them to not be threaded in the conversation correctly. Very annoying.
Issue 2: When receiving SMS messages on any network (Sprint or Roaming), the time stamp is off by an hour. The result is the same as Issue 1, but a less extreme example.
Issue 3: When texting back and forth in quick succession, SMS messages are not logged in the order in which they are received, and received text messages ALWAYS appear before sent text messages if they are sent during the same minute, regardless of which one was actually sent first. This is also very annoying.
I believe the root cause is that the native Sense UI messaging app is using the timestamp of the tower of each SMS rather than using the time stored on the phone. To prove this, if you use Handcent and set it to use "phone time" and ignore the tower time, it works perfectly. The thing is that I don't want to use Handcent and I want to use the native app. Is there a setting that can be tweaked to fix this? Has anyone talked to HTC or Sprint about the issue and is a fix in the works?
For such a major problem, I am surprised more people haven't come forward. It's a pretty significant bug...
Thanks,
Matt_TX.
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I agree and its getting really annoying since it causes me to miss texts.
NM, too easy
Has anyone talked to Sprint or HTC about it? I am sure there HAS to be a fix in the works. The good news is that the native Froyo messaging app does not do this (as far as I can tell). I used a Nexus One on T-mobile and it doesn't occur. It appears to be using the phone's timestamp, as it should...
As long as HTC don't apply their "logic" (or lack thereof) over Froyo, it should be fixed soon.
I also can't believe that Sense UI stops the user from having more than one Exchange account. Android 2.1 (Eclair) does this by default. Why on earth would they remove it?
Anyway, back on topic... Please please post with your thoughts and discoveries around the SMS timestamp issue.
Thanks!
How is this related to development?
tkrechel said:
NM, too easy
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I'm not sure what you mean by "NM, too easy". Can you explain or provide any insight. Please help if you can. For those of us with this issue, it's REALLY annoying. I apologize if the question is dumb and there is an easy fix.
I realize that some of you may not feel that it is related to development, but I disagree. For those geniuses out there that make ROM's, maybe there is some way to fix this with a setting or minor change in the Sense UI messaging app...
Additionally, there is no need to berate someone that's genuinely asking for help. It's obvious that this forum gets the most traffic, and it's obvious that the smartest "Evo User" minds are located here. I don't think there is any harm in reaching out for help, isn't that the purpose behind these forums
The samething was happening to me last night.
Sent From My HTC EVO 4G
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Agreed. If its not happening with Handcent nor the AOSP apk, then its a direct HTC issue.
General Discussion. Also, probably not really that urgent.
./agree on all poins with OP.
I posted in Q&A about this same issues, with no replies 8(.
Anyway, I thought it was related to the modified prl that I installed. However it would do it even when I was on the stock prl.
Long story short, I called sprint and said I was having the issue. They said they were going to refresh something on their side, to wait 20 mins then power cycle the phone.
Did that and to my surprise it worked! Then yesterday I re-flashed a custom rom and the sms timestaps went all wonky. /sigh
suck it up and use handcent or chomp, they are overall better apps, just not as nice of a UI.
this has been a problem for quite some time. I've looked everywhere for a solution. This was a problem on winmo phones as well.
I switched to handcent and never looked back. Once you get it all customized, it's awesome.
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suck it up and use handcent or chomp, they are overall better apps, just not as nice of a UI.
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look at this guy.
handcent didn't work on my froyo rom, not sure about chomp, didn't try it.
at work i always have this problem, texts are recieved 5 hours into the future, whereas the ones i send are the correct time. occasionally ones they send are the correct time so i have to scroll up and down and it is very annoying.
not a fan of handcents pop up notifications, i guess i could turn em off.
guess i'll just 'suck it up'
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this has been a problem for quite some time. I've looked everywhere for a solution. This was a problem on winmo phones as well.
I switched to handcent and never looked back. Once you get it all customized, it's awesome.
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yup, had the same problem on my old HTC Diamond with Sense/TF3d on it.
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Is it just me, or is the SMS screen a bit jerky and slow? I do have a 1000+ messages in there, but I can't imagine why it would make the scrolling so poor.
Hes got looooooooads of mates...
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Hes got looooooooads of mates...
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Actually it's almost 3 years worth of messages (transferred it from phone to phone).
Anyone else experiencing similar issues?
I had to factory reset my phone because of this a couple of days back. My contacts went blank and I could barely load the messages.
I can confirm this. Scrolling through sms is laggy and not very responsive. Even in threads with only less than 10 messages. So annoying...
Mines always been like that :-( grown to put up with it
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doesn't froyo fix this?
If you let your message count get that high, then you're bound to encounter speed loss with the app. Try clearing your messages? Unless you need to know what happened 3 years ago?
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If you let your message count get that high, then you're bound to encounter speed loss with the app.
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Technically no. They should have dealt with performance issues with a high volume of text messages. I work within software development, and something like this would most certainly raise a red flag.
Hey sorry to raise a thread from the dead.
My Messages app now runs extremely slowly - can take 5-10 seconds to load an SMS thread and sometimes lags when i'm typing a reply.
Sounds like other people have experienced similar issues. Does anyone have any suggestions for fixing this? It's almost certainly down to having a large number of messages in the thread (over 3,500 from this one contact for reasons i won't go into!) but surely with a modern smartphone it should be able to handle lots of text messages! My iPhone with 2 years worth of messages had no such issues.
One other issue - for no reason whatsoever it somtimes jumps me back up to the very top of the thread of texts meaning i either have to spend ages scrolling down or back up and reload it go get it to show the most recent ones. Anyone else experienced this?
I dont have any issues with lag etc but i second the jump-to-top issue.. its happening once a day for sure and im sooo sick of it! Anyone knows anything?
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So just as an update on my woes - my phone on Friday randomly wiped every single one of my text messages. I reset the phone but nothing came back.
Great.
On the plus side, messages is now running very fast. But seriously, a smartphone that can't handle lots of text messages (which are surely microscopic in file size) is just pathetic.
A person who can't be bothered to store extra messages seperatly is pathetic. There are apps to store/back up messages and if you are constantly referencing 2 year old messages you need help.
Just my opinion though.
I realise your comments aren't targeted at me but perhaps rather than just insulting someone's choices you could actually be helpeful and tell them the names of the apps you talk of.
Not even going to bother addressing the insular comments.
Search "SMS backup" on the market. There are lots and lots of apps. "Backup to gmail" is one I saw that looks good. I personally don't news or use any backup solution for SMS.
Hello all,
I'm really sorry if this is the wrong place to post this,
but i'm just so frustrated right now and I can't find anywhere else.
So I got my Touch Pro 2 about 6 or 7 months ago. It worked perfectly
for the first few weeks. Then every now and then when I went in and
out of messages a little to often it would brick and I would be forced to
reset it. It kept getting worse. I have to use the quick message (type contact
every time) because i'm afraid going into the threaded message view will brick the phone. The reset count is getting ridiculous. Today alone I have had to reset it four times.
I've noticed in the past month it has been lacking facebook compatibility and
me trying to figure out why has resulted in it bricking many times.
First of all, when i first got the phone i linked all my friends' profiles and set up their profile pictures. But when i added new contacts I couldn't add their facebook account. And I haven't been able to update pictures from friends
that are already connected. So today i decided to hit the logout button on
Data connections. It logged me out and then i logged back in to find most
of the connection between people and facebook entirely gone and all of the profile pictures gone.
All in all it's just plain ridiculous that I can't A - message properly or B - use the facebook compatibility, both of which are things that should just work and not brick my phone. I really hope there is some setting or registry value I can tweak to make it all better. But i realise that is naive so i won't get my hopes up.
Thanks in advance,
Ben
Realistically the only real fix for that is to just back it all up and do a hard reset (wiping it back to the default configuration). It'll be back to how it was when you got it.
Alternatively you may wish to install a HardSPL and flash a new (better?) ROM instead, but that's up to you. Either way it'll require a hard reset though.
first go here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550131
then pick from one of the roms posted. see which one you prefer. i use energy cookie. ive heard great things about its facebook and twitter apps. messaging itself is on point as well.
heres a link to some roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562773
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=617142
Have you read this terrible notice from engadget.com?
Android still has horrible text messaging bugs that'll get you fired, busted, or otherwise embarrassed
By Chris Ziegler posted Dec 31st 2010 1:12PM
Pardon us if the headline is a little sensational, but this is one that we've personally experienced -- and it's not pretty. For at least the last couple versions, Android has been plagued with a couple extremely serious bugs in its text messaging subsystem that can ultimately end up causing you to text the wrong contact -- even contacts that you've never texted before. There appear to be a few failure modes; the one we definitely experience on the Gingerbread-powered Nexus S involves being routed to the wrong thread when you tap it either in the Notifications list or the master thread list in the Messaging application, so if you don't notice, you'll end up firing a message to the wrong person.
More seriously, though, there's also an open issue in Android's bug tracking system -- inexplicably marked "medium" priority -- where sent text messages can appear to be in the correct thread and still end up being sent to another contact altogether. In other words, unless you pull up the Message Details screen after the fact, you might not even know the grievous act you've committed until your boss, significant other, or best friend -- make that former best friend -- texts you back. There seem to have been some attempts on Google's part over the year to fix it; we can't confirm that it still happens in 2.3, but for what it's worth, the issue hasn't been marked resolved in Google Code... and it was opened some six months ago.
This is akin to an alarm clock that occasionally won't go off (we've been there) or a car that randomly won't let you turn the steering wheel -- you simply cannot have a phone that you can't trust to communicate with the right people. It's a deal-breaker. We're pretty shocked that these issues weren't tied up and blasted to all affected phones as an over-the-air patch months ago, but whatever the reason, we'd like to see Google, manufacturers, and carriers drop every other Android update they're working on and make sure this is completely resolved immediately.
Want to see this fixed as much as we do? Scroll to the bottom of the Google Code page and hit "Vote for this issue and get email change notifications."
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Never had any issue with this...
Maybe, it happens only on the default Google sms app not the HTC one.
I've often sent 2 - 3000 text messeges a month with two diffrent devices over the last 18 months and never had this problem. on the otherhand engadget are known for chatting sensationalist rubbish, only to have to apologise later in an editorial.
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Maybe, it happens only on the default Google sms app not the HTC one.
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I have experienced this with the HTC messaging one. When I individually texted "Happy new year!!" to everyone, the bug happened twice and it actually sent to someone else.
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I've often sent 2 - 3000 text messeges a month with two diffrent devices over the last 18 months and never had this problem. on the otherhand engadget are known for chatting sensationalist rubbish, only to have to apologise later in an editorial.
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is not sensationalism, is an actual big ugly bug.
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is not sensationalism, is an actual big ugly bug.
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If it's a bug, then why have I not encountered it since owning this phone for 7 months?
It could be a stock Android problem as already mentioned (HTC Sense ROMs have a different messaging application).
I found a post in the discuss thread where a guy explain how to reproduce this *bug*:
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If anyone is interested, evidently "Darth Mo" has been able to replicate it - found in ACentral Forums - entire post follows;
"It's not user error, or at least it's a combination of user technique and a possible design. It has to do with how the stock messaging app interacts with the Android system notification.
I recreated it this way. Open a text, but only from the notification bar. You will be taken directly to the conversation from that contact. Now, just hit the home button to get back to the home screen. Repeat this four times to let the open conversations build up. We'll call the earliest contact 1, the next 2, etc. for this example. Let's say you converse with these contacts over some time so that messages occur in this chronological order (opened from the notification menu if possible) : 1, you, 2, you, 3, you, 4, you, 1, 3, you, 3.
Now, you've read the message from contact 3, but quickly hit the back button because you need to send a message to contact 4. So you're back at the conversation list and select conversation 4. You compose and send your message and off you go. But, what can actually happen is that your message went to contact 1 because there is a bug that when you use the back button, it will take you to the conversation screen and when you select one, it will take you to the conversation with the last "unreplied" message received before the last conversation you didn't reply to, regardless of the one you actually select from the list. It's easy to miss that it took you to the wrong conversation as the on screen info can take a beat to update and it looks like you've select the right conversation. The kicker is the conversation list does highlight the one you meant to select, but will take you to that other conversation. It's as if it's saying, "Hey, I know you want to go to that one, but you opened this message and jumped out of it without replying. Maybe you didn't see it."
It's pretty easy for people to not have seen this for a few reasons:
1. You open messages directly from the messaging app
2. You close out every conversation using the back button and don't let them build up on top of each other
3. Messages can come in such a sequence that the conditions are never correct
4. It has actually happened, only the last "unreplied" message was from the conversation you actually intended to enter
I was able to create reliably using my Google voice number to send myself text and watched it bounce around conversations seemingly randomly. It was only when I looked at the times of each message with no replies that I saw what it was doing actually had order to it.
About 30 minutes of experimentation to figure it out, but I had to know how this was happening as I could see it leading to an egregious error later. Now to explain it to HTC..."
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i've never had this either - i use handcent
Since a few minutes ago, the issue is considered critical instead of of medium:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9392#c794
Are kiddin me?
I dont send any sms for a while , this is a very big issue !
It never happened to me but , this is a realy really big bug!
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If it's a bug, then why have I not encountered it since owning this phone for 7 months?
It could be a stock Android problem as already mentioned (HTC Sense ROMs have a different messaging application).
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why havent you encountered it? i have no frikking clue and i dont care.
fortunately now it is a critical bug.
btw, i just care about android stock problems, im not using that sense stuff.
I quite often get messages which are meant for other people from someone who has a samsung galaxy (seems that's it's a copy of the message, rather than it being sent to the wrong sender).
I don't text as much, so less prone to the error.
happened to me on stock Android. Never on HTC Sense or mod
I have actually had this bug... but it reported the message had gone to the wrong person, but the correct person replied so I assumed it was reporting it wrong.... only happened twice.
on stock rom unrooted desire
I'm using a stock ROM & native SMS. I get this bug quite a few times.
I'm working in a very loud environment, so I send & receive lots & lots of text messages.
I notice that when i have lots of threaded messages, the SMS starts to slow down & sooner or later the bug will cause me send a text to the wrong recipient.
I'm quite careful of what I'm sending now.
HTC & they told me to reset the phone.
It hasn't been fun for me since I have to reset the phone once a month because my threaded sms buildup very quickly...
I'll update to 2.29.405.5 to see if this fixes anything.
Guys,
Is the 'wrong' person who receives the message someone in your phonebook or a total stranger. If it'd someone you don't know... how does your phone pick that number up? Randomly?
I had my Desire since April, and never had this issue. I open texts from notification bar and have sent them frequently.
I've had a G1, Magic, Milestone and now a Desire and I've never experienced this at all.
I don't think this bug is very common... I've never experienced it myself and none of my android friends have either...
Just some evil forces trying to make the Android OS look bad. Not our fault they couldn't resist taking a bite of that apple so screw them!
Overblown sensationalism AKA typical journalism. It's a bug but seldom a problem encountered by users, or XDA-Dev would've been flooded with such problem threads long before such publicity sites noticed. Just me personally having switched between over a dozen ROMs/kernels and their versions since March with over 60 average text out per day since and not one occurrence means it isn't anything but rare. I rely on SMS very much daily.
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Long time User, First Time Poster. Lol. And Because Of My Lurking and no Posting, I Couldnt ask this Question In The Thread. Definitely More Incentive To Start getting Involved In These Forums. Any ways:
I'm experiencing an Issue with Randomly deleted Text messages With this Rom. Especially When I've Received Multiple Messages, That Have remained Unread. Lets Say for Example I've Received a 2 part text. 2 Messages Are there, But when i go to read, the first half is missing. Also, I Use An App, "SMS Popup", So It Could Be the Combination of the app and the rom, I guess. But the app has never malfunctioned in this way before across previous ROMS I've Used. After I Experienced Numerous Deleted Texts yesterday, I've uninstalled The app to Test This theory. I Was Unable to Find any other postings in the Thread mentioning any similar Issues, So I Figured it should be brought to attention, And hopefully fixed. Thank you for your Time, And I'll report back My Own Findings Tomorrow When I've Gone through the Day without SMS Pop Up.
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Long time User, First Time Poster. Lol. And Because Of My Lurking and no Posting, I Couldnt ask this Question In The Thread. Definitely More Incentive To Start getting Involved In These Forums. Any ways:
I'm experiencing an Issue with Randomly deleted Text messages With this Rom. Especially When I've Received Multiple Messages, That Have remained Unread. Lets Say for Example I've Received a 2 part text. 2 Messages Are there, But when i go to read, the first half is missing. Also, I Use An App, "SMS Popup", So It Could Be the Combination of the app and the rom, I guess. But the app has never malfunctioned in this way before across previous ROMS I've Used. After I Experienced Numerous Deleted Texts yesterday, I've uninstalled The app to Test This theory. I Was Unable to Find any other postings in the Thread mentioning any similar Issues, So I Figured it should be brought to attention, And hopefully fixed. Thank you for your Time, And I'll report back My Own Findings Tomorrow When I've Gone through the Day without SMS Pop Up.
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I just posted the same II've experience this problem with that rom as well as Kingdom REVOLUTION and Mik Rom..basiaclly roms with sense 3.0 implementations. Ive tried several diff ways to get rid of the problem...none have worked.
Methods I tried:
Restoring all apps from market (dont use titanium backup)
Use only the stock mms app
a2sd lowmem-default