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Greetings,
I am planning to buy the HTC desire 2day .. but am living in egypt.. so we didnt get the froyo update yet :/ .. so i was wondering if the lvl 1 rooting (named shell rooting) done to the desire using this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682 will allow me to install apps to the sd card and installing themes maybe.. because those are the only 2 things that i need that cant be done in the 2.1 stock ROM
I used the search feature.. but couldn't find anything about rooting levels .. the above thread mention there are 3 levels of rooting.. so i dont really know the difference.. never owned an android device before
Oh .. and i bricked my last htc phone after flashing a rom.. so i wont ever flash a custom rom again.. so here goes my next question.. i can root the phone and use the stock rom while enjoying the rooting features or do i have to install a custom rom? and when the official middle east froyo update is released can i easily unroot the phone and install the new update?
Kindly reply, i will wait for the reply b4 i buy the phone
Thnx in advance
Fady_0 said:
Greetings,
I am planning to buy the HTC desire 2day .. but am living in egypt.. so we didnt get the froyo update yet :/ .. so i was wondering if the lvl 1 rooting (named shell rooting) done to the desire using this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682 will allow me to install apps to the sd card and installing themes maybe.. because those are the only 2 things that i need that cant be done in the 2.1 stock ROM
I used the search feature.. but couldn't find anything about rooting levels .. the above thread mention there are 3 levels of rooting.. so i dont really know the difference.. never owned an android device before
Oh .. and i bricked my last htc phone after flashing a rom.. so i wont ever flash a custom rom again.. so here goes my next question.. i can root the phone and use the stock rom while enjoying the rooting features or do i have to install a custom rom? and when the official middle east froyo update is released can i easily unroot the phone and install the new update?
Kindly reply, i will wait for the reply b4 i buy the phone
Thnx in advance
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yes shell rooting will let you do everything you want to do, the only thing it lacks is write access to the nand chip while the device is booted, but it does allow it from recovery, dont worry about bricking, unrevoked is fool proof now
Thanks for the reply
Okay last 5 questions lol ... plz bear with me... as i cant really risk losing another 700$ phone
1- am a bit confused... should i use unrevoked rooting or the lvl 1 rooting mentioned in link in the above post .. which one allows me to install apps on sd card and install themes with minimum alteration to the stock rom? anyone of them is 100% safe?
2- i can continue using my stock rom and still enjoy the rooting features.. no need to flash custom roms .. right?
3-am i going to be able to update my rooted phone when the official froyo is released or do i have to unroot it?
4- lets say that for any reason i have to use the phone's warranty ... so i have to unroot my phone 1st b4 going to htc .. is it easily done?
5- a bit offtopic: The only way i found to change themes without altering the stock rom is using 3 apps called : PandaHome,OpenHome and aHome (themes for these apps are even posted on the android market) .. but the thing is .. do they require a vanilla android or they are compatible with sense ui too?
Fady_0 said:
Thanks for the reply
Okay last 4 questions lol ... plz bear with me... as i cant really risk losing another 700$ phone
1- am a bit confused... should i use unrevoked rooting or the lvl 1 rooting mentioned in link in the above post .. which one allows me to install apps on sd card and install themes with minimum alteration to the stock rom? anyone of them is 100% safe?
2- i can continue using my stock rom and still enjoy the rooting features.. no need to flash custom roms .. right?
3-am i going to be able to update my rooted phone when the official froyo is released or do i have to unroot it?
4- lets say that for any reason i have to use the phone's warranty ... so i have to unroot my phone 1st b4 going to htc .. is it easily done?
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1 unrevoked imho is more simple and more popular and tested
2 corect
3 you have to unroot
4 easier than rooting just download ruu file, run on your pc connected to phone and thats all. U will loose root+old rom+data+custom recovery image
BTW greetings to Egypt! Been there (HRG) at february and it was warm and nice
Fady_0 said:
Thanks for the reply
Okay last 5 questions lol ... plz bear with me... as i cant really risk losing another 700$ phone
1- am a bit confused... should i use unrevoked rooting or the lvl 1 rooting mentioned in link in the above post .. which one allows me to install apps on sd card and install themes with minimum alteration to the stock rom? anyone of them is 100% safe?
2- i can continue using my stock rom and still enjoy the rooting features.. no need to flash custom roms .. right?
3-am i going to be able to update my rooted phone when the official froyo is released or do i have to unroot it?
4- lets say that for any reason i have to use the phone's warranty ... so i have to unroot my phone 1st b4 going to htc .. is it easily done?
5- a bit offtopic: The only way i found to change themes without altering the stock rom is using 3 apps called : PandaHome,OpenHome and aHome (themes for these apps are even posted on the android market) .. but the thing is .. do they require a vanilla android or they are compatible with sense ui too?
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1. Go with Unrevoked, it's safe and most commonly used method for rooting HTC Desires, check your Hboot version beforehand to see if it's compatible (it should be if you're on 2.1 eclair) and just make sure you read the guide properly first and nothing should go wrong
Rooting will not give you A2SD or A2SD+, you'll have to install a custom ROM to get those benefits (or wait for Froyo with its own Apps2SD function)
You also won't be able to flash themes as the stock ROM is odexed and won't support it, you'll need to flash a deodexed custom ROM for that.. although you can use apps like LauncherPro to customise your phone a little.
2. Yup, rooting doesn't mean you have to change the ROM, it just means you have the choice to through the additional Recovery program installed during rooting
3. You can apply the OTA froyo update, it'll unroot your phone though.. you could use Unrevoked again to get root afterwards
4. I would definitely recommend unrooting the phone if possible before running a warranty claim, I haven't had to do it but I've read it's relatively easy
5. All the launcher/home replacements should work fine with Sense, i've got LauncherPro/Sense/Launcher2 (vanilla android home) all working fine on mine, just install ClearDefaultsHome so you can choose which Home screen you want
The safe option is wait for the Froyo update, it'll give you Apps2SD.. but personally I'm glad I rooted and flashed a custom ROM, made the phone so much better! It to follow all the rooting/flashing tutorials properly then you should be fine, though obviously there are risks involved.. as you already know!
Well, thanks to ur replies guys .. i am now the proud owner of an htc desire! :d
I have a motorola defy with android 2.1 eclair(2.1-update1). and motoblur version 2.21.0.MB525.Retail.en.GB. and its been a while since the 2.2 update is out. bt when i goto system updates in the settings menu and search for updates, i am told that no update is available. i wanna know y. and i dont know any other way to update my device. kindly show me how to update.
Another thing is that i thought of rooting my device but i didnt find any benefits for me to root.
I wanna know that if i root my device. will i loose motoblur? because i really like it. and if rooting can delete motoblur. if i unroot it, will i get motoblur back?
i am really lookin forward for help.
my cousin has a t-mobile version and he has successfully updated his device. and its faster and smoother than mine. so i really need help.
thanks
OTA update availability is dependent on your carrier, check the moto website for your region instead.
Root just enhances rights but won't delete motoblur or anything. If don't see a need to root, you don't need to root naturally.
CM7 still very smooth with a
cm7 is what and whys is it cool?
@abc_universal. thanks. i think i vl root tell me any easier way to root
CM7 is a custom rom that can be run on the Defy, it is very fast, and has a new feel. Look it up on youtube!
Root your device using SuperOneClick. Much easier.
if you feel there is no need to root, and happy with your ROM, then why root? no need to root just because the world roots their phone. if you feel that you need to maximise your phone potential, rooting is the way to go, but you gotta be more hardworking and learn up more about rooting and stuffs before doing it
cm7 is snappy but there isnt any motoblur. so no contacts frm facebook. no facebook integration well i thnk i'll root first.
can someone tell me where to find superoneclick?
hammadvenom said:
cm7 is snappy but there isnt any motoblur. so no contacts frm facebook. no facebook integration well i thnk i'll root first.
can someone tell me where to find superoneclick?
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Get facebook from other Apps.
The first google search result for "superoneclick" is just what you are looking for..
I waited for so long for the 2.2 update for the defy couldn't resist any longer so i updated to the SEA-15 couldn't be happier its nice and stable haven't had any troubles so far i have used the cm7 i loved that to but never could get the market i have installed gapps but still never showed.
yes, CM7 is far better than motoblur crap.
and it's gingerbread already.
do i need to root if want to install that cm7?
and where can i download the latest cm7?
first im sorry to post here, tried to create a new thread but it wouldnt let me cause im a "new user"
Hello everyone.......
I know there are many posts on this topic .. I've been reading whole night last night but I couldn't find the answer... tried so many things - Z4root, super 1 click root and etc. but I can't get my phone to root. In z4root it just goes back to home screen some time after I start the program and the phone is not rooted. In Superoneclick it says Failed at the end after being unable to push the busybox or whatever its name was.. I just updated my phone about a week or so ago cause I thought 22 is out.. instead I got this lazy update for 21 which now I see could be the reason the phone can't root. I should've rooted it earlier anyway here are my specs:
Sys Version Moto Version 2 51 1 MBM525 Retail en CEE
Firmware Version 2 1 update1
APflex Version GAS ASIA USAJORDANRTCEE P031
Anyone can offer a way to root that is reversible? I don't wanna root If I'm gonna be unable to unroot it later. It probably won't have problems with the root and after (when i make a backup) but my phone is only 6 months old and I have 1.5 yrs left warranty.. and I'm like 99% sure that if they see the phone is rooted they're gonna void my warranty. Again sorry for the duplicate thread but again I read so many threads and I couldn't find a way to root it.. also if you wanna know the reason I decided to root - ad-hoc. I just got a wireless adapter and realized android doesn't work with ad-hoc but then I saw that there is a fix.. still this fix requires rooted phone. ANd that's it
Well.. the easiest method is to update to 2.2 and then root with SuperOneClick. SHould work and is reversible. Plus, the 2.2 Update is getting rolled out anyway.
If you don't wanna update, you might want to give a full wipe a try.
I wanna update it's just that the 2.2 is not out yet for my phone. Still I tried with factory reset and still can't root.. I guess it's this update. I hope it's gonna be able to root at 2.2 update.. cause I don't wanna flash non-factory ROMs, just wanted to get root privileges.
Well.. it is available for your phone. You have a Defy.
For me, at last a fresh .sbf flash with RSD Lite solves every problem. But it is on your behalf, if you wanna flash a rom yourself or not.
Thing is I don't want to flash it I want a stock regular rom update from Motorola :/
S4nDr0 said:
Thing is I don't want to flash it I want a stock regular rom update from Motorola :/
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Me too bt 2.2 is only available for t mobile.
I have a Tmo Defy also and updated to the stock 2.2...
I personally rooted using GingerBreak.apk which was very easy to do and from there i downloaded Root Explorer and weeded out alot of the MotoBlur crap that was slowing down the phone...
Then i downloaded Milestone Overclock from the market and SetCPU and overclocked it to be running as a 1GHZ speed and after getting rid of the MotoBlur crap im easily getting 35 hours of battery life on one charge and it is sooo much quicker to respond to everything..
My answer to why root the phone is to make it the phone that it should be without the drag of all the other junk..
But thats just my opinion..
Hi guys I am a newbie here and need some help I have read through a few posts and still don't fully understand things to my specific needs I recently de-branded and rooted a xperia play and things went well I used some software that I was told to use and then used gingerbreak excellent stuff but now I have another query.
I have an xperia play running android 2.3.3 with the build version 4.0.A.2.368 originally the handset was on Vodafone I bought it 2nd hand and put my t-mobile sim card in and everything works fine, I have apps on there that relate to Vodafone customers e.g Vodafone store Vodafone updates and something called qype I do not want these an can not uninstall them there is also the apps that came with the 2.3.3 update like the wise pilot app that I don't need and want to remove. I also keep getting low storage warning and cant see why as I only have a few apps installed an about 10 games most of which I have moved to sd card using the built in option.
I have read about not being able to use gingerbreak with 2.3.3 I have read about downgrading to 2.3.2 and then using OTA to update but what I don't want todo is loose my games and apps that are on my fone can anybody tell me if this is possible and how I can do this. I don't want todo anything fancy like over-clocking I just want a way to free up space move apps to the sd card and remove the unwanted apps that I don't need.
I do apologize if this has already been discussed before I have searched and cannot find anything.
Look for thread in the dev section on how to root with zergRush, that should do it even on 2.3.3
And there's a thread about wich apps are safe to delete/freeze. Think it's located in the general section.
Regards Dousan...
thanks i will give this a try a bit later gona backup all the data i can just to stay on the safe side before going head with the it.
You can downgrade to 2.3.2 without loosing your data,just uncheck the ''Wipe data '' box,gingerbreak and then ota to 2.3.3 and you have root on 2.3.3 without data loss
Ok. I would be glad if someone could point me in the right direction here, and answer this question.
I am planning on buying an Xplay, mainly for phoning and gaming. I am very keen on keeping the Xplay "clean" and fast, and therefore wish to remove all bloatware from the beginning.
Could someone point me in a direction to where to start when I first unpack my phone? Should I accept all the updates and so on? What´s the best thing to do if I want to remove the bloatware. I might as well say that I´m pretty much a beginner when it comes to all the terms "rooting" and stuff. But I want to do it a safe way, without taking risks of breaking or bricking anything.
Thanks.
Some of the bloatware can be simply uninstalled, some cannot. For the latter you need to root your phone. I like to use SuperOneClick for rooting. Note that some firmwares (the ones whose version ends with .62 or greater) cannot be rooted, so I wouldn't update to them.
Once rooted, removing the bloatware is pretty simple. The most common way is to use Titanium Backup to uninstall it or you can even do it manually by deleting the relevant .apk files from /system/app.
Root your phone ,this is the first step that you must to do. After rooting ,you can remove bloatware from your phone and gain more free space on you internal memory.
I think that the best rooting way is the (zergRush Method):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312859
After rooting ,download 'Root Explorer' ,go to system/app and remove all the things you don't need.
If you are getting an AT&T Xplay I would suggest installing the generic north American rom which is 2.3.4 and missing the AT&T bloat. I backed up the games from the stock rom first then installed the NA rom and reinstalled them.
First use pc companion and install the latest update. Then root and remove bloat and get everything set up like your contacts and apps. After that install cwm and make a nandroid backup and start flashing roms! Back-up your info if the rom won't carry it over. Optional: Unlock bootloader before roms. There are plenty of stock based roms to for people with locked bootloaders.
EDIT: Don't do the below, just read you don't want risk!
1. Unlock the bootloader
2. Use flashtool to install a generic ROM .FTF file (.368 has CRT animation but is old, .42 is good, .62 is good)
3. Install a kernel (DooM's is great). This will allow you to overclock, and give automatic ROOT (no need to exploit or install anything else)
4. Buy/acquire an app called "Titanium Backup" (it needs ROOT to run), and check the guide in these forums for which apps are safe to remove
The first thing to do? Here's a list:
1. READ everything you can find related to your model version of the Play. There are different versions depending on where you are in the world and who your service provider is. If you have a GSM capable phone (Europe, Canada, ATT in US just to name a few), you will have a lot more modification options available. If you have a CDMA capable phone (Verizon), you have fewer choices but there are more coming almost every day.
2. READ again - you know you only understood maybe a 10th of what you just read!
3. POST specific questions AFTER you have searched the forums. Don't be afraid to try Google - that's what it's there for.
4. THINK !!! - what is it that you expect to get from modifying your phone that it doesn't do now? If you just want to remove bloatware, you can simply root, install a custom recovery, make a backup and then go to town. No need for unlocking the bootloader or loading a custom rom.
5. SLOW DOWN !!! - don't be in such a hurry to modify your phone that you leap before you look. Most bricked phones could be avoided in the first place by taking time to understand the steps involved before making changes.
6. DON'T PANIC !!! - There are very few things you can do to your phone that the experienced folks here on the forums can't help you resolved.
7. HAVE FUN !!!
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Potato13 said:
First use pc companion and install the latest update. Then root and remove bloat and get everything set up like your contacts and apps. After that install cwm and make a nandroid backup and start flashing roms! Back-up your info if the rom won't carry it over. Optional: Unlock bootloader before roms. There are plenty of stock based roms to for people with locked bootloaders.
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Not necessarily. If you install some of the latest updates, you no longer can root. That's why some research needs to be done first.
Search google and read xda forums on a daily basis. That's the shortest route lol
1. Root using zergrush or use flashtool rooting feature
2. Unlock bootloader (this will void your warranty)
3. Install clockworkmod 5.0.2.7 for xperia phones (get it free on play store fka android market)
4. Install titanium backup and perform batch backup of your apps to your sd card
5. Get doomlord's kernel v11 (link is on my signature) and wifi modules
6. Reboot into recovery and hold down or tap volume down to enter CWM recovery
7. Flash the kernel, then reboot and flash the wifi module
8. Flash your custom rom
9. There your phone is bricked! Haha
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4. THINK !!! - what is it that you expect to get from modifying your phone that it doesn't do now? If you just want to remove bloatware, you can simply root, install a custom recovery, make a backup and then go to town. No need for unlocking the bootloader or loading a custom rom.
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Thanks for the input.
The only thing that I plan to do, is probably just remove bloatware and nothing more. So I guess it´s just down to rooting the phone then, and delete the things that I don´t want? No need for unlocking bootloaders etc.?
Is there a list of what stuff that can be deleted? Or other things that can be achieved by only rooting the phone?
And the last question. Is it totally ok to accept android updates after the rooting and removing of bloatware?
silmes said:
Thanks for the input.
The only thing that I plan to do, is probably just remove bloatware and nothing more. So I guess it´s just down to rooting the phone then, and delete the things that I don´t want? No need for unlocking bootloaders etc.?
Is there a list of what stuff that can be deleted? Or other things that can be achieved by only rooting the phone?
And the last question. Is it totally ok to accept android updates after the rooting and removing of bloatware?
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If you aren't going to get into custom kernels and overclocking, then no, you can do what you want without unlocking the bootloader.
There are some links in General and here in Q & A that make suggestions of what can be removed safely.
If you only rooted and didn't remove anything, you could accept updates. If you remove bloatware, the update won't even install. That's why I suggest installing CWM (ClockWorkMod) Recovery and doing a Nandroid Backup after you root but before you debloat.
Here are some useful links for you:
Rooted (Locked Bootloader) Phone - App Removal (Safe List)
[GUIDE] R800x owners - You got Custom ROM questions? I've got Answers!
The second one there was one I posted up for R800x users with locked bootloaders. It was all the stuff I had to glean for myself when mine was locked.
Hope this helps.
Sigh...hope this isn't too late.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23845116#post23845116
First thing: Root right away with Flashtool (http://androxyde.github.com/) and don't listen to the others, the Flashtool nowdays contains the Exploit that you need and it works perfect to root on 2.3.4 (I did it myself when I root'd mine the first time).
I am planning on buying an Xplay, mainly for phoning and gaming. I am very keen on keeping the Xplay "clean" and fast, and therefore wish to remove all bloatware from the beginning.
I recommend the Titanium Backup as all the others, and you can use this list as help: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046699&highlight=remove+app+list
Could someone point me in a direction to where to start when I first unpack my phone? Should I accept all the updates and so on?
Yes, do that first of all before you go ahead and root your device.
Q: Could someone point me in a direction to where to start when I first unpack my phone? Should I accept all the updates and so on?
A: Yes, do that first of all before you go ahead and root your device.
The interesting thing is that the answer to this seems to differ on who you ask. Further back in this thread, someone advised me NOT to update, as it might lead to problems when trying to root my phone. What´s the deal here?
silmes said:
Q: Could someone point me in a direction to where to start when I first unpack my phone? Should I accept all the updates and so on?
A: Yes, do that first of all before you go ahead and root your device.
The interesting thing is that the answer to this seems to differ on who you ask. Further back in this thread, someone advised me NOT to update, as it might lead to problems when trying to root my phone. What´s the deal here?
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If you update to the .62 firmware you can't root.
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silmes said:
Q: Could someone point me in a direction to where to start when I first unpack my phone? Should I accept all the updates and so on?
A: Yes, do that first of all before you go ahead and root your device.
The interesting thing is that the answer to this seems to differ on who you ask. Further back in this thread, someone advised me NOT to update, as it might lead to problems when trying to root my phone. What´s the deal here?
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That's because it differs between models and some people aren't aware of that, while others like to be argumentative!
If you have a Verizon R800x Play, our firmware only goes up to Version 2.3.3 (3.0.1.E.0.88). If yours comes with 2.3.2, you're safe to update. You will be able to root with no problem.
If you have one of the other phones, you can apply updates below 4.0.2.A.0.62 and still root. .62 and higher, no root.
Check out this thread [HOW-TO] Root Phones w/ Android v2.2.x-2.3.x (zergRush Method) for additional information.
Hi folks,
I've had my Z2 stolen a few days ago and I'm going to get a Z1 compact to replace it. Sad story I know
Now I have a simple enough quesiton. The device itself comes with Android 4.3 and 16 GB of internal storage.
One thing that bothered me on Z2 was that I couldn't move the apps to the SD card, but with Android 4.3 I can.
When I get the Z1c next week I plan to root it, after taking a backup of the TA partition of course, but then I wonder will I be able to move the apps to SD storage and are there any issues with this?
It's my first 4.4 device that will be rooted, I was reluctant to root the Z2 since there was no way to backup the DRM keys, so I'm not aware of any limitations or drawbacks of upgrading to the latest version of Android.
I don't mind staying on 4.3 if that's the advice from the community
Thanks!
daxdax89 said:
go kitkat
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Thanks mate!
Should I root first, or let the phone update itself first?
And last question - is there an app or hack for KitKat to easily move applications and data to SD card?
I used to do it with Titanium Backup Pro, but I'm not sure that option exists anymore.
crótach said:
Thanks mate!
Should I root first, or let the phone update itself first?
And last question - is there an app or hack for KitKat to easily move applications and data to SD card?
I used to do it with Titanium Backup Pro, but I'm not sure that option exists anymore.
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Theres an Xposed module to enable the old behaviour of the external Memory Access. It's called HandleExternalStorage