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So need help perm rooting

Okay I have a G2, just got it and I need to perm root it. I looked at the sticky guide but most of the links aren't loading for me, don't know why, either thread isn't there or link expired or w/e. I don't know, but I need some help.
First, how do I find out if I have 1.72 or an earlier version
Second, do I use "rage"? method or VISIONary and what's the latest version of visionary?
Third, about how long does the process take?
Any help is appreciated.

James_Caliber said:
Okay I have a G2, just got it and I need to perm root it. I looked at the sticky guide but most of the links aren't loading for me, don't know why, either thread isn't there or link expired or w/e. I don't know, but I need some help.
First, how do I find out if I have 1.72 or an earlier version
Second, do I use "rage"? method or VISIONary and what's the latest version of visionary?
Third, about how long does the process take?
Any help is appreciated.
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Every thing you need to know about rooting is in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision just start reading from Rooting the Vision (G2/DZ) and DHD or you can read the whole page. Don't use VISIONary, you have a chance of getting stuck in a boot loop, use Rage and GFree. You'll need the android SDK to get ADB. I'm not sure how long rooting takes, I haven't done it yet as I don't have my G2 until next week but I have been reading about root for the past week. From what I know, 1.72 is only if you have a Desire Z. If you have any more questions, I'm sure me or another member can answer you.

KoolKidsKlub said:
Every thing you need to know about rooting is in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision just start reading from Rooting the Vision (G2/DZ) and DHD or you can read the whole page. Don't use VISIONary, you have a chance of getting stuck in a boot loop, use Rage and GFree. You'll need the android SDK to get ADB. I'm not sure how long rooting takes, I haven't done it yet as I don't have my G2 until next week but I have been reading about root for the past week. From what I know, 1.72 is only if you have a Desire Z. If you have any more questions, I'm sure me or another member can answer you.
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Do you know what the 1.72 # refers to? Is it the build number or something else?
Thanks a lot for your help though. I'll start reading

James_Caliber said:
Do you know what the 1.72 # refers to? Is it the build number or something else?
Thanks a lot for your help though. I'll start reading
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If you have a Tmobile G2 (from your first post, I assume you do) you don't need to worry about 1.72 it for the Desire Z. There are three methods to root with, them being Visionary, Rage, gfree. Gfree by far has caused the least amount of problems. If you know ADB rooting should be pretty simple, just follow the wiki on rooting with gfree. If your not familiar with ADB, there are methods to root without having to use it. But its always good and recommended to have it installed and running. There are guide here to help walk you thru it, but if for some reason its to difficult or you don't quite understand it, like I said there are methods to root with out it. There is a modified way to run gfree with your home computer and terminal emulator on your phone. Also the visionary method too, now many people have had problems with visionary, I'm not one of them, it is how I rooted my phone, but I can't stress the importance of reading and putting the time into understanding what you are and want to do to modify your phone, far to many people act before understanding and run into many problems including bricking there phones, I know some of the threads are really long in this forum but that's no excuse, whenever I try something new I read the entire thread first start to finish because any problems you may have, the solution has probably already been givin somewhere in the thread. There is no rush to jump into something you don't understand, my suggestion is to invest the time to read and understand how to root you phone first.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

Even if you root using rage, you can still install and use gfree on your phone. I can confirm that it works.
Just stay away from Visionary.

blackknightavalon said:
Even if you root using rage, you can still install and use gfree on your phone. I can confirm that it works.
Just stay away from Visionary.
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This.
This is my first Android phone and I was able to follow the Wiki and root it pretty easily. The only part I didnt do was installing the Engineering Hboot. Just cause it is labeled as optional and unnecessary and the warning about bricked phones scared me away from it.
This ADB Guide for Noobs was pretty helpful in the process too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865685
With that link and the Wiki your all set.

boost3d23 said:
This.
This is my first Android phone and I was able to follow the Wiki and root it pretty easily. The only part I didnt do was installing the Engineering Hboot. Just cause it is labeled as optional and unnecessary and the warning about bricked phones scared me away from it.
This ADB Guide for Noobs was pretty helpful in the process too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865685
With that link and the Wiki your all set.
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You're missing out with the engineering bootloader. You'll have more recovery options with it installed.

blackknightavalon said:
You're missing out with the engineering bootloader. You'll have more recovery options with it installed.
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I might install it later on, if that is possible and wont cause issues.

boost3d23 said:
I might install it later on, if that is possible and wont cause issues.
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Yeah that's what I'm going to do. I'm going to root the phone then when I feel more comfortable, I'm going to flash the engineering HBOOT. It's not that I'm scared, well I sorta am but I would rather not do something that isn't necessary. I'm coming from a rooted G1 so I know what it does and everything, I just don't think its necessary. The way I look at is is this, if you flash the HBOOT then your a lot safer because you can use fastboot flash to save your self from a semi-brick, but at the same time, flashing the HBOOT is also dangerous because you can brick your phone beyond repair.

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Sorry guys, I know this is an old thread, but isn't it better to post on something existing rather than creating a new thread? Hopefully I'm right...
Anyhow, I'm a Sprint convert and I now have the G2. Rooting the Samsung Epic I had was super easy, because I downloaded a one-click script that did everything for me. However, I'm fairly tech-savvy and accomplished just about everything for the rooting procedures using gfree and rage.
However, when I use gfree_verify, I get the message 'verify could not initialize the device!'. I think I run into my problem when I get to this part:
# /data/local/tmp/root
# sync
when I run the first line, I get a message about file existing that it says to expect... but it also says that "the rest of the script should still run ok". Well, after I get the file existing message, it goes back to the prompt. If there was a script that ran after that message, wouldn't I see other messages before it returned to the prompt?
I hope I'm making sense... and I hope I posted this in the right place. I'm dying to get a Sense ROM on my phone, but I need to get some sleep for work tomorrow. Any help that everyone could provide would be EXTREMELY appreciated Thanks so much!!
...EDIT...
Apparently, despite my lack of luck with verification, root is in place in my phone and has stayed after reboot. I've flashed clockwork and have used Superuser access... all seems to be well! Thanks anyway

[q] help the needy!

Well, i recently bought a desire hd(shifted from windows mobile), well i am rather scared to brick my device, so i would really appreciate if someone could direct me into the correct path of flashing my phone with cyanogen's Roms, at the moment, i have done reading, but i still have doubts and i cant really digest all the information given out there in certain threads, so please do help me! Thank You.

I would follow the Cyanogenmod wiki for completeness, this will taje you by the hand from stock to CM goodness

well, thank you, but i have a question, i have already rooted my phone using visionary, so i must i still root it using the method in the wiki?

That CM method is manual, and very complicated compared to the methods in this forum. You do not need to root using RATC when you have Visionary.

Ok, so yeah I have rooted with visionary, so in the wiki it mention that installing engineering hboot isn't necessary. So should I skip that step? Do I need to flash a new radio in order to flash cynogen mod? I am sorry for asking ridiculous questions. But I am rather worried to brick my beauty.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

simmarjit said:
Ok, so yeah I have rooted with visionary, so in the wiki it mention that installing engineering hboot isn't necessary. So should I skip that step? Do I need to flash a new radio in order to flash cynogen mod? I am sorry for asking ridiculous questions. But I am rather worried to brick my beauty.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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I personally would recommend flashing the hboot and also Radio S-OFF'ing, and I would recommend flashing the latest radio as it seems to improve battery life.
The reason I recommend the manual CM method is not every one has access to windows machines which many of the one click tools require,.

confusing, i am sorry, really and truly am, i am a noob with 0 knowledge on this, but i have flashed around with windows mobile though, please do help me, just guide me, small baby steps would do, spare me some of you time. Please and thank you,.

[Q] Excited to get a DINC2.....questions about a lot of things.

Hey guys. I'm going to order my DINC2 tomorrow because I'm due for an upgrade. I've been reading a LOT around these forums. There is a TON of information and I love it, but the thing is, there's too much to the point where I don't know if everything is up to date, etc. My main goal with my DINC2 will just to be to flash a ROM based on CM7 that is currently on these forums. The thing is, there is a way to do this that looks sort of outdated. It is the method that involves downgrading hboot, then doing all the other misc stuff that is shown in a guide. I came across a tool that unlocks the bootloader from htcdev (not sure if I am allowed to reference this. sorry in advance if this violates rules).
The thing is, there is all this talk of S-off/S-on, perm root, etc. and it's overwhelming for me because I have never owned a smartphone before, much less an Android smartphone. What would be the most up to date method to flash the CM7 ROM onto the DINC2? The Unlock Bootloader method seems like it would be much simpler....but I'm not sure what capabilities the unlocked bootloader would give me.

Hi, welcome. You should root with revolutionary. Plain and simple. Bootloader unlock makes you have to do an extra step whenever you flash a ROM. I would go to revolutionary.io and use their method. It is actually very easy. If you HTC unlock, you can use my guide on what to do next in my signature.

Thank you for directing me to that link. I've been wondering for awhile if anyone had a super concise guide on how to do EVERYTHING.....really good guide!

But as stated before, the ideal way is to downgrade and s-off. No extra steps involved when flashing a new ROM or anything.

tylerlawhon said:
But as stated before, the ideal way is to downgrade and s-off. No extra steps involved when flashing a new ROM or anything.
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+100,000,000,000
Sent from my Mikrunny'd Vivo_w

S-off and revolutionary is the way to go. Nat3mills on YouTube has some vids that walk you through the process. It is really not that bad.
Sent from my ADR6350 using xda premium

[Q] A simple question about T-Mobile G2

Hi,
This is a silly question, I want to install ADR HD ROM so I think I need the DZ HBOOT.
I saw this guide : http://www.virtuousrom.com/2011/06/t-mobile-g2-users-migrating-to-desirez.html
BUT, my stupid question is I am not a T-mobile user, my phone was Bell.. Doesn't matter?
And also, I read the steps and I have question in the step 10 and 11. It said execute adb reboot recovery, can I use the "adb" when I am on the HTC screen ? (I cant use when I am on bootloader, error: devide not found)
Thanks!

You can flash the T-mobile radio and see if it works, but do not be surprised if it does not. You always have the option to flash a new radio over the T-mobile one if it does not work. Alternatively, you can replace the radio.img file in the PC10IMG.zip you downloaded from the virtuous website. Be warned this will change the md5sum of the file, so in step 5 of the guide you will return a different result.
As for your problem with adb, you should use the recovery command when on the HTC screen. Were you able to get the phone to reboot into recovery in step 6?

Your experience sounds a little different than mine, but then again I didn't follow the instructions in the link exactly.
First I downloaded the PC10IMG.zip file to my sdcard, making sure it wasn't in another folder. Then I turned off my phone, then turned it back on, holding volume down + power until the bootloader opened. at that point it found the .zip, installed, and then proceeded to reboot and hang on the second reboot. At this point, I removed battery, took out microsd, put it into a microsd reader on a computer, you can delete it or rename it as i did, in case I want it later, named it "DZPC10IMG.zip" ejected the microsd, put it back in the g2, turned on. From there I forgot exactly what happened, I think it goes back to recovery perhaps, if not then turn off again, use volume + power to boot into bootloader, choose recovery, depending on the image i believe it installs CWM for you, from there I wiped everything again, then installed new ROM.
Personally, I've used that ROM and while it was awesome, I'm using Virtuous Affinity now cause I think it runs a little easier, and it's also Sense 3.5. It ran a lot better once I activated swap and supercharger. Let me know if you want help getting those going

Stockz said:
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BUT, my stupid question is I am not a T-mobile user, my phone was Bell.. Doesn't matter?
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If your phone was purchased directly from Canada Bell, its a Desire Z, not a T-Mobile G2. In that case, it already has the Desire Z HBoot, and you don't need to flash the DZ Hboot.
I've read some of your other posts. With all respect, it seems like you need to do more reading and research before modding your phone. You're asking some very basic questions about concepts that should already be understood BEFORE messing with ADB, flashing ROMs, and Hboot. Just take a breather for a few hours, and read up on all the guides, Wiki, etc. Otherwise, I have a feeling you are going to brick your phone very soon.
In particular, I think that messing with Hboot without knowing what you are doing (and don't even need to) is a very bad idea. Screwing it up can prevent you from getting into recovery, and may making recovering very difficult.

redpoint73 said:
If your phone was purchased directly from Canada Bell, its a Desire Z, not a T-Mobile G2. In that case, it already has the Desire Z HBoot, and you don't need to flash the DZ Hboot.
I've read some of your other posts. With all respect, it seems like you need to do more reading and research before modding your phone. You're asking some very basic questions about concepts that should already be understood BEFORE messing with ADB, flashing ROMs, and Hboot. Just take a breather for a few hours, and read up on all the guides, Wiki, etc. Otherwise, I have a feeling you are going to brick your phone very soon.
In particular, I think that messing with Hboot without knowing what you are doing (and don't even need to) is a very bad idea. Screwing it up can prevent you from getting into recovery, and may making recovering very difficult.
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Thanks for your answer,
I know that I have been asked very basic questions, because I am really new in Android (just buy this phone last wednesday) and some times I want to be sure that I understood from guides are fine (I am not english native).
I have been reading a lot, I spent the first two days reading every guide that I found.. but I know is not enough, I will keep reading.
Thanks you for your advice.
I have the HBOOT-0.84.2000
Radio-26.03-02.26_M
That should be work?

Stockz said:
Thanks for your answer,
I know that I have been asked very basic questions, because I am really new in Android (just buy this phone last wednesday) and some times I want to be sure that I understood from guides are fine (I am not english native).
I have been reading a lot, I spent the first two days reading every guide that I found.. but I know is not enough, I will keep reading.
Thanks you for your advice.
I have the HBOOT-0.84.2000
Radio-26.03-02.26_M
That should be work?
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Yes, that's the DZ Hboot.

Stockz said:
Thanks for your answer,
I know that I have been asked very basic questions, because I am really new in Android (just buy this phone last wednesday) and some times I want to be sure that I understood from guides are fine (I am not english native).
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Everything you can possibly think of is here, if you look hard enough. And asking questions if fine, if you can't find it or don't understand something.
The important thing is to completely understand what you are doing, before you do it. If you start doing stuff without understanding it, you can really get yourself into trouble.
I know it can be a steep learning curve, but stick with it. Be careful and good luck!

[Q] BEST Root Guide For G2

Okay,
All I want to know is the best way to perm root my HTC G2. I have google searched and went through forums on xda and a few other sites. And all it did was give me a headache. Lol If anyone can help me with this, Please get back to me via this post or pm me. Thanks for your time! >_<

The Wiki method. Here it is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
XDA User strawmetal had also done a detailed guide but I can't find it now.

The gfree/visionary method is another option that is pretty safe and easy, if you're still on 2.2. Not to be confused with the visionary perm root method.
The wiki method is the best way, but can be difficult if you don't know how to use adb. If you need to downgrade your phone, you'll have to learn adb anyway.

Please don't go anywhere near the Visionary tool. Use the method in the XDA Wiki. It might look confusing at first, but read it carefully and if you don't understand something then ask about it here, there are plenty of people who can help you.
There's a guide to setting up and using adb linked from my signature (if you are reading via a brower and not something like the XDA app).
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.

Use the wiki method. It looks confusing but once you get into it it is not hard at all. Just follow the instructions to the letter.
sent from my dz

Sweetness!
Thanks Guys! I will go with the wiki guide as I'm familiar with adb and I have 2.3.4, So do I downgrade?

Yes, you have to downgrade first.
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.

How long should phone take to reboot after final step in gaining S-OFF
Have a quick question. Followed Strawmetal's guide for my G2, for both downgrading and gaining perm root. Got to final step both MD5#2 and MD5#3 checksums matched as they should. All previous steps matched also. So the final step then is type reboot. I did so, phone rebooted, but now 5 minutes later it's still on the "htc" screen. Impatient noob or brick?

It's not a brick if it displays anything ;P

Mounta1n said:
Have a quick question. Followed Strawmetal's guide for my G2, for both downgrading and gaining perm root. Got to final step both MD5#2 and MD5#3 checksums matched as they should. All previous steps matched also. So the final step then is type reboot. I did so, phone rebooted, but now 5 minutes later it's still on the "htc" screen. Impatient noob or brick?
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Any update?
I actually think I may have even done a battery pull around then... but I'm not quite sure and would not suggest it.