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[Q] Desire or DesireHD?

so I pretty much decided I'm getting the HTC Desire over the Nexus one, but now with the Desire HD's release about 1 month away I'm debating whether or not to wait.
To be honest I'm in love with the HD's huge screen and looks, but looks alone don't cut it for me. I plan to jump on board the modding/rooting community as soon as I can (just starting out atm) and the Desire is the better choice when it comes to that since its been rooted and messed around with already.
I just worry that I will have to wait a very long time for the Desire HD to be rooted successfully, or it will turnout to be hard to hack and play with like the Nexus one and Desire as I want to try my hand at some hacking myself.
what do you think I should do?
Thanks in advance
EDIT: ok thanks everyone for the replies, I've pretty much decided to go with the Desire. I need a phone I can play around with right away so the Desire would be the better choice. Maybe in the near future when I need a new phone android phones will be more out of the box hacker friendly (hints @ HTC)

If I were you I'd take the HD, but after hTC's stunt with the T-Mobile G2, I'm not so sure at all. If you really want to customise your phone properly, then your best bet would be the Desire.

I'm after the HD now, as i'm a phone whore. So if you want a Desire £230 if you fancy it, unbranded, used but never damaged. Screen mint, phone mint. PM if your interested.

diablous said:
I'm after the HD now, as i'm a phone whore. So if you want a Desire £230 if you fancy it, unbranded, used but never damaged. Screen mint, phone mint. PM if your interested.
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thank you for the offer, but i'm still trying to decide between both phones. do post back and tell me how the HD was though
h3llb3nd4 said:
If I were you I'd take the HD, but after hTC's stunt with the T-Mobile G2, I'm not so sure at all. If you really want to customise your phone properly, then your best bet would be the Desire.
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what stunt? and i am leaning more towards the desire at the moment because its more customizable. i'll look around the Desire HD forum for more info, maybe that will help me decide.

ByteFalcon said:
thank you for the offer, but i'm still trying to decide between both phones. do post back and tell me how the HD was though
what stunt? and i am leaning more towards the desire at the moment because its more customizable. i'll look around the Desire HD forum for more info, maybe that will help me decide.
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here you go
http://nexus404.com/Blog/2010/10/06...epair-if-rooted-modding-community-cries-foul/

Desire!
definetly a Desire. A guy at work got one today and i was well jelous until i saw it in the flesh.
The screen is bigger but the resolution isnt much higher than the desire resulting in a big average screen.
Obviously the cloud features are a benifit but no doublt a custom rom will turn up with them on sooner or later.

Aye. supposedly we're going to get the HD sense package for our desires in December too! w00t.
Sent from my HTC Desire - XDA App, rooted and free of market restrictions

I think you should go for Desire. Spending more money just for HD features when your use is mainly for modding - ahhh... doesnt make sense to me
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... free of market restrictions
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Hey, what do you mean by Free of Market Restrictions? (sorry for going offtopic)

I have a Desire and wanted a Desire HD. Until I noticed, it's not the hardware I want. It's the software.
I think the design of the Desire is better.
I also like the physical buttons more. (My mom got a Wildfire, I had using it cause I always accidently hit the capatative buttons).
I think the size is perfect. Sometimes I feel like I wouldn't mind if the Desire was bigger. At other times when using with 1 hand, I find it a bit big.
It's the nw HTC Sense that I noticed I REALLY want. And I'm gonna get that anyway. Officially or modded.

kekkle said:
I have a Desire and wanted a Desire HD. Until I noticed, it's not the hardware I want. It's the software.
I think the design of the Desire is better.
I also like the physical buttons more. (My mom got a Wildfire, I had using it cause I always accidently hit the capatative buttons).
I think the size is perfect. Sometimes I feel like I wouldn't mind if the Desire was bigger. At other times when using with 1 hand, I find it a bit big.
It's the nw HTC Sense that I noticed I REALLY want. And I'm gonna get that anyway. Officially or modded.
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I share your exact same views, I really wished HTC would make a smaller sized flagship phone...

h3llb3nd4 said:
here you go
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oh yeah, i heard that this feature was on the motorola Droid, had no idea HTC did that same thing to the G2. While the phone will most likely be sold here unbranded and unlocked, since I got Legend which was exclusively sold by vodaphone unbranded and unlocked, i think it will most likely be a built-in hardware feature regardless of whether or not its exclusive to a certain carrier. that seems to be the on going trend right now with HTC and other manufacturers.
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at the moment the Desire seems to be the better choice for me, i was considering the HD version based purely on physical looks. after seeing the HD2 in person i loved the huge screen and i thought the Desire HD will be like a buffed up android version of the HD2. i know the Desire will eventually get the updated Sense UI so i have no worries regarding the software.
As for the camera, 5MP is good enough for me when i want to take pictures on the go, otherwise i bring along a real camera with me. I don't think phone cameras are good enough to replace an actual camera just yet.

ByteFalcon said:
so I pretty much decided I'm getting the HTC Desire over the Nexus one, but now with the Desire HD's release about 1 month away I'm debating whether or not to wait.
To be honest I'm in love with the HD's huge screen and looks, but looks alone don't cut it for me. I plan to jump on board the modding/rooting community as soon as I can (just starting out atm) and the Desire is the better choice when it comes to that since its been rooted and messed around with already.
I just worry that I will have to wait a very long time for the Desire HD to be rooted successfully, or it will turnout to be hard to hack and play with like the Nexus one and Desire as I want to try my hand at some hacking myself.
what do you think I should do?
Thanks in advance
EDIT: ok thanks everyone for the replies, I've pretty much decided to go with the Desire. I need a phone I can play around with right away so the Desire would be the better choice. Maybe in the near future when I need a new phone android phones will be more out of the box hacker friendly (hints @ HTC)
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I want to jump on the band wagon here cos im in the same boat, and this thread has thrown a spanner in the works!!
Ive currently got a rooted hero but lack the power from a 1ghz amongst other things....ive played in length with the Desire and genuinely love it, but its knocking on a bit now so am tempted to hold out for the Desire HD as the price is only £100 diff.
What are we saying about the new HD ? Is it likely to going to be a ball ache to do what the desire already does well.....dont get me wrong ill wait for the dev work to catch up but obviously if theres **** hard coded designed to prevent rooting is it gonna be worth it?
also im going unbranded this time....if that makes a difference (aside from the obvious lack of network restrictions!)

I'd suggest wait till the community has successfully rooted the HD, then decide

aww I was gonna go buy the Desire tomorrow, now I can't decide again haha
I can call HTC's distributor here and ask them when exactly the device will release here and how much it will be for. When i was comparing between the Nexus and Desire the price was almost the same but now there is obviously going to be a significant price difference.
I guess for me now it all comes down to the price and customization ability.
I've checked the Desire HD's forums and there seems to be a temporary root solution for it at the moment. Looks like they are still working on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=812358

[Q] New phone or continue with my Desire?

I love my HTC Desire more than any phone I have ever had. I baught it the day it came out, and I have not had any trouble with it ever since. I have used CM since 6.x version and I love the product. It has kept me up to date without having to upgrade my phone.
Now im testing out some of the ISC versions that works on my phone, still I feel that the hardware is now not enough for me, (including cam- quality, and especially internal memory and processor speed).
So I wonder what phone should I consider if I decide to buy a new phone? Or should I wait for something extraordinary to come on the market?

Wait for HTC Edge or Ville. I also came to conclusion that I want better GPU and better camera. For 2-year-old phone Desire is still unbelievable competitive.

mikbe said:
Wait for HTC Edge or Ville. I also came to conclusion that I want better GPU and better camera. For 2-year-old phone Desire is still unbelievable competitive.
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Those two phones looks amazing, especially the Edge with the quad-core. Hope the camera could be a reasonably replacement for a digital camera. I havent seen many phones that can match the flash that regular digital cameras have.
I am more devoted to stay with HTC after I saw they have the HTCdev.com .
Was considering to look into some of the samsung- phones, but I feel its a bit more plastic than HTC.

I agree with mikbe on this one. My Desire is suprisingly competitive after almost two years. If I should buy a phone today, it would probably be the SII. But since my Desire is still alive and kicking, I'm gonna wait for the "next big thing", whatever (or whoever) that might be. I love my HTC, but I'm not married to them Maybe the SIII...?

eirikgu said:
I agree with mikbe on this one. My Desire is suprisingly competitive after almost two years. If I should buy a phone today, it would probably be the SII. But since my Desire is still alive and kicking, I'm gonna wait for the "next big thing", whatever (or whoever) that might be. I love my HTC, but I'm not married to them Maybe the SIII...?
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After experimenting with launchers and AOSP I have always come back to Sense. That's why HTC is my next phone.

i got the galaxy nexus, but i still use the desire, its just more fun playing with different roms & mods

deniros said:
i got the galaxy nexus, but i still use the desire, its just more fun playing with different roms & mods
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Same here, still enjoying my Desire as if I got it yesterday.

Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
Moving to Q&A

if you buy today,then I would choose HTC Sensation
but it is reasonable to wait for HTC Edge
if you buy the Samsung I bought a samsung galaxy nexus

Just be a few weeks until the next set of HTC phones will be released at MWC. I would wait until after then - something might grab you, or if not, the current phones should come down in price. This is the worst time to buy just now!

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Just be a few weeks until the next set of HTC phones will be released at MWC. I would wait until after then - something might grab you, or if not, the current phones should come down in price. This is the worst time to buy just now!
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after my htc desire I may switch to the htc sensation
though...i also like the size and look of it very much
having a tablet some of the 'new-power-devices' features are not required
i may even go back to a smaller phone next time...so having more a 'telephone' than a small supercomputer
I was htc fan for many years now..but also considering a samsung as my next android phone

I think I will wait for the next great HTC phone. Now that I have Sandvolds ICS I can float a bit longer. And now that I have an extra partition I can install lots of stuff. The ICS is a bit buggy, bit hopefully it will become complete. Sandvold is doing a great job. Recommend it for everyone !

HTC & ICS Original Roms For Desire

hi xda
Why do not send mail to HTC company for update Desire in ICS system
Because HTC ONE V like that Desire

YoUnEs DeX said:
Why do not send with the HTC company update for Desire in ICS system
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What????

YoUnEs DeX said:
hi xda
Why do not send with the HTC company update for Desire in ICS system
Because HTC ONE V like that Desire
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Fail?
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I really hope you're joking.

cronus101 said:
What????
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send mail to HTC for update Desire in ICS

k3lcior said:
I really hope you're joking.
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way not

Yes, HTC will do it.
LOL (lot of lies)

I was hoping something like this would pop up. This section has been slow and probably will be slower in the next couple of weeks.
Off topic but wth:
I'm still torn between One X and One S.
I intended to get One S but it seems that One X took all the development away from One S. From what I've been reading, OneS out perform OneX even. The only thing that puts me off about OneX is the damn size.
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stankyou said:
I was hoping something like this would pop up. This section has been slow and probably will be slower in the next couple of weeks.
Off topic but wth:
I'm still torn between One X and One S.
I intended to get One S but it seems that One X took all the development away from One S. From what I've been reading, OneS out perform OneX even. The only thing that puts me off about OneX is the damn size.
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You'll get used to the size. I was struggling at first, but then, after using it for a couple of weeks, wow... I'm so happy I bought it. What you have been reading is benchmarks. There is no real performance difference aside from t3 games. The battery on the OneS is better though. What made me choose it over the One S was the available memory. But why don't you go to a store and try them both. That should help a lot.

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But why don't you go to a store and try them both. That should help a lot.
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That's what sucks. The One S is not released officially here on our region. Only the One X and the One V. It's kinda difficult to make an overall comparison when I can only get One S online at the moment.

cronus101 said:
You'll get used to the size. I was struggling at first, but then, after using it for a couple of weeks, wow... I'm so happy I bought it. What you have been reading is benchmarks. There is no real performance difference aside from t3 games. The battery on the OneS is better though. What made me choose it over the One S was the available memory. But why don't you go to a store and try them both. That should help a lot.
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I wonder why some countries like mine do not stock the One S. It seems better than the One X. However, as it is not being sold in my country, I'm unable to get it with contract. And its too expensive for me to get it online.
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stankyou said:
I was hoping something like this would pop up. This section has been slow and probably will be slower in the next couple of weeks.
Off topic but wth:
I'm still torn between One X and One S.
I intended to get One S but it seems that One X took all the development away from One S. From what I've been reading, OneS out perform OneX even. The only thing that puts me off about OneX is the damn size.
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Besides performance and speed of the devices: i recommended to go to a store where they have both devices. Grab them and have a look at the displays! The one X just kills the one s (slcd vs. amolad with pentile matrix i think -correct me if i am wrong). if you compare both displays, you will immediatly see the disadvantages of the pentile matrix of the one s...

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Besides performance and speed of the devices: i recommended to go to a store where they have both devices. Grab them and have a look at the displays! The one X just kills the one s (slcd vs. amolad with pentile matrix i think -correct me if i am wrong). if you compare both displays, you will immediatly see the disadvantages of the pentile matrix of the one s...
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As I've said before, OneS is not available in my region. I would love to compare it side by side but HTC don't wanna do business so it seems.
I might wait a little bit to see how SGS3 stacks up
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I picked up a One X as an upgrade on Vodafone, it's going back and I'll switch back to my trusty old Desire for a while. No issues with screen flex or any of the other gremlins that seem to have plagued people, I'm simply massively annoyed at the way HTC are handling "unlocking" after the big hooraw they made about "listening to their customers". Well, that and the fact the phone is a sealed unit. I hated the idea when the iPhone was initially released and find that I still do. Swappable battery and memory is simply too useful to live without on a daily handset.
Don't get me wrong, the phone itself is a nice unit. Both pleasant in the hand and nice to use, the screen is quite lovely and the camera seems to manage quite well although I suspect it will have the same issues as the Desire in long term use with the lens getting scratched and affecting image quality.
I'll look at the S3 when it's released but will probably hang on for a while, Samsung usually offer nice hardware specs but the firmware is almost always atrocious.

Upgrading to one X

Hey! I currently have a HTC desire S and am thinking about upgrading to the one x. Has anyone seen it as being a worthwhile jump from the incredible s or desire s. I really like the one x, but just a little hesistant to make the final leap. Thanks Guys. I hope to be a regular member of this section of the forums.
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yes go for it!
now is the best time with the latest 2.17 fixing moat niggles

I'm just scared about there being detected models. Like h23 or something lol. I don't even know what that means
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sayeed91 said:
I'm just scared about there being detected models. Like h23 or something lol. I don't even know what that means
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Don't let such a fear get to you. I doubt the newer models have that much of a problem anymore. Just make sure you search for any possible problems that can occur at the beginning. If you plan on rooting and flashing your phone i would even wait for up to 2~3 weeks but that's really up to you to decide. You won't regret this phone, good luck!

I used to have the incredible s and this phone is far better. Plus the 2.17 update is amazing! If you buy now you will get newer models without issues.

A new revised version of One X (AKA Endeavour C2) is already in the works. I’d say wait for it.

PhoenixFx said:
A new revised version of One X (AKA Endeavour C2) is already in the works. I’d say wait for it.
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But what is the projected price on such a device?...

wargasm009 said:
But what is the projected price on such a device?...
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Hardly any changes, more like a small revision to the current HOX. Price should be just a tad more expensive.

ArmedandDangerous said:
Hardly any changes, more like a small revision to the current HOX. Price should be just a tad more expensive.
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Im guessing the bump in clock speed would 'justify' that...either way, Id wait on it...although, I want to see what the next Nexus has to offer

Don't do it. Buy the galaxy s3 or the one s. HOX is the most disappointing phone I've ever owned. It may well be the case that the newer ones come without defects but that kind of consideration should not even be in the equation when deciding on your next phone. I expect it to work properly out of the box.
No doubt every phone has its problems when first released but the myriad of problems with the HOX is unacceptable especially regarding htc's poor history of quality control.
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narcoustic said:
Don't do it. Buy the galaxy s3 or the one s. HOX is the most disappointing phone I've ever owned. It may well be the case that the newer ones come without defects but that kind of consideration should not even be in the equation when deciding on your next phone. I expect it to work properly out of the box.
No doubt every phone has its problems when first released but the myriad of problems with the HOX is unacceptable especially regarding htc's poor history of quality control.
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The reason the HOX was so desirable is because it isnt as pocket burning as the SGS3....if the HOX+ manages to emerge without issues, it would be a definite buy...then again, feel like waiting to see what the new Nexus has to offer

[Q] Your Desire's second life?

Hey guys the Desire has been out on the market for a while now and I'd think that some/many of you would have had a chance to get a new phone. Therefore I'm curious whether this is actually the case and, if so, where are you still using it for? Did you find alternative applications?

I think most of the people here use their desires at their primary device (or for a friend or loved ones primary) . That being said I also think most people here are stuck in contracts, frugal, or from a country with weak buying power. Because let's be honest..There are much better phones out there.

JT-on said:
I think most of the people here use their desires at their primary device (or for a friend or loved ones primary) . That being said I also think most people here are stuck in contracts, frugal, or from a country with weak buying power. Because let's be honest..There are much better phones out there.
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Perhaps they just don't want to trash a working phone? Because that's quite a decadent attitude. I count myself to these people who just don't want to be a consumption zombie just because there's something "better and new". :cyclops:

m3adow said:
Perhaps they just don't want to trash a working phone? Because that's quite a decadent attitude. I count myself to these people who just don't want to be a consumption zombie just because there's something "better and new". :cyclops:
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I agree with your logic. I know there are much better and powerful phones out there and may be I can afford them too.
But my Desire is working flawlessly and there is not a single scratch on the screen and all the hardware buttons ate working well.
Keep flashing new ROMs and I don't see any reason to get the latest and greatest phone spending a fortune. I will get one when my dear old Desire dies completely :thumbup:
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Somehow I agree. I'd rather spend that money upgrading pc than buying a new phone which is exactly that - a phone.
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Had my Desire since it came out in the UK and still going strong. Better phones coming out all the time but my Desire does everything I need to do so will keep with it until it gives up the ghost.
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I agree with your logic. I know there are much better and powerful phones out there and may be I can afford them too.
But my Desire is working flawlessly and there is not a single scratch on the screen and all the hardware buttons ate working well.
Keep flashing new ROMs and I don't see any reason to get the latest and greatest phone spending a fortune. I will get one when my dear old Desire dies completely :thumbup:
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That, although I got mine as payment for SIM unlocking a stack of 10 of them... And it sounds a bit more "lived in" than yours. Got one persistent issue with wifi tether and WPA2 so will probably order up a new phone soon.

m3adow said:
Perhaps they just don't want to trash a working phone? Because that's quite a decadent attitude. I count myself to these people who just don't want to be a consumption zombie just because there's something "better and new". :cyclops:
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I agree, add that to the list. I'd like to mention selling and upgrading is a healthy alternative to downright trashing.
For me, I've been pained with reception issues with my desire. I believe in the desires case newer is better.
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I have been using the desire from 18 months now. I like playing around with it. I guess I may use it for another one year or so. There is nothing wrong with the phone except the battery (Not such a big issue for me as I have a desk job and can charge it anytime).

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I will get one when my dear old Desire dies completely :thumbup:
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Desire will not die This phone is like N3310
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I'm not stuck in any contract and I'll also keep my Desire as long as it works. I like the weight, size, build quality, and capabilities. With a nice ROM it does pretty much the same things as newer phones. So why should I spend money on a newer, bigger, plastic phone if I like what I have.
Another thing is that after playing with friends' newer Android phones or iPhones I still like my Desire most. I'd be in trouble if I was to choose "my next phone" nowadays. I think the Desire has a big chance to become one of those "legendary phones" that people will remember and miss for a long time to come.

I don't stuck in contract too. I could buy me a new phone if i want, but i don't want that because my Desire got a second live thanks to vijendrahs.
I've installed vijendrahs CM10 JB 4.1.2 and i am very happy with that.
My Desire (i buy it 31 months ago) works like a charm, very fast and smooth.
Need to say:
This is the first phone, i use for that long period of time! Before i bought new phones every 12 to 24 months.

mmo74 said:
I don't stuck in contract too. I could buy me a new phone if i want, but i don't want that because my Desire got a second live thanks to vijendrahs.
I've installed vijendrahs CM10 JB 4.1.2 and i am very happy with that.
My Desire (i buy it 31 months ago) works like a charm, very fast and smooth.
Need to say:
This is the first phone, i use for that long period of time! Before i bought new phones every 12 to 24 months.
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Yes, this is the first phone that I have managed to use for so long (33 months) and thanks to Custom ROMs, I am as happy today as I was on day 1.
More importantly, the phone has worked flawlessly all this time!

I bought a Desire S to replace my original Desire (PVT1), and gave my Desire to the missus. But I had hardware problems with the Desire S and I really didn't lioke how difficult it was to move the text cursor around on the screen when you can't see what you're doing because your fingers are in the way!
So I bought myself another original Desire (this time a PVT3), and that's what I'm using now. My wife has a Desire HD now as she prefers a bigger screen, so I've got the PVT1 back as well to use as a spare.
As well as being one of the last phones to have a decent hardware touchpad, the Desire is also nice and easy to change things on. I still plan to get the Desire S fixed (as newer OS releases have made the cursor work a bit better), but I'll keep the Desire for a while yet.

i think the desire does a real good job, when im looking to the JB ports... when you keep in mind, that the desire was (IMHO) the first good android phone (parallel to the first nexus )

I still really like the desire, but I had some problems with overheating, which resulted in bootloops and crashing the system. Additionally some buttons were not functioning properly, especially the volume and menu buttons, and I've got some difficulties hearing people at the other end of "the line".
I prefer the hardware buttons and the touchpad to whatever screen solution google is coming up with these days...

I'm still using my Desire as my primary phone after almost 3 years - first of all because I don't want to spend money on a new phone when this is working perfectly.
Admitted, I did spend a LOT of time flashing different ROMs in order to keep my phone alive and up-to-date. I thought as long as I got the latest android, why would I need a new phone?
Just downgraded to Gingerbread, though. Althogh JB was fun, I just like using tried-and-tested software on a tried-and-tested phone.
ALSO: why did they go away from hardware buttons? I would only buy a new phone which still has that optic trackball.

dvsk69 said:
I agree with your logic. I know there are much better and powerful phones out there and may be I can afford them too.
But my Desire is working flawlessly and there is not a single scratch on the screen and all the hardware buttons ate working well.
Keep flashing new ROMs and I don't see any reason to get the latest and greatest phone spending a fortune. I will get one when my dear old Desire dies completely :thumbup:
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I completely agree

Bobode said:
I'm still using my Desire as my primary phone after almost 3 years - first of all because I don't want to spend money on a new phone when this is working perfectly.
Admitted, I did spend a LOT of time flashing different ROMs in order to keep my phone alive and up-to-date. I thought as long as I got the latest android, why would I need a new phone?
Just downgraded to Gingerbread, though. Althogh JB was fun, I just like using tried-and-tested software on a tried-and-tested phone.
ALSO: why did they go away from hardware buttons? I would only buy a new phone which still has that optic trackball.
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Agree, that trackball does (text) editing so much better, therefor i even like my D even more than my DHD

I totally agree with you guys. I plan to stick to my Desire for as long I can, this phone is just so good I hope it never breaks down.
With all the support from the developers here and some really great roms (especially vijendrahs CM10 JB 4.1.2) this phone has got alot going for it.
The funniest thing is when my friends brag about their phone having this or that that my phone hasn't I just tell them, well... we'll see in three years time what phone and rom you'll be using, my Desire has come this far so... and i've got JB on it while they mostly have ICS (they just stick to not rooting and flashing so it depends on the phone manufacturer).