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Hi Fellow Members from all over the World:
If you knew all the Desire HD issues before you buy it/upgrade, would have you bought it/upgraded?
Please post your comments and share youir experience!
I thought this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817464 was dealing with this topic (backwards from your) very well ...why create another one?
not in the slighest i thought it was good to start with but today after some searching it was brought to life
M_T_M said:
I thought this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817464 was dealing with this topic (backwards from your) very well ...why create another one?
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Mine is general AND has a poll, the other one is too specific and restrictive: proximity sensor and battery. In mine, you can vote and eventually explain why. That's why I created a new thread.
Absolutely not.
I had the nexus one before and thought DHD would be my secondary phone (I have to have two) but after playing with it for one hour I switched sim cards and never looked back.
One word - screen. When I look at the nexus screen now it looks like a toy.
Although I am a bit irritated about the speaker quality.
kuba1410 said:
Absolutely not.
I had the nexus one before and thought DHD would be my secondary phone (I have to have two) but after playing with it for one hour I switched sim cards and never looked back.
One word - screen. When I look at the nexus screen now it looks like a toy.
Although I am a bit irritated about the speaker quality.
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agreed, the speaker quality is terrible and so low
Hell no this phone rocks.
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By the way, I'll vote and answer when I get mine. I pre-ordered mine as I'm due to an upgrade and they said I'll get it tomorrow but I know the demand for the DHD is so high that it might take longer.
who knows said:
agreed, the speaker quality is terrible and so low
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Isn't it? You would expect more from a flagship phone and boasting "Dolby Mobile" and "SRS", the nexus one had none of these and although the speakers were rubbish too, they still where better then those on the DHD.
Absolutely not! I got mine yesterday & I LOVE it. I cant stop playing with it
Ignoring the battery issue (it's getting better after few charge cycles though), I don't regret it all.
today i took mine out for a solo test run for the first time. came off charge at 10am and 12 hours later has 35% battery, after 45 minutes of gps, 3 hours of wifi internet and and hour of angry birds. oh and 3 phone calls. thats not bad. this is after 8 complete charge cycles done over 4 days. when you use it heavily it dies quick, but pace yourself and it does juuuust fine.
the camera is shockingly bad though. white balance is terrible, focusing in anything but perfect light is crap, and the image quality is questionable.
and the ear speaker volume is a little quiet for calls in loud environments, but its CLEAR. i had no problems hearing what the other person was saying, even in a noisy cafe.
I'm not really shure if I would have bought it and these are the reasons why:
battery life is not that good, although I expected this so it's not really a reason, though I'd like to mention it
"Locations" only works with data connection, so what's the use of preloaded maps then? I want to see my location without having a data connection (when roaming abroad) but this is not possible, why not? such a shame. This should be possible. I even think it's ridicoulously easy to implement in a firmware update, though I wouldn't really know
Speaker is absolutely useless. I never hear it when it's in my pocket and to make matters worse, the vibrator is not one of the best either. It makes a lot more noise than it should and it just vibrates fast, not hard. The lower the frequency and the bigger the amplitude of the vibration, the harder you feel it. Every phone in this price range I ever had, had a better vibrator
camera quality is very disappointing. On the DHD's screen it all looks very nice and crisp, untill you copy the shot to your pc, bummer... I was expecting a serious improvement in quality, coming from an iPhone 3GS but sadly this is not true
setting up the dlna to work (if compatible, which it is rarely!) is harder than running to the store, buying a Nokia N8 + hdmi cable, transfer some movies to it and connect it to your tv. So, kinda useless...
is it really that much trouble to install a LED notification light that you can actually see from an angle?
Ok, flash in the browser works, but how... it's slow and laggy
to sum it up, the DHD is still a fantastic phone, but to me a flagship device should excell on EVERY field, or at least be way above average on every field. This means GPS solution + speaker + camera... everything! And it just doesn't, not even by a long shot.
Honestly I was expecting more from the DHD
for the moment I'm keeping it because I still feel there is no phone out there that can offer me this much, but as soon as Symbian revamps their UI, I'm going back to Nokia. On the insides, S60 is still a very good OS and I love it for its possibilities but sadly it looks like crap and we're too spoiled by iOS and Android to go back there...
kuba1410 said:
Isn't it? You would expect more from a flagship phone and boasting "Dolby Mobile" and "SRS", the nexus one had none of these and although the speakers were rubbish too, they still where better then those on the DHD.
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Dolby is when you use headset not the speaker
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kuba1410 said:
Absolutely not.
I had the nexus one before and thought DHD would be my secondary phone (I have to have two) but after playing with it for one hour I switched sim cards and never looked back.
One word - screen. When I look at the nexus screen now it looks like a toy.
Although I am a bit irritated about the speaker quality.
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Same here. And the colors on the N1 look way overdone. I don't even like to look at it. I read so much on the bad speaker, but I must say I think I have one the better ones I guess. The loudspeaker on mine is very good. I can make too loud sometimes. No distortion at any level. I actually like it. Better than my N1.
The phone arrived four days ago. No regrets yet...
Greenjinky said:
Absolutely not! I got mine yesterday & I LOVE it. I cant stop playing with it
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i bet you do
I've had this phone three weeks (I guess that makes me an old timer) and even now despite the much documented issues of speaker, battery life I can still say not only do I have no regrets, it's the best phone I have ever had.
matthiasdeblaiser said:
I'm not really shure if I would have bought it and these are the reasons why:
battery life is not that good, although I expected this so it's not really a reason, though I'd like to mention it
"Locations" only works with data connection, so what's the use of preloaded maps then? I want to see my location without having a data connection (when roaming abroad) but this is not possible, why not? such a shame. This should be possible. I even think it's ridicoulously easy to implement in a firmware update, though I wouldn't really know
Speaker is absolutely useless. I never hear it when it's in my pocket and to make matters worse, the vibrator is not one of the best either. It makes a lot more noise than it should and it just vibrates fast, not hard. The lower the frequency and the bigger the amplitude of the vibration, the harder you feel it. Every phone in this price range I ever had, had a better vibrator
camera quality is very disappointing. On the DHD's screen it all looks very nice and crisp, untill you copy the shot to your pc, bummer... I was expecting a serious improvement in quality, coming from an iPhone 3GS but sadly this is not true
setting up the dlna to work (if compatible, which it is rarely!) is harder than running to the store, buying a Nokia N8 + hdmi cable, transfer some movies to it and connect it to your tv. So, kinda useless...
is it really that much trouble to install a LED notification light that you can actually see from an angle?
Ok, flash in the browser works, but how... it's slow and laggy
to sum it up, the DHD is still a fantastic phone, but to me a flagship device should excell on EVERY field, or at least be way above average on every field. This means GPS solution + speaker + camera... everything! And it just doesn't, not even by a long shot.
Honestly I was expecting more from the DHD
for the moment I'm keeping it because I still feel there is no phone out there that can offer me this much, but as soon as Symbian revamps their UI, I'm going back to Nokia. On the insides, S60 is still a very good OS and I love it for its possibilities but sadly it looks like crap and we're too spoiled by iOS and Android to go back there...
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Very good points dude.
mancuk29 said:
Dolby is when you use headset not the speaker
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Didn't know that, any way, this till makes you think that speakers have some quality to them.
bobbyphoenix said:
Same here. And the colors on the N1 look way overdone. I don't even like to look at it. I read so much on the bad speaker, but I must say I think I have one the better ones I guess. The loudspeaker on mine is very good. I can make too loud sometimes. No distortion at any level. I actually like it. Better than my N1.
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Actually, the my first impression was: Nice, big screen, but the colors are off.
I had a black wallpaper on my N1, put the same on DHD and it looked bleached.
After over one week of usage I have no reservations as to the colors, the screen is pure brilliance, I am never going back to a <4.3" screen.
You must be lucky with the speaker. Youtube is nigh unusable without headphones.
I'm curious about the experiences of anyone who directly upgraded from the Droid X to the Galaxy Nexus?
I liked my Droid X from the start, but I didn't love it. Some of the things I didn't like, I just got use too and other things were addressed by updates and switching roms.
1) Screen was hard to impossible to read on a sunny day. Been improved between updates.
How is the Galaxy Nexus screen on a bright day?
2) Phone's speaker and ringtone volume was better on my blackberry storm, than the Droid X.
How would you compare the Galaxy Nexus's speaker and ringtone volume to the X ?
3) How would you compare your battery life between the Droid X and the Nexus? Please specify, if your on stock or which rom.
These are a few points of interest, but I would be interested in other comparisons. I am clear that Ice Cream sandwich is the best feature of Galaxy Nexus. I am clear that the specs are better on the Nexus. I'm interested in specifics in how the Galaxy Nexus has improved your personal user experience or not, compared to the Droid X?
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Screen is fine in the sun. Found that out today. Speakers are average.
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@rbiter said:
Screen is fine in the sun. Found that out today. Speakers are average.
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Fine, meaning better or the same?
" Speakers are average", meaning the same as the X ? A little better/ worse? Insignificant or noticeable?
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My guess is that very few people have upgraded from the DroidX to the Galaxy Nexus. Why? Because it's not *out* for Verizon yet.
justifi said:
Fine, meaning better or the same?
" Speakers are average", meaning the same as the X ? A little better/ worse? Insignificant or noticeable?
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Hi,
I don't have the Droid X but I have had the motorola milestone (international version of the droid) and the speakers are not loud enough by all means. I would never expected such a low level of quietness from the Galaxy Nexus, but I don't use the speaker that much so it isn't too much of an issue to me. However, when watching movies in a fairly loud room is virtually impossible with the speakers on the GN. Also, while playing some games, I end up blocking some sound off the speakers accidentally by placing my hands on the speaker grill (e.g. while trying to turn the boat in riptide)
I haven't tried the screen in broad daylight, but I have heard from someone that XDA it's fine on full brightness.
As for the battery life, I'm currently on the stock rom, and it isn't too bad. With moderate use I can get a day or over but I have only had the GN for a few days so I have been using it quite extensively.
hotleadsingerguy said:
My guess is that very few people have upgraded from the DroidX to the Galaxy Nexus. Why? Because it's not *out* for Verizon yet.
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I assumed that people in England had access to the Droid X since it's release and there are others in the states that imported the GSM version. Their experience would give me a ball park idea of what I'm likely to encounter, once it's been released. The Lite version is not supposed to be drastically different. Battery life and speed, should be the only significant difference. I'll still have better idea from what they have to say, than I do now.
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mohitrocks said:
Hi,
I don't have the Droid X but I have had the motorola milestone (international version of the droid) and the speakers are not loud enough by all means. I would never expected such a low level of quietness from the Galaxy Nexus, but I don't use the speaker that much so it isn't too much of an issue to me. However, when watching movies in a fairly loud room is virtually impossible with the speakers on the GN. Also, while playing some games, I end up blocking some sound off the speakers accidentally by placing my hands on the speaker grill (e.g. while trying to turn the boat in riptide)
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Now that could hurt! If I recall an update in froyo helped with the volume on my X. It still not great, but good enough in most cases. I hope that google is aware and can improve it in an update.
mohitrocks said:
I haven't tried the screen in broad daylight, but I have heard from someone that XDA it's fine on full brightness.
As for the battery life, I'm currently on the stock rom, and it isn't too bad. With moderate use I can get a day or over but I have only had the GN for a few days so I have been using it quite extensively.
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How much time did you get on your milestone compared to your nexus on similar usage?
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justifi said:
2) Phone's speaker and ringtone volume was better on my blackberry storm, than the Droid X.
How would you compare the Galaxy Nexus's speaker and ringtone volume to the X ?
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It seems the Galaxy Nexus has a speakerphone that is way on the quiet side.
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justifi said:
1) Screen was hard to impossible to read on a sunny day. Been improved between updates.
2) Phone's speaker and ringtone volume was better on my blackberry storm, than the Droid X.
3) How would you compare your battery life between the Droid X and the Nexus? Please specify, if your on stock or which rom.
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I actually upgraded from the DX to the GNex today. Or was it yesterday? I'm not sure at this point, its late.
I had to turn off auto brightness on the GNex to read it in desert noon sunlight, but once I maxed it out, it was perfectly readable, and I didn't have to create any "hand shade" like I did with my DX
So far, the speaker is a disappointment for me. I can barely hear the clicking sound during locking and unlocking, and notifications are a bit quieter. It's definitely quieter than the DX.
*EDIT* A few minutes on Google led me back to XDA (god i love this site) where someone recommended an app called Volume+ to solve the speaker issue. The free version doesn't seem to have much of an effect on the speaker volume, but I purchased the full version for, I think, $1.62 and after a few minutes of playing, the speaker volume is now perfectly fine. Sucks that I have to spend more cash on this crazy expensive device, but whatever, in the end the problem is fixed for me.
Battery life, for me at least, was another red x, but further testing is warranted. Let me explain. When I got my GNex, the battery was about 50% full, as expected. After about 4 hours, it was down to around 25%, and I plugged it in for an hour and a half, give or take 15 minutes. When it came off, it was at 97% and lasted me another 9-10 hours or so before it hit 14% and warned me my batter was low. My DX would usually last me around 20 hours. Rooted, stock rom, overclocked to 1.3.
What you have to keep in mind is that my DX times were through normal usage, where as today my GNex suffered EXTREME usage. I was downloading apps, listening to Pandora, texting, browsing the web, playing with the camera, running speed tests, etc... And while I was doing all this, the screen brightness was at 100% which was so bright it eventually made my eyes hurt a bit. Checking the battery usage, the screen had chewed up around 70% of the battery, Android OS was around 20%, and the rest was divided up between god-knows what else. Tomorrow I'm going to try to play with it less, and leave the screen at around 30% and see what happens. I suspect it will be MUCH better.
A few other tid-bits to note. The DX was easier to hold at first, though I am finding myself more comfortable with the GNex as time passes. The whatever-they-call-it skin on the back of the GNex feels like silky plastic. It's nice, but still plastic and as such feels a bit slippery. It also doesn't stick to denim at all, which means it slid off my leg constantly while I was driving.
Please keep in mind after reading all this that I am nit-picking all the little details about this device that I'm not thrilled about. All in all, the GNex is light years beyond the DX. Just about every aspect of it is better. The camera is superior, the call quality is better, the screen is brighter, crisper, and has better contrast. Even the data speed (no LTE in my area yet, so 3G apples to 3G apples here) is about twice as fast.
Kaostick said:
Checking the battery usage, the screen had chewed up around 70% of the battery
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Thank you for sharing your initial experience with the GNX.
But be careful here. If you see 70% screen there on the battery usage, it means 70% of last discharge cycle was due to the screen being on. Not the screen eating whole 70% of the 100% full charge. Unless you mean you checked the further details of battery usage now-featured in ICS 4.0.
I also upgraded from the Droid X (Verizon) to the Galaxy Nexus (GSM on T-Mobile). Definitely in love with the screen, it's great in sunlight as long as you turn off auto brightness, like you said. I haven't used the speaker at all so I can't really comment but obviously you already know the answer to your question haha.
I have been using a Droid X (on CM7GB) and got the Galaxy Nexus yesterday. I still have my Droid X with me and activated. I have the extended battery on BOTH phones.
Observations:
#1 I had hoped that the screen would be easier to read on the Nexus, but it's not. The notification bar is TINY and unreadable for me. The icons are exactly the same size. The color depth on the Nexus is far superior.
#2 The X on CM7GB is a screamer and is faster than the Nexus to open apps. Speed is not a big issue for me, but I couldn't go back to stock X speeds.
#3 The in-call volume of the Nexus is much better than the X. Not even close.
#4 The speakerphone volume is about the same on both.
#5 The notification volume on the Nexus is bad.
#6 The battery life on the Nexus is BAD. I have the extended battery and can't make it 8 hours. On the Droid X I could go over 16 hours.
#7 I rarely use the camera or camcorder, but I do use the flashlight functions. The Droid X had dual LED's and the Nexus only one. I tested last night and expected the X to be brighter but it's not. The Nexus single LED is quite a bit brighter than the X and is much whiter light.
#8 The notification LED on the Nexus is hit and miss at best. Sometimes it works... sometimes not. I get about 200 text messages a day and never had a problem with this on the X. The blink rate is very slow on the Nexus so you can't just glance at the phone and see if you have a message waiting... you have to look for a second or two to see if the LED will flash.
#9 I HATE the way the Nexus has the three dots for Settings. You never know exactly where the dots will be. Much of the time they're at the top right of the screen and you can't do simple things like deleting a text message with one hand. As a matter of fact things like deleting a contact is much more complicated with the Nexus. I can't think of anything I couldn't do on the X one handed, but many things need two hands on the Nexus.
#10 The signal strength of the Nexus just plain sucks. I can't make or receive calls in many places I could with the X (or any other Verizon phone I've had). This is the #1 reason I will probably return the Nexus.
#11 I thought I really liked the hard buttons on the X, but I've quickly found out how much they slowed me down. I like the soft keys on the Nexus except the missing Settings key of course.
I really, really, really wanted to LOVE the Galaxy Nexus, but there are just too many key items that fall short for me. Other's may not have the problems. 3G vs 4G means nothing to me since I don't live or use my phone in a 4G area.
I'll keep the Nexus a few more days. I like the color depth of the screen... didn't realize how poor the X was in that respect. I thought maybe a RAZR would be a good compromise but the non-removable battery is a killer for me. Maybe the RAZR MAXX will be an improvement in a few weeks.
That's my opinion... your mileage may vary.
I upgraded from the Droid X as well. I was running a rooted stock Droid X on Gingerbread. It was slow and really just not that great.
I really can't say enough about how much I love the Nexus. But...
1. Yes, battery life seems to be about as good as my Droid X was. Keep in mind, I could go about half a day on my Droid X before needing a charge (mainly listening to music at work all day). So this doesn't bother me.
2. Antenna is sort of a hit or miss area for me. I work in an area that has spotty coverage (actually, I think there's an issue with the tower nearby...). Somedays I get full bars, somedays I get no bars. This happened on both the Droid X and Nexus. BUT, I don't have issues receiving calls.
3. The notification volume really is hit or miss for me. It's either WAY too loud, or entirely too soft that I don't hear it. I don't believe this is an issue with the actual speaker, I think it's an issue with the ICS settings. I also miss that on my Droid X I could set individual volumes for both incoming calls and notifications. I haven't found a way to do this in ICS yet.
4. The camera (which really is a HUGE selling point for me, I have a 11 month old son that I take pictures of all the time...the Droid X sucked big time for this) is just plain awesome. The fact that it takes the picture when you tell it, was enough reason for me to get this phone.
5. The screen, for me, is awesome. I have an Asus Transformer, and I'd wager it's as good as that screen (atleast when it comes to looking at it). I know, I'm comparing a Pentile to an IPS screen, but ya know what? They do compare well. I haven't had issues outside. I don't use the auto brightness feature because, to be perfectly honest, inside it was too dark, and outside it wasn't bright enough. I set it to max brightness and I'm ok with that.
6. I can actually watch 720P encoded videos, and well. This might seem stupid to some, but I do this during my lunch break. Honestly, my Asus Transformer had issues playing some of them because of high bitrates or high profile encoding (Tegra 2 sucks in this regard). This phone plays them perfectly fine, without an issue.
7. I really am starting to dig the whole ICS OS after using it for 2 days.
Honestly, if you are thinking about it, take 30 minutes and play with the phone. Decide what features you like and dislike. For me, the camera was a main selling point. And the fact that I don't have to wait 10 months for Motorola to finally release an updated firmware too..... Another thing I'd keep in mind is that if you're grandfathered into the Unlimited data plan, you can keep that data plan and upgrade to 4G here. Even if you don't have 4G in your area yet (like me), why not? Soon enough, most areas will have 4G and it'll be worth it.
CyberPunk7t9 said:
If you see 70% screen there on the battery usage, it means 70% of last discharge cycle was due to the screen being on.
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Aye, this is what I was trying to say, but it was late and my fingers weren't really talking to my head that well, or something like that.
Update from last nights post: I managed to use my GNex the way I would normally use my DX, and after turning the screen brightness down, the battery had no problem lasting me the day, at least until I got home. In the last 3 hours, somewhere around 50% of my total charge got eaten up with Android OS sitting at 34% VS Screen sitting at 21%. The phone itself is also slightly warm, despite sitting on the desk. Further investigation may be warranted.
Is google working on a fix, or are the speakers just not strong enough?
mohitrocks said:
I would never expected such a low level of quietness from the Galaxy Nexus...
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Is Google going to fix the speakerphone volume issue or is it just a hardware problem with low quality output speakers?
SamsungVibrant said:
Is Google going to fix the speakerphone volume issue or is it just a hardware problem with low quality output speakers?
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It's a known software issue. It will probably be fixed in the next update. Most popular temporary solution until the OTA is an app in the market called volume+ sound booster. My volume is now louder than my droid x.
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OK. I have upgraded from the Droid X to the Nexus.
To tell you the truth, the Droid X is a well made, well designed phone. I appreciate it now that i'm on the Nexus. Motorola really got the software tuned for the user.
I don't think you will like the Nexus. It is probably worst in all aspects compared to the DX. The speaker volume is lower, the battery life is lower, the build quality is lower, etc.
I am living with mine and hoping the battery bug in ICS will be fix soon.
Gasaraki- said:
OK. I have upgraded from the Droid X to the Nexus.
To tell you the truth, the Droid X is a well made, well designed phone. I appreciate it now that i'm on the Nexus. Motorola really got the software tuned for the user.
I don't think you will like the Nexus. It is probably worst in all aspects compared to the DX. The speaker volume is lower, the battery life is lower, the build quality is lower, etc.
I am living with mine and hoping the battery bug in ICS will be fix soon.
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Build quality is definitely not lowered. It may be plastic but it can take a beating. It is also so much lighter than a Droid X. Not to mention it comes with a unlockable boot loader. Something that the Droid X does not have.
Speaker? Volume+ it to +8. Volume is fine.
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Gasaraki- said:
OK. I have upgraded from the Droid X to the Nexus.
To tell you the truth, the Droid X is a well made, well designed phone. I appreciate it now that i'm on the Nexus. Motorola really got the software tuned for the user.
I don't think you will like the Nexus. It is probably worst in all aspects compared to the DX. The speaker volume is lower, the battery life is lower, the build quality is lower, etc.
I am living with mine and hoping the battery bug in ICS will be fix soon.
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Unlock your bootloader, root your phone, and flash AOKP rom combined with the Franco kernel. That will take care of your sound and battery life. The build quality?? Put a case on it and you won't even notice . LOL.
I promise you, if you do those things, most of your issues with the phone will be solved. This phone will shine from rooting & roming!
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i upgraded from a DX too and the only thing i'm really missing is my functional cardock.
I went into all ATT, BestBuy and RadioShack around the town and none had LG Nitro. In BestBuy they don't even have a mokup and guy I talked to thought the phone is not out yet.
So I was wondering, why is that? Maybe it's because the phone is so f.up hardware wise, and we should expect a recall?
AT&T is being quite funny about the Nitro. I ran into the same problem with it in Boston when it came out. No one had a display model or stock. I had to call around to 5 stores before I found one. No clue why that is.
Why what's wrong with the Nitro hardware-wise?
The AT&T store is the only one local that has it in stock. I bought mine at Best Buy, but it was a special order. Dunno why they aren't pushing the Nitro. What is messed up hardware wise?
Broken compass is a huge blow (for me), mic in headset that works on 4 different android phones doesn't work on nitro, notifications also don't play through headset.
Horrible battery life if you use phone more then just keeping it in standby. Oh and have usb port on top - is a nonsense!
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Broken compass is a huge blow (for me), mic in headset that works on 4 different android phones doesn't work on nitro, notifications also don't play through headset.
Horrible battery life if you use phone more then just keeping it in standby. Oh and have usb port on top - is a nonsense!
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Don't you already have the phone? Now you make it sound like you've never supported the phone, while you've been doing so from the beginning [email protected]
Compass is not broken, it just takes a while to find it's bearing (although the GPS catch is the fastest out there) Mic works perfectly on my headset (I use the Ultimate Ears TripleFi 10vi, and also tested it on the ibeats and beats pro and both worked fine). Notifications have always worked on every single headsets i used with this phone, with mic or no mic (sony, logitech, altec lansing, sennheiser, panasonic, etc). Battery life have improved in time over a months period, and now I just charged once and I can keep running the whole day using it for various things. And USB on top? works perfectly for me since I can line up the 3.5mm jack with the usb when I'm in the car and can put the phone in one of the cup holders. In case someone wants to mention the usb cover, it's not flimsy at all. as long as you don't try to yank it off, it does not even look like it will break anytime soon.
Now back to topic...I have a feeling AT&T might have some kind of an agreement with Samsung to promote their phones more aggressively over their other phones, maybe so they can get the Note and the Nexus in their roster. I actually noticed that AT&T makes no attempt to promote the LG phone other than during the announcement even from the first days it was released. In one of our malls here, there's 2 AT&T spots, one is a small kiosk, the other is a big store. Only the big store has it on display, and even now, 2 months later, the small kiosk still doesn't have it displayed. Same thing with a Radio Shack here in a town near me and in Brooklyn. I went in to look for possible cases for the phone, saw that there is no dummy phone shown, asked the guy where's the Nitro HD, and they're like huh? what phone? I had to speak to the manager and he said oh we do not carry that here.
I doubt it's hardware issue. If it was a battery issue, AT&T can issue a bigger better battery replacement instead of losing business. Or it could possibly be that they do not promote the phone to avoid having to deal with customer complaints about the battery, of course it only applies to those who don't wait and see how much better the battery is now. I still say it's something to do with an agreement with another maker.
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Don't you already have the phone? Now you make it sound like you've never supported the phone, while you've been doing so from the beginning [email protected]
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not quiet understand you there. Yes, from the day one I was bashing this phone for it's flaws, simply because it's not worth the $600 price tag. If it was sold for $200 in retail, I'd love it.
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Compass is not broken, it just takes a while to find it's bearing (although the GPS catch is the fastest out there)
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Really? Do you have anything to compare it with? I'd like to see how it works for you. For instance load up the google navigator and select "walk", then open the map and see how "you" will spin and point in all kind of directions while the phone is stays still.
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Mic works perfectly on my headset (I use the Ultimate Ears TripleFi 10vi, and also tested it on the ibeats and beats pro and both worked fine).
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Some headsets don't have problems, I agree, but some, that work on other phones don't work on Nitro. Lack of drivers? Maybe, I don't know, but it's a fact.
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Notifications have always worked on every single headsets i used with this phone, with mic or no mic (sony, logitech, altec lansing, sennheiser, panasonic, etc).
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Well, I'm not the only one experiencing this issue with at least email notifications.
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Battery life have improved in time over a months period, and now I just charged once and I can keep running the whole day using it for various things.
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Again, I'm comparing it to my use as I've been using 3 other phones in 4 years period, Nitro dies in 3 hours.
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And USB on top? works perfectly for me since I can line up the 3.5mm jack with the usb when I'm in the car and can put the phone in one of the cup holders.
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Perhaps, however don't expect any kind of gadgets such as docks or webtops for this phone. And do you know why they put that cover? It's to protect the usb port from dust and crap, because most people care the phone in their pockets, upside down...
Hmmm got home today at 9pm, looked at the phone and couldn't believe my eyes, it shows 4G LTE icon. Either I didn't notice it at 5pm or they added Tampa Bay to LTE network between 5 and 9 today...
Let's the throttling war begin
I just missed it! I was in St. Pete/Tampa over the weekend and was shocked they didn't have LTE (yes yes, I know they weren't on the short list of markets)... Congrats on getting it now! I live in Boston and work in NH and its such a huge difference in speed between HSPA (at work) and LTE (at home), its ridiculous.
All,
So this is my first foray into the Android world, coming from an iPhone 4 that I liked but have been bored with for quite some time.
First impressions are mostly positive. The phone is obviously built well and sits in the hand fine despite its large size. The screen is great - more than enough brightness, extremely crisp text and great colors. The thing is extremely fast - pretty much no lag that I can find, even when I turn on ECO mode. I just got it this afternoon and used it with the charge it had from the box, so I can't comment fully on battery life yet. But it seems to be power hungry so far, though that was doing a lot of initial syncing and keeping the screen on a good bit.
Camera, as several reviews said, is average at best.
If you have any questions about it, let me know and I'll give my findings. I do have a couple of issues, though:
1. The phone gets quite warm, even after the mystery update. And I'm talking about just surfing the net and downloading apps - no games or anything intensive at all. If you try to turn the display up past 80 or 90%, you get an alert saying "Unable to further brighten due to temperature increase. Try again later." While it's plenty bright at 50%, this is completely unacceptable. If they don't do something about that quickly, I'm probably returning it.
2. I can't find a way to disable LTE. I'm getting 25-30mbit down here in north Atlanta, but I won't need that a lot of the time. I'd prefer to put it on HSPA+ to save battery (and, presumably, keep the thing cool.)
3. Voice Dial stinks. It "gets" what I'm asking for through my Motorola Roadster 2 speakerphone about 20% of the time. This worked 90% of the time with my iPhone. Not sure if there's a better dialer, or if this will improve with Jelly Bean.
Any input appreciated. I'll probably root it tonight or tomorrow, so if anyone needs anything (safe) for bootloader purposes just let me know.
-A
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All,
So this is my first foray into the Android world, coming from an iPhone 4 that I liked but have been bored with for quite some time.
First impressions are mostly positive. The phone is obviously built well and sits in the hand fine despite its large size. The screen is great - more than enough brightness, extremely crisp text and great colors. The thing is extremely fast - pretty much no lag that I can find, even when I turn on ECO mode. I just got it this afternoon and used it with the charge it had from the box, so I can't comment fully on battery life yet. But it seems to be power hungry so far, though that was doing a lot of initial syncing and keeping the screen on a good bit.
Camera, as several reviews said, is average at best.
If you have any questions about it, let me know and I'll give my findings. I do have a couple of issues, though:
1. The phone gets quite warm, even after the mystery update. And I'm talking about just surfing the net and downloading apps - no games or anything intensive at all. If you try to turn the display up past 80 or 90%, you get an alert saying "Unable to further brighten due to temperature increase. Try again later." While it's plenty bright at 50%, this is completely unacceptable. If they don't do something about that quickly, I'm probably returning it.
2. I can't find a way to disable LTE. I'm getting 25-30mbit down here in north Atlanta, but I won't need that a lot of the time. I'd prefer to put it on HSPA+ to save battery (and, presumably, keep the thing cool.)
3. Voice Dial stinks. It "gets" what I'm asking for through my Motorola Roadster 2 speakerphone about 20% of the time. This worked 90% of the time with my iPhone. Not sure if there's a better dialer, or if this will improve with Jelly Bean.
Any input appreciated. I'll probably root it tonight or tomorrow, so if anyone needs anything (safe) for bootloader purposes just let me know.
-A
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Thanks for doing this, i too have and iphone 4, can you please tell me compared to the 4, how loud and clear is the speaker compared to the iphone 4? Thanks!
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All,
So this is my first foray into the Android world, coming from an iPhone 4 that I liked but have been bored with for quite some time.
First impressions are mostly positive. The phone is obviously built well and sits in the hand fine despite its large size. The screen is great - more than enough brightness, extremely crisp text and great colors. The thing is extremely fast - pretty much no lag that I can find, even when I turn on ECO mode. I just got it this afternoon and used it with the charge it had from the box, so I can't comment fully on battery life yet. But it seems to be power hungry so far, though that was doing a lot of initial syncing and keeping the screen on a good bit.
Camera, as several reviews said, is average at best.
If you have any questions about it, let me know and I'll give my findings. I do have a couple of issues, though:
1. The phone gets quite warm, even after the mystery update. And I'm talking about just surfing the net and downloading apps - no games or anything intensive at all. If you try to turn the display up past 80 or 90%, you get an alert saying "Unable to further brighten due to temperature increase. Try again later." While it's plenty bright at 50%, this is completely unacceptable. If they don't do something about that quickly, I'm probably returning it.
2. I can't find a way to disable LTE. I'm getting 25-30mbit down here in north Atlanta, but I won't need that a lot of the time. I'd prefer to put it on HSPA+ to save battery (and, presumably, keep the thing cool.)
3. Voice Dial stinks. It "gets" what I'm asking for through my Motorola Roadster 2 speakerphone about 20% of the time. This worked 90% of the time with my iPhone. Not sure if there's a better dialer, or if this will improve with Jelly Bean.
Any input appreciated. I'll probably root it tonight or tomorrow, so if anyone needs anything (safe) for bootloader purposes just let me know.
-A
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Thanks for the update. I was planning on picking one up tomorrow, but there seems to be more overwhelming negatives than positives from those that got theirs early. I think Google may have really dropped the ball on anointing LG as their official hardware vendor for the Nexus 4. There seems to be widespread overheating issues with the Nexus 4 which shares the exact same hardware as the Optimus G, sans LTE of course. Cause for concern of the reliability of the internal components as well as the glass back having cracked in 2 review units is pretty disheartening, think I'm going to hold off for now.
1. OG has auto bright limit. Proportionately with temp, phone apply bright limit. It is not a hardware trouble.
If your phone is too hot, return it.
2. Try *147359# at dial. It may show popup menu.
So far no problems, one thing is annoying - notification LED is on the power button, can't really see it, also doesn't stay on, just blinks once, kinda dumb.
So I really am liking this phone. Its not perfect, but its incredibly fast, has a great screen, and has some good customization possibilities.
Going to try Eco mode tomorrow to see how it performs and compare battery life. Seen some reviews that say it nearly doubles battery life, which would make it quite good.
The code mentioned above gave me an error, so I'm still looking for a way to turn off 4G.
As for the heat, I got that message in the parking lot at after I got it and again when it was plugged in, but its cool now on the couch.
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I've had no issues with the temp on mine as of now. But then again I set my brightness at 63%. My lite blinks more then once but it only blinks I think like every 30 seconds or so. I'm still watching that I could be wrong. Going to to a you tube review on this tomorrow. I will post it here and on the at&t optimus g forum as well. So far I'm loving this phone.
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I just switched from iphone 4 to this too and I gotta say it feels ridiculous looking at how small the iphone 4 screen is now after getting used to this.
For me the biggest complaints are the camera. I really don't like the quality and the other is the width. I can't get used to holding it. This is probably just a personal problem but it's feels too wide for me.
Other than that it's a great phone. Very fast sans project butter.
Oh n I don't think I can go back to iphone
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Agreed. The camera is average.
Back on the heat thing. For whatever reason, I haven't had any more heat problems since the first couple of days. No issues.
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Further overall impression after several days of use:
1. Battery life is so-so. Getting through a whole day is a 50/50 proposition, which is a significant drop from my old iPhone 4.
2. Camera, as mentioned, is mediocre.
3. Speed is still great.
4. Screen is still great.
5. Sound is pretty good, but not as good as iPhone 4. Signal from the headphone jack is a bit quieter than i4.
6. Internal speaker is kind of tinny and weak.
7. Voice calls over ear piece are plenty loud and sound good.
I really want to like this phone, but I'm coming up with some limitations. We'll see what happens with the development, which could help #1 and that's my biggest concern.
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I personally like the camera. Better then my sg3
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All I can say High Quality phone. And the software is sooo smooth
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Yeah, in liking it and will probably keep it. Just being very particular.
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Yeah, in liking it and will probably keep it. Just being very particular.
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Being "very particular" is good in my book. Thanks to everyone on this thread. I hope to see a lot more join in.
On the heat issue, based on my experience with my DInc...
Charging really heats the battery, so doing anything will lead towards overheating.
Holding it in your hand (the more skin contact the worse) or laying it on it's back (worse on a soft surface) prevents heat from escaping.
Releasing heat (IMO) is best done screen down, propped up against something, so that the phone is barely touching any surface. (Alternatively, lay it screen up on a cold hard surface, and move it periodically... contradicting my previous point.)
I'm itching to upgrade, but I'm waiting to see what's what. The LGOG is the current point of reference for all other droids out there. So I'm really hoping to hear many good things (esp. root and unlocked bootloader). But I also really want to hear all of the nitpicking details, because I expect "perfection" from everything. [OT] Yes, I am disappointed a lot of the time. After all, I'm using Microsoft at work and home. [/OT]
For the LED thing, do any market apps work on this?
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After a week
After owning this phone for about a week and using the Note 2, Galaxy s3, and the One X+ for a bit, I think this is the best phone out there as far as fluidity goes, and its not even on jelly bean. I wish I can rip off the camera on One X+ and glue it on the optimus G but oh well.
If you're holding out because its not perfect, you're right its not. But you'll be hard pressed to find a phone besting this in the 4.7" form factor for a while. Now if you want to go to a phablet, I would suggest you to try the Note 2 for a bit, but you have to make sure you don't wear skinny jeans, have big hands, are proud of yourself (people look at you when you hold it up to your head) or not scared of face cancer (it warms up your face like nothing when talking for a while). But it's a real great phone, I wish there was a Note 2 mini with the same specs.
Of course, there is the Nexus 4, which I got to play with once, for like 5 minutes, and that was awesome. Sadly, you know all about what it's missing, and personally, I thought that between Jelly Bean 4.2 and no microD or LTE, I would go sans Jelly Bean 4.2. I can live with Jelly bean 4.1.
I dropped my screen brightness about 5% each day till i got used to it and now my optimus G lasts longer and I have no problem looking at a < 40% screen brightness indoors. =/ It helps with the heat.. actually I don't feel much heat anymore either and I still dont use the eco mode. It would be nice if it could automatically use eco for less intensive things and then switch to full for games, but it seems to just stay at eco the whole time.
Hope this helps anyone being on the fence. Oh and I use atnt
I actually prefer my optimus g over my nexus. Better battery life. Plus I scores better on benchmarks.
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I actually prefer my optimus g over my nexus. Better battery life. Plus I scores better on benchmarks.
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Funny how that is even possible when internally it's identical?
A lot of people really like this phone. Wondering how it compares to the SG3 though?
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Funny how that is even possible when internally it's identical?
A lot of people really like this phone. Wondering how it compares to the SG3 though?
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They aren't identical. From an operation perspective they have different OS and different radio.
Seems like JB for phones isn't "fully baked" (or at least not for these LG devices). Anandtech got better performance out of the N4, when they chilled it in the freezer 1st.
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They aren't identical. From an operation perspective they have different OS and different radio.
Seems like JB for phones isn't "fully baked" (or at least not for these LG devices). Anandtech got better performance out of the N4, when they chilled it in the freezer 1st.
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True,what I really meant was same processor/ram, however much more to the phone. I want a phone today, however the N4 looks better in some ways the LGOG in more. If I wasn't sick i would be at AT&T or Best buy right now
What's going on guys, I'm having some serious issues with my HTC-10 I just got on Thursday from swappa... I'm trying to figure out if these issues are just software or if my phone is a dud...
Here are the issues:
1) Extremely bad cell reception, generally I have 1 bar, and rarely 2 bars and even maybe less than 5 times today I remember seeing 3 bars. I was getting this low reception in areas where I used to get maximum service.
2) When using ear-buds or other headsets for phone calls, the other person can barely hear me... if at all. It's bad enough that trying to use ear buds for a phone call is basically impossible.
3) While in speaker phone mode, the other person has an extremely hard time hearing me even if I am 5 inches away and speaking quite loud. Yet google can hear me for voice to text decently.
4) Randomly after a few hours of use, 2 cores of the processor seem to get stuck... they never drop below 1.8ghz, this just makes no sense to me... Why would 2 stay locked up so high? Two show something low like 377mhz or something, but the other 2 never drop below 1.8ghz. I noticed this because I was confused as to why the phone was suddenly very hot and the battery was draining extremely quickly. Like 1% per minute. O.O So i looked and found a setting in the rom I am using (Viper) that shows the Core's Frequencies in the Notification Drawer. Why is this happening?
5) The Audio output from the headphone jack is extremely good, mainly because the stereo separation is just fantastic. BUT... general sounds like ringtones and notification tones are just very weak. My previous daily driver, my oneplus one is just about 2x as loud. Maybe like 1.75x. It's very very noticeable (in a bad way) and I missed 2 calls and several sms messages today due to this.
6) This is the weirdest one... So... just for fun I was comparing the 10 and my oneplus one side by side, doing little "tests" by seeing who could open apps faster. And... the OnePlus One actually beats the 10 about half of the time... Wtf? We had 801, 805, 808, 810, and now 820. So that's Four Generations higher...yet sometimes slower? I'm not sure if this is a "problem" or not, I'm just shocked. The 10 lags in general scrolling times sometimes has this... strange touch delay, but in the OPO none of these issues exist even though the touch screen is off sometimes when typing. Uh... So unsure.
So anyway, can someone shed some light on this?
(update) I forgot to mention that my oneplus one also has this 2 stuck cores issue, but it's 1.2ghz... So I'm just at a loss here.
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What's going on guys, I'm having some serious issues with my HTC-10 I just got on Thursday from swappa... I'm trying to figure out if these issues are just software or if my phone is a dud...
Here are the issues:
1) Extremely bad cell reception, generally I have 1 bar, and rarely 2 bars and even maybe less than 5 times today I remember seeing 3 bars. I was getting this low reception in areas where I used to get maximum service.
2) When using ear-buds or other headsets for phone calls, the other person can barely hear me... if at all. It's bad enough that trying to use ear buds for a phone call is basically impossible.
3) While in speaker phone mode, the other person has an extremely hard time hearing me even if I am 5 inches away and speaking quite loud. Yet google can hear me for voice to text decently.
4) Randomly after a few hours of use, 2 cores of the processor seem to get stuck... they never drop below 1.8ghz, this just makes no sense to me... Why would 2 stay locked up so high? Two show something low like 377mhz or something, but the other 2 never drop below 1.8ghz. I noticed this because I was confused as to why the phone was suddenly very hot and the battery was draining extremely quickly. Like 1% per minute. O.O So i looked and found a setting in the rom I am using (Viper) that shows the Core's Frequencies in the Notification Drawer. Why is this happening?
5) The Audio output from the headphone jack is extremely good, mainly because the stereo separation is just fantastic. BUT... general sounds like ringtones and notification tones are just very weak. My previous daily driver, my oneplus one is just about 2x as loud. Maybe like 1.75x. It's very very noticeable (in a bad way) and I missed 2 calls and several sms messages today due to this.
6) This is the weirdest one... So... just for fun I was comparing the 10 and my oneplus one side by side, doing little "tests" by seeing who could open apps faster. And... the OnePlus One actually beats the 10 about half of the time... Wtf? We had 801, 805, 808, 810, and now 820. So that's Four Generations higher...yet sometimes slower? I'm not sure if this is a "problem" or not, I'm just shocked. The 10 lags in general scrolling times sometimes has this... strange touch delay, but in the OPO none of these issues exist even though the touch screen is off sometimes when typing. Uh... So unsure.
So anyway, can someone shed some light on this?
(update) I forgot to mention that my oneplus one also has this 2 stuck cores issue, but it's 1.2ghz... So I'm just at a loss here.
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You got a dodgy phone. RUU if you have no option. Don't know what swappa is, but sounds like second hand sale. Start fresh. You didn't really give much details about phone/carrier/firmware etc, so I'm not sure. I don't have a one plus to compare, but would bet my life HTC is faster. Definitely software related.
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You got a dodgy phone. RUU if you have no option. Don't know what swappa is, but sounds like second hand sale. Start fresh. You didn't really give much details about phone/carrier/firmware etc, so I'm not sure. I don't have a one plus to compare, but would bet my life HTC is faster. Definitely software related.
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Derp! Ah you're right I forgot the details... Lol sorry I listed that late last night.
AT&T, and the latest firmware that just came out.
Honestly I've had nothing but issues buying stuff from Swappa which always ended with me returning the item and getting my money back.
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Honestly I've had nothing but issues buying stuff from Swappa which always ended with me returning the item and getting my money back.
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What? I've bought and sold many devices with issues :0