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Why did they remove drive letter access and cripple the phone with this MTP crap?
It took me 30 seconds to copy my pictures from my Droid Incredible via drive letter, and now it's taking upwards of 20 minutes to copy them over to the Nexus.
This is completely absurd...
DeaconBoogie said:
Why did they remove drive letter access and cripple the phone with this MTP crap?
It took me 30 seconds to copy my pictures from my Droid Incredible via drive letter, and now it's taking upwards of 20 minutes to copy them over to the Nexus.
This is completely absurd...
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Copying a files to/from my Galaxy Nexus takes no time at all. Much faster file transfer than on my previous phone and USB drive. Have you tried removing the driver and installing the naked samsung drivers?
DeaconBoogie said:
Why did they remove drive letter access and cripple the phone with this MTP crap?
It took me 30 seconds to copy my pictures from my Droid Incredible via drive letter, and now it's taking upwards of 20 minutes to copy them over to the Nexus.
This is completely absurd...
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And yet I'm having the exact opposite experience; on both a desktop PC and MacBook Pro with Android File Transfer, the performance of the Galaxy Nexus' filesystem has been miles ahead of the 8GB Class 10 MicroSD card I had in my previous device.
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And yet I'm having the exact opposite experience; on both a desktop PC and MacBook Pro with Android File Transfer, the performance of the Galaxy Nexus' filesystem has been miles ahead of the 8GB Class 10 MicroSD card I had in my previous device.
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I can't get the android file transfer to work on my mac. I download the dmg file and drag to applications, but it stil doesn't read my device. Am I doing something wrong? Can you shd some light for me?
And here comes the flood of "im not happy" threads.
You should have known it was MTP before you purchased it. Not trying to start an e-flame but just sayin'.
My connection always messes up, all my music got deleted last night. I'm having trouble copying music over. I'm ditching the stock ROM asap, hopefully one of the custom ROMs has mass storage.
I have to agree, I've hated MTP since the WinXP days when I first hooked up a camera directly. Had tons of corrupted files during transfers so I switched to taking out the memory cards and accessing them with USB readers.
Even now with the nexus I have trouble with files not even showing up properly in explorer but are clearly there when I use a file manager on the phone itself.
I copied a 500mb film from my pc to my phone in no-time. Must be your pc that causes the problem.
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I'm not sure why everybody needs to install stuff. I plugged the phone into my MBP and it popped up the contents. Plugged it into my W7 gaming machine and it popped up the contents.
Transfer times were the same, or faster, as they are on my Galaxy S II and Rezound.
Then again, unless it's more than 3-5 files I just use WiFi File Explorer. Fantastic way to transfer files to/from. Definitely worth the $.99 for the full version (demo only allows downloading *from* phone, not uploading to).
It's a trade-off. This way we can use the entire storage space. Just one big partition where all your apps and app data go. No more "internal storage" vs "external storage."
Mtp is very slow and makes windows crash.
sblantipodi said:
Mtp is very slow and makes windows crash.
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Maybe on your PC.
Everything works fine here with MTP, even better than Mass Storage before...
I love whatever they did. On my Thunderbolt, it would take a long time to copy files, but with the GN, it's as fast as anything! Not to mention I don't have to screw with turning on the phone, turning on USB, doing my work, turning the phone on, turning off USB, etc.
It's always on, available, and awesome!
I find that I have a lot better luck with my windows 7 machine than I do with my Vista machine.
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I'm having better luck with the good 'ol console.
adb push has been outperforming MTP for me.
So does MTP mean there's nothing to "eject" and you just pull the plug out of the phone?
Not on my PC it doesn't.
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So does MTP mean there's nothing to "eject" and you just pull the plug out of the phone?
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Yes there's no "eject" at all, because the system isn't actually mounted like it is in USB mass storage. Meaning you can still interact with the files on your phone when you're transferring to/from the phone.
I just transferred a 5.00GB mkv file in 16 minutes. That's roughly 5.2MB/sec. *Shrug*.
I'd prefer USB Mass Storage...
Anyone else notice that the pc's volume goes down when the device is unplugged?
I have Pandora playing on Win7 and unplugging the phone causes the volume for Pandora to drop. This is noticeable in the Volume Mixer.
Has anyone else tried using the included USB-C to A adapter to mount a flash drive? The phone recognizes it fine, but seems to only be able to read FAT32 formatting. I have other Android devices that can read exFAT just fine via an OTG cable. One of the reasons I was ok with getting the Pixel XL which doesn't have a MicroSD slot is that I assumed I would be able to hook up a flash drive if I wanted to watch some larger video files. I often have video files that exceed the file size limit of FAT32, so that format is not really an option.
I didn't realize the USB-C to USB-A connector was USB OTG. Thanks.
I tried a thumb drive first formatted to FAT32. It worked fine and I could access the files on it. Then I reformatted the thumb drive to exFAT, copied some files over to it, and then tried it. Nope. I remembered that I bought a file explorer for my N5 (it wouldn't mount the thumb drive) to allow USB OTG without root. So searched through my apps and found it....... USB Media Explorer https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.homeysoft.nexususb.importer&hl=en It is a paid app. It advertises FAT/FAT32, NTFS or Ext2/3/4, but it did work with exFAT. The interface wasn't the most intuitive. I went to folders and saw the music there. It was easy to play the music on the thumb drive. It took a little bit to figure out how to copy a song to the Pixel memory (have to select the song and then a copy looking icon pops up). I haven't figured out how to copy a complete folder yet although it must be possible. There were a few other apps on the Play Store that looked similar. I only tried this one since I had previously purchased it.
mtucker said:
I didn't realize the USB-C to USB-A connector was USB OTG. Thanks.
I tried a thumb drive first formatted to FAT32. It worked fine and I could access the files on it. Then I reformatted the thumb drive to exFAT, copied some files over to it, and then tried it. Nope. I remembered that I bought a file explorer for my N5 (it wouldn't mount the thumb drive) to allow USB OTG without root. So searched through my apps and found it....... USB Media Explorer https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.homeysoft.nexususb.importer&hl=en It is a paid app. It advertises FAT/FAT32, NTFS or Ext2/3/4, but it did work with exFAT. The interface wasn't the most intuitive. I went to folders and saw the music there. It was easy to play the music on the thumb drive. It took a little bit to figure out how to copy a song to the Pixel memory (have to select the song and then a copy looking icon pops up). I haven't figured out how to copy a complete folder yet although it must be possible. There were a few other apps on the Play Store that looked similar. I only tried this one since I had previously purchased it.
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Thanks, that app did work to be able to view the files on exfat formatted USB drive. For some reason playback of a video file is really slow (buffers a LOT) if playing directly from the drive. A bit odd, since copying a file to the phones internal storage didn't take too long, about a minute for a 500 Mb file. Not anywhere near USB 3 "normal" speeds, but not terrible. I found one other app on the play store that was also able to read the USB drive, but had the same performance. I will test formatted as FAT32 later and see if there is a difference.
This non-supporting of exFAT clearly shows Google is tying to push us to store everything about us on the Google Drive so that they can monitor everything about us... Is your thumb drive usb3 compatible? If so and you're not getting the 'normal' speeds, that's another sign. We better watch out. They will eventually force us to use their proprietary app like iTunes to transfer files between Pixels and PCs.
Seriously, though, I need a way to quickly sync my photos and videos from my DLSR.
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Thanks, that app did work to be able to view the files on exfat formatted USB drive. For some reason playback of a video file is really slow (buffers a LOT) if playing directly from the drive. A bit odd, since copying a file to the phones internal storage didn't take too long, about a minute for a 500 Mb file. Not anywhere near USB 3 "normal" speeds, but not terrible. I found one other app on the play store that was also able to read the USB drive, but had the same performance. I will test formatted as FAT32 later and see if there is a difference.
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Actually a minute for a 500MB file IS a lot.
Which USB pen drive is it?
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Actually a minute for a 500MB file IS a lot.
Which USB pen drive is it?
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Agreed.
My tests showed a similar result with Kingston 64GB Data Traveler Micro Duo as well as Sandisk Ultra 64GB using FAT32, exFAT, and NTFS. For comparison, my Nexus 6P transferred the same file approximately twice as fast.
I was a little disappointed by the lack of native support for formats other than FAT32 and this issue makes the file-size workaround less than desirable. Otherwise, my pixel xl seems to perform as expected.
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Struggling with this as well, I foolishly bought the 32GB Pixel XL and constantly run out of space so for large file storage I bought a 64GB Sandisk usb drive (3.0, one of those tiny thumbnail sized dongles) and it works but the transfer speed is maxing out at 2mb/s! It takes around 30 minutes to transfer a 2GB file; I manage but it's pretty unacceptable for a 3.0 device (using the Google provided C to A) and it drains the battery like mad!
Any more thoughts on this? I'm struggling to find an answer (read: fix).
Thanks friends,
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Struggling with this as well, I foolishly bought the 32GB Pixel XL and constantly run out of space so for large file storage I bought a 64GB Sandisk usb drive (3.0, one of those tiny thumbnail sized dongles) and it works but the transfer speed is maxing out at 2mb/s! It takes around 30 minutes to transfer a 2GB file; I manage but it's pretty unacceptable for a 3.0 device (using the Google provided C to A) and it drains the battery like mad!
Any more thoughts on this? I'm struggling to find an answer (read: fix).
Thanks friends,
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I did some more testing now that Google has had a year of software updates. Unfortunately, even on 8.1 December update, it seems FAT32 is still the only supported format, and the speeds are just as slow. I could only get about 15 Mb/sec. Thats using a high end aftermarket USB-C -> A adapter, and a 128 GB Sandisk USB 3 memory stick. This same adapter and memory stick can transfer well above 150 Mb/sec on a PC.
exFAT is a proprietary file system created and owned by Microsoft. Google did not pay Microsoft for the use of it on Pixel phones.
So exFAT can technically work if you Install Solid Explorer (free trial then $2 lifetime fee InApp Purchase, in my opinion well worth it as it's Solid) and their Solid Explorer USB OTG Plugin. Full Read/Write access for Fat32 and exFAT, NTFS Read only support. I actually loaded up my 64 GB Sandisk Extreme Flash Drive (exFAT formatted from Windows 10 pc), and took it on a trip with me to Disney World, so I could load movies and unload pictures of the family. I do have a 128GB Pixel XL, however I have a huge music collection I prefer offline, and ironically a lot of DayDream VR Experiences (it is space-consuming for offline copies such as Discovery VR etc, so those add up a Lot, but it does make for best experience as it is very heavy bandwidth dependent over wifi).
The USB 3.0 in my opinion doesn't exist for OTG, or at least with this adapter, I do have another adapter I think I'll try in a moment. However what I want to say is this flash Reads up to 245 MB/s and Writes at up to 190 MB/s, I usually average 100 - 200 on my pc. On this flash drive, just copying a file to phone from flash drive over exFAT apparently is limited to 0.5 MB/s. In other words it's going to take nearly 2 hours to copy over a 2.5 Gb file. It can still copy over with screen off, but I was thought it was ridiculous how much battery would be consumed and kept thinking if issue was UFS storage or drivers. I am on Android 8.0 November, will update to 8.1 clean install this week when February 2018 comes out. This actually did cause an issue for me using the original usb c to a cable on my pc, where it doesn't work and I have to use a specific usb c to a (2.0 version), which is still much faster than this. That issue though is because I 'dirty flashed' 8.0 over 7.1.2 without wiping. Only bug so far from that.
Not sure if the app was updated to support it or if Android 8.1 now supports it natively, but I'm able to access a flash drive via my phone using the adapter and File Manager by "Flashlight + Clock".
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.alphainventor.filemanager
Cheers!
Are you sure? I just tried it and it told me it doesn't support exFAT
Hi could anyone give a clear answer about use of OTG with Google Pixel XL: I read all about Google not supporting the exFAT format (someone said because they wouldn't pay Microsoft to license the tech), and that Pixel users are stuck with super slow transfer speeds, and file limitation sizes of FAT32. Someone else mentioned somewhere about Host Mode, and I'm finding it way harder than seems logical to get some definitive answer: If I can't get fast OTG transfer speeds with the Pixel, then I have to pass on its high quality camera and go with an inferior phone that has microUSB.
Can someone help me out with this please? Thank you much.
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Has anyone else tried using the included USB-C to A adapter to mount a flash drive? The phone recognizes it fine, but seems to only be able to read FAT32 formatting. I have other Android devices that can read exFAT just fine via an OTG cable. One of the reasons I was ok with getting the Pixel XL which doesn't have a MicroSD slot is that I assumed I would be able to hook up a flash drive if I wanted to watch some larger video files. I often have video files that exceed the file size limit of FAT32, so that format is not really an option.
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Try JS USB OTG app. I use this to play big video files with MxPlayer in SW mode, without rooting and the app doesn't seem to stream video like other apps, you can go back or forward without any problems.
it always seems when there is any issue and someone ""tried"" an app and blah blah .. its always an app that needs to be PAID TO USE !!!! crack me up just makes me want to find the paid ""free"" version through a google search
I have been trying to transfer files to a network share from my device recently, but I have been getting unbearable speeds of 800kbps. I have been using Es File Explorer with a test file that I used to transfer to the Windows 10 machine and back. When I transfer to the machine, I get 800kbps, but when I transfer in reverse, I get 7.5 MB/s! Its is significant speed increase in reverse.
This may look like it is a problem with my network or computer, but I don't believe it is. I have been able to transfer at 60 MB/s to and from another wired computer. Iperf3 shows ~200mbps over wifi, and speedtest maxes out my 90/12 connection.
I have also tried some other file managers namely Solid Explorer that has given me ~3.5 MB/s to the Windows 10 machine. All other file explorers have given me the same 800kbps.
I also have a Nexus 6P that gives me the same issue as the Pixel. I have even factory flashed it from scratch and get the same results.
The real kicker with this is that I used to be able to transfer at a solid 12 MB/s a few months ago when I last tried.
Is anyone else having this problem? Can any of you try a test transfer to a desktop on the network?
Thanks!
Try doing it with the charger on..
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Hi guys, since we still don't have MTP full filesystem access on L-950, I suppose to use SFTP. Download from phone to PC working great, on the full WiFi throttle. But upload to phone storage with transfer rate more than 32 Kbps always fails (after couple of megabytes).
I tried all rates (via Far Manager) and looks like 32 Kbps is a highest possible stable rate. But upload of the huge files takes sooooooo looooong time (like in "good old nineties" with analog phone modem)
Does anyone know how to fix the upload speed?
I am having issues with copying files being slow on my 5T. A small transfer either on the device itself, or from my laptop (running Fedora 27) to the phone takes forever. In the case of the computer it can't properly judge the estimated time of completion. I tried repairing SD card after flashing, but had no effect.
The weird thing is copying the 1.8GB FreedomOS 2.0.2 ROM (which I'm running) from laptop to phone transferred at "normal speed", but in other instances, copying just a few megabytes of files either takes forever, or never finishes. I was copying 14MB of V4A profiles from one directory to another on the phone, and after 16 minutes it never finished. As a separate test, I copied some music from my OP3 backup on my laptop to the phone, and was getting 10MB/sec. That is still ridiculously slow for USB3 as my external HD does ~125MB/sec. I even tried booting to TWRP recovery and copying files that way, but speeds did not improve.
The phone itself absolutely flies and have not seen a single stutter or lag, so something else is weird, and only specifically with copying files. Maybe something weird w/ disk i/o writes? Never had this issue on my OP3 or OPO.
EDIT: Tried my old Dash cable, same results. Attaching screenshot of transfer speed.
Windows (if thats what you are using) has never been able to properly judge completion time so thats not really much of an issue, but I have experienced some transfer issues today as well on Windows 10. I was making a backup of internal and when I initiated the transfer it would just say processing and stay at that indefinitely. I would have to unplug the phone to get it to do anything and then once unplugged is when it would change from processing to the transfer dialog coming up before aborting due to the unplugged device. It did this even after a restart of both computer and phone and was the first time I have experienced it with this device. I have never experienced it before with any other device on this PC.
Just tested on my work PC(win7 x64). Before installing the oneplus built-in driver, Even open up the internal storage window takes so long to finish scanning, and just like OP, transfering small files takes forever.
But after installing the driver, and re-plug the cable,things go normal. TRY THAT!!
I have same issue on my home desktop(win10 64bit), but the driver seams help just a bit not exactly like day&night difference on win7
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Windows (if thats what you are using) has never been able to properly judge completion time so thats not really much of an issue, but I have experienced some transfer issues today as well on Windows 10. I was making a backup of internal and when I initiated the transfer it would just say processing and stay at that indefinitely. I would have to unplug the phone to get it to do anything and then once unplugged is when it would change from processing to the transfer dialog coming up before aborting due to the unplugged device. It did this even after a restart of both computer and phone and was the first time I have experienced it with this device. I have never experienced it before with any other device on this PC.
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Just tested on my work PC(win7 x64). Before installing the oneplus built-in driver, Even open up the internal storage window takes so long to finish scanning, and just like OP, transfering small files takes forever.
But after installing the driver, and re-plug the cable,things go normal. TRY THAT!!
I have same issue on my home desktop(win10 64bit), but the driver seams help just a bit not exactly like day&night difference on win7
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Probably should've mentioned this in my OP but I'm running Linux on my laptop, specifically Fedora 27. As mentioned, I haven't had any transfer issues with previous phones or other USB devices. I don't have a Windows installation to further test, but interesting that installing the driver fixed your issues in Windows.
bigmase521 said:
Probably should've mentioned this in my OP but I'm running Linux on my laptop, specifically Fedora 27. As mentioned, I haven't had any transfer issues with previous phones or other USB devices. I don't have a Windows installation to further test, but interesting that installing the driver fixed your issues in Windows.
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That built-in driver including osx/linux driver , you might give a try
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That built-in driver including osx/linux driver , you might give a try
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It has an OSX driver, but not one for Linux. Just a shell script for getting adb set up, which I appreciate, but already have installed.
I'm facing the same issue, extremely slow file transfer to my OP5T using Fedora 27. Transferring music crawls at 1.1 MB/s.
ANDROIDRAZRM said:
I'm facing the same issue, extremely slow file transfer to my OP5T using Fedora 27. Transferring music crawls at 1.1 MB/s.
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Have you checked at which speed the USB works on Fedora for your device? OP5T still has an USB 2.0 port so you should expect to see that.
I also facing the same problem. OnePlus ROM writing speed really slow. I have test both from Windows and MacOS to my OP5T it slower than than copy files to my iPhone5. I hope OnePlus update on their ROM in the next devices I'm so disappointed while they use 6/8GB of RAM and latest processing.
I’m using Oreo beta in my OP 5t and KDE on top of Ubuntu 16.04. File transfer speeds have never been an issue for neither of my devices. (OP 5t and OP 3)
I created an 1 GiB test file with a command:
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fallocate -l 1G test.img
I copied the file to my phone over USB and it took approximately 27 seconds. KDE progress bar was displaying 37 MiB/s, which seems to be pretty accurate as 1024MiB divided by 27 seconds equals ~38MiB/s.
I run the test over my 5Ghz WiFi as well and surprisingly it was faster than USB. I copied the same 1GiB file from my FTP server and it took less than 20 seconds. The speed was ~50MiB/s. A year a go I run the same test with my OP3 and it was slower than usb. The WiFi speed on OP3 was around 30-35MiB/s.
It’s significantly slower to copy many small files than one large one so that may explain the reason some of you are facing slow file transfer speeds.
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I’m using Oreo beta in my OP 5t and KDE on top of Ubuntu 16.04. File transfer speeds have never been an issue for neither of my devices. (OP 5t and OP 3)
I created an 1 GiB test file with a command:
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fallocate -l 1G test.img
I copied the file to my phone over USB and it took approximately 27 seconds. KDE progress bar was displaying 37 MiB/s, which seems to be pretty accurate as 1024MiB divided by 27 seconds equals ~38MiB/s.
I run the test over my 5Ghz WiFi as well and surprisingly it was faster than USB. I copied the same 1GiB file from my FTP server and it took less than 20 seconds. The speed was ~50MiB/s. A year a go I run the same test with my OP3 and it was slower than usb. The WiFi speed on OP3 was around 30-35MiB/s.
It’s significantly slower to copy many small files than one large one so that may explain the reason some of you are facing slow file transfer speeds.
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I tried the same test as you, with similar results. However, when I try to copy about 1GB of mp3 files (average size of 5MB each), the file transfer drops to less than 500 kB/s.
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For me. If I copy massive files its going to go really fast. If u copy ALOT of tiny folders with like 1/10th the size it will probably take longer. Like last time I wanted to transfer my twrp backup to my pc it was going to take so long I had to cancel it.
This goes with everything. Even with just my pc and moving files on my hdd.
But I get your point. That should be faster than that
Appreciate all the testing and analysis. Very similar to what I'm experiencing, fast transfer for a large file (ROM or GAPPS), but slower speeds for "normal"-sized files. The 1.1 Mb/s rates and below are pretty much what I see on Fedora 27 transferring to my OP5t, which is baffling since I had no trouble on my OP3 or OPO. Transfers to my USB 3.0 WD hard drive results in a steady 150MB/sec, so I know it's not an issue w/ anything locally. I think I'll open up a bug report w/ OnePlus and see what they say.
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Appreciate all the testing and analysis. Very similar to what I'm experiencing, fast transfer for a large file (ROM or GAPPS), but slower speeds for "normal"-sized files. The 1.1 Mb/s rates and below are pretty much what I see on Fedora 27 transferring to my OP5t, which is baffling since I had no trouble on my OP3 or OPO. Transfers to my USB 3.0 WD hard drive results in a steady 150MB/sec, so I know it's not an issue w/ anything locally. I think I'll open up a bug report w/ OnePlus and see what they say.
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I did some more testing and it seems that I don't have any transfer speed issues. I copied an audio book folder containing many small mp3 files to my phone. The folder was 757,8MiB in size.
Ubuntu + KDE: 757,8MiB / 34 seconds = 22,3MiB/s
Windows 10: 757,8MiB / 37 seconds = 20,5MiB/s
I also tested SanDisk Ultra 32GB CompactFlash card and USB3 card reader and the copying took 18 seconds. (42,1MiB/s) So it was significantly faster but that was to be expected.