Anyone go from a sgs2 to a nexus? How is it? I owned my SGS2 lte for about a week and sent it back due to a camera issue. I can choose to get the nexus now if I want to rather than a replacement SGS2 Lte.
Just looking at the features, all that really seems better is the HD screen. Worse camera, slightly worse cpu (1.2 vs 1.5 ghz), no sd card capability, and ICS is coming to the sgs2 eventually anyway. The nexus however is $50 cheaper for me than the sgs2.
Any ideas/opinions?
Came from European GSM SGSII (still have it) to the Nexus. Processor is the same @1.2 so not noticed much there.
Have the latest ICS port from Samsung on the SGSII at the moment but it's not as snappy as the Nexus. The camera is the only thing that I miss from the SGSII.
Never used the memory that I had on the SGSII so no biggy for me loosing SD support. If you are bothered 32GB GN are on the way.
The CPU on the SGS2 lte/skyrocket says it's higher clocked than the one the nexus has. I was watching some videos of ics running on it. I don't know why but it looked quite laggy on the nexus for some reason.
Are you talking about the 1.5 ghz qualcomm cpu. I'll take a TI cpu clocked @ 1.2 over that one any day.
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Yea the qualcomms aren't my fav in this day and age.
While clocked at 1.5 it runs as fast as a 1-1.2ghz of another chipset.
Camera is hit and miss. The instant shutter is nice on the Nexus. I don't know if one is better then the other in terms of speed or power but the Nexus has a longer life and some neat tricks you can't find in other phones.
The screen, LED notification, and Google support are enough to sway my opinion.
LTE EX Galaxy Nexus - AOSP KANG
Asus Transformer - 3.2.1 OC/UV
Oh so whats the difference in cpu then? I thought they were the same with different clocks.
Qualcomm is cortex a8 and just not as powerful. They usually undervolt well. That is all that is memorable about them. The nexus will have a longer lifespan with developers and Google updates if that means anything.
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also in ICS qualcomm SoC will always be in last place as they use adreno gpu which is like night and day compared to the SGX in TI SoC and GPU acceleration is a large part of ICS
I still am not too sure. don't know much about cpus. So is the one on the nexus better?
Yes, lower clock speed but better GPU performance which in ICS it will almost always win
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I like the "stock vanilla" android look, so thats why i went with the nexus. I do prefer the physical shape of the sg2 a bit better though.
How is 720p video playback in youtube/media players. I have an HP touchpad and its laggy as hell for some odd reason for a tablet at youtube 720p.
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How is 720p video playback in youtube/media players. I have an HP touchpad and its laggy as hell for some odd reason for a tablet at youtube 720p.
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It's excellent!
I was wondering which one to go for, I get to upgrade a month today and I really want the best phone going. I think I'm going to get the nexus simply because its the more up to date phone. I'm quite surprised how slow these phone companies have been to release a phone that comes preinstalled with ics to out do the nexus. I can't find any new phones that are coming out soon!
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C2Q said:
Anyone go from a sgs2 to a nexus? How is it? I owned my SGS2 lte for about a week and sent it back due to a camera issue. I can choose to get the nexus now if I want to rather than a replacement SGS2 Lte.
Just looking at the features, all that really seems better is the HD screen. Worse camera, slightly worse cpu (1.2 vs 1.5 ghz), no sd card capability, and ICS is coming to the sgs2 eventually anyway. The nexus however is $50 cheaper for me than the sgs2.
Any ideas/opinions?
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Hey I wen't from a SGS2 to a Nexus and while I am totally happy the SGS2 was faster. I can't wait to ICS rom my SGS2 for a complete comparision.
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Hey I wen't from a SGS2 to a Nexus and while I am totally happy the SGS2 was faster. I can't wait to ICS rom my SGS2 for a complete comparision.
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This is about the LTE version which by no means is faster than the GN.
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Qualcomm is cortex a8 and just not as powerful. They usually undervolt well. That is all that is memorable about them. The nexus will have a longer lifespan with developers and Google updates if that means anything.
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It's not A8...
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How is 720p video playback in youtube/media players. I have an HP touchpad and its laggy as hell for some odd reason for a tablet at youtube 720p.
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720p? This thing does 1080 without any lag.
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It's not A8...
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The GS2 LTE?
It sure is.
S1: Cortex-A8
S2: Cortex-A8
S3: Dual Core Cortex-A8 >>>Any GS2 that is LTE or for Tmo's 42mbps network.
But why would you want to do 1080 when it only has 720p res? haha
Nice to know though. Can it play mkv 720p files just fine?
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Since it's release date on October 10, I've been debating on whether or not I should get this over the Amaze 4g and after 4 days, I decided that the galaxy s 2 is the best choice for me. Now after watching some videos of the original galaxy s 2, I want to know what things were left out in terms of processing power. All I know is that it uses the snapdragon s3 processor which runs on an a8 cortex as opposed to the a9 in the exynos processor. I know that speed is one of the things that the exynos has over snapdragon and also the fact that it's asynchronous as opposed to qualcomm running one core at a time (correct me if I'm wrong here, not savy on processors). The biggest things I know I will use on this phone is Internet, photos, media, and some gaming here and there. On YouTube I saw the original galaxy s 2 capable of running an N64 emulator with virtually no lag, though I don't know if sound was included, and the same goes for the psx emulator. I also saw how it was able to play multiple video formats (including 1080p mkv files) with no issues whatsoever. I want to know if the snapdragon processor would still be capable of running emulators at similar speeds and still have support for multiple video formats even though it's not as fast as the exynos processor. Help is definitely appreciated.
P.S. This was typed on an iPod so sorry if there are any typos and grammar mistakes.
The Qualcomm chip is asynchronous.
Right now, I don't know how much Samsung did to fine-tune the system to accommodate the hardware differences....but like you said, the Qualcomm chip is A8 and the Exynos is A9.
That speaks for itself.
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The Qualcomm chip is asynchronous.
Right now, I don't know how much Samsung did to fine-tune the system to accommodate the hardware differences....but like you said, the Qualcomm chip is A8 and the Exynos is A9.
That speaks for itself.
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I have no idea in the difference care to enlighten me or post a link?
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I have no idea in the difference care to enlighten me or post a link?
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Essentially, the Qualcomm chip is running on an older architecture relative to the Exynos, which is typically why the Exynos outperforms the Qualcomm even at lower clockspeeds. I'm guessing T-Mobile needed the SGS2 to be on par with with its siblings thus the higher clockspeeds (1.5ghz) to accommodate the older architecture.
The iPhone 4 and iPhone 4S if I'm not mistaken are also running chips that are based on the A9 architectures.
There is a difference when using the original SGS2 with the T-Mobile version...but it's not too drastic. What the CPU makes up in lack of speed, the big screen more than makes up for it.
I'm quite new to this forum, therefore I can't post external links yet. However, perform a google search for "How Samsung's chip change-up affects the T-Mobile Galaxy S II" the first link is an interesting article.
The normal clockspeed for this processor is 1.5GHz
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I'm quite new to this forum, therefore I can't post external links yet. However, perform a google search for "How Samsung's chip change-up affects the T-Mobile Galaxy S II" the first link is an interesting article.
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What I took away from that article is that they went Snapdragon in order to use another modem chip to be able to do 42Mbps. The sacrifice is graphics performance.
Hmm, it plays my HD movie great. Not sure I will ever play a first person shooter on it...
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i was about to point out the same
the Qualcomm CPU stock speed is 1.5 Ghz, the same CPU on HTC Sense was actually under clocked to 1.2 Ghz
so the new HTC Amaze is using the CPU at is normal speed like on our phone
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What I took away from that article is that they went Snapdragon in order to use another modem chip to be able to do 42Mbps. The sacrifice is graphics performance.
Hmm, it plays my HD movie great. Not sure I will ever play a first person shooter on it...
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It also sacrifices general OS performance, at least in its current state. Looks like Samsung did no optimization on this guy for the qcom SoC. As it currently stands, I find it more laggy than my (admittedly) highly optimized Epic (single core). Hopefully things will improve with devs, etc.
I had the original and was using it on att gophone,
and sold it to get this. I needed to be on a contract and Tmobile was my only option so I got this
User interface was faster and smoother, apps opened and closed in the blink of an eye
games also ran with no lag whatsoever
Screen is bigger, no hardware buttons, and faster data is a plus for me
Tmobile is very spotty in my area tho
Sometimes I feel like I should have stayed
This phone has been behaving differently
The user interface is nearly as smooth and some of my favorite games lag
(Dragon fly, modern combat 2)
Still a great phone but these 2 Arras are disappointing for me
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Krooked22 said:
I had the original stay.
User interface was faster and smoother, apps opened and closed in the blink of an eye
games also ran with no lag whatsoever
This phone has been behaving differently
The user interface is nearly as smooth and some of my favorite games lag
(Dragon fly, modern combat 2)
Still a great phone but these 2 Arras are disappointing for me
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To be clear, gaming performance will never be as good on this platform. The GPU is severely weaker than the exynos models. What remains to be seen is if the rest of the OS can be optimized though.
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To be clear, gaming performance will never be as good on this platform. The GPU is severely weaker than the exynos models. What remains to be seen is if the rest of the OS can be optimized though.
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The OS definitely can be a little more optimized for this processor. This phone isn't a slouch though.
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The OS definitely can be a little more optimized for this processor. This phone isn't a slouch though.
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It is a slouch relatively speaking, to the people who forked out full retail for this phone.
I might get this phone, if and only if, FULL hardware acceleration is not announced on the Prime, even then, I shall hunt it for free via retentions.
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It is a slouch relatively speaking, to the people who forked out full retail for this phone.
I might get this phone, if and only if, FULL hardware acceleration is not announced on the Prime, even then, I shall hunt it for free via retentions.
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I am one of the people who forked out full retail. I can take a picture of my receipt to prove. We nit pick at every single phone that comes out. Trust me when I say this phone isn't a slouch. Yes it stutters once in a blue, but its fast and pretty smooth. All we need is an official update from Samsung to fix the issue or get a few custom roms. I've owned literally every smartphone that came out for T-Mobile this year and the previous years and I can honestly say this happens to be the fastest, even with the slight stutter it gets every now and then. It's just a slight software issue. I believe that this processor is capable of getting the job done.
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this is my third phone this year and im done .nothing to complain about if i start worrying about milliseconds then i would never buy another phone again because the galaxy s3 will be a few milliseconds faster than this one and so on and on. i made a promise to myself that im done till the end of nex year
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this is my third phone this year and im done .nothing to complain about if i start worrying about milliseconds then i would never buy another phone again because the galaxy s3 will be a few milliseconds faster than this one and so on and on. i made a promise to myself that im done till the end of nex year
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Lol. I don't think your done. I think we all say this same thing. I bet I'll probably see you over at the Nexus Prime forum. I really love this phone and would like to say I'm done for the year too, but I think what makes some of us go for the next best thing is A. its the next best thing and B. we realize that our dev community gets smaller whenever the next best thing comes out so we want to be back in the loop of things. I'M JUST A PHONE SLUT!
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II've owned literally every smartphone that came out for T-Mobile this year and the previous years and I can honestly say this happens to be the fastest, even with the slight stutter it gets every now and then. It's just a slight software issue. I believe that this processor is capable of getting the job done.
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I also paid full retail (pending Prime announcement), but I can tell you that my highly optimized Epic is smoother than this phone is right now in day-to-day use. Now, hopefully that means that there is a lot of room for improvement as this chip is theoretically faster and dual-core, but it is an open question of whether that promise will be realized.
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I also paid full retail (pending Prime announcement), but I can tell you that my highly optimized Epic is smoother than this phone is right now in day-to-day use. Now, hopefully that means that there is a lot of room for improvement as this chip is theoretically faster and dual-core, but it is an open question of whether that promise will be realized.
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We will be rewarded by both Samsung and the devs soon.
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Lol. I don't think your done. I think we all say this same thing. I bet I'll probably see you over at the Nexus Prime forum. I really love this phone and would like to say I'm done for the year too, but I think what makes some of us go for the next best thing is A. its the next best thing and B. we realize that our dev community gets smaller whenever the next best thing comes out so we want to be back in the loop of things. I'M JUST A PHONE SLUT!
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This ^
This processor is the same one used in the now defunct HP touchpad. People have successfully overclocked their touchpads to 1.7ghz with minimal to no additional drain on battery but a noticeable speed boost. I imagine our phones will react much the same way
I'll probably get trolled for this but here i go.. Why post this on SGS2 general? Well, alot of people are saying Nexus prime is better than SGS2 so i thouhht of sharing this to you guys.. Not sure if this is official or not but for those who want to check it out you can click this link..
Courtesy of the loose lips of Japan’s leading cellular carrier, NTT DoCoMo, we now have the specifications for the Samsung Galaxy Nexus (Prime). Software-wise, there are no surprises: it will run Android 4.0,*Ice Cream Sandwich , but on the hardware front… well, there’s no easy way to put this: the Galaxy Nexus has a lower spec than the iPhone 4S and Galaxy S II, and it’s even comparable to the Nexus S in terms of graphics power. (Updated @ 23:00 EST:*The following specs have now been confirmed by Samsung and Google.)
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makes sense
nexus is Googles flagship made by Samsung
SGS2 is Samsungs flagship made by Samsung
Worst specs but it is optimized so who cares iphone4 has bad specs an its butter smooth
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makes sense
nexus is Googles flagship made by Samsung
SGS2 is Samsungs flagship made by Samsung
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True story bro .......!!!
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Worst specs but it is optimized so who cares iphone4 has bad specs an its butter smooth
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If you like to play games on your phone then you might care with that GPU!
Happy camper here lol
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Worst specs but it is optimized so who cares iphone4 has bad specs an its butter smooth
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ICS doesn't look to be as optimized as you make it sound from the hands-on vids that have been posted; it stutters and lags more than the SGS2 does with touchwiz. Still I might buy it, but just because I'm tired of waiting for updates.
GPU
Apparently the Galaxy Nexus uses the SGX540, the same GPU as the Galaxy S (one). While the Galaxy S II uses the Mali-400 GPU which seems to be on a higher spec. Wouldn't it be a fairly weak combination since the phone comes with a 720p display paired with a GPU more than a year old?
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Apparently the Galaxy Nexus uses the SGX540, the same GPU as the Galaxy S (one). While the Galaxy S II uses the Mali-400 GPU which seems to be on a higher spec. Wouldn't it be a fairly weak combination since the phone comes with a 720p display paired with a GPU more than a year old?
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SGX540 is from nov 2007
I was expecting more from nexus prime since it's been suggested by alot of people here.. But we won't know till we see the actual device
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ICS doesn't look to be as optimized as you make it sound from the hands-on vids that have been posted; it stutters and lags more than the SGS2 does with touchwiz. Still I might buy it, but just because I'm tired of waiting for updates.
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Where have you seen any video with lag & stuttering?
And remember, recording a GUI that runs in 60 fps with a 30fps camera and uploading to youtube causes micro-stuttering in the video due to half frame-rate and obviously no v-sync between phone display and camera.
Lets also not forget that 1200x720 resolution. It's pushing a LOT more pixels than the SGS2.
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Where have you seen any video with lag & stuttering?
And remember, recording a GUI that runs in 60 fps with a 30fps camera and uploading to youtube causes micro-stuttering in the video due to half frame-rate and obviously no v-sync between phone display and camera.
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"As to overall performance, we saw a good deal of stutter in the Galaxy Nexus before us. Taps were not always recognized and there were occasional delays in performing an instruction, though in Google’s defense, it was a phone fully loaded with running tasks and the software is being continually improved and optimized (i.e. it’s not yet fully baked)."
Via ThisIsMyNext
You can clearly see the stutter and lag in almost all off the videos that have been posted that are longer than 10 seconds. Not saying it's a deal breaker, but ICS at this point doesn't look too optimized.
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Lets also not forget that 1200x720 resolution. It's pushing a LOT more pixels than the SGS2.
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That's no excuse, as the PowerVR SGX 540 at 384mhz should have no problem delivering a smooth UI. It's most likely due to inefficiencies in the code rather than actual hardware shortcomings.
After reading comments about Nexus Prime i think my next phone will be galaxy s3
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PowerVR SGX540 GPU .... From 2007 .... The same as Droid bionic or Nexus S.
No more details.
It is actually just worse than our dear Mali 400.
The fact is our S2 remains one of the best and powerful' superphone of 2011 !
When we'll have ICS update, it'll turn into the beast monster ever, and apple killer ! hahahaha
Have fun meanwhile !
Toss3 said:
"As to overall performance, we saw a good deal of stutter in the Galaxy Nexus before us. Taps were not always recognized and there were occasional delays in performing an instruction, though in Google’s defense, it was a phone fully loaded with running tasks and the software is being continually improved and optimized (i.e. it’s not yet fully baked)."
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You can clearly see the stutter and lag in almost all off the videos that have been posted that are longer than 10 seconds. Not saying it's a deal breaker, but ICS at this point doesn't look too optimized.
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That's no excuse, as the PowerVR SGX 540 at 384mhz should have no problem delivering a smooth UI. It's most likely due to inefficiencies in the code rather than actual hardware shortcomings.
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Engadget said the first device they tried was like that however they were then given a Galaxy Nexus running Android 4.0.1 and it was buttery smooth.
After the nexus one Google have dropped the ball big time
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Sealed the deal on the Rezound for me when I switch to verizon.
Hahahah! What a poor update of a phone to be honest! Only good thing about the galaxy nexus is the pure vanilla experience annnnnnnd getting updates quickly. Looks like my sgs2 will b with me for a loooong time! Galaxy nexus looks pointless tbh and was shocked to hear its good a 5mp camera lol :-/. At least a 1.4/1.6 dual core would of been useful and yuup i herd that ICS is laggy and ive seen some vids.
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Engadget said the first device they tried was like that however they were then given a Galaxy Nexus running Android 4.0.1 and it was buttery smooth.
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Yet another reason to stick with the pure google experience.. Would have taken samsung a month to apply that incremental update to their touchwiz devices. Just hope that ICS will bring the responsiveness of Cyanogenmod and smoothness of SGS 2 all in one package. Could care less about the hardware as long as the experience is smooth.
Well, i have to say that i love the Pure Google Experience that Nexus phones brings to customers, i feel really atracted by the fact that Nexus phones gets updates so frequently and mainly it's style. I followed closely all the Nexus Phones, Specially the last one, the Galaxy Nexus. Although i like it very much, The desing could be a bit more attractive, what disappointed to me is the hardware. 5 Megapixel Sensor in a TI OMAP 4460 Chipset? Are you Kidding me? What could be the reason, don't know, although it only carries 5mp camera the quality is very good and the 1080p 30fps video recording is good also, but i expected a better hardware, don't know in that moment what was better, anyways, the hardware could handle the 720p resolution just fine. What i'd like to see in the next Nexus phone is:
*Display: 4.7" with 720p Resolution, Super Amoled+ without Pentile.
*1.5 GB or 2GB of RAM
*TI OMAP5430 or 5432 Processor at 1.5 or 2.0 GHz 28nm Dual Core or Quad Core Processor with POWERVR™ SGX544-MPx
*8MP Camera (Its fine with 8mp but if they want to add 12mp or 20mp its welcome!) with 1080p 60fps Video recording.
*Better audio and Speaker hardware.
*2150mAh Battery
*Android 5.0 Jelly Bean.
*4G LTE Support
What do you expect from the next Nexus Phone?
You pretty much nailed the specs just need the shell, camera and battery to follow suit.
Razr Max battery life
Attractive build that feels premium
Better camera
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You pretty much nailed the specs just need the shell, camera and battery to follow suit.
Razr Max battery life
Attractive build that feels premium
Better camera
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Big phones needs Big Battery, Small things don't fit with them
Did you try Android Revolution HD 3.0.0 ROM?
They say it provides great battery life and peformance!
All I want in the next Nexus phone:
REMOVABLE STORAGE
I could care less about everything else.
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All I want in the next Nexus phone:
REMOVABLE STORAGE
I could care less about everything else.
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I hope not!
Why want a 2150 battery? I want 3300 or more. If its in the maxx I wanna see it in a nexus.
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All I want in the next Nexus phone:
REMOVABLE STORAGE
I could care less about everything else.
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Why? Removable storage + partitions + UMS is a joke and annoying to deal with. Give me single storage with MTP any day. Just bump it up to 32gb/64gb this time around.
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Why want a 2150 battery? I want 3300 or more. If its in the maxx I wanna see it in a nexus.
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Seriously. Especially considering the MAXX can do it now. All phones should have it by the end of the year.
As far as OP goes, I'm down with that except:
*we need a bigger battery than 2150mAh. Let's do 3000mAh+, we know its possible.
*we don't need a larger camera sensor, we need a better one. With good software. MP's don't really matter.
*why just LTE? nowhere else in the world is close to adopting LTE other than North America. Let's see 42mbps (why not 84mbps?) dual-carrier HSPA+, with a pentaband radio. We need that option too.
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Why? Removable storage + partitions + UMS is a joke and annoying to deal with. Give me single storage with MTP any day. Just bump it up to 32gb/64gb this time around.
Seriously. Especially considering the MAXX can do it now. All phones should have it by the end of the year.
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Well actually the 1650mAh Battery in my galaxy s2 is fine, i finish the day with 50% battery.. I'm not a heavy user.. Think for me should be enough with 2150.. But, always more is welcome..! What do you all think about the processor? That TI OMAP 5430 Looks powerful and promising!
Next nexus
quad core
2gig ram
Higher then 720p resolution
Projector
Wireless USB
32gig internal storage
Apple-like announcement (i.e. availability date, participating carriers, pricing).
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All I want in the next Nexus phone:
REMOVABLE STORAGE
I could care less about everything else.
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Yeah. Removable storage with at least sata 1 speeds. And 64 gigs internal.
bow chicka wow wow.
Hmm.. The next nexus with all this specs will be really expensive, if last one when was released, the gsm unlocked was.. 700 u$d i think the next one will cost around 900 and 1200 u$d :S
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Hmm.. The next nexus with all this specs will be really expensive, if last one when was released, the gsm unlocked was.. 700 u$d i think the next one will costo around 900 and 1200 u$d :S
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Except it'll be for sale in November, and all phones will have similar specs by that time.
The Nexus S was ~$600 with WVGA screen, 512mb RAM and 1ghz single core processor in 2010.
The Galaxy Nexus with 720p screen, 1gb RAM and 1.2ghz dual core processor wasn't $1000 in 2011...
The price will be about the same.
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Except it'll be for sale in November, and all phones will have similar specs by that time.
The Nexus S was ~$600 with WVGA screen, 512mb RAM and 1ghz single core processor in 2010.
The Galaxy Nexus with 720p screen, 1gb RAM and 1.2ghz dual core processor wasn't $1000 in 2011...
The price will be about the same.
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I Hope so..
The price of GN is going down, thats what i'm seeing on ebay..
Next Gnex
Made by HTC or Motorola (because there phones generally look better than Sammy)
2.5gb Ram
2ghz Quad core Snapdragon 6
4.65 screen is fine
1080p SAMOLED+ display
3 megapixel front facing camera (made by cannon)
8-10 megapixel camera (made by cannon)
64 gb internal memory
4GLTE/HSPDA+ pentaband
3500 math battery
MULTICOLOR notification light
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Next Gnex
Made by HTC or Motorola (because there phones generally look better than Sammy)
2.5gb Ram
2ghz Quad core Snapdragon 6
4.65 screen is fine
1080p SAMOLED+ display
3 megapixel front facing camera (made by cannon)
8-10 megapixel camera (made by cannon)
64 gb internal memory
4GLTE/HSPDA+ pentaband
3500 math battery
MULTICOLOR notification light
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Wow, Monster phone! Would be awesome! And expensive too
Addictedtothegreenguy said:
Next Gnex
Made by HTC or Motorola (because there phones generally look better than Sammy)
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I definitely disagree, but it would be logical for Google to use Motorola for the next Nexus.
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I definitely disagree, but it would be logical for Google to use Motorola for the next Nexus.
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Don't know, i think Google bought motorola only for their patents, now they want to get rid of Motorola, so far we haven't seen nothing improved since google bought mobility....
Addictedtothegreenguy said:
Next Gnex
Made by HTC or Motorola (because there phones generally look better than Sammy)
2.5gb Ram
2ghz Quad core Snapdragon 6
4.65 screen is fine
1080p SAMOLED+ display
3 megapixel front facing camera (made by cannon)
8-10 megapixel camera (made by cannon)
64 gb internal memory
4GLTE/HSPDA+ pentaband
3500 math battery
MULTICOLOR notification light
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Keep dreaming lol that's way too much.
GoogleFan said:
Next nexus
quad core
2gig ram
Higher then 720p resolution
Projector
Wireless USB
32gig internal storage
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Why would you want a projector on your phone?
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The us s3 is a dual core chip with only two threads available at one time at the most, same as our phone I presume. Which means you will probably are better off with the s2 until the s4 comes out.
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The us s3 is a dual core chip with only two threads available at one time at the most, same as our phone I presume. Which means you will probably are better off with the s2 until the s4 comes out.
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Seriously?
GSIII
GSII
Twice the RAM, can handle an SD card twice the size of the S2, the screen is almost a half inch larger, the screen resolution is higher by a long shot (1280x720 vs 800x400) and a larger battery. I'd say the dual-core processor is a non-issue. Aside from benchmarks, you won't be pushing either of these phones enough to truly take advantage of those two cores let alone two more.
Edit: Forgot to mention, the processor is the next gen Snap Dragon S4 whereas the GS2 has the Snap Dragon S3 processor. Newer tech, better use of what it has.
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Seriously?
GSIII
GSII
Twice the RAM, can handle an SD card twice the size of the S2, the screen is almost a half inch larger, the screen resolution is higher by a long shot (1280x720 vs 800x400) and a larger battery. I'd say the dual-core processor is a non-issue. Aside from benchmarks, you won't be pushing either of these phones enough to truly take advantage of those two cores let alone two more.
Edit: Forgot to mention, the processor is the next gen Snap Dragon S4 whereas the GS2 has the Snap Dragon S3 processor. Newer tech, better use of what it has.
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I agree.. I mean our phone kicks ass. But there is not doubt that the S3 is better
I like my Roms the way I like my women..... Clean and smooth
What's also great about the s3 is how they are identical wit all us variants. The body is the same with all s3 models. Which means development is merged with Sprint atnt n Verizon. Then you have accessories that fit all models which means more to pick from.just overall a better phone not just spec wise.
My wife still had the s2 which is why I'll be on both forums but I feel there is more potential with s3
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I got to play around with my coworker's S3 throughout the day and I cannot believe how smooth the UI is. I was amazed with everything. So many temptations...$349 GNex, SGS3, and of course the upcoming Nexus phone(s)...
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The s3 does have better hardware, but with the software available, you will notice very little, if any difference in anything you will use your phone for. You could have 8 cores, it's not going to make your phone do anything noticeably better than the s2 or gnex. I think until we get the software to utilize all the cores, the only things that really matter right now are better camera/battery/screen..
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Yea but two threads is two threads no matter which way you put it. Two core two thread processor.
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try being hard on the phone. Use WiFi to download a torrent, then use the phone for a call first, then try other things like a record call feature and then web browse and use audio streaming and see how it will work. It won't be very differently from the our s2.
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You forgot to mention the dual core s3 smokes every other phone in benchmarks, including the quad core s3.. The new cpu is a beast.
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I went to t-mobile today to see the phone in person.
First impressions were less than exciting. Even though the resolution is far better, its pixel arrangement makes it look grainy. Ours seems just as sharp from normal hand held position. Also, even though its much faster, ours keeps up with all the current software and games.
On our S2, GTA 3 runs smooth with resolution on high and draw distance about 1/3 (everything else maxed). The S3 could probably handle full resolution and distance, although thats quite a bit more screen space to fill...
I would appreciate a wider variety of accessories and rom options, however ill definatly wait until its cheaper, or see whats next.
Zomg you fools. The s4 krait CPU in the s3 demolishes EVERY SoC out except the quad core exynos. Stop comparing the s4 to the s3 in our phones just because its dual core. Put it this way. The s3 in our phone is the Intel core2duo. The s4 is the Intel core i3. Both dual core but the i3, because of revamped architecture and smaller manufacturing process completely destroys the core2duo. Actually it also out performs core2quads. Cores and MHz don't make the end product. Look up benchmarks and you'll see the s4 has almost twice the performance of any dual core SoC out. Even beats tegra 3...
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bkaltec said:
I went to t-mobile today to see the phone in person.
First impressions were less than exciting. Even though the resolution is far better, its pixel arrangement makes it look grainy. Ours seems just as sharp from normal hand held position. Also, even though its much faster, ours keeps up with all the current software and games.
On our S2, GTA 3 runs smooth with resolution on high and draw distance about 1/3 (everything else maxed). The S3 could probably handle full resolution and distance, although thats quite a bit more screen space to fill...
I would appreciate a wider variety of accessories and rom options, however ill definatly wait until its cheaper, or see whats next.
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The s3 has a PenTile display. Pentile = poop. And as far as the processor goes yes is very nice but I think that hardware has gotten to kind of a plateau in that even with the new quad cores out there the performance jump is minimal at best from ours. My Tegra 3 tablet runs ICS equally as well as my Snapdragon S3 and can't tell the difference.
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I think I will wait for the tmobile galaxy note instead
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The s3 has a PenTile display. Pentile = poop. And as far as the processor goes yes is very nice but I think that hardware has gotten to kind of a plateau in that even with the new quad cores out there the performance jump is minimal at best from ours. My Tegra 3 tablet runs ICS equally as well as my Snapdragon S3 and can't tell the difference.
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People go overboard with the pentile thing. My epic 4g had a pentile screen. I did notice a difference between that screen and this one but it isn't a deal breaker. A pentile screen at a 720p Res on a 5 inch screen wouldnt noticeable whatsoever. The difference was minimal at 480p. I doubt you'd be able to tell a difference at a high res like that.
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You forgot to mention the dual core s3 smokes every other phone in benchmarks, including the quad core s3.. The new cpu is a beast.
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Edit: Already saw benchmarks of both the international one and the u.s. version and exynos wins in benchmarks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=SSicyj9hbwc
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try being hard on the phone. Use WiFi to download a torrent, then use the phone for a call first, then try other things like a record call feature and then web browse and use audio streaming and see how it will work. It won't be very differently from the our s2.
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it won't be very different on the international S3 either because our OS doesn't even utilize all 4 cores correctly..... and wouldn't 2gb ram be better for multitasking given that the OS optimizes with the utilization of 2 cores.
It might eat up numbers and crunch in more numbers per second but it can't do more things at once than its supposed to. The Intel i3 is a dual core but it's limited to two threads I think and if that use the case do is the core duo. Even though numbers might be able to conceive at the right time if the processes were not stream independent, important things like talking recording downloading streaming and torrent cannot be done any better with a resume boost.
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guys, he;s not entirely wrong.. the s3 processor is only about 30% faster..and better phones are coming with better quad core processors(such as apq8064 with adreno 320, exynos 5250) which will all have native hspa+ and lte support..why opt for the us variant S3 is way beyond me..
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guys, he;s not entirely wrong.. the s3 processor is only about 30% faster..and better phones are coming with better quad core processors(such as apq8064 with adreno 320, exynos 5250) which will all have native hspa+ and lte support..why opt for the us variant S3 is way beyond me..
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people would want to pay another 600 even if it was just a 5% boost.
After the galaxy line I'm sticking with the nexus. This is wack to have such great hardware and outdated software with bloat
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For those of us still on a SGSII, no matter what the reason is (no money, no stock, price too high for s3, nothing worth a 2 year extension), what would make you upgrade?
For me I'm hoping that the next Nexus will be the super phone of my dreams AND available for t-mobile.
Specs:
Quad Core Exynos LTE Enabled 1.5Ghz processor
2 GB of ram
16/32 GB storage (expandable)
12 Megapixel camera
4.7 inch 720p screen (retinaISH dpi) One X style, Iphone style, SuperAMOLED+ style idc aslong as its high pixel to screen size and beautiful
FM Radio (stop taking **** out of phones us carriers)
Pentaband
Huge REMOVABLE battery
2 Megapixel FFC
Notification LED
MHL
Jelly Bean +
Beat headphones lol (why not)
Dedicated Camera Button
I'm tired of phones getting ****ted on when they get here to America just so Mr. corporate can make mucho mas denero.
You could always hope Google releases and unlocked version
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For those of us still on a SGSII, no matter what the reason is (no money, no stock, price too high for s3, nothing worth a 2 year extension), what would make you upgrade?
For me I'm hoping that the next Nexus will be the super phone of my dreams AND available for t-mobile.
Specs:
Quad Core Exynos LTE Enabled 1.5Ghz processor
2 GB of ram
16/32 GB storage (expandable)
12 Megapixel camera
4.7 inch 720p screen (retinaISH dpi) One X style, Iphone style, SuperAMOLED+ style idc aslong as its high pixel to screen size and beautiful
FM Radio (stop taking **** out of phones us carriers)
Pentaband
Huge REMOVABLE battery
2 Megapixel FFC
Notification LED
MHL
Jelly Bean +
Beat headphones lol (why not)
Dedicated Camera Button
I'm tired of phones getting ****ted on when they get here to America just so Mr. corporate can make mucho mas denero.
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No beats because they are only optimized for crap headphones. Once you start (I know its not the best quality... but its better than any crap headphones I can buy) streaming to your done up car stereo, that can handle REAL audio quality... then you don't want any help at all.
Just today I discovered lows I never knew existed on one song because I'd never played it in my car.
Not to mention beats are just another brand grabbing money.
Other than that i like it.
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At first I thought those were the actual specs, I was like "DAMN I got to start saving money!!" but then I realized you were describing what you want, and now I am sad.....
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Money is always the reason.
If someone were to buy my phone for a decent price, I'd upgrade.
Other than my 2 years between upgrades being up, the things that would make me upgrade would be:
Much faster processor (better than Qualcomm S4)
720p non-pentile display
Overall size not significantly larger than t989
2gb ram
Most importantly for me: DAC as good as Wolfson
And nothing missing the t989 has. I'm extremely happy with my S2.
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Other than my 2 years between upgrades being up, the things that would make me upgrade would be:
Much faster processor (better than Qualcomm S4)
720p non-pentile display
Overall size not significantly larger than t989
2gb ram
Most importantly for me: DAC as good as Wolfson
And nothing missing the t989 has. I'm extremely happy with my S2.
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You hit the nail on the head with the wolfson dac. That things kicked SO MUCH ASS with my epic and nexus. Also I'd take a quad core s4 SoC over a quad exynos any day. 10 bucks says quad core s4 ass rapes the quad exynos when released. The dual core s4 krait SoC is the second fastest SoC out behind the quad exynos.
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But to answer the question the next nexus will make me upgrade. Having already been an ex nexus s owner I've experienced how much better the dev support was on that device. Worlds ahead. I had aokp on my nexus last year.. with the same exact features aokp milestone 6 has and more. With the nexus you could raise the wolfson dac 5 decibels above its stock setting for some AMAZING sound processing and you could tweak the amoled screens brightness contrast and colors with all with voodoo sound. I NEED that back in my life. Call me insane but I've considered taking the huge performance hit and going back to my old nexus s because of how amazing the benefits are over this t989.
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I meant Beats Audio Headphones that plus Wolfson DAC would be awesome.
I'm also talking in the box, you can always buy better headphones, but if i'm paying (600) 200+ for my upgrade then I want the best + as much free **** and features a phone can have!
The only way I'd upgrade is when the new nexus phones comes out ..Google support ftw..screw Samsung and their late releases. As great as their phones are..I can't buy anymore haha. Although their TVs are nice
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subzerold said:
I meant Beats Audio Headphones that plus Wolfson DAC would be awesome.
I'm also talking in the box, you can always buy better headphones, but if i'm paying (600) 200+ for my upgrade then I want the best + as much free **** and features a phone can have!
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Again... they're still crap for the money.
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Sighx said:
The only way I'd upgrade is when the new nexus phones comes out ..Google support ftw..screw Samsung and their late releases. As great as their phones are..I can't buy anymore haha. Although their TVs are nice
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Um sir... The last 2 Nexus' was made by Samsung. My guess is the next one will be too.
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Um sir... The last 2 Nexus' was made by Samsung. My guess is the next one will be too.
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He just means by buying a Samsung not nexus phone.
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Personally I am happy with my T989 and am in no hurry to upgrade for at least a while.. This phone works superbly and handles everything I throw at it, and is in no way outdated.
If you are the type of person who has to have the latest and greatest then who am I to argue with you. Go ahead and upgrade
But I'll stay where I am at least for another generation because Is phone still works as advertised
I like my Roms the way I like my women..... Clean and smooth
I know that . Samsung can still make the phone. However, its Google who supports the phone.
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Not doing any upgrading until tmo has their lte network up and running... Can't wait to see what kind of handsets they will have for that
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Personally I am happy with my T989 and am in no hurry to upgrade for at least a while.. This phone works superbly and handles everything I throw at it, and is in no way outdated.
If you are the type of person who has to have the latest and greatest then who am I to argue with you. Go ahead and upgrade
But I'll stay where I am at least for another generation because Is phone still works as advertised
I like my Roms the way I like my women..... Clean and smooth
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Truthfully, this. I know we're all here cause we care about benchmarks and the latest software, but I can't think of anything I want to do on this phone that it can't deliver.
I'm pretty happy with my phone now too. One of my friends just got an s3 & I got to play with it for a while last night, and I can honestly say I was NOT blown away. I ran some benchmarks on it and my phone either came out ahead or VERY close on each test. I'm sure it's probably all due to software, but still. I thought the screen on mine looked better too, honestly. I could see the pixels more clearly on his even though it's higher-res. I'm perfectly happy with the t989's performance, the only thing that could make me upgrade would be a significantly larger display since I'm a size queen, lol... I've heard that the Note will be coming to T-Mo this month, so that's what I'm saving my pennies for
I agree if the nexus came out for tmo I'd hop on it quick!
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Nothing.
I don' t NEED the latest greatest, BUT, ONE THING that would make me upgrade, a camera capable of shooting over 200dpi, NOT the 72dpi garbage we're being given.
Otherwise, the SG2 is an EXTREMELY capable phone and they (manufacturers) are just tossing little bones to try and get people to ugprade and keep up with the Jones'..
....forget it, no thanks.
Saving my money.