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LP vs ADW - Battery Consumption

First, if this is in the wrong spot save your breath...it'll get moved eventually. I (we) don't need some uppity tool acting all high and mighty. Don't get all butt-hurt, just chime in about the topic, or go play outside.
So I've been running Calk's 1.7.5 and 1.7.7 roms for quite a while now. Battery life is stellar...but it seems to me that the battery life with LP is significantly worse than ADW. Does anyone know which of these launchers is better on battery?
Yes, I know that the number of widgets, custom animations, etc...matter...but in my experiences I've tested both of these launchers without any widgets running. Kept them as basic as possible, and it seems like ADW comes out on top...which totally bums me out because I prefer LP.
Thanks guys!

Well I had been using the ADW launch that came with CM7 and its battery life was decent keeping my data off, ect]...recently switched over launcher pro plus cuz i found a free apk for it, and today had my mobile data on a good 6 hours, aim in the background, a couple of widgets left, and still have around 60% battery life, and been off the charger since 8am [est]. Launcher Pro seems to be good to me, with my rom and kernel.

Intetesting...thanks.

No problem man

Battery life

Hey guys, my girlfriend just got a pro and its battery life is horrrrible. Im on a rooted fascinate and I've managed to get a much better battery life using different rom's and such. Is there anything I can do to help her battery life???
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battery life is crap on this phone. i manage to barely get by the day by using launcher pro, and titanium backup to freeze all the bloat that comes with the phone. i am planning to buy the oem motorola extended battery in a few days. ****s ridiculous

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Battery life isnt so horrible.. has improved a lot with the last 3.8.7 update that came out a month ago. Yes, best idea is to get rid of the bloatware and use launcher pro.. I got used to using Advanced Task Killer with setting it to AutoKill.. however i discovered that just by using System Panel and leaving the programs running, I get a much better battery life out of the device.. Medium use brings me to roughly 36hrs if I am streching it.

vivid22 said:
Battery life isnt so horrible.. has improved a lot with the last 3.8.7 update that came out a month ago. Yes, best idea is to get rid of the bloatware and use launcher pro.. I got used to using Advanced Task Killer with setting it to AutoKill.. however i discovered that just by using System Panel and leaving the programs running, I get a much better battery life out of the device.. Medium use brings me to roughly 36hrs if I am streching it.
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Yeah, after the last update, I'm getting 20+ hours easily with moderate to heavy usage.
You should take a look at what's using the majority of the battery and go from there.

JuiceDefender on Nexus

Has anyone tried this out? I just put it on and have not gone through a battery cycle. Trying to see if it will help with battery life.
Running leaked radio on ARHD 2.1.2
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Some people swear by it, but then again some people believe a supernatural being exists because someone said so.

Yeah I've used it since I got the Nexus and it works great. Does what it's supposed to do. I don't believe in supernatural beings though.
Full disclosure; I have had this bug which manifests about once every week where the touch screen becomes completely unresponsive in the lock screen and there is no way to unlock the screen or turn the phone off unless I pull the battery. I have this nagging feeling that it might have something to do with JuiceDefender but I haven't confirmed it.
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I purchased JuiceDefender and also Green Power Premium and never really noticed a big difference in battery life against leaving them off and changing wireless profiles.
Getting almost 2 days out of my Nexus so may give them a go once they both fully support ICS just to test.

Chrono_Tata said:
Yeah I've used it since I got the Nexus and it works great. Does what it's supposed to do. I don't believe in supernatural beings though.
Full disclosure; I have had this bug which manifests about once every week where the touch screen becomes completely unresponsive in the lock screen and there is no way to unlock the screen or turn the phone off unless I pull the battery. I have this nagging feeling that it might have something to do with JuiceDefender but I haven't confirmed it.
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Disable JuiceDefender for a week and see if that bug still exists. If not, problem solved. You can do the same as juice defender by pushing the multitask button and swipping away any apps you don't want.
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JuiceDefender is not only great for a little energy saving, but also for featured like WLAN by localization and display Brightness configuration.
I used it on the S2 and now on the GN.
On Ics it has some little bugs yet, but it also does seem great job here.
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I have the basic version of JuiceDefender running on my GN and I swear its making a noticeable difference in battery life.
I have it set to disable my Data connection whenever the phone is locked. It re-enables it when I unlock it, so it doesn't come on when I'm just checking the time. The effect is immediate too so data is there when you need it.
It also comes on once every 30min just to let apps/email sync briefly.
According to JuiceDefender its improved my battery life by 1.7x. I'd be inclined to say its about right...

Star Shadow said:
Disable JuiceDefender for a week and see if that bug still exists. If not, problem solved. You can do the same as juice defender by pushing the multitask button and swipping away any apps you don't want.
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Lol it does a bit more than that mate. It's the radio function management I need since I'm always too lazy to toggle them manually. I've been meaning to disable it to test if the lock screen bug would go away but I find it hard to use my phone without it now that I've got so used to it. Now that's it's the Christmas holiday though I might give it a go.
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It made a big difference in battery life but it takes way too long for the device to reconnect to the mobile network when i wake it up. Likewise, it will not allow me to get my emails throughout the day unless I wake it up.

Star Shadow said:
Disable JuiceDefender for a week and see if that bug still exists. If not, problem solved. You can do the same as juice defender by pushing the multitask button and swipping away any apps you don't want.
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The multitask button doesn't kill apps - swiping just removes them from the list. Its more like a recent used apps list - like long pressing the home button on Android 2.x use to be - than a multi task manager showing running apps.
As for juice defender, I bought ultimate, and it was just horrible. Very laggy UI, and felt like it was causing more battery usage itself than saving. The comments for 'ultimate' on the market seem to say the same thing. The free version seems much better, although you don't have as many options. There's also another paid version which is cheaper, but I havent tried it.
Put it this way, I uninstalled it Waste of £4.99 which is a ridiculously hefty price for something that cant even get its UI right.

Chrono_Tata said:
Yeah I've used it since I got the Nexus and it works great. Does what it's supposed to do. I don't believe in supernatural beings though.
Full disclosure; I have had this bug which manifests about once every week where the touch screen becomes completely unresponsive in the lock screen and there is no way to unlock the screen or turn the phone off unless I pull the battery. I have this nagging feeling that it might have something to do with JuiceDefender but I haven't confirmed it.
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I can confirm the same behavior on my phone with JD, forcing a battery pull a few times a day. after uninstalling it, I get no more unresponsive screen. I can only conclude that it wasn't playing nice with ics
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I hope Juice Defenders Team will optimize JD for Android ICS, because I loved the program for its features.
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i have this on my GNEX and it is awesome.
yeah some little quirks BUT, definitely prolonging my battery due to wifi/mobile data management.
i'm not experiencing the unresponsive issues and stuff you guys are reporting..
maybe its another app????
i'm getting more than 16hrs on my phone.
as for ultimate. no need for that unless you have a rooted phone.
pro is very good.
i picked up th pro version for $0.99 when it was on sale.

JuiceDefender Ultimate
Hi,
I'm using it on my rooted GN 4.0.1, works well.
By using 3G/WLAN management I come up to 25 - 30 hours lasting battery power.
At home and in my office I told JDU (JuiceDefenderUltimate) to switch to those WLAN's and disable 3G there.
I'vnt tested all the other features like cpuspeedcontroll, or something else.
For me it works perfect.
regards
J.M.

kam187 said:
The multitask button doesn't kill apps - swiping just removes them from the list. Its more like a recent used apps list - like long pressing the home button on Android 2.x use to be - than a multi task manager showing running apps.
As for juice defender, I bought ultimate, and it was just horrible. Very laggy UI, and felt like it was causing more battery usage itself than saving. The comments for 'ultimate' on the market seem to say the same thing. The free version seems much better, although you don't have as many options. There's also another paid version which is cheaper, but I havent tried it.
Put it this way, I uninstalled it Waste of £4.99 which is a ridiculously hefty price for something that cant even get its UI right.
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Steps to prove yourself incorrect:
1) Install OSMonitor
2) Open GMail
3) Go to homescreen and open OSMonitor
4) In the process list, make sure GMail is listed (it should be!).
5) Press the Multitask soft button and swipe away GMail.
6) Check for GMail in OSMonitor and it will have disappeared as it is no longer running.
Magic!
Sorry I'm just on a personal mission to stop this misinformation from being spread.
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On-topic: I've used JuiceDefender Ultimate on all three Nexuses over the years and I certainly think that it makes a big difference by turning wifi off when not in use and turning mobile data off when the screen is off, although I have loads of other settings configured within the app also.

JD Works Great
I have been using JD Ultimate on my Nexus and it works great (I would estimate 1.5 - 2x battery life).
I used the Nexus for a little over a week without JD just to have a set expectations of what my battery life is without JD.
I have not seen any bugs with this up til now.

Chrono_Tata said:
Yeah I've used it since I got the Nexus and it works great. Does what it's supposed to do. I don't believe in supernatural beings though.
Full disclosure; I have had this bug which manifests about once every week where the touch screen becomes completely unresponsive in the lock screen and there is no way to unlock the screen or turn the phone off unless I pull the battery. I have this nagging feeling that it might have something to do with JuiceDefender but I haven't confirmed it.
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I get the same issue and I dont get it when I uninstalled Juice Defender
My phone also reboots randomly and I am wondering if its linked toJuice Defender. The reboots only started recently

I use JD free on my GN, although I haven't seen what battery would be like without JD on it. On my Incredible, JD made the difference between not getting though a single day to getting almost 2 days out of my battery. On my GN with JD I'm still only getting about one full day's worth out of it, sometimes not quite a full day.

I am using Juice Defender Plus and it is set to manage it self then WiFi and 3g network. I am using wifi at home and in the office,and the rest -3g
In my opinion....jd plus does worth the money spent.
14 hours and 20 minutes used - 46% of battery left
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Ice Cream Sandwich seems to do a lot of the things that JuiceDefender did on my old phone. For example, data is automatically turned off when you are connected to WiFi. I had it installed for a while, but when I looked at the list of apps that were using the battery (in the Android settings menu) JuiceDefender was listed as using a fair amount of battery. I'm not sure it is worth the hassle on this phone.

Launcher-> Battery Use?

THere's lots of launchers out there. I used to use Launcher Pro, and currently am using Go Launcher. I love its features.
Has anyone done any testing of one vs another related to battery use? I have a good friend that said Go Launcher hit his battery pretty hard.
I plan to do some testing, and will post what I find, but am curious if anyone else has any experiences to report

My Sister almost returned her GS2 not too long ago, my "fix" was to remove all the Go crap ATT installed on her device. Wife recently inherited my old Vibrant, she too tried Go Launcher, killed her battery fairly quick, removed it from her phone.

I suggest/recommend Nova Launcher.

Apex or Nova, those would probably be the lightest on the battery for ICS.

I used go launcher on my galaxy s2 and could pull 30 to 40 hours with aokp. I think its great with battery life.
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Skyler2Dope said:
I used go launcher on my galaxy s2 and could pull 30 to 40 hours with aokp. I think its great with battery life.
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I put a Battery Monitoring app on my phone last night, and based on what i see, it doesn't look too bad to me. Checking it right now, with 5 hours 32 min since unplugged (didn't charge to full); of 69.1% of battery use being consumed by apps, Go Launcher accounted for 2.3%
Working on converting another phone for my wife, and played with both Apex and Nova today. While both are nice, they don't have the features that Go has, even if purchasing the pro version. If I wasn't already used to utilizing all the features, I probably would go with one of the others, given so many folks like them.
I guess I'll stick with Go Launcher.

Though I was the only one that notice how much battery go launcher drains
From my galaxy S111

So how do you like it so far?

I'm going to be getting the G3 Friday and enroll in the new $100 for 4 people with 10gb data plan. Wondering how do you like your guy's G3's so far? Is the battery life good? 3gb of sufficient? Does the snapdragon 801cut it for you guys?
One thing I noticed was the development for this phone is slower than other G3 phones even with an unlocked bootloader.
How do you guys like the screen? I liked it but sometimes I thought it might look washed out just slightly. And the digitizer effect is there alright. But over all its the best phone to get right now.
Also for the techies, how much vram does the adreno use out of the 3gb memory. I bet its around 512mb huh?

Battery life for me kinda blows. Screen on kills it pretty fast. Out does look amazing though. I switched from a Sony Xperia ZL. I like the G3 better but there are things I like about the ZL over the G3 and vice versa.

Get it. In my eperience the battery life is amazing. I get 30+ hours with approximately 4-4.5 hours screen on time. As you mentioned It's also arguably the best phone out atm. The screen is beautiful and nothing I've seen comes close to it (s5/m8). The only issue I've had so far is the phone getting too hot but that's probably due to the fact that I've disabled the auto brightness feature when the phone gets too hot. I may have to change that back if it occurs again. All in all I couldn't be happier with my purchase!
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I got my G3 this morning along with a S4 for my wife when we switched from Verizon to TMO.
I had a S4 with Verizon and absolutely loved it. Had it running to perfection with safesterap and Echo rom v26.1............could get 36hrs between charges and I had it set up sweet
SO it took a bit to get everything set with TMO, and get all my basic apps set and my Apex launcher set before I rooted and set all the rooted apps up as well as loading the latest TWRP recovery.
I gotta say for what I have seen so far, its so fricken worth it. G3 tweakbox gives about 90% of all the customization I need....be good to throw a theme on top of some of the stock stuff but heck I can live with that.
I'll update in a couple days, but so far, I am impressed

I've had the g3 for about 4 days. Coming from Nexus 5. I don't like the default launcher so installed nova prime. Nova prime forgets its the default launcher about once a day. LG Health is nice but you have to set up a shortcut action on nova. It doesn't show up in the apps list. I installed the google keyboard but get the gapps crashed message on each reboot. I think it's because the g3 ships with 4.4.2. The screen on the g3 is really nice. The battery life may be nice. Never really left it as my regular phone line longer than a day.
I like it. I just like the nexus 5 with purity ROM more. I switch back and forth every so often. About 90% of each day I'm on the nexus 5. Is it worth the cost for 10% use? Probably not. I have about 9 days to decide whether it's worth the cost.
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coming from a sprint note 3 to a g2 sprint and g3 tmobile now i love this phone its like my g2 but better its fast with minor tweaks i love it using greenify it works well this phone does everything my past phones did and more you wont regret it

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I've had the g3 for about 4 days. Coming from Nexus 5. I don't like the default launcher so installed nova prime. Nova prime forgets its the default launcher about once a day. LG Health is nice but you have to set up a shortcut action on nova. It doesn't show up in the apps list. I installed the google keyboard but get the gapps crashed message on each reboot. I think it's because the g3 ships with 4.4.2. The screen on the g3 is really nice. The battery life may be nice. Never really left it as my regular phone line longer than a day.
I like it. I just like the nexus 5 with purity ROM more. I switch back and forth every so often. About 90% of each day I'm on the nexus 5. Is it worth the cost for 10% use? Probably not. I have about 9 days to decide whether it's worth the cost.
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I got my G3 on launch day. I used the stock launcher for a day, then installed Nova. Nova has never forgotten it was the default launcher. I still use the stock keyboard. I have never received a gapps error message. The screen is awesome, but I think 1080p would have been fine, with longer battery life to boot. The G3 battery lasts a whole day, but my Note 2 went even longer. However, I am very pleased with the G3 and plan to keep it. It will only get better as development expands.

I still have no idea how people get amazing battery life. I picked up the Verizon one and have great signal almost everywhere and best times I have gotten were 20 hours and 3 hours sot. How people are getting, 30 hours and 5 hours sot is beyond me.
It's a great phone, gets me through the day, who has is honestly all I need, however it's not much different than anything else out there.
I personally enjoy my Flex just as much. Just too big for work now and having to switch carries, however rest of the family is on T-Mobile.

JesseMT4G said:
I still have no idea how people get amazing battery life. I picked up the Verizon one and have great signal almost everywhere and best times I have gotten were 20 hours and 3 hours sot. How people are getting, 30 hours and 5 hours sot is beyond me.
It's a great phone, gets me through the day, who has is honestly all I need, however it's not much different than anything else out there.
I personally enjoy my Flex just as much. Just too big for work now and having to switch carries, however rest of the family is on T-Mobile.
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I think most people were expecting adequate/sub-par battery life due to the amount of pixels being pushed through the same 801 processor when compared to S5 and M8. To me, the fact that it holds up to the competition (1080p) and even sometimes outperform them, is a win for LG and G3 consumers.

Please continue discussion here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-lg-g3/general/g3-experience-t2819404
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