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Basically, I have a HTC Desire ... no fancy stuff attached .. BUT i want gingerbread on it ... badly (for the close effect .. its too good). Is rooting safe? and how do I undo any mistakes? Also, how do I get gingerbread on my phone, and does everything else get wiped out?
Many Thanks,
kanay2000 said:
Basically, I have a HTC Desire ... no fancy stuff attached .. BUT i want gingerbread on it ... badly (for the close effect .. its too good). Is rooting safe? and how do I undo any mistakes? Also, how do I get gingerbread on my phone, and does everything else get wiped out?
Many Thanks,
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Rooting as with most stuff carries risks, however google and download unrevoked which will root and turn of the security of the bootloader, (version 3.21 works if the newer version fails)
To undo root if somethings wrong flash an RUU, you will need to create a goldcard (tutorial on here, use goldcard helper on market. RUUs are available in the dev section)
When you flash the gingerbread rom via recovery (which is installed by unrevoked) it will wipe the phone, mem card and sim dont get touched
Hope this helps
Vengeance
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vengeance1990 said:
Rooting as with most stuff carries risks, however google and download unrevoked which will root and turn of the security of the bootloader, (version 3.21 works if the newer version fails)
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Only for CDMA devices. GSM has to S-Off.
Will 3.21 work with 2.2 on USCC?
Try it. It should work since it can so CDMA devices. If it doesn't work, the program will tell you that it cannot continue.
hey guys.
did anybody know here how to make 2.3.3 ota update root, i have tried gingerbreak that doesnt working showing just black screen.
my phn is s-on, I do it coz it wont accepting OTA update.
is there any manual process to make it root via adb shell or something like that.?
i dont want to install custom roms i already checked so much of them but the are not fully bugs free and not fully google compatible as i want..
It is not possible. True, not all the ROMs work great, but some do. Try Android Revolution HD 5.1.6.
You have to downgrade first to get root, and then S-OFF if you want to flash custom ROMs.
You can also downgrade, root, get Radio S-OFF, unroot, get OTA again and use GingerBreak. Then you can have root in the latest HTC Gingerbread ROM.
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It is not possible. True, not all the ROMs work great, but some do. Try Android Revolution HD 5.1.6.
You have to downgrade first to get root, and then S-OFF if you want to flash custom ROMs.
You can also downgrade, root, get Radio S-OFF, unroot, get OTA again and use GingerBreak. Then you can have root in the latest HTC Gingerbread ROM.
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OTA didn't came when radio is S-ON. thats y i did this..
Your phone is always S-ON when it is stock, so surely OTA will work then. And even when it is S-OFF, it does not matter if your /system partition is in stock condition (no root, no bloatware removed).
HTC have stopped Gingerbread OTA because of to many bug (To many have reported problem with SMS, WiFi a.l.). It will be released new version within few weeks when those thing is fixed. Ref HTC support
Thanks jkolko for the useful s-off & eng-off guides. Should anyone else find it an issue, note that if recovery cannot mount your sdcard, you should try another sdcard (found this elsewhere in the forums).
Hi, any app for downgrading? Honestly, not à "hero" when it comes to touching my phone, but would like root (at least to get rid of some stock apps).
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To have root in 2.3 you need to use the downgrade guide to 1.32. Root and S-OFF and update to Gingerbread using 2.3 RUU. Then use Gingerbreak .apk to root. Now you have rooted S-OFFed Gingerbread 2.3
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Updated to 2.3 from fully rooted 1.32 by RUU, installed AMT and now have su and full root Gingerbread AMT relay works, thanks to developer of script...
Hello Frendz,
The day before yesterday HTC sent an upgrade to the factory default OS (i.e. 2.2 froyo) on my DHD and I happily upgraded to 2.3 Gingerbread. Now, before updating I had permanent root access on my desire through Visionary but just after the update I realised I do not have root anymore. I would appreciate any comments and other experiences in this matter.
Also, during my own research I came across Gingerbreak which is probably the best around for rooting the 2.3 version but all I wanna ask is, if I still need to downgrade to gain root access or is it possible to directly use ginger break somehow? If I am not flashing another Rom, and all I want is Superuser rights.
As, I have never flashed any other find on to my DHD and I was using the stock interface since the start obviously with visionary root.
Also, whichever way I do it, I would loose all my contacts apps or we can avoid that. Can anybody please suggest any good (possibly free) backup app.
Tooo Long to read but any help and replies will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Anyone have any idea when Visionary or another One Click will work on a stock DHD running 2.3.3? I only want to root to get Set Cpu to improve my battery life.
You can trust my word.. Never.
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You can trust my word.. Never.
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Wow, that's a bold statement in tech lol
Any reason why this build will never be hacked when seemingly every other one is?
Not doubting yr word at all tho lol
Because it uses (as far as we know) pretty much flawless security measures that prevent us from doing much anything. Previously the devs found a way to go around the main security barrier after two months of trying, and now HTC blocked that security hole. As downgrading is possible, there are really not much interests to try and crack the new builds. Especially as it seems like a mission impossible.
....sigh.....
and since downgrading, gold cards etc etc is not my favorite, still waiting for a simple apk "for dummies", I guess I can forget to get to root mine.....
Those guides are really not so hard. Read them a couple of times, and if you still do not get it, ask your friend to do it. You can also join #AndroidRevolution IRC channel, somebody can hold your hand through the process. If I am logged in, make sure to send me a private message in IRC so I notice you.
thanks for the offer! will read again & probaply come back t you for help
Indian Desire HD
Apparently the Indian DHDs running 2.3.3 cannot be downgraded to root.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
You can install seraphic custom Rom if you like its just a stock Rom with stock kernel and root access. I love that Rom, closest to stock you can get on rooted DHDs IMO.
yes, it really sad that to say 2.37 OTA upgrade cannot be downgrade this time, I really want to downgrade or just root it :'(
nothing can do this time
hello
i am new in rooting stuff.
i want to use visionary+ to temp root my device
it worked fine.
Now i want to use ROM manager to backup my current rom without being permanent root. I want to do it using temp root.
Is that possible?
I already tried and it didn't worked..
thank you in advanced for any help!
emm_stra said:
hello
i am new in rooting stuff.
i want to use visionary+ to temp root my device
it worked fine.
Now i want to use ROM manager to backup my current rom without being permanent root. I want to do it using temp root.
Is that possible?
I already tried and it didn't worked..
thank you in advanced for any help!
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No answer yet? Where are root experts?
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Why temp root? It's really easy permrooting it...
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dexter93 said:
Why temp root? It's really easy permrooting it...
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thank you for the answer
if i pemanent root my device before i take a initial backup of my current factory rom i would not be able to restore it whenever i want to give my phone for service.
I will have to download one from a site. But i want to use again my own one.
You could just grab one of the ruus that are on shipped-roms.com that contains your current rom. It's a pity to have such a good device and not root it... You lose functionality.... Also you can't flash custom roms.... Our devs are by far better than htc's
Think that people even s-off and send their phone in for service (after returning it to perfect factory condition via ruu).
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dexter93 said:
You could just grab one of the ruus that are on shipped-roms.com that contains your current rom. It's a pity to have such a good device and not root it... You lose functionality.... Also you can't flash custom roms.... Our devs are by far better than htc's
Think that people even s-off and send their phone in for service (after returning it to perfect factory condition via ruu).
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I am confused
What is ruu?
And s-off?
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RUU stands for ROM update utility. It's an upgrade pack from htc. It contains ROM, radio, bootloader and recovery(in other words all the software bits required for your phone to run) to "update" your phone. These are all factory ones that are released from htc to help users upgrade their phones to the latest official software. Their components are found also on the OTA updates. We use them after when we want to return the phone to factory default state after we have flashed custom versions of any of the above, in order to return for service. S-on/off indicates a security status set by HTC. S-on is the standard for retail phones and it means that the /system and /data are not writable when the phone is operating. In that case we use tools like adb to do so , through pc. S-off disables this security measure allowing further customization of the device. It is also said that root+s-off = ultimate root, because then the phone is fully accessible and customizable
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dexter93 said:
You could just grab one of the ruus that are on shipped-roms.com that contains your current rom. It's a pity to have such a good device and not root it... You lose functionality.... Also you can't flash custom roms.... Our devs are by far better than htc's
Think that people even s-off and send their phone in for service (after returning it to perfect factory condition via ruu).
Sent from my HTC Desire
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hello again
thank you for the answer
should i trust the ruu from this site shipped-roms.com? do we know that is the factory one?
and which one is for my hct desire? in this site there are more than one ruu for my device. how do i know which one is for my device?
And a final question
What will be the profit of making my device root? would i be able to have more software?
thank you in advanced for any help
The ruus on shipped-roms are the factory ones and are tested. There are many roms, because there are many updates, and because some of them are branded, which means that they are specifically designed for a specific carrier. Usually what you need is the latest WWE RUU. When rooted you can use some extra apps, and flash custom roms(and recoveries/radios too)
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dexter93 said:
The ruus on shipped-roms are the factory ones and are tested. There are many roms, because there are many updates, and because some of them are branded, which means that they are specifically designed for a specific carrier. Usually what you need is the latest WWE RUU. When rooted you can use some extra apps, and flash custom roms(and recoveries/radios too)
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thank you again for the help
if i root my phone what is the normal process that i should take? the steps or the guide i mean.
after my phone is rooted, what other ruu should i install to my phone?
i would like to test sense 3.0 and the new version of android.
is that possible??
and of cousre to be able to have many software in my card...
emm_stra said:
thank you again for the help
if i root my phone what is the normal process that i should take? the steps or the guide i mean.
after my phone is rooted, what other ruu should i install to my phone?
i would like to test sense 3.0 and the new version of android.
is that possible??
and of cousre to be able to have many software in my card...
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There are full tutorials in the desire development sub forum. The latest ruu is the one that came to you over the air and its froyo with standard sense. You don't need to install any ruu, as long as you don't want to send it in for service. If you want to try sense 3(its still im beta phase) you can try one of the custom roms found in the desire index thread(in the development subforum). You must first become familiar with these terms: adb, fastboot, ext, a2sd, a2sd+,data2sd/ext/whatever, hboot, root, s-off, alpharev, partition,recovery,wipe, backup,flash,dalvik cache,RUU, usb brick, rosie,apk, updater-script, update.zip, radio, ril,amend, edify, data++, amonRA, clockworkmod, AOSP, MIUI and others, but there are enough to bring you in the world of Android on Desire. Be patient and search for each and every one of these.... Everything has been explained on the forums and the tuts in great detail. Dont be afraid to use Google search, or the xda one
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...hope this isnt a pointless thread, but I felt these are a valid set of questions... might be wrong though... >_<
In any case, I've just been informed that the HTC now officially unlocks the DHD bootloader through their website.
Now, my questions...
Does anyone know the difference between the Official HTC bootloader unlock procedure versus the Radio and ENG-HBOOT procedure posted by jkoljo?
Also, note that the HTC way looks like its just one procedure... whilst jkoljo's are distinctly two (one for Radio and one for HBOOT)... if the HTC procedure is initially used, would you still need to do either of jkoljo's? ie the Radio S-Off one... assuming the HTC way gives you only Eng-HBOOT S-OFF?
Hell, do you still need to downgrade with the HTC bootloader unlock?
Lastly, I've already used jkoljo's procedure and now fully Radio & HBOOT S-Off'ed... is there any point of doing the HTC unlock bootloader procedure? Would it actually give me a negative result if I actually go through the HTC procedure now with the current state of my phone?
Anyways, thanks for reading through my musings... and here's hoping someone with the knowhow answers well... ^_^
/Peace
I would like to no this to, but do we really need to worry now we are rooted ?
Yes me 2. What are the pros and cons of them?
...from reading the FAQ on the HTCdev about it.
...according to its FAQ
It seems you're still S-ON after their procedure. This is to apparently secure the radio as well as the SIM-Lock...
So me thinks we might still need jkoljo's ENG-S-OFF procedure afterwards...
...Although, with HTC leaving that lock... I'm a bit dubious about advocating their procedure now as opposed to jkoljo's as well as the Advanced Ace Hack kit. The latter of which is actually the most effective imho, though it still needs jkoljo's ENG-S-OFF procedure...
Do not try to unlock the bootloader of your phone.
it's not locked.
If someone can clarify this: for me the DHD bootloader has never been locked!?!
I was planing to go for sensation when HTC launched it but kept my DHD as sensation was locked and it was not possible to put custom ROM.
From my first HTC, the first thing I always do was removing Sense... (HD, HD2 then DHD). As far as I know Sensation was the first with locked bootloader.
if someone can explain... i'll be more than happy
truc007 said:
Do not try to unlock the bootloader of your phone.
it's not locked.
If someone can clarify this: for me the DHD bootloader has never been locked!?!
I was planing to go for sensation when HTC launched it but kept my DHD as sensation was locked and it was not possible to put custom ROM.
From my first HTC, the first thing I always do was removing Sense... (HD, HD2 then DHD). As far as I know Sensation was the first with locked bootloader.
if someone can explain... i'll be more than happy
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Root is different from unlocking bootloader eg the Motorola Milestone has root but the bootloader is still locked. This still allows you to load partially customized ROMs but prevents loading custom kernels for one thing.
My question though would be:
What exactly is the point in HTC's bootloader unlocker? Say you go from a stock phone, upgraded froyo to GB all the way. You dont have s-off or eng-off or anything, what would the benefit be to now unlock the bootloader "officially"?
Does it supply a recovery with nandroid backup or allow GB to be rooted or anything like that?
The benefit would be that you lose your warranty because HTC saves your serial, which wouldn't happen if you do it yourself.
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Exactly...and thanks to AAHK it's not really difficult to get Root, S-Off and CWM on our phones
DN41
Wonder why HTC went through "all the trouble" to do a bootloader unlocker for Desire HD now anyway? its like p#ssing on the ashes AFTER the house burnt down, surely they know there's a dozen ways to get there that are far less involved than their convoluted scheme. *shrugs*
I did this just because there's no major action on ICS and no action on rcmix runny, so i needed to do something to my phone.
Its a real convoluted process.
you need to restore to stock and update to the latest ruu before you can then install the new hboot to then unlock.
The only difference is now i have locked, then unlocked at the top of the bootloader screen.
still needed to re root the stock rom to install 4ext to nandroid the stock and restore ICS.
Really not worth the effort trying ifyou already have a custom recovery and s-off.
Unless you want the latest possible date to show off...
But if you unlocked the bootloader, what is the best way to get root access?
I want to use eg Titanium backup
Pibroens said:
But if you unlocked the bootloader, what is the best way to get root access?
I want to use eg Titanium backup
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Check the stickies in the dev forum like this one.
If you have S-OFF, obviously you can skip to the next steps, which is to root.
Make sure you read, read, read so you don't miss anything important.
hey i just got a droid incredible from my sister (not going to use it as a phone) and i would like to root it and flash a custom ROM, im sorta know about rooting and flashing but i keep looking for ways to root this phone and its way difficult for me. i am not about to use adb or android sdk for some reason they never work with methods for my other phones. not sure how to get to recovery just goes to a hboot screen which i see is normal. a lot of the links are broken on methods to root i see that unrevoked dosent work with 2.3.4. and im really frustrated with this phone. it has 2.3.4. S-ON and hboot 1.0.7 i don't know how to do the radio stuff please help.
Trozzul said:
hey i just got a droid incredible from my sister (not going to use it as a phone) and i would like to root it and flash a custom ROM, im sorta know about rooting and flashing but i keep looking for ways to root this phone and its way difficult for me. i am not about to use adb or android sdk for some reason they never work with methods for my other phones. not sure how to get to recovery just goes to a hboot screen which i see is normal. a lot of the links are broken on methods to root i see that unrevoked dosent work with 2.3.4. and im really frustrated with this phone. it has 2.3.4. S-ON and hboot 1.0.7 i don't know how to do the radio stuff please help.
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The only way to root 2.3.4 is to unlock your bootloader using htcdev unlock, then use fastboot (an android sdk program) to flash a custom recovery. Once you have the recovery installed, you can flash a rom of your choosing. There are no one click options available since the inc got gingerbread. It requires a bunch of steps, but isnt all that hard. Here is a working guide if you decide to take the plunge. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506258. Note that you do not need s-off to flash a rom, but you do need s-off to flash radios, hboots, and splash screens.
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