Members...can you please suggest some good & completely working ROMs for G2 (with Sense 3.0 preferably) ...
Havent tried them yet, since im still unrooted, but i've done some extensive research of the available roms with sense (reading through all the threads, and comments...) and have narrowed the list with a top 3 which im considering using:
in order of preference (from what i've researched of course...and this is personal):
1)MikRunny v1.01
2)RunnyDrOiD v3.0
3)BeatMod BlissSense Hybrid
Hope this helps, but again, havent tried them yet...
Android 4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1428866
If you're looking for something with Sense I would recommend Virtuous or CoreDroid ROMs.
http://www.virtuousrom.com/
http://www.coredroidroms.com/site/
different releases of those you can find in the development section aswell.
so far I've tested Affinity and Unity latest releases from Virtuous and they seem fine.
If you would change your mind and rather want a smooth fast ROM instead a Sense one (that's pretty much the deal I guess, Sense ROM are propably always slower) I would tell you to go for Virtuous G-lite:
[ROM][12/12/2011] Virtuous G-Lite v2.0.1 :: GB AOSP HTC/G2 base 2.16.531.5
Running it atm, makes me really satisfied I rooted my phone
Ofc there are many other CM7 based ROMs around, you just have to try them out yourself to find what suits you best I guess.
Goodluck
coldsun15 said:
havent tried them yet, since im still unrooted, but i've done some extensive research of the available roms with sense (reading through all the threads, and comments...) and have narrowed the list with a top 3 which im considering using:
In order of preference (from what i've researched of course...and this is personal):
1)mikrunny v1.01
2)runnydroid v3.0
3)beatmod blisssense hybrid
hope this helps, but again, havent tried them yet...
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bro ..the above roms seems for desire hd!! Will they work with the g2 ??
eternalchrist99 said:
bro ..the above roms seems for desire hd!! Will they work with the g2 ??
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well, they are posted on the desire z sections (in desire z/g2 dev section), so they should be...and i know beatmod blissSense says that it supports desire z/g2...think the other one say so too
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maybe this can help... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1376496 (this is not written by me...)
Unity works good
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Most every ROM in the development section is "good and completely working" aside from a couple listed as alphas, and the ICS ROMs (which still have some bugs, but many still use as daily drivers).
There is no "best" ROM. It depends on your personal needs and preferences. Asking what is "best" is an insult to the developers that put a lot of time and effort to get these ROMs to us. Threads like this are tiresome, since they get asked all the time. Just browse or search the forum, and you will find plenty of suggestions.
If you like fast and simple look go with CM7
It is a valid question
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Most every ROM in the development section is "good and completely working" aside from a couple listed as alphas, and the ICS ROMs (which still have some bugs, but many still use as daily drivers).
There is no "best" ROM. It depends on your personal needs and preferences. Asking what is "best" is an insult to the developers that put a lot of time and effort to get these ROMs to us. Threads like this are tiresome, since they get asked all the time. Just browse or search the forum, and you will find plenty of suggestions.
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No need to be harsh; Not all ROM's are the same, there are some which perform better than others. We do appreciate the work being done by developers, but I think you were unfairly harsh to the person who asked that question. It is a valid question
Why Sense?
Far as ICS Roms go, the one in my signature has been my favorite of the batches (basically a customized Rom using the CM9 Kernel with AOKP user base and his own G2/Vision specific tweaks).
my favorite sense roms were Virtuous Primadonna v1.21.0 Alpha 3 and InsertCoin Vision v1.7.1. out of sense 3.0-4.0 roms that i tried only the primadona had a working camera but audio recording didn't work in some apps. those roms are pretty slow... if you really want sense i'd recommend InsertCoin Vision v1.7.1. it was the only one that had working camera and audio that i tested. in any event you'll eventually get annoyed with how slow all the sense roms are if you like tweaking your phone often. that's why i switched to ics. the adroma mimicry is the fastest rom i've tried.
Andromadus Mimicry (1.1.2) gives you ICS in CM9 flavour with some additional tweaks (V6 supercharger, OC daemon etc.) and customizations (boot animation). Some of them you can choose at install time. It's fastest and most stable CM9 based ROM so far. I'm using it as a daily driver and I am fully satisfied.
I agree with people suggesting AOSP ICS ROMs. I also liked Sense until I tried CM9 beta for the first time and now I don't think that I'll ever use Sense again. You can try this one (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1687324) if you want something that resembles Sense 4, but is fully functional unlike current Sense 4 ROMs for DZ.
I'd suggest you try the one in my sig, though, that's what I'm using right now and it's really fast and stable, but I don't think you can go wrong with any CM9 based ROM, they differentiate only in details.
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i recently rooted my phone and flashed arhd, and got some great help and advice from here regarding which rom to start with.
Now i am see`ing new roms, updated versions and am struggling to choose again - from what i can tell there are 3 x varieties - one that has sense, one without sense and a miui version, and then in al lthe threads of the seperate varieties they all seem to have the identicle set up - and same issues - most recent being no wifi connection, so an updated rom is released.
do people really flash a rom daily? or do you just stick with one that works?
i would like to have some sense 3 bits, but every rom seems to be sufferign the same problems and they all look the same except a different kernal is used, how do i choose?
Im after using a good few of the roms now and I was using CM7 since it came out. Yesterday I changed to honeysense HD and I must say I love it. I use SPB 3D shell launcher so it looks basically the same as alot of the other ones anyways but there are a few nice little changes in it that I love. You should seriously think about trying it. You wont be sad you tried it.
It's pure personal preference.
I have worked my way around judt about all the different flavour ROMs but my fav choice is resting solidly on the COREDROID Rom.
Just take some time and try each one I am sure you will find one you like. Ad for flashing all the time I did initialy but I settled down and the ROMs get better each time a new version is released.
Have fun
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I have just started getting into this and for the first few weeks flashed pretty much most roms that were available. I then found the MIUI rom and fell in love with it.
Coredroid is my favorite one of the sense type roms
It is down to personal preference and best thing to do is try a few of em and I'm sure you will find one that you like
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i recently rooted my phone and flashed arhd, and got some great help and advice from here regarding which rom to start with.
Now i am see`ing new roms, updated versions and am struggling to choose again - from what i can tell there are 3 x varieties - one that has sense, one without sense and a miui version, and then in al lthe threads of the seperate varieties they all seem to have the identicle set up - and same issues - most recent being no wifi connection, so an updated rom is released.
do people really flash a rom daily? or do you just stick with one that works?
i would like to have some sense 3 bits, but every rom seems to be sufferign the same problems and they all look the same except a different kernal is used, how do i choose?
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thats excatlly what i was going thru. I'm the kinda guy who flashes almost daily
I have had a run of almost all of them.
If you want to have pure sense 3 experience then RCmix kingdom is the one you could go for.But as it is still in beta/development stage you should expect few bug's here and there.
If you dont want to have bugs and have sense 3.0 parts (lockscreen,camera....) then i personally suggest lee driod or andriod revolution rom's with sense 3.0 addon's they are both stable rom's with very few issue's in them.
I'm currently am on RCmix 5.9 (Old school ) with sense 3.0 addons in it with lee's kernel.
On the other side Miui freshly squeezed is the best you could find which is close to sense like experience with the power of CM 7. Give it a try i'm sure it will tempt you to forget sense for a while
Hope this help you out
Happy flashing
HoneySense
I am using the Honeysense HD rom. It is great, the dev is very dedicated and releases updates very quickly.
I was looking at honeysense. Looks good from images and thread messages. Cheers for replies everyone.
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I'm running Coredroid and have been very happy with it.
t3rm3y said:
i recently rooted my phone and flashed arhd, and got some great help and advice from here regarding which rom to start with.
Now i am see`ing new roms, updated versions and am struggling to choose again - from what i can tell there are 3 x varieties - one that has sense, one without sense and a miui version, and then in al lthe threads of the seperate varieties they all seem to have the identicle set up - and same issues - most recent being no wifi connection, so an updated rom is released.
do people really flash a rom daily? or do you just stick with one that works?
i would like to have some sense 3 bits, but every rom seems to be sufferign the same problems and they all look the same except a different kernal is used, how do i choose?
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DUDE!! If you have DHD then the ROM(s) to follow are LeeDroid and RCMIX Kingdom.. At the moment both have released newer versions of their ROMS so you just need to see which ROM works best for you and of course for your device ;o)
Lee has a mixture of Sense 2.1 and 3.0 and RCMIX Kingdom has Sense 3.0 but after flashing RCMIX's Rom it says Sense 2.1..I THINK it's still a bug BUT his ROM is superb.. The battery life might be a bit annoying but thank GOD for the extra battery ( if your SP provided you with an extra .. of course )..hehhe!
MIUI should not be option on your DHD cos I personally think that the phone was built around Sense and I don't think that MIUI has any Sense version on it..
MIUI might look super cool but try LeeDroid OR RCMIX's first before you move to MIUI..>>> OR VICE VERSA ;o)
Hope my 2 cents comment helps you ;o)
Spent my first week changing and trying different ROMs.
Started worth arhd since it has great doc for newbies.
Then, tried all other sense rom and stayed a while with lee droid.
Switched to cm7 then to mdj cm7.1. Stayed there a long time. Close to a month.
Then back to sense since I want panorama! And tried tb and mdj vivo.
Now on vivo.
Think I'll stick with mdj.s rom.
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t3rm3y said:
i would like to have some sense 3 bits, but every rom seems to be sufferign the same problems and they all look the same except a different kernal is used, how do i choose?
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if you want sense 3 then i recommend you ioos rom.
cause its true sense without any extra's.
so far no issues for me.
Had the same problems. I tried virtually all roms, from sense to no sense. Like IOO sense 3 rom so much. CM 7 & MIUI are just not my thing. The best rom in my opinion right now is VIVO. Its very smooth, the battery life is amazing, minimal bugs report. But at the end its a matter of personal choice.
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I have been using Honeysense HD since i rooted 2 weeks ago and found it to be very pretty without many problems the only thing i cant seem to sort out is my battery life 100% at 10.20pm put phone on standby and at 5am i'm at 75%. Thinking i'll try another ROM.
I've tried ARHD, MIUI, LeeDroid and CM7. After all this I choose to switch between ARHD and MIUI freshly squeezed edition, but I still prefer ARHD for its stability and good battery life.
Guys,
Which is the best Andriod 2.3 rom for HTC desire?
rdineshh said:
Guys,
Which is the best Andriod 2.3 rom for HTC desire?
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Take a look of this section of the forum to find the most suitable rom for you!
I'm very happy with CM7 nightlies. But if you want Sense, you should try the Kingdom port.
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Oxygen 2.1.3!!!!
rdineshh said:
Guys,
Which is the best Andriod 2.3 rom for HTC desire?
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In my opinion the question is not "Witch is the best Android 2.3 rom for HTC Desire ?", it is " Witch of these Android 2.3 roms is more suitable for me ?"
I say that becouse i try all the roms from the launch of HTC Desire until now and i like all of them. I`ve had miui rom for like an haf a year at the start, becouse i didn`t like so much Android 2.2 froyo, then i migrate to the cook of devs around XDA, and CM7, Oxygen also.
I think that, when you have a free day, you should try these roms: MIUI, CM7, the one made by baadnewz, it`s much stable than the others for now, the one made by Alex (i like his roms from when he start doing stuff for HTC Desire).
I think these is the big categories made by me.
Personaly i like and use for now the one made by baadnewz (the stable v1.0.8)
If youd like effects you shoud try MIUI first.
If youd like simplicity and speed you shoud try CM7.
If youd like sense and a little speed you shoud try the one made by baadnewz.
Without anger, i apreciate all the work from all the devs around here. I have a big respect upon them (i`m not able to do anything then flash a rom )
This is just my opinion.
MIUI of course
I think the question is incorrect. Everyone chooses what he likes, what fits his needs more.
Want latest HTC Sense, that was not designed for Desire, but theoretically can run there - go for RCMixS
Want slim and quick but naked ROM - go for Oxigen
What pros of CM I don't know. Basically it's like fat Oxygen, with added features.
Despite they look different, but have very similar concept of UI. MIUI has different approach, which for my taste is much more successful. As it claims on MIUI official website, it takes best of Android and iPhone. Totally agree. Tried latest RCMixS after I tested MIUI and couldn't keep it even couple days, returned back to MIUI.
But it's of course my opinion.
Non-existent!
rdineshh said:
Guys,
Which is the best Andriod 2.3 rom for HTC desire?
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Sorry, but there's no such thing as "the best ROM" for any device. There's ROM's you like and ROM's you don't. That's like asking what's the best film, or best music track, or best food. Everyone has their own opinion which is why life is so much fun!
Personally, I've been using Baadnewz InsertCoin Nightly for weeks (now on v43). Superb Gingerbread ROM and lot's of great features from Sense 3 too
I prefer insertcoin. Very fast, no lags, bugs - everything is ok
This is Development forum and I believe this thread needs to be moved.
And I rather prefer Oxygen Everyone basically likes different ROM, but better one is with smaller amount of bugs
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Hi.
I´m addicted to InsertCoin too.
If you want a Great ROM , Insertcoin will be your daily driver ))
I User IC v43, withe Alex Diaz Theme 13 (Found on IC Downloadpage too)
But i suggest, you download 2-3 ROM´s you "like", and install them, and find out which one is Great for you
Greez
Joachim
stop spamming here its a dev section
Since I got the phone with Sense on it I take preference to Sense ROMS, I have also tried MIUI and AOSP ROMS like Cyanogen and GingerVillain all of them offer something that the other would be lacking.
So for me out of the 3 variants these are what I use,
• Sense ROM: Reflex S
• AOSP ROM: GingerVillain
• MIUI ROM: MIUI XJ
I use all of them and I change every few weeks when I feel for a change of scenery, they all for are the best ROM because they are made by the best developers.
As for the BEST ROM for you, thats is your decision!!!
A very generic question in a wrong section.
Hi,
I think this post is usefull so different users can state why they choose this or that ROM.
In my case I currently use MIUI (from XJ) mostly because that ROM is fast, has a very nice interface, the menus are very different from stock android, the phone/dial and messages apps are great. However sometimes I get some FCs in Camera app so sometimes I like to install the Leedroid Sense ROM as I also like he Sense UI. However in the last Leedroid ROMs the notifications area is too transparent so some notifications are hard to see (not sure if you can change that) so I get back to MIUI.
After reading this thread I'm now going to try the insertcoin ROM and maybe the CM7. The only thing with non sense roms is the phone/dial app, even apps like Go Contacts are not as fast and usefull as the one with sense or MIUI.
Of course there's no such thing as the best ROM, but for each person there are some ROMS that are better.
Cheers.
There is no best rom. It depends on personal preferences.
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Ok so change the question a bit. Whats the fastest rom "Benchmark wise" the fastest i have found is oxygen 2.1.3 all others are slightly slower. Also another question i have is can you flash things from one gb rom to another like for example "Volume button music track skip?" from cm7 to gingervillian?
hey guys,
i just bought a desire, moving from a htc hero. i am a bit confused with all the different roms available, so i would be very gratefull if someone could recommend a rom for me. i am looking for a rom with the following features:
1. as stable as the stock rom
2. has all the funcionallity of the stock roms (i noticed that for the hero some roms had problems with the camera for example, yet the camera is important to me, the same goes for gps)
3. is fast
4. has long battery life
5. sense is optional, i quite liked sense, especially the camera app and the dialer, yet i can live without it if i can find good replacements for the mentioned apps
6. gingerbread is optional - i am not quite sure how important the gingerbread improvements are and whether they come at the cost of speed and stability
thanks a lot in advance
imo the best rom was InsertCoin 1.0.5 with sense 2.1 and 3.0 parts..the new 1.0.8 with more stuff of 1.0.3 is beautiful but slowly respect the older 1.0.5
RcMixS v2.0 if you want GB with Sense 2.1 + 3.0.
Oxygen 2.1.4 / CM7 if you want pure (much faster than Sense) AOSP GB ROM.
MIUI if you want something completly different (iPhone like) with great battery life.
Also wrong forum section, this should go to Q&A...
HTC Desire --- Desire Android Development... does this look like a QnA section?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
I hate to say this but given your criteria stick to stock, and don't bother reading this section, or making irrelevant posts in the DEV section
I can recomend GingerVillain (with dialer one as alternative to sene's dialer) or MIUI-XJ, both are without sense and super fast. Also have good batery life (ofc it depends on how u use your phone).
Fully customized GingerVillain - Super fast and lot of options.
Thanks
Thanks guys for your answers, as for the fact that i have posted in the wrong section, i have asked the thread to be moved to q&a. Peace
hmongo said:
Thanks guys for your answers, as for the fact that i have posted in the wrong section, i have asked the thread to be moved to q&a. Peace
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I highly recommend the InsertCoin series.
I'm currently using the InsertCoin Nightly ROM, although I am on V45 (latest is V50) as I feel it offers me the best experience and reliability.
Give it a try, you will not be disappointed.
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I hate to say this but given your criteria stick to stock, and don't bother reading this section, or making irrelevant posts in the DEV section
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So what would be the problem with the non-stock roms?
Non apart from aosp not having sense, and some being a bit unstable, but most is very decent.
You need to decide if you want:
1. sense
2. aosp
3. miui
Try them out(just make a nandroid) and go between them till you find one you are comfortable with. Then choose a rom from either of the categories:
For sense roms, they are quite similar(all gb and sense 2.1+3.0 stuff). For aosp i personally prefer the clean oxygen, but some might consider the more configurable cm. For miui there are pretty much just the one choice
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Non apart from aosp not having sense, and some being a bit unstable, but most is very decent.
You need to decide if you want:
1. sense
2. aosp
3. miui
Try them out(just make a nandroid) and go between them till you find one you are comfortable with. Then choose a rom from either of the categories:
For sense roms, they are quite similar(all gb and sense 2.1+3.0 stuff). For aosp i personally prefer the clean oxygen, but some might consider the more configurable cm. For miui there are pretty much just the one choice
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And if it is sense that your after, I would highly recommend the Insertcoin Sense 2.1+3.0 (3D) combination rom.. it feels advanced, very stable, everything works, the 3D animations are sensational (no pun intended Lol).
BTW, you might want to sort out your medical expenses as you'll soon become addicted to flashing like the rest of us!
If you are looking for stable and fast sense rom with good battery life then nothing can bit
RCMix S v2.0 Evolutionary Sense(2.1+3.0) by robocik imo.
i also tried leedroid,InsertCoin,CrystalKingdom,Cool Kingdom roms but not satisfied with performance,those who hasn't try it yet give it a shot,best sense rom i am using so far
Insertcoin Nightly is very nice, fast and reliable , and even if there's a problem it's fixed very fast as Baadnwz releases updates every 1-2 days
Has got to be MIUI-XJ for me . I tried , and liked RC Mix v2.0 but once i switched to miui -xj i found what i had been looking for.
Well basically its between sense and aosp. I dont need sense for its flashiness, advantages would be the camera and dialer apps.
On the hero I was using cyanogenmod, I was quite happy with it, with the only drawbacks that the cammera was more sluggish than on the stock-sense-rom and that the gps would crash the phone now and then.
So if there is an aosp rom that has the camera working well, I would go for that and if there was a sense-rom thats not super heavy on the cpu and the battery, that would be cool too...
Hi.
Absolutely satisfied with [ROM][Sense 2.1+3.0mix][02 June]RCMix S v2.0 Evolutionary Sense.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=988570&highlight=update
Ive tried almost every ROM, but this suites for me. Quick, not battery draining, everything I need and never had any any problem with it.
The developer deserve a 1st price. At least from me.
Ayax
LeeDroid 3.0.8.2 for me
I've used LeeDroid since before version 2.
No problems with the Froyo builds he's done - all features I need work correctly, including video capture, PPTP VPN, and no force close errors!
I'm currently trialling his GB stuff - version 3.0.8.2 is still a little buggy for me.
Search one from my sig, it's stable, fast and has good battery life
hope it helps
i know this will be something that you are probably already seek of reading but i really would like some answers.
I have a new desire z , i already did the tutorial to root and s-off the phone, now i would like to know what roms do you guys recommend me to install.
please give options for roms with and without sense.
thanks!
1) Whatever looks good to you
2) Whatever meets your performance/feature requirements.
Unless you specify what you are looking for in a ROM, its hard to narrow down. There are tons of these threads and the common answer is "try some".
Not trying to be a jerk, but it really comes down to what you want/like.
ok
is there any fully functional ics rom for the desire z?
and what is the best rom to use if i want a fast rom with htc sense?
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magno23 said:
ok
is there any fully functional ics rom for the desire z?
and what is the best rom to use if i want a fast rom with htc sense?
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Best ICS ROM i have used till now - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492461 . Though this is also not fully functional.
I don't feel sense ROMs are fast enough :-/ But as biohazard said, it all depends on individual.
I've tried the ICS roms and I'm just not satisfied with them as a dailey driver yet. They'll get there, my biggest thing is the glitchy cameras. I'm excited for the time when ICS roms are 100% working.
I've tried just about all the roms out there, except sense 4.0. I keep finding myself going between CM7 and Virtuous Glite. I like the performance and customization of ILWT and I like the long battery of Glite.
I like that ILWT seems to be the only CM based rom that has a GPS fix.
I really like sense, but they're too laggy for me so far. Maybe, I just haven't found the right one?
The question of "what is the best/favorite ROM" gets asked a couple times a week. Just browse through this forum and you will find plenty of threads with opinions on ROMs.
As already mentioned, everyone has different needs and tastes. What is one person likes, may not be the best for you. Just do some reading, and you will find the benefits and features of the various ROMs, then pick one from there.
Just flashed this mod : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1495255
I love it, but having an issue with the wifi with 2.0.
Good luck!
magno23 said:
i know this will be something that you are probably already seek of reading but i really would like some answers.
I have a new desire z , i already did the tutorial to root and s-off the phone, now i would like to know what roms do you guys recommend me to install.
please give options for roms with and without sense.
thanks!
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Take a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916431 it has a list of very good ROMs.
i tried some roms with htc sense but they are a little slow for me.
what is the difference between CM7 and ILWT CM7?
magno23 said:
i tried some roms with htc sense but they are a little slow for me.
what is the difference between CM7 and ILWT CM7?
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Well, basically, ILWT is CM7 on steroids. Many optimizations for battery life/performance.
Hi everybody. I would like to know which one of all of these roms at this forum is best for DZ ? Is here someone who tried almost all ? And can tell me which one is the really best ?
I have tried just about everyone made for the dz dating back to froyo, and my advise... Flash a few and find out. That may not be the answer you want to heat but best for me is almost surly not best for you which is surly not best for the next guy
This phone has had tons of development over the years and few phones will rival the amount of ROMs available
For a list see here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2348266
That has most but not all options
Best of luck!
I think there is a few roms you can start with:
Andromadus Mimicry - Amazingly tweakable AOSP based ICS rom. Very stable and fast, but for obvious reason it have no "Sense" features at all.
Sensei - Fastest and most stable Sense 4.1 rom i seen on DZ. There is no tweaks or something, but most features from Sense 4.1 are here.
Jelly Mod - CM-based rom with a bunch of tweaks. Based on Jelly Bean 4.3.1. Fast, stable, runs very good. But it have some problems with sound - it sounds "overcompressed" when you are listening music with phones at levels higher than "safe". That's the reason why i don't use it.
All the links you can find in a "Guide To The HTC Vision" topic (demkantor posted link to it already)
Personally I prefer Sabsa Bliss rom, but i have made a lot of work with replacing system resources and tweaking, so i can't advise it as one of the best out-of-the-box fully featured roms.