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Jelly bean expected to be released in June.

http://www.androidcentral.com/andro...you-dont-say?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
Sure bet we won't be getting that with how long ics is taking. I'm looking forward to it though.
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By june, we still wont have ics. google's release cycle here is retarded. nexus s users just started getting ics today via ota updates.
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Lol we definitely won't see JB for awhile.

The article actually says that they don't believe that JB is launching in June, only that Digitimes believes that it will.
Furthermore, as the article states, they will probably just showcase some JB features at I/O but not actually launch it until Q4.

Rod3 said:
The article actually says that they don't believe that JB is launching in June, only that Digitimes believes that it will.
Furthermore, as the article states, they will probably just showcase some JB features at I/O but not actually launch it until Q4.
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U are probably right my dude. And wow the android names get cornier as time goes on but better.....go figure

JaZart said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/andro...you-dont-say?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
Sure bet we won't be getting that with how long ics is taking. I'm looking forward to it though.
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I highly doubt this. Google's own "flagship device" and ICS in general have kinks that need to be worked out. Besides, the middle of the year is a strange time unless Google already has a new Nexus being cooked up in-house with Motorola since Samsung ****ed us every way possible. Don't worry, they will do it to you guys too.
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im seriously thinking about getting a iphone because the updates are very slow and pitiful
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im seriously thinking about getting a iphone because the updates are very slow and pitiful
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Isn't that like regressing?
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im seriously thinking about getting a iphone because the updates are very slow and pitiful
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I wouldnt be surprised if it did get released June. Google is pretty dense they make a decent OS but they have no idea of how to really run a Mobile OS business that would make the most people happy.

Lol well being a psych major I find that when people are in a state of high emotional stress they sometimes regress to a primeval mental staye. Same could be said about choosing iPhone over Android.
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Isn't that like regressing?
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Lol well being a psych major I find that when people are in a state of high emotional stress they sometimes regress to a primeval mental staye. Same could be said about choosing iPhone over Android.
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I know I'm going to get flamed for this but for the average user that doesn't want to bother with ROMs and rooting then an iPhone is a better choice. It simply works and gets timely updates.

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I know I'm going to get flamed for this but for the average user that doesn't want to bother with ROMs and rooting then an iPhone is a better choice. It simply works and gets timely updates.
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And for the average person who wants that good 'ol feeling of freedom and be able to do what they want to their phones, they choose Android. Its fine either way.
Oh, and my phone 'simply works' since it came out of its box. I didn't have to root it because its required. I rooted because its fun. Why can't iPhone users understand that?
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I know I'm going to get flamed for this but for the average user that doesn't want to bother with ROMs and rooting then an iPhone is a better choice. It simply works and gets timely updates.
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Yeah but you are tied to iTunes and i personally couldn't stand to always have to sync with iTunes to add a song.And it is very locked up.One more thing for such a overpriced phone it should at least have multitasking.And for the average android user that you described Android will work perfectly too (even better) it will just cost less.
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If the iPhone has a bigger screen, I'm all over it.
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Didn't expect the iphone to be mentioned, but they do have timely and uniform updates. Unlike android which is still very much fragmented. This is why I still have an ios device.
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I agree. I wasnt trying to flame. People make choices that suit them. if updates as an inportabt factor and iPhone does that for you then thag is your thing. I love updates , while the are not essential, its not a driving factor for me to leave for iPhone.
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I know I'm going to get flamed for this but for the average user that doesn't want to bother with ROMs and rooting then an iPhone is a better choice. It simply works and gets timely updates.
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I agree. I wasnt trying to flame. People make choices that suit them. if updates as an inportabt factor and iPhone does that for you then thag is your thing. I love updates , while the are not essential, its not a driving factor for me to leave for iPhone.
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Enough! lol.
BTW, why are we talking about another version of Android, this is getting out of hand.

I was wondering how long it would take after I joined before people uttered the i-word
The reason that the iPhone is so successful is because out of the box it is snappy enough and easy to use. I'ts no longer required to have iTunes, you can do everything without a computer now with the iCloud thing.
Android has basically become bloated crap thanks to the carriers and manufacturers being able to shove all their **** onto their phones. Apple basically has the carriers by their balls with the iphone and put strict requirements for what they can and can't put on the iphone.
I think a rooted custom ROM android phone blows the iphone out of the water. but out of the box, T-Mobile's poorly made and useless apps+samsung and other manufacturer's laziness and inability to push updates and load their ridiculous and unneeded overlay software (touchwiz) is why android has been a complete failure in the face of the iphone among competent phone users. Someone who wants something to work or doesn't want to bother rooting doesn't want a sluggish, bloated POS with so many problems when they could just have an iphone that everyone has.
That all being said...CM & other custom made ROMs and Google's Nexus phones are worlds better than the iPhone. It just requires a little effort.
I squarely blame the carriers and manufacturers for the agonizingly slow release of ICS, and why unless Google gets it's act together and starts pushing its weight around with the manufacturers at least, nobody will ever release anything competitive with the iphone.
Here's hoping Microsoft and Nokia don't make the same mistakes...
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zander21510 said:
I was wondering how long it would take after I joined before people uttered the i-word
The reason that the iPhone is so successful is because out of the box it is snappy enough and easy to use. I'ts no longer required to have iTunes, you can do everything without a computer now with the iCloud thing.
Android has basically become bloated crap thanks to the carriers and manufacturers being able to shove all their **** onto their phones. Apple basically has the carriers by their balls with the iphone and put strict requirements for what they can and can't put on the iphone.
I think a rooted custom ROM android phone blows the iphone out of the water. but out of the box, T-Mobile's poorly made and useless apps+samsung and other manufacturer's laziness and inability to push updates and load their ridiculous and unneeded overlay software (touchwiz) is why android has been a complete failure in the face of the iphone among competent phone users. Someone who wants something to work or doesn't want to bother rooting doesn't want a sluggish, bloated POS with so many problems when they could just have an iphone that everyone has.
That all being said...CM & other custom made ROMs and Google's Nexus phones are worlds better than the iPhone. It just requires a little effort.
I squarely blame the carriers and manufacturers for the agonizingly slow release of ICS, and why unless Google gets it's act together and starts pushing its weight around with the manufacturers at least, nobody will ever release anything competitive with the iphone.
Here's hoping Microsoft and Nokia don't make the same mistakes...
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chib1panda said:
Lol well being a psych major I find that when people are in a state of high emotional stress they sometimes regress to a primeval mental staye. Same could be said about choosing iPhone over Android.
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HAHA LOL
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Jellybean scheduled to be rolled out in june for Developers

ARTICLE POSTED ON ROOTZWIKI
http://rootzwiki.com/_/articles/rumors/android-50-jellybean-rumored-to-debut-in-june-r415
I STILL DON'T HAVE AN ICS UPDATE.

Google really needs to get their crap together. ICS still out and one phone officially has it. Now this is coming and although it's not confirmed, this is still ridiculous. It would be nice to see tablets running the new upcoming OS but where do the phones play a role in this? I thought the OEMs where the reason for fragmentation but it is proving that Google is the kingpin behind all of this.
I love android but I like to be up to date and it's becoming harder and harder as Google gets more and more powerful. We shouldn't have to get a Nexus to be up to date. Fragmentation really needs to be fixed.

It will not be out for like a year.google has not even said it's going to be called jelly bean.
From a galaxy better than yours.

I posted this a few days ago.
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It will probable not even be for phones. It will be like honeycomb was.

Dude all carrier customizations should be done via the market and all android phones should be aosp as default
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Dude all carrier customizations should be done via the market and all android phones should be aosp as default
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Google doesnt think so
http://www.minyanville.com/dailyfeed/2012/01/11/minyanville-at-ces-google-puts/

any google rep check in here at xda? if there is one please read and take our compliant seriously. thank you

hmm i like jellybeans

Another reason to only get google phones. The GN will be updated right away, we will have to wait 6+ months.

If history holds true then we won't get it at all. Both the vibrant and the sgs4g only got one official update. If the galaxy s3 and 5.0 get released around the same time I would bet on Sammy not upgrading the s2. Its sad and disrespectful to their fan base but that's how it has been for the tmo galaxy line so far.
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If history holds true then we won't get it at all. Both the vibrant and the sgs4g only got one official update. If the galaxy s3 and 5.0 get released around the same time I would bet on Sammy not upgrading the s2. Its sad and disrespectful to their fan base but that's how it has been for the tmo galaxy line so far.
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Google just needs to get its act together with android updates.
You can bet your ass the next apple event will highlight how all their devices are updated while only a slim % of android phones run the latesr version.
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I don't think this will be for phones but who knows. Also Google hasn't t officially said this will be for mobile phones or clarified the name. I think the people who suffer the most are t mobile users who would love to have a GN but were cut short by Google and t mobile. If Google is going to spoon feed their number 1 device it should be on all carries under the sun. This was one of my concerns of getting a gs2, i love the phone i just wish Google and these carries would get there act together.
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jordanishere said:
Google just needs to get its act together with android updates.
You can bet your ass the next apple event will highlight how all their devices are updated while only a slim % of android phones run the latesr version.
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Well its really easy if your devices and product all run similar hardware. apple iphone and ipod touch all run similar hardware. Drivers are mostly the same with slight changes.
Unless google says only restricts to certain hardware like tegra 2 and tegra 3 for tablets. and what ever processor for phones this won't happen. Essentially google did their job once they released source. It now up to Htc, Samsung , lg, and moto do their job and make new drivers from source.
Also another reason is carriers. The samsung galaxy 2 is the same phone through out europe on different carriers. Htc could of did the same thing with the sensation and use a apq8060 so it could essentially be a a world phone. You could essentially switch out the modem and still use the same processor. This would make it easier for updates. But U.s carriers want to brand them. Put certain restrictions for them. Also add all their bloatware back in.
Google alliance thing was something google promised but in the end they can't make it happen. You can't make carriers update your device. If they dont think its important enough so they can make money off of it then they wont update it.
T-mobile is one of the worst when it comes updating devices. I been on all the other major carriers and i seen even them release even incremental updates for phones that I thought no one uses on other carriers. Tmobile will have their flagship device with bugs for at least 6 months till they decide to update it.

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Well its really easy if your devices and product all run similar hardware. apple iphone and ipod touch all run similar hardware. Drivers are mostly the same with slight changes.
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This is mostly the case. The reason it takes as long as it does is adding the Touchwiz and Sense to fit phones

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It will probable not even be for phones. It will be like honeycomb was.
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Huh? The whole point of ICS was to make Android a universal operating system between all phones/tablets.
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This is mostly the case. The reason it takes as long as it does is adding the Touchwiz and Sense to fit phones
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I con tolerate touchwiz more than i can tolerate sense and blur. Touchwiz looks closest to stock android. So maybe it will be lighter and lighter over time. The only thing i dont like about touch wiz is the actual launcher. The rest dont really bother me. Sense 4.0 and ics make me not ever want an htc device again. Blur is just disgusting and all it does is bog the phone down.

Im still waiting on Froyo, while still on Eclair. Geez, these updates are taking FOREVER!
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Huh? The whole point of ICS was to make Android a universal operating system between all phones/tablets.
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This was my point exactly. Google keeps saying one thing and doing another. ICS was supposed to make things uniform and I do remember the talk about slowing down all the theming or skins done by oem's. Doesn't look like anything is slowing down. Manufacturers dropping phones non stop and all the adopters of the product are left with no update. It seems as if as long as Google is getting the advertising money....all the companies can run a muck.
I have to admit the third portion of this is the cell providers just being greedy by not updating and forcing you to want to upgrade.
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Jjday7 said:
This was my point exactly. Google keeps saying one thing and doing another. ICS was supposed to make things uniform and I do remember the talk about slowing down all the theming or skins done by oem's. Doesn't look like anything is slowing down. Manufacturers dropping phones non stop and all the adopters of the product are left with no update. It seems as if as long as Google is getting the advertising money....all the companies can run a muck.
I have to admit the third portion of this is the cell providers just being greedy by not updating and forcing you to want to upgrade.
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Well Google has done a **** job recently with ICS. The Nexus S and Nexus S 4G are ahead of the Galaxy Nexus "the premier ICS phone" and I hate to say it but I'm just losing faith in Google. To add insult to injury, Google has so many builds of ICS that nobody knows who's getting what and when.
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Funny iphone 5 videos...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_zUEaJhn2A&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqoK8G2gH4Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player
You probably all seen this one...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXr1kmuqGcU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
and this...
http://youtu.be/qFUz6vHEQCM
A new one...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNBP18nrRdw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Laser keyboard and holographic video? Haha. I just have to laugh at these people all the time. The first dude said it was the coolest, most awesomest phone ever. I wonder why he thinks so when it only has a larger screen and LTE and a few minor upgrades. I wonder if Apple pays these people to line up and hype up the iPhone.
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Fox really messed up, saw this earlier on Apple blogs, anyways I also find it funny how much android users like to know about iPhone don't meant to offend anyone but it just funny lol
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Fox really messed up, saw this earlier on Apple blogs, anyways I also find it funny how much android users like to know about iPhone don't meant to offend anyone but it just funny lol
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Just to explain why some might be that way. Is basically cause we like all forms of technology including competing phones to Android, we research to see what we are up against. I for one think the iPhone is a great device, for people that want simple but works. I've read more about the iPhone then I've read about most new androids... I've also turned many of my friends who were huge on the iPhone to start using android. Overall most people don't dislike the iPhone just the maker...
My thoughts at least.
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Just to explain why some might be that way. Is basically cause we like all forms of technology including competing phones to Android, we research to see what we are up against. I for one think the iPhone is a great device, for people that want simple but works. I've read more about the iPhone then I've read about most new androids... I've also turned many of my friends who were huge on the iPhone to start using android. Overall most people don't dislike the iPhone just the maker...
My thoughts at least.
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Yeah I understand that, trust me I'll probably get one myself, I don't like to judge till I used one, but sometimes the focus on this websites is just hate... And is the same in other forums as well(**cough** mac rumors **cough**) but everything cool people that waits a week on line is ridiculous tho lol
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Yeah I understand that, trust me I'll probably get one myself, I don't like to judge till I used one, but sometimes the focus on this websites is just hate... And is the same in other forums as well(**cough** mac rumors **cough**) but everything cool people that waits a week on line is ridiculous tho lol
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I will never own an apple product dont get me wrong lol. I despise them asany people I know do, and there are the others that swear by them and will not leave no matter what, and they will buy the new one evem though they admit they're stupid to do so lol.
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I will never own an apple product dont get me wrong lol. I despise them asany people I know do, and there are the others that swear by them and will not leave no matter what, and they will buy the new one evem though they admit they're stupid to do so lol.
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Yeah and I understand I got some friends like that, I use two phones to work and I found it useless to Carry two android phones... So either the iPhone or the new lumina (which it actually looks really hot right now)
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Yeah and I understand I got some friends like that, I use two phones to work and I found it useless to Carry two android phones... So either the iPhone or the new lumina (which it actually looks really hot right now)
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Read about that one and it was appealing. And two phones give you a nice reason to splurge lol.
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mt3g said:
Overall most don't dislike the iPhone just the maker...
My thoughts at least.
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I agree... Sort of like... Most people have nothing against some children... Just their ignorant parents.

Lmao... He tea bags bill gates why making a dunk!!! Hahaha
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With its easy-to-use interface, amazing features, and rock-solid stability, iOS is the foundation of iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch. And even as others try to catch up, the technologies and features built into iOS keep your Apple devices years ahead.
This is on there ios 6 page I LOL'ED
http://www.youtube.com/user/samsungmobileusa?v=nf5-Prx19ZM lol

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Overall most don't dislike the iPhone just the maker...
My thoughts at least.
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Totally agree, it's their business practices that lost me as a fan back when they released the original iPhone. Still bought iPods until I got my Vibrant in 2010, then they all collected dust until I bought a Nano to use as a watch. But I'll never, ever own an iPhone. Android=freedom to customize and affords the opportunity to learn at least a little on how things work.
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With its easy-to-use interface, amazing features, and rock-solid stability, iOS is the foundation of iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch. And even as others try to catch up, the technologies and features built into iOS keep your Apple devices years ahead.
This is on there ios 6 page I LOL'ED
http://www.youtube.com/user/samsungmobileusa?v=nf5-Prx19ZM lol
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Hysterical!

Don't get me started on their business practices. The only Apple product I've ever owned was an iPod Video and even that was a gift. It's mind blowing with the iPods how they had all the technology to make the iPod Video the first generation iPod, but they purposefully stripped useful features away so they can slowly add the features back and sell it as a whole new device. The really unexpected part is stupid people still pay for it!
It's the same thing with the iPhone now. There's no reason why the iPhone 4S only had a 800 Mhz processor when everyone else was putting out 1.0 to 1.5Ghz processors. It's the same business tactic. Put out a substandard product now, release a later version with some of the stripped features, make idiots buy the same device twice.

You guys have to check out his article.
Wacky things heard in a carrier store!
I think this rep needs to work in the Apple store rather than at AT&T. Obviously he is clueless as to which phones was included in the lawsuit that Apple won as the Galaxy S3 wasn't included in that trial. Even though Apple is trying to in another case.
This is one reason why I hate ordering phones in store.

Is Apple getting desperate

So I'm flipping through the channels and come across Tim Cook on ABC. And they show the Samsung Galaxy S3 commercial that shows people waiting for the iPhone. He said apple loves competition, ya right. And now they are talking about getting into TVs. Seems to me that apple is now noticing what us Android owners already know. That they where the leader in the phone bussiness but now left behind.
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What?
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Hes essentially saying this "Android>iOS...why is apple copying ideas from samsung." (For example, the Samsung TV.)
No offense but this thread reallllly is a bit pointless.
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Did you REALLY use that meme incorrectly?
whyyy

all companies are going to branch out into markets that they are already connected to through competition. apple really hasn't ever invented anything, they've just been extremely good at marketing. it has nothing to do with which phone is better, because there is a user for every phone, it just depends on what you're looking for. i was talking to a girl today who has an iphone and she was like holy **** your phone looks awesome. i showed her all the cool **** i can do on it that she can't on hers, and well... she wasn't impressed at all. she didn't care about rooting, she didn't care about custom keyboards, themes, etc... all she cared about was how nice the screen was, that it was bigger, and that it multitasked better, which is something that apple needs to work on and they know it. so yeah... at least the iphone can copy and paste now!

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all companies are going to branch out into markets that they are already connected to through competition. apple really hasn't ever invented anything, they've just been extremely good at marketing. it has nothing to do with which phone is better, because there is a user for every phone, it just depends on what you're looking for. i was talking to a girl today who has an iphone and she was like holy **** your phone looks awesome. i showed her all the cool **** i can do on it that she can't on hers, and well... she wasn't impressed at all. she didn't care about rooting, she didn't care about custom keyboards, themes, etc... all she cared about was how nice the screen was, that it was bigger, and that it multitasked better, which is something that apple needs to work on and they know it. so yeah... at least the iphone can copy and paste now!
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Some people just don't understand the true power behind this device

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Did you REALLY use that meme incorrectly?
whyyy
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I like how 5 posts are all off-topic. lol!
But I agree with OP. Apple's finally realizing they've lost their superiority in the Smartphone world and trying to continue its dominance in the market industry by trying different markets.

cbass15 said:
Some people just don't understand the true power behind this device
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Gestures have taken over my life. I can never have a phone without gesture recognition as well implemented as this one.
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I have a friend who is a apple fanboy. He asked me to explain to him why Android is better than Apple. Spent an hour telling him what Android can do compared to apple. At the end, he's still stupid.

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Gestures have taken over my life. I can never have a phone without gesture recognition as well implemented as this one.
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I only use 1 finger gestures. Gets my point across fine
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Ya i saw the lil bit on abc i thought it was freaking funny as hell! "We love competition because it gives us new ideas to call our own" Is what he was really saying... Trying to say we will build one mac in the US... come on apple show us one thing you you actually invented and not just improved on.... LOL

I theorize that apple is just were they want to be. They have their little garden and their fruit too. People are and will be sucked in. I wantedbabtablet 2 years ago but got an itouch. This was very important because I had a phone at the time that had simmilar specs yet slower than molases ona flat table in alaska! People who adopted android early on went to apple because they were fed up with bugs, slowness and the fact they werent really good. Today, this just is NOT the case but people still distrust android even in its late stage. The apple garden offers all their "speed" at a price. You buy all apple and your stuck with it, Cause its so damn expensive! Comparing android to ios is pointless in the wprld of today because the gap has been filled in with cement. I stayed with android after playong in webos and ios. Android won because I saw the potential as the specs just got more and more ridiculus and the battery finally decent enough to have a phone thats useable. If you look back at apples history you can see steve jobs saved the company. So apple being worried is plausable yet highly implausible. Theyve sols too many things to come close to finacial woes. They need an apple tv because people wanted one. So once everyones convinced they arent gonna make one, we'll see one.
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Erm? Apple already has made TVs lol. And monitors for their computers. The only reason apple has so much more money and net worth is because they make 10 times the products android does.. Androids an operating system. Apple is a wide variety of electronics and software unfortunately..

I wish Apple and Android just battle it out old west style. Biggest gun (features) wins. Bringing the law into it seems tasteless. Just let the better device speak for itself.

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I have a friend who is a apple fanboy. He asked me to explain to him why Android is better than Apple. Spent an hour telling him what Android can do compared to apple. At the end, he's still stupid.
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This is pretty funny

http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/05/jelly-bean-update-blackberry-10-android-runtime/
Sounds like BB10 is going to get Jelly Bean while the majority of Android devices won't! LMAO!

Xiutehcuhtli said:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/05/jelly-bean-update-blackberry-10-android-runtime/
Sounds like BB10 is going to get Jelly Bean while the majority of Android devices won't! LMAO!
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I would actually get the BB10 looks cool.

That is funny. It won't be as funny when they get updated first.
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That is funny. It won't be as funny when they get updated first.
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LOL, I thought the same thing

Funny but just sad. LG seems to be following the path that everyone expected with the lgog. Can't produce updates in a timely manner at all. I know that they are releasing worldwide jb but I dont care about that. Lol. We will probably get jb when key lime pie is out. Ugh.
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If they already released JB in Korea, the it's more than likely the update is in our illustrious domestic carriers possession awaiting their approval.

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If they already released JB in Korea, the it's more than likely the update is in our illustrious domestic carriers possession awaiting their approval.
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I'm thinking that too but I feel like if it was it would got leaked by now
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Looks cool the only thing I can say is does anybody else remember thier blackberry touch screen experience? Uh cause i do starting with the wonderful Storm ( POS) all of the Torch family (POS) and even the new BOLD , they just have so many failed attempts it is unlikely this will be much different.
BUT and that is a BIG BUT this LGOG is something I wouldnt have never expected from LG , not since the original LG 510 has there been a more stable and good working phone.

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Looks cool the only thing I can say is does anybody else remember thier blackberry touch screen experience? Uh cause i do starting with the wonderful Storm ( POS) all of the Torch family (POS) and even the new BOLD , they just have so many failed attempts it is unlikely this will be much different.
BUT and that is a BIG BUT this LGOG is something I wouldnt have never expected from LG , not since the original LG 510 has there been a more stable and good working phone.
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Blackberry seems to be shooting to be just good enough with this phone. Dual core processor, 1 gb RAM and a smaller screen by today's standards seem like this is the device they are testing the waters with when really they should go for broke. Realistically this could be their last hurrah.
Personally I want to see them succeed. I dont think i will ever buy another blackberry, but a third strong OS would keep all systems innovating at a very high rate instead of encouraging stagnation.
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Hd2 was able to run ICS before most android devices at the time. The webos tablet and blackberry was also able to run android. Doesn't surprise me the bb10 will too. A smartphone these days no matter the stock OS can in some way run android. Even the iPhone could run android and has in the past
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Xiutehcuhtli said:
Blackberry seems to be shooting to be just good enough with this phone. Dual core processor, 1 gb RAM and a smaller screen by today's standards seem like this is the device they are testing the waters with when really they should go for broke. Realistically this could be their last hurrah.
Personally I want to see them succeed. I dont think i will ever buy another blackberry, but a third strong OS would keep all systems innovating at a very high rate instead of encouraging stagnation.
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Nicely put exactly what I was thinking.
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I certainly hope it isn't their last anything.
Look, you might think the hardware isn't all there. That isn't the big picture. Watch your mind explode. No iPhone, no Android as we know it, No widgets, no Windows 8, and to come full circle, no blackberry, no iPhone.
Android will die one day. Blackberry might die too. Analyst are already predicting the iPhone's doom. But, BB only gives us more. The ideas that blackberry comes up with will enhance the android phones. Competition brings innovation. I hope blackberry does great and brings timely updates too. Imagine if all the other os's updated like Apple. Don't think for a second blackberry didn't take note to our fragmentation. They have the same 2 phones worldwide for a reason.
And don't think for a second our brand loyalty its less fickle than it is. We will jump ship in drones. Blackberry might not be leading the pack now. But, now is very relative.
So, i agree with everyone.
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I certainly hope it isn't their last anything.
Look, you might think the hardware isn't all there. That isn't the big picture. Watch your mind explode. No iPhone, no Android as we know it, No widgets, no Windows 8, and to come full circle, no blackberry, no iPhone.
Android will die one day. Blackberry might die too. Analyst are already predicting the iPhone's doom. But, BB only gives us more. The ideas that blackberry comes up with will enhance the android phones. Competition brings innovation. I hope blackberry does great and brings timely updates too. Imagine if all the other os's updated like Apple. Don't think for a second blackberry didn't take note to our fragmentation. They have the same 2 phones worldwide for a reason.
And don't think for a second our brand loyalty its less fickle than it is. We will jump ship in drones. Blackberry might not be leading the pack now. But, now is very relative.
So, i agree with everyone.
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Blackberry is done besides bbm what can they really offer? Android apps?
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genaro12543 said:
Blackberry is done besides bbm what can they really offer? Android apps?
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The only level of encryption approved by pretty much every government worldwide for their secure communications. Blackberry will still have it's place in corporate and gov't settings for a while yet, but I don't see the mass appeal that they want and need to regain their once dominant position. They would have to do something more eye-popping than what they did.
On a somewhat different note, what are thoughts that some others have about upcoming platforms? Firefox OS, Tizen, Ubuntu, etc... I read that Samsung will be releasing Tizen phones in Q3.

Xiutehcuhtli said:
The only level of encryption approved by pretty much every government worldwide for their secure communications. Blackberry will still have it's place in corporate and gov't settings for a while yet, but I don't see the mass appeal that they want and need to regain their once dominant position. They would have to do something more eye-popping than what they did.
On a somewhat different note, what are thoughts that some others have about upcoming platforms? Firefox OS, Tizen, Ubuntu, etc... I read that Samsung will be releasing Tizen phones in Q3.
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Well see...I'm happy with the direction android is going in so far. if anything, since iOS doesn't seem to be encouraging innovation with that boring stagnant ui and features, I would like a good third player in the market whoever it may be to keep Google on its toes and android moving along. But blackberry? They had their chance years ago I'm over it and no people won't "flock" to another os people don't think that way
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I think more ppl would flock than you expect. If what they want is simple and their when the need it. I like android but it is confusing. People like comfort and usability.
Now, I don't think they will leave in droves. But, I don't think BlackBerry will disappear either.
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I think more ppl would flock than you expect. If what they want is simple and their when the need it. I like android but it is confusing. People like comfort and usability.
Now, I don't think they will leave in droves. But, I don't think BlackBerry will disappear either.
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I agree with that sentiment. For the average person, blackberry is a known name so they'll give it a shot. And if the OS is smooth and understandable, they won't have any trouble flocking to it. And businesses will buy in bulk.

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I think more ppl would flock than you expect. If what they want is simple and their when the need it. I like android but it is confusing. People like comfort and usability.
Now, I don't think they will leave in droves. But, I don't think BlackBerry will disappear either.
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You hit it right there that people prefer comfort thats why (since rim gave people PLENTY of time to get comfortable with android lol) I don't think they'll FLOCK but I agree there will be people willing to give it a shot and yeah it could actually catch momentum so all we can do is wait and watch haha I'm excited to see how the mobile landscape looks by the end of this year since it changes so rapidly
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I believe android will remain dominant for many years to come I see bb10 as more of a threat to wp8. BlackBerry has made it easy to port over android apps meaning they could easily out shine wp quickly when it comes to apps. I also believe people will defect from android also but not in droves android will remain dominant if only for the choices you can get their is a device out their that fits everyone's needs

Here is a question? Will we need to buy the app again? I assume so. Honestly, both phones are appealing.
There was a good article today about the demise of phones. It could be a great thing. If the losers leave and the leaders cut back we might see more stellar phones from less manufacturers. Lg won't make 30 different phones a year. So, the 5 they end up making might get faster updates.
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