[Q] Safe to disable Google stock apps? - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

I don't use a lot of the apps that came preinstalled and am just curious of disabling them will "break" anything or have a negative impact on performance or battery for any reason. These are the apps I don't use/would like to disable:
Books
Email
Google+
Latitude
Messenger
Places
Videos
Talk
Just don't need em. All Verizon apps were disabled with no problems.
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Why wouldn't it be? I keep Google Talk disabled because it was a huge source of battery drain for me in the past.

Just not sure about some of them like Google+, not sure how deep integration is. Also videos, not sure if that's tied to the market somehow
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I disabled messenger (not the Google+ thing, the built-in sms app) without any ill effects. I read on here somewhere that your gallery will FC if you disable Google+.

I don't just disable them, I use root explorer to delete them for good. Deleted Google+ with no ill effects, and a ton of other stuff I will never use.
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You'll just have to test them one by one. From my experience, disabling google+ can cause the gallery to crash.

WalkingTaco said:
I don't use a lot of the apps that came preinstalled and am just curious of disabling them will "break" anything or have a negative impact on performance or battery for any reason. These are the apps I don't use/would like to disable:
Books
Email
Google+
Latitude
Messenger
Places
Videos
Talk
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Books, Talk and Email are surely fine.
Latitude and Places may mess with Maps but they're probably fine.
Google+ (and therefore Messenger), along with Videos may mess with Gallery.
Just take a few hours and disable them 1 by 1 and see if anything happens.

I removed google+ with no adverse affects on the gallery.

Ended up just removing the whole lot. No problems thus far. Places is tied to maps though so unfortunately that will stay. Does anyone else's maps just start running randomly in your recent tasks. GPS and location are both disabled.
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I disabled many: clock, calculator, doc viewer, earth, news & weather, and voice dialer ... as I use alternative apps. Never tried disabling critical ones (e.g., G+). Every thing seems OK.
I faced a problem upon updating system from 4.0.1 to 4.0.2. BUT I'm not sure of the error in updating if it came from disabling stock apps or something else.
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WalkingTaco said:
Does anyone else's maps just start running randomly in your recent tasks.
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This, I've seen a few times.

WalkingTaco said:
Does anyone else's maps just start running randomly in your recent tasks. GPS and location are both disabled.
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Yeah, I've stopped caring about it. I burn more battery trying to track it down then just letting it run (at that, I don't think its actually using any measurable amount of battery). Its obviously doing something worth-while if it keeps poppin up.

You guys mind if I use some of the info in this thread for the GN apk doc I started on?
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Everything on the list minus places and latitude have been disabled for a couple days now with no issues whatsoever. Books enables itself with each reboot but I stopped caring and just left it up. Doesn't ever seem to run and I'm thinking it might be tied to the market in some weird way.
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Ves said:
You guys mind if I use some of the info in this thread for the GN apk doc I started on
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Use away my friend
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G+ and Gallery sync photos so just check settings for that in accounts and in app.
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[Q] Disabled Apps Reenabling Themselves After Reboot

Hi everybody - Searched all over, haven't seen any info on this issue. I apologize if I missed something
Recently, some apps I disabled on my Verizon Galaxy Nexus have begun to automatically reenable themselves after every reboot. The specific apps are Google Books, Google Earth, and Videos.
This did not used to happen. Further, my other disabled apps (the VZ apps, News and Weather, Movie Studio, etc.) stay disabled just like they are supposed to.
I'm not sure exactly when it started happening, so I can't pinpoint any changes or apps that might have caused the issue. If it matters, I'm not rooted.
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated - the ability to disable unused apps was one of the reasons I got the phone. Thank you!
Update
Quick update. After I found my device would not complete a factory reset successfully, I contacted Verizon for a replacement. The replacement device factory resets successfully, unlike my first.
However, after setting up the new device I found that it too has the exact same problem with disabled apps. Google Books, Google Earth, and Videos (but no other disabled apps) all reenable themselves after every reboot. I noticed this before installing any apps or tweaking any settings. It seems there is a problem with these particular apps or in the way the are treated by ICS.
Either way, it's a shame that this major advertising point for the device does not function as advertised.
Interesting. I was wondering why I was seeing updates available for Earth and Video in the Market, seeing as how I had disabled them...
fyi I suspect it's a Verizon thing - I have both disabled and they're staying that way.
Thanks Clancy_s for the info. That's an interesting possibility.
It's also interesting to me that I haven't been able to find much chatter about this. I've posted the issue here, on the Google Mobile help forum, and on the Android Project Issues list (after searching each for previous mentions), and haven't heard much back.
I'm wondering how sporadic the issue might be, or if it might be connected to certain types of accounts since I've seen it on two phones now. I realize it's not a critical issue, but I've certainly seen a lot more concern on Android forums for less.
Just received my 3rd device (original plus 2 replacements, first 2 sent back due to other problems besides this one). The same problem with disabled apps reenabling themselves after a reboot persists. And this is after a factory reset, without adding any apps, changing any settings, without being backed up to my google account, without location services on. Same apps - Google Books, Google Earth, Videos. No other apps affected.
I'm having this problem as well. I disabled Google+, but it becomes enabled again after a reboot. VZ Backup Assistant and Google Talk stay disabled as they should.
Google earth did this for me also, so I just deleted the app. Of course you need root to do it.
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Same problem with Maps
Title says it all. Really annoying.
Sigh... you're not alone. I disabled the Google search bar and after awhile the phone will automatically reenable anything that was disabled.
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2gb data in 1 day? Please help

I rarely use more than 4gb in a month, and my data resets on the 4th.
I deleted alot of apps on the 4th but I dont remember what all I deleted. I checked my data usage today and was shocked at what I saw. Using MyATT it shows usage being close to the same.
My question is there anyway to figure out what app or apps used nearly 2gb of data in 1 day?
I didnt download any large files or tether or anything. Just xda browsing and surfing the net. Ive attached last months data usage to give you an idea of how I use data. As well as a screenshot of the MyATT app and my data usage for this month so far.
Thanks for any help or ideas
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If you scroll down in Data Usage, it should tell you the amount of data your apps are using. If you tap on each app, it will show you how much of the data it uses is being used in the foreground or background.
If you look in the pic, it says removed apps used 1.85gb
Im trying to figure out if I can see what apps used so much data
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Removed Apps is all the apps you uninstalled. It compiled it as one and added up all the total data usage of the uninstalled apps prior to being installed.
You can go to Google Play's website and look under "Other apps in my library" to see all the apps you have on your account, even if you uninstalled them from your phone.
Of course, it won't tell you which app used how much data since it's no longer on your phone, but knowing which apps you had uninstalled should give you an idea how much data they would use. For example, if you had uninstalled a torrent app, it would certainly be the culprit. Apps that also constantly sync with a server, such as weather apps/widgets and streaming video/music apps, would also be likely culprits. It's also possible most, if not all, of the apps you uninstalled combined would have been the culprit since they may have automatically updated or synced to a server in the background a few times.
Unfortunately, it doesn't keep that kind of detail for uninstalled apps. But looking at "Other apps in my library" in Google Play's website would at least give you a general idea.
Thanks everyone for the help. Im thinking it was the free talking caller id app. That is the only app that ive had other problems with.
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Did you delete the cache of the Samsung Gallery app? I noticed 438mb data usage the first day I got the phone from the gallery app syncing all my Facebook and picasa albums. My coworker had the same thing.
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BlackPhantomX said:
Removed Apps is all the apps you uninstalled. It compiled it as one and added up all the total data usage of the uninstalled apps prior to being installed.
You can go to Google Play's website and look under "Other apps in my library" to see all the apps you have on your account, even if you uninstalled them from your phone.
Of course, it won't tell you which app used how much data since it's no longer on your phone, but knowing which apps you had uninstalled should give you an idea how much data they would use. For example, if you had uninstalled a torrent app, it would certainly be the culprit. Apps that also constantly sync with a server, such as weather apps/widgets and streaming video/music apps, would also be likely culprits. It's also possible most, if not all, of the apps you uninstalled combined would have been the culprit since they may have automatically updated or synced to a server in the background a few times.
Unfortunately, it doesn't keep that kind of detail for uninstalled apps. But looking at "Other apps in my library" in Google Play's website would at least give you a general idea.
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Just the answer i was looking for. THANK YOU. I was going to post why i have over 1/2 a GB on removed apps.
For future reference, there is an app called "my data manager" that will monitor all this for you and break it down into easy to read charts to show you where your data goes each month. It will also show projected use and daily allocations to keep it within your cap.
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dropofdreams2 said:
For future reference, there is an app called "my data manager" that will monitor all this for you and break it down into easy to read charts to show you where your data goes each month. It will also show projected use and daily allocations to keep it within your cap.
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+1 on this. Have it running on every mobile on my plan (5). Great way to track usage.
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Im having the same issue with att it seems the data counter doesnt reset properly.
My bill resets on the 17th but on the 18 of this month I had already used 5 gb according to dialing *3283#. But when I check on the att website through my lap top it shows the correct amount 400mb.
Might want to give it a try and see.
It's done that for the past 2 months.
I called ATT and they said since I dowloaded a large game the night before my data flipped to zero I shows on next months data usage which is BS.
I've had ATT since 2008 and I would always get zeroed out at the start of my bill no matter how much data I use the day before it's supposed to start at 0mb.

[Q] Is it okay to remove these Gapps items?

I'd like to remove these apk's (just because I'm a slim/neat freak).
Google Partner Setup (GooglePartnerSetup.apk).
Google Play Services (GmsCore.apk)
Google Key Chain (KeyChain.apk)
Market Feedback Agent (GoogleFeedback.apk)
Can I get of all (or some) of them? Or will it cause ROM/Google account problems?
Freeze them with titanium backup.
If market or anything acts up, just unfreeze
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Freeze them with titanium backup.
If market or anything acts up, just unfreeze
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I've done that. But it's hard to know what to blame on them, when something does happen.
I've seen the phone go a couple days without any issues when all were frozen. And I've also seen random "odd" issues that I can't blame on anything specifically.
But who knows what/how/when freeze issues may crop up, when you don't know specifically how these items interact with the phone and when/how they are used.
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I've done that. But it's hard to know what to blame on them, when something does happen.
I've seen the phone go a couple days without any issues when all were frozen. And I've also seen random "odd" issues that I can't blame on anything specifically.
But who knows what/how/when freeze issues may crop up, when you don't know specifically how these items interact with the phone and when/how they are used.
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I've personally froze keychain and had no bad effects for a long time.
Keep them frozen. Might be battery savers on the long run
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I usually remove all of them and I haven't encountered any issues thus far.
CZ Eddie said:
I'd like to remove these apk's (just because I'm a slim/neat freak).
Google Partner Setup (GooglePartnerSetup.apk).
Google Play Services (GmsCore.apk)
Google Key Chain (KeyChain.apk)
Market Feedback Agent (GoogleFeedback.apk)
Can I get of all (or some) of them? Or will it cause ROM/Google account problems?
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Don't touch GmsCore if you don't want to lose functionality. It interacts with the Play Store, Youtube and other apps. Others are perfect to freeze though.

Batter drain

Why is google services higger than display
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ktetreault14 said:
Why is google services higger than display
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This is the perfect kind of question for the Help Thread pinned at the top of this forum. See link in my signature for the direct route.
Anyway, Google Services has gotten a little out of hand with how much it thinks your phone is Google's for Google to use as Google sees fit. Perosnally I hate that and I cripple the GSF's ability to take too much control of my phone.
Full disclosure, I haven't done this on a GS4 yet, but the phone model shouldn't matter as the Google Services Framework isn't model specific. I've done this on an HTC Sensation, HTC Glacier, and a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 and I get a noticable improvement in battery life and reduced wakes / wakelocks.
This is a good old fashioned dirty fix, as it breaks some things. GTalk and GNow or whatever Google is calling those services this week (and maybe a few other things) will not work after doing this. They are casualties of the dirty fix. But if you're like me and never use GTalk or GNow this will help. Basically the only Google service I use is the Play Store. So I disable everything in the GSF that isn't needed to run teh Play Store. Gmail and Google Maps are unaffected by the changes I list below.
I use System Tuner Pro to disable some of the start up items in the Google Services Framework. Additionally I froze the GTalk and Gnow (Google Search) apps. And no, you can't just freeze those two apps without touching the GSF. The GSF will still create wakelocks when trying to activate them even if they are not there. So you have to modify the GSF as well.
These are the things that I disabled in the GSF using System Tuner Pro. Basically anything that starts with GTalk or Talk in the GSF can be disabled.
gtalkservice.diagnostits.gtalkdiagnostics
gtalkservice.connection autherrordialog
talk.talkprovider
gtalkservice.diagnostics.gtalkdiagnosticsbroadcast reciever
gtalkservice.serviceautostarter
gtalkservices.datamessagereciever
gtalkservice.sendxmppreciever
gtalkservices.packageinstalledreciever
gtalkservice.xmppendpointreciever
gtalkservice.service.stalkservice
gtalkservice.pushmessagingregistar
These are optional other services to stop, but these will just stop a few extra alarms and wake ups. Having these stopped may disable more Google Services.
checkin.checinservices$reciever
checkin.checkinservices$triggerreciever
checkin.eventlogservices$receiver
checkin.eventlogservice
You can freeze the GSF entirely with 1 easy step and that will also kill the wakelocks. But the Play Store becomes another casualty if you do that. Disabling the events above will stop the Google Services wakelocks dead in their tracks, and allow the Play Store to continue working. (Though I haven't tried purchasing a paid app yet)
Other minor quirks...when installing an app from the Play Store after making these changes you may not get the notifications in the status bar showing that it's downloading or installing. It still works, you just don't get the notifications.
Also, when you turn on wifi or mobile data, the signal bars don't turn colors. They stay gray because you aren't connecting to the google servers anymore. (They normaly change color to indicate that you are connected to the Google servers)
I highly recommend making a Nandroid backup before trying any of this. Once you do that, go nuts! Try to activate or disable more events and see what your results are. You can't hurt too much when messing with the GSF because it will just shut down google elements. Worst case, you can always just reactivate everything, reboot, and it'll all work like it did before you messed with it. Super worst case, you can just restore your backup and it'll return you to normal. There is absolutely nothing you can break permanently by trying this.
So if you use Talk or Google Now your battery's pretty much screwed?
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So if you use Talk or Google Now your battery's pretty much screwed?
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Those apps certainly don't make battery life better. That's for sure.
Google's goal with those apps is to create a good user experience. They are not considering battery life or sharing system resources. As a result the apps work great and look super pretty, but they come at the cost of battery life and priority resource access. If maxing out the cpu to make sure the phone is connected to the Google talk server is what it takes to make sure its ready to go whenever you take the phone out of your pocket, then that's what Google is going to do.
They care about the 98% of android users who wouldn't know how or even care to look at the battery stats who will tell all their iPhone using friends how smooth and fluid the GTalk is. They don't design the Google Services Framework for the 2% of people who will care about the overuse of system resources. And they really don't design it for the 0.5% of users who might be able to limit the reach of the GSF.
You can limit Google's use of your system through less invasive means as well, like turning off sync and what not. That will make a dramatic impact. But doing that combined with what I do to disable GTalk completely and totally eliminates wake locks caused by Google. I can keep my device on for a week and the battery stats will not show a single Alarm caused by Google or 1 second of wake lock. But I'm willing to trade off not using some of the Google servicesmto make that happen.
Sent from your phone. You should be careful where you leave that thing.
But it is the first time this has happened
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But it is the first time this has happened
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Then try a reboot. Sometimes you just get a bad battery cycle that is plagued by wake locks.
Sent from your phone. You should be careful where you leave that thing.

[Q] Facebook app - major battery drain

Has anyone experienced this before with the Facebook app? Something's throwing it for a loop! It only seemed to start with the latest app update. However, I am also using TeslaUnread with Nova Prime (I also use Pushbullet, but disabled the notification push for Facebook). Guess that's a place to start, disabling Tesla for Facebook and see where that takes me. The investigation continues, but I thought I'd post here to see if anyone else has seen this before with a similar config.
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Has anyone experienced this before with the Facebook app? Something's throwing it for a loop! It only seemed to start with the latest app update. However, I am also using TeslaUnread with Nova Prime (I also use Pushbullet, but disabled the notification push for Facebook). Guess that's a place to start, disabling Tesla for Facebook and see where that takes me. The investigation continues, but I thought I'd post here to see if anyone else has seen this before with a similar config.
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Use Greenify
Yep greenify
Thanks guys, will look into that.
Go into app settings in Facebook and disable sync and refresh time to never. That slows Facebook battery drain. Good luck
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Yes, saw that one day. It was surprising just how bad it was. I uninstalled Facebook, reset, and reinstalled later. It's been fine since, but the problem may recur (I don't know why it happened in the first place).
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I went ahead and set the app to never auto-refresh (looks like it doesn't affect the notifications, so that's good), since I don't need my news feed updating every hour when I can just do that when I go into the app. I've been just closing the app completely every time I'm done using it for the past few days, but I think I'll give it another go letting it run in the background, and see how it does. I did notice a couple other people mentioned bad Note 4 battery on the latest reviews in the Play Store.

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