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So you've installed the OTA update. Now you've got software version 1.47.651.1. You've probably attempted to restore to factory using the RUU exe file and you're getting some kind of version error and can't get it back to stock. You've tried to root, but that won't work either.
Well, you're up the creek without a paddle. As of right now, there is no way to restore factory settings, and there is no way to root the OTA update to 1.47.651.1.
If you've installed the HACKED OTA update from the developers forum, you can disregard this post as you have a ROOTED version of the OTA update. But if like a lot of people you either A) purchased a phone with the OTA pre-installed or B) Installed the OTA when Sprints little app popped up asking you "Hey, there's an update, do you want to install it?"
For now, just wait. They're working on it. And by "they" I mean the bright minds of the developers of these great forums, even some not-so-bright minds are lending a hand however they can
In the mean time, check out this thread if you want to see how the progress is coming.
bump..since people are still asking this question. Any chance for a sticky?
What's the best way to get rooted. I've tried te avalauncher way, they tell me I have to be rooted to use it. I've tried the simple root OTA, but when it's suppose to take you to factory restore, my phone goes to a backup/restore screen, so it fails cause I can't restore it. Please give me assistance.
I am running 2.2 from a manual install. No root.
You have to wait until the guys here find a way for p eople to root once they have 2.2 . That could take anywhere from a few days to a few weeks
Most likely you are NOT going to be able to root since you ran the OTA update for 2.2....
That is why you should read what you are flashing and know the consequences prior to doing so. Every thread that contained the download for the 2.2 leak said that it will make you lose root and the ability ( for now ) to gain root status.
You need to wait until one of the geniuses figure out a way to do it.
Sorry about your luck.
The best way is toast method...
Good luck!
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UND3RTAK3R said:
The best way is toast method...you can email me if you have any problems [email protected]
Good luck!
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Not gonna work since he used the 2.2 update man.
EVOme said:
What's the best way to get rooted. I've tried te avalauncher way, they tell me I have to be rooted to use it. I've tried the simple root OTA, but when it's suppose to take you to factory restore, my phone goes to a backup/restore screen, so it fails cause I can't restore it. Please give me assistance.
I am running 2.2 from a manual install. No root.
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1. wrong forum, should be in Q&A
2. if you did the manual update from Sprint, you will have to wait until the devs here create a root method for stock 2.2 is developed. Any existing root method will not work at all.
EVOme said:
What's the best way to get rooted. I've tried te avalauncher way, they tell me I have to be rooted to use it. I've tried the simple root OTA, but when it's suppose to take you to factory restore, my phone goes to a backup/restore screen, so it fails cause I can't restore it. Please give me assistance.
I am running 2.2 from a manual install. No root.
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You installed the plain OTA update? The one that says "not rooted yet" on the thread title?
For each new update, HTC tries to protect its software from being rooted. The last update required users to exploit a Flash Lite vulnerability and took a while. You will probably have to wait a long time before you can root this, since it doesn't have Flash Lite.
For future reference, root first THEN update to a rooted rom released by our devs. You can't just install Ava's rom on top of stock 2.2, it prevents you from doing so.
I'm sorry but HOW MANY posts were there saying if you want to keep root, DO NOT INSTALL THE UPDATE?? Ugh...
And yes I know this isn't constructive but sometimes people just need a slap on the back if the head.
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I'm in the same boat. After trying hard to resist the urge, I gave in and installed the leak. After finding the rooted version, I tried to use the 1.47 RUU to go back but it error-ed out. I'm so bummed I can't go back. Oh well; I knew the risk I was taking though so I guess I have to live with it...
Hours my my day wasted....HOURS!!!
Where's my AR-15
Wow, just wow.
I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
Here we go again
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bludragon742 said:
I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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By digging thru it and finding an exploit.
Which will most likely happen for the 2.2 update as well, just not as of yet.
bludragon742 said:
I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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With a ROM, you can run through the zip file and essentially take out the parts that would remove root and modify as you see fit to put on an already rooted device -- the device isn't running all the security checks on the ROM, since it's already been rooted to remove those. Much easier, almost trivial.
If you have a non-rooted device, though, you have to find a way to get the device, not the ROM, rooted. The device isn't going to take an unofficial ROM. Big difference, since you have to exploit something already on the device somehow. With the last OTA update, it was Flash Lite that could be exploited for root access to the device. With this one, no one has found a method to root the device once the OTA has been applied (and probably won't really try that hard until the official version is released, in case it closes any exploits that are in the version floating around now).
xeno314 said:
With a ROM, you can run through the zip file and essentially take out the parts that would remove root and modify as you see fit to put on an already rooted device -- the device isn't running all the security checks on the ROM, since it's already been rooted to remove those. Much easier, almost trivial.
If you have a non-rooted device, though, you have to find a way to get the device, not the ROM, rooted. The device isn't going to take an unofficial ROM. Big difference, since you have to exploit something already on the device somehow. With the last OTA update, it was Flash Lite that could be exploited for root access to the device. With this one, no one has found a method to root the device once the OTA has been applied (and probably won't really try that hard until the official version is released, in case it closes any exploits that are in the version floating around now).
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Beat me to it and said it better.
bludragon742 said:
I'm in the same boat. After trying hard to resist the urge, I gave in and installed the leak. After finding the rooted version, I tried to use the 1.47 RUU to go back but it error-ed out. I'm so bummed I can't go back. Oh well; I knew the risk I was taking though so I guess I have to live with it...
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I have no idea how it was "hard to resist" when AVA's rooted version showed up at 5:30pm and netarchy's showed up around 9pm. They showed up before any official sprint OTA. Lets also not forget the hundreds of posts warning people that this would happen.
bludragon742 said:
I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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The "rooting method" allows you to get into restricted areas of the phone to install stuff. The act of rooting is breaking into the phone itself, not into the rom. The rom itself is fully accessable and can be hacked up, its just getting it onto the phone is the hard part.
Essentially your phone, stock, is a box that's locked from the inside. For older versions people figured out how to unlock it, so that you can put any hacked up rom onto it. The new OTA, no one knows how to get in yet.
Don't know if that makes sense. It's pretty easy to understand if you understand OS permissions.
EDIT: what the other guy said.
bludragon742 said:
I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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Because someone takes the CONTENT of the update, and applies it piece-by-piece to an already rooted image, ignoring the bits that replace HBOOT and etc.
Mad06STi said:
I have no idea how it was "hard to resist" when AVA's rooted version showed up at 5:30pm and netarchy's showed up around 9pm. .
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I'll tell you why. The thread gets to 200 pages. There are people saying it works, sucks, bricks, awesome, hate it, stay away, success, etc. After reading 40 pages of it you have no idea up from down. Speaking from someone that is not familiar with Android rooting. It's frustrating. Then you go to one of the other 50 threads and it's all the same.
I never saw anywhere that if I installed the leak i'd be screwed. I'm fine with that though. I have 2.2 and can wait. Just annoyed i've spent hours of my day on this.
This thread was a funny read.
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By the question you can tell that i'm rather inexperienced at this, but a buddy of mine(who has a Droid on VZW) and i were debating whether or not doing an OTA update after you root would cause you to loose your ability to root forever.
I guess it's different on both devices, but he contends that he could unroot his droid, which is running a custom 2.2 ROM, install an OTA update, decide he doesn't like it, then just go back to a 2.1 RUU from VZW or Motorola, and then re-root.
Everything i have read here about the EVO indicates that if i am already rooted, and i accept an OTA update, then i will never be able to root again. Does never, really mean never? Or is it just mean that i won't be able to root using the current methods to root the phone?
What if i had never rooted and then accepted the OTA 2.2 from sprint that may be coming this week, would i then be able to root?
What exactly does the update do to remove the ability to get /root access to the phone? Something with the bootloader, HBOOT, or what?
Thanks for the information. Hopefully, this will settle this question for my friend and I.
Chris
OTA updates typically break any existing root methods, and disable any current root access.
Some OTA's also update the phone in a manner which prevents older official roms (that have working roots) from being reinstalled.
At that point, you have an updated rom with known roots removed, that can't be rolled back, so the only option is to wait until another root exploit is found and released. Which may or may not happen depending on the device and whoever is working on it.
Hope that helps.
You can take and accept as many updates as you want....you just have to modify that update by replacing the new hboot with the engineering one.....that way you can freely flash zip files
HTC is tricksy and they dont let you roll back after the OTA. Motorolla may not have this so your friend may in fact be able to roll back to 2.1 (however he may be misinformed as well).
To root basically they find a bug to exploit that allows us to gain access as a root user. when the OTA updates come out 99% of the time they will fix this bug. HTCat least blocks roll backs so now you are on a new version of the software that you can not go backwards and the bug to root is no longer there.
While there are normally other bugs that can be exploited to get root it is possible that there isnt one or that if there is no one can find it. if they cant find it then it could remove your ability to root permanently.
snandlal said:
You can take and accept as many updates as you want....you just have to modify that update by replacing the new hboot with the engineering one.....that way you can freely flash zip files
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while true accepting an OTA will not give you the chance to do this for most.
ok, that explains things a little better. thanks.
I'm new to all of this as well. My EVO has already been updated OTA by a Sprint employee while I was purchasing the phone. From what I've read it looks like I'm SOL until someone cracks 2.2. One quick question though... How long did it take people to be able to root the first software on the EVO's?
So I have stock 2.2... rooted.... and I removed verizon crapware.
I just got the notification that an update is ready for me? this is the one that contains the verizon app store... as well as I think a new kernel.
Is it safe to install? would it even install? If I did would I lose root?
You would loose root if it takes.
The update may fail depending on if it checks for stock apps. Not sure if this update will.
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thehoovie said:
You would loose root if it takes.
The update may fail depending on if it checks for stock apps. Not sure if this update will.
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Well...since the root process also gives s-off... I'm a little confused about all of this. Shouldn't that let me get root back? and wouldn't the update fail since I don't have stock recovery?
Do I say install? Aaaaaigh
If you let it try to restart and install the update ClockworkMod will deny it, and the notification will go away for a while (either one day or one week, I can't remember).
I got the notification an hour or so ago on myn's warm twopointtwo.
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Well...since the root process also gives s-off... I'm a little confused about all of this. Shouldn't that let me get root back? and wouldn't the update fail since I don't have stock recovery?
Do I say install? Aaaaaigh
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Some one might be better able to explain root vs. S-OFF than I but ill give it a try.
Root is for your operating system. It's like in winblows having administrator privileges so you can execute high level commands, modify system settings, etc...
S-OFF allows for your phones bootloader (like a PCs BIOS) to flash unsigned files. So, if we do get an update that removes root, we can flash a custom recovery program, to then install a ROM that does have or can be rooted.
Do a backup. I don't think the update will install or stop bugging you to do it. You should be able to modify your build prop to stop the messages.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9123362&postcount=9
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I'm rooted and have S-Off, standard 2.2 ROM.
I would like to apply this OTA when it arrives, mostly because I'm a developer and have posted a few apps into the VCast store. Need to confirm they are there.
So should I hold off on applying it, or assume I can just use Unrevoked to re-root after the OTA?
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I'm rooted and have S-Off, standard 2.2 ROM.
I would like to apply this OTA when it arrives, mostly because I'm a developer and have posted a few apps into the VCast store. Need to confirm they are there.
So should I hold off on applying it, or assume I can just use Unrevoked to re-root after the OTA?
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+1 for this, I just want to install this for the sake of being up-to-date. I need my precious root, though.
I would like to apply this OTA when it arrives, mostly because I'm a developer and have posted a few apps into the VCast store. Need to confirm they are there.
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Why can't you look in the VCast store otherwise? If your phone is not the newest version then it won't have access to it?
Yeah... I would actually love to be able to install this... Especially since if I read correctly I would keep root.
As for the bloat, I can just remove it like the other bloat...
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I want this update but I'm on virtuous 3.1 and didn't get it... I want the apps and what not
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Mostly because I'd like to be able to check my vCast stats and comments from my phone, plus I think it's a good idea to be a user of the service if I'm selling apps on it.
*I posted this in another thread, copying here*
We have several Dinc's here at work. The only phones to receive this update so far are the slcd incredibles. Amoled doesn't seem to be getting it. And there appears to be a side effect after the update is applied, if you had a bluetooth device connected you need to unpair and re-pair the device. People are noticing that the scrolling seems much faster after the update so I'm going out on a limb and assuming the update had something to do with updating the slcd drivers.
Also had an issue on one where the phone wouldn't boot up after the reboot until the battery was pulled out and put back in.
***This did not break root on any of the phones***
Carnage9270 said:
*I posted this in another thread, copying here*
We have several Dinc's here at work. The only phones to receive this update so far are the slcd incredibles. Amoled doesn't seem to be getting it. And there appears to be a side effect after the update is applied, if you had a bluetooth device connected you need to unpair and re-pair the device. People are noticing that the scrolling seems much faster after the update so I'm going out on a limb and assuming the update had something to do with updating the slcd drivers.
Also had an issue on one where the phone wouldn't boot up after the reboot until the battery was pulled out and put back in.
***This did not break root on any of the phones***
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Mine is one of the originals (had it since day one) and I received the OTA... it just didn't take cause I'm rooted (guessing it has something to do with replacing the recovery with clockwork.
I'd love to know how to apply it in case it was more than just crapware (which I will uninstall since i'm rooted)
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Mine is one of the originals (had it since day one) and I received the OTA... it just didn't take cause I'm rooted (guessing it has something to do with replacing the recovery with clockwork.
I'd love to know how to apply it in case it was more than just crapware (which I will uninstall since i'm rooted)
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I'm in the same situation, rooted original Incredible with Clockwork
This seems to be the info on the ota.
http://theflickcast.com/2010/11/12/htc-droid-incredible-ota-update-rolling-out/
And here's a link if you want the vcast apk
http://phandroid.com/2010/11/09/dro...ate-goes-out-today-v-cast-apps-now-available/
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This seems to be the info on the ota.
http://theflickcast.com/2010/11/12/htc-droid-incredible-ota-update-rolling-out/
And here's a link if you want the vcast apk
http://phandroid.com/2010/11/09/dro...ate-goes-out-today-v-cast-apps-now-available/
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I'd like those bug fixes, but it's not worth losing root :/
So it looks like someone will need to grab the OTA update... and repackage it as an update.zip for clockwork
Successfully rooted my FT 51.1.1.0 but following the guides, indicate I should downgrade to 51.1.0.2.
I tried twice unsuccessfully.
Question: Do I really need to downgrade? I never watch hulu or net flix, EVER.
tia
I do notice a slow response to the remote after a few clicks. Not sure what caused this, and what could fix it since it freezes for a minute or two.
Downgrade?
How did you downgraded it?
What guides? Once rooting is successful, I'm not sure why you would want to downgrade. I'd think that the next step is to install the custom recovery and install the pre-rooted version of the most current firmware. At least that's what I've always done.
AFTV v54.*.* doesn't allow to root the device....Can I downgrade the firmware to version v51.*.*.*????
kosackks said:
AFTV v54.*.* doesn't allow to root the device....Can I downgrade the firmware to version v51.*.*.*????
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Unfortunately if you can't root you you can't downgrade. You need custom recovery for that. You should go over to aftvnews and check out the guides.
Personally, if it were me I'd go to aftvnews and I think they keep a running list of serial numbers. If youre in the US, return the aftv to staples or bestbuy and check the serials. In recent trips to bestbuy I've found lots of bare shelves for both the box and the sticks but I wish you luck!
If root is that important to you, they can still be had on ebay prerooted for a higher price but last time I looked I was surprised to see they were still considerably cheaper than the atv 2 that just stopped receiving development.
Thanks for your Answer KLit75.
I'm sorry to be "newbie", but I'm curious without knowledge, my question is: Can I flash the AFTV Stick (any version) with OpenELEC?
Ironically I had the exact same situation as this. I figured it out yesterday.
I would provide links and all, but I am not able to do that currently.
So for now, these are the steps I had to take in a basic list.
I will start out by saying I had the earliest software made. I don't remember all of the specific numbers. I was attempting to upgrade to the latest pre rooted rom.
I had to "downgrade" to the version above mine (51.1......0.2 or something)
I had to flash CWM
Fully unlock boot loader
Install 51.1....4.... Something prerooted software
Install boot menu (Required in the versions newer than the 51.1.4....)
THEN upgrade to the latest pre rooted rom.
I saw barely any help online for this, seeing as most people do not have to use that extra step of updating the software a bit to even use CWM.
do not use the CWM recovery with the 51.1.0 software. It will brick it.
The reason I had to go from the version before the latest, was because you can't go from that early version to the latest. You also need to install the boot menu if upgrading to a recent one.
It took several hours to do. With transferring files and many more things. This is without any error. So you can just imagine if you get stuck on one part. It's back to root one.
It takes a lot of patience and courage! I was afraid of losing root for many hours.... Not that fun. But it was kind of worth it. The mouse cursor is broken for me. So that is unfortunate with the new update.
I am using a firetv box that was rootable from the start to be clear.
GOOD LUCK!! It IS NOT worth it if you have not went through hours of debugging with android before. Trust me.
AFTV Stick With OpenELEC
I'll give a try to this, may be on weekend. Anyway thank you for your tips, I'm thinking the same way you've explained before.
Same thing, It's not that I can spend AFTV Stick's doing this , but I believe It should be much better with OpenELEC on it.
Best Regards to you all.