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[Q] Best optimizations for 3D gaming

Right now I'm running FXP054 with the kernel OC'd to 1.4GHz. I also have cut down on a lot of running services in the background through the Autostarts app [ https://market.android.com/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts ].
What would be the best governor, I/O scheduler, & OC for the CM7.2.0 CDMA kernel?
What build.prop settings should I apply to get the most out of 3D gaming?
Any other options/settings/apps that I should be aware of for better gaming performance in general on my Xperia Play?
I'd greatly appreciate any insight. Thanks.

Download the Ram Manager pro app from the market. Use the default balance option when not gaming and use the hard gaming option when gaming.
I've tried all tweaks and zips and governors and everything possible. This application has made the biggest difference so far. Especially the lock home launcher option.

How much of a difference between that & the v6 Supercharged script in terms of performance?

CrimsonSentinel13 said:
How much of a difference between that & the v6 Supercharged script in terms of performance?
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Night and day. It's very difficult to give empirical evidence, so metaphors are about the best you'll get from me
V6 supercharger had zero to little effect overall. It did lock the launcher SOMETIMES, but other than that had very little effect on performance.
Ram manager pro is giving me a lot of performance and the different profiles are very clear and understandable. Unlike the vague and ambiguous settings on the supercharger.

I'll have to try that app out. How well does it do with Gameloft games? I tried Asphalt 6 last night & it ran well for a while until it decided to slow to a crawl on screen. I'm aiming to get a consistent gaming experience regardless of 2D or 3D.

3dawg said:
Download the Ram Manager pro app from the market. Use the default balance option when not gaming and use the hard gaming option when gaming.
I've tried all tweaks and zips and governors and everything possible. This application has made the biggest difference so far. Especially the lock home launcher option.
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That app actually doess nothing at all for the launcher.
Its the grouping shift without changing a single priority.
Its all about aggressive task killing without user input and that's it.
Use Update 9 RC4 as it has more options for high ram devices and makes recommendations based on ram.
Sounds like you used Update 8.

zeppelinrox said:
That app actually doess nothing at all for the launcher.
Its the grouping shift without changing a single priority.
Its all about aggressive task killing without user input and that's it.
Use Update 9 RC4 as it has more options for high ram devices and makes recommendations based on ram.
Sounds like you used Update 8.
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Thanks for the insight.

You're welcome
I really dislike it that people are being mislead into believing that it actually does something for the launcher.

zeppelinrox said:
You're welcome
I really dislike it that people are being mislead into believing that it actually does something for the launcher.
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I did indeed use update 8. I will give the latest a try.
You say it does nothing for the launcher but I'm seeing some fantastic results i.e the launcher literally never dies.
It had to redraw once after playing modern combat 3, and the whole phone slowed to a crawl unexpectedly for 10 seconds and then back to normal. Other than that the application has been great.
Using the script, the launcher died regardless of which setting I chose even when it said I had a "hard to kill" launcher or whatever. It would work for a while but redraws were too common. Also, all tutorials seemed based around motorola phones so I had difficulty finding what options would suit mine the best.
Regardless, I'm grateful for fantastic devs like you, and this script is undeniably innovative. Expect a donation at the end of the month
EDIT:
IGNORE EVERYTHING I SAID EARLIER, HOLY CRAP UPDATE 9 RC4 IS DAMN GOOD.
Seriously, I uninstalled Ram Manager pro, it's totally unnecessary.
Supercharger update 9 RC4 using option 6 has been flawless for me.

ah yes U9 is much improved.
If you can spare the ram, just bulletproof the sucker

zeppelinrox said:
ah yes U9 is much improved.
If you can spare the ram, just bulletproof the sucker
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What apps should be bullet-proofed? I'm using script for the purpose of getting better gaming performance.

I just uploaded an RC5 test so try that
I meant the launcher... so if you eve get any redraw, pick bulletproof launcher so it can't be killed but then again if you don't have enough ram to load big games then the default die hard launcher is good enough... it should still almost never happen.

zeppelinrox said:
I just uploaded an RC5 test so try that
I meant the launcher... so if you eve get any redraw, pick bulletproof launcher so it can't be killed but then again if you don't have enough ram to load big games then the default die hard launcher is good enough... it should still almost never happen.
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Where do you have the RC5 sh located at? I checked your beta page for it & don't see it.

Ah.. it's on the last page of the thread... I plan on having a newer one up soon so I uploaded it for a little bit of testing but it's really solid as is

zeppelinrox said:
Ah.. it's on the last page of the thread... I plan on having a newer one up soon so I uploaded it for a little bit of testing but it's really solid as is
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I started using RC5-test last night. It works really well. I noticed that it now has the Cust-OOM calc settings, which I'll apply tonight & see how it runs.
I really like how well done it is. I'll have to test out a few games this week.

Thamks
If you go to custOOMizer it will ask if you want to load the calculated values so that you only have to say yes or no lol

zeppelinrox said:
Thamks
If you go to custOOMizer it will ask if you want to load the calculated values so that you only have to say yes or no lol
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Even easier, I was thinking I would have to record the values & make sure I got it right.

Hi Zeppelin!
I would to test now Update 9 RC5. What ins the best Option for Play. On Update 8 i use Option 6 or 9 (MegaRam 2) but 6 feels smoother in the Launcher & UI.
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Test the calculated values as they are based on your actual ram.
I added that feature for device that fell between the HP group settings.
I tried to calculate balanced values but course you can tweak them to be more or less aggressive by playing with the slot 3 value as that has the biggest effect on typical free ram.
The other great addition is the auto calculated min_free_kbytes value so that you won't ever get too low on free ram while allowing for apps to be cached for speed.

Thanks for answer. I now use Option 10 Custom Settings on U9 RC5. Launcher is Die Hard.
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If you Update the Supercharger to final U9 must i Run this or is RC5 okay?
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Sense is RAM-hungry like a wolf!

guys, just to show you how hungry is Sense in RAM usage
i stopped all apps and still ~700 MB of RAM still used? wth
anyways, the phone is still snappy and very smooth even with many apps running, i was just surprised how hungry like a wolf Sense is
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Do you think you could post a video of yourself playing with the browser? I have one preordered and would like to see how it performs as that is one of the only reasons why I am upgrading from my Nexus One.

RAM is there to be used. As long as you don't experience any out of memory issues and RAM gets freed up when it's needed, any less usage would be a complete waste of memory.

I never found the task manager useful when I had my old Sensation.
The task manager cannot tell the amount of RAM used by active processes (apps) and those been cached. I'd bet half of the RAM are used by cached app, which Android will empty in reverse order if it need more RAM, best go to running process in App section of settings to find out the REAL RAM usage.
P.S. I think there is a setting in the Dev section where you can have a pop up message when RAM is low (80mb).

PsiAdster said:
Do you think you could post a video of yourself playing with the browser? I have one preordered and would like to see how it performs as that is one of the only reasons why I am upgrading from my Nexus One.
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don't worry all apps including browser are insanely smooth, been burning-in my phone, i drained it in 4 hours after a full charge, with continuous trying of games, browser on wifi and 3G, watching movies, chatting and etc.
and like what others said, "unused RAM is a wasted RAM"
never felt or saw any lag so far
my sony Arc is now begging for some attention, i think i cannot go back to any low-specced device after experiencing this BEASTLY one X!

Eggcake said:
RAM is there to be used. As long as you don't experience any out of memory issues and RAM gets freed up when it's needed, any less usage would be a complete waste of memory.
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^What he said^
For what do you need more than 300 MB RAM?
Just to clear you up, it doesn't matter if the RAM is used or not, it does not affect on the battery life.

Rycon33 said:
don't worry all apps including browser are insanely smooth, been burning-in my phone, i drained it in 4 hours after a full charge, with continuous trying of games, browser on wifi and 3G, watching movies, chatting and etc.
and like what others said, "unused RAM is a wasted RAM"
never felt or saw any lag so far
my sony Arc is now begging for some attention, i think i cannot go back to any low-specced device after experiencing this BEASTLY one X!
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Appreciate it, still would like to see a video, though.

How about you use a real task killer instead of a no good built in bloat? Download advanced task killer from play store and see where it takes you.
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djolebih said:
How about you use a real task killer instead of a no good built in bloat? Download advanced task killer from play store and see where it takes you.
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You do know task killers drain more your battery right?

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You do know task killers drain more your battery right?
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And also kill services that are needed by android os sometimes from what I remember.
Just don't use them folks. Like already suggested, use the developer options to set a limit to the amount of background processes that can run if free ram concerns you so much

hehe, i remember thinking the same thing as you OP. Then i pressed the refresh button and it jumped to 420mb free. But yeh, i do agree that Sense 4 isn't exactly light. But hey, its not as bad as previous versions.

Cant some of the sense features be turned off?

I got 430 mb free ram after killing all apps from sense task manger, this on a stock device without any app installed on.

b-george said:
I got 430 mb free ram after killing all apps from sense task manger, this on a stock device without any app installed on.
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I got 397 running on my DHD and 484 last time I checked on my One X....

This doesn't sound good. I do all my phone web browsing in "desktop" mode as mobile versions of sites often are ****. I use opera mobile and easily use up 120-140 mb ram with "only" 4 tabs. Fortunately opera has the possibility to enable an exit button that clears everything before exiting, but if I don't want to lose a tab yet I have to close the other tabs so the phone don't get sluggish. I have an LG optimus black with 512 mb ram but I'm soon getting the one X.

I don't understand how this works tbh.
I fail to see how Sense 4 takes more ram than Sense 3.6 considering it's "meant" to be more slimline.
Is this just the nature of all Android devices perhaps being portrayed wrong by the task killer?

When I kill everything from task manager I got this. Sometimes I got +500mb free ram.

Has anybody with a one X had Sense restarts? This was my biggest issue with the Sensation where after doing memory heavy tasks like web browsing a ton when you went to the home screen it would have to reload Sense since Android dumped it from memory to create space for apps. I really hate this and its been a problem on HTC phones for a while.
Fyi. 256MB or so of your memory is allocated for graphics so you're starting off with 744MB and so 200-300MB of that is used by the kernel and running services. Having 300MB-400MB free is perfectly normal. My Nexus has 350MB free on average and there's no Sense.
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mobilehavoc said:
Has anybody with a one X had Sense restarts? This was my biggest issue with the Sensation where after doing memory heavy tasks like web browsing a ton when you went to the home screen it would have to reload Sense since Android dumped it from memory to create space for apps. I really hate this and its been a problem on HTC phones for a while.
Fyi. 256MB or so of your memory is allocated for graphics so you're starting off with 744MB and so 200-300MB of that is used by the kernel and running services. Having 300MB-400MB free is perfectly normal. My Nexus has 350MB free on average and there's no Sense.
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I haven't encountered any homescreen redraw on my normal usage.
Except when I tried(for fun) opening 5 or 6 videos at the same time(using stick it player), and surely the homescreen redrew, hehe expected because of little RAM left for Sense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt1pnyYJP7E

If i check the ICS task manager and kill everything.
First thing that starts up is Flickr (8mb).
I never use Flickr, don't have an account.
I don't need to know more, that's just wrong.

[Q] Galaxy W RAM Management

I want to ask you guys how did you solve problems with ram on our phone, because it's the only thing i found bad. I'm using V6 supercharger on a stock rom for a while now and it is a slight improvement in smoothness but games sometimes lag. On custom roms ram management is much better but they're mostly lighter than touchwiz which is eating RAM. Is there any better solution for stock roms or that's all we got?

Nalge said:
Is there any better solution for stock roms or that's all we got?
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Not so sure, but i'm afraid so...

maybe you can try using zeam launcher on stock rom. install newest link2sd to freeze unwanted program.
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On CM9, you can enable KSM (Kernel Samepage Merging), which gives you about 15-20 MB additional usable RAM, through deduplicating memory pages.
Until Alpha 5, there were 364 MB RAM available on CM, with Alpha 6 it now decreases to 352 due to buffer/shared memory requierements from 720p recording.

OP asks about Stock ROM.....
CM9 def not Stock!!
IMHO, V6 works well on Stock GB...that's what I have, and it flies, of course along with KAK and 3G Turbocharger also from Zepp...
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irishpancake said:
OP asks about Stock ROM.....
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Right..
Although, there might be a little chance, that KSM is included in the stock kernel, one could try it by executing
echo 1 > /sys/kernel/mm/ksm/run
There are some scripts, like the Supercharger, that modifiy minfree values and OOM groupings.
You can try those, but from what i have seen of it, you jump out of the frying pan into the fire in many use cases, so i wouldn't agree to the hype around them.
However, if you got the time for some experimenting, you can give it a try.
Generally:
- Have a clean base installation (no modifications left from various "tuning runs")
- Install only the apps you really nead, with special regard to resource-intensive background apps such as Facebook, Widgets etc.
- Look out for the enhancements available in your ROM, like KSM, zRam, (normal) swapping etc.
- Don't use automatic task killers
- You might also experiment with LMK values (e.g. through the scipts mentioned) etc., althouth be aware what your focus is: multitasking, games, no launcher redraws. Many settings here are trade-offs.

There's another easy way is to install ROM toolbox from playstore. Go to performance page and use the auto memory manager. Remember this is only for rooted stock,and need to install in the internal memory not SD card. After choose the option that you want, do check apply on boot. It will work like v6 script also.
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Nalge said:
I want to ask you guys how did you solve problems with ram on our phone, because it's the only thing i found bad. I'm using V6 supercharger on a stock rom for a while now and it is a slight improvement in smoothness but games sometimes lag. On custom roms ram management is much better but they're mostly lighter than touchwiz which is eating RAM. Is there any better solution for stock roms or that's all we got?
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Ram Manager Pro (Play Store) is a paid app that will give some options of RAM management such as hard gaming or more free memory or multi-tasking etc etc....easy to use and requires root access...recommended app...use different options at different times of need...
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Shehram Ahmad said:
Ram Manager Pro (Play Store) is a paid app that will give some options of RAM management such as hard gaming or more free memory or multi-tasking etc etc....easy to use and requires root access...recommended app...use different options at different times of need...
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This is a good apps to define how u gonna use the system. For RAM management , please make sure u know what to run at the critical part and whats not. The best practice is to maintain usage of a few apps that will be stalled as running apps. Clear ur rams once its getting slow or when it reach 300 for instance.

Ram Manager Pro???
Well, I don't know, but people should check out Zeppelinrox V6 SuperCharger
BTW, here is what Zepp thinks of Ram Manager Pro:
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Nuff said !!!

irishpancake said:
Ram Manager Pro???
Well, I don't know, but people should check out Zeppelinrox V6 SuperCharger
BTW, here is what Zepp thinks of Ram Manager Pro:
Nuff said !!!
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Yes....agree with that.
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irishpancake said:
Ram Manager Pro???
Well, I don't know, but people should check out Zeppelinrox V6 SuperCharger
BTW, here is what Zepp thinks of Ram Manager Pro:
Nuff said !!!
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Thanks for the information...but Twlauncher which restarted a lot...now doesnt while using Ram Manager Pro...after cleaning memory....anyway thanks...
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Like I said, it uses a modification of my OOM grouping fix.
The priority of the launcher doesn't change it only moves the launcher down a slot.
You'd get the same effect with lower minfrees.
Nice to know you like getting screwed.

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Many settings here are trade-offs.
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And the sky is blue.
Do yourself a favour and shut up about supercharger unless you've tried it.
Until then, you're not qualified and simply talking out of your ass.

zeppelinrox said:
And the sky is blue.
Do yourself a favour and shut up about supercharger unless you've tried it.
Until then, you're not qualified and simply talking out of your ass.
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I was using Ram Mgr Pro in the beginning as it was easy to use and i was not familiar with v6.
But after trying out v6 i think Ram Mgr can never come close to V6 .Amazing job zeppelinrox .:good:

Problem with screen wake

Hello guys!!first i admire your work here with all these roms but i want to ask something cause it's really strange..i'm now using smooth jb v2 and previously cm10 by arco..with both roms i've got the same prob..after some screen locks and sleeps when trying wake the screen and unlock it sometimes the screen doesn't wake and have to pull the battery off and even others my phone reboots..what could cause this??cause it's the only bug i have..
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do u wipe data and cache before flash roms?

ipromeh said:
do u wipe data and cache before flash roms?
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I do every time all needed wipes but it keeps happening..thanks anyway..!!
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Try going pristine.
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johnaras said:
Hello guys!!first i admire your work here with all these roms but i want to ask something cause it's really strange..i'm now using smooth jb v2 and previously cm10 by arco..with both roms i've got the same prob..after some screen locks and sleeps when trying wake the screen and unlock it sometimes the screen doesn't wake and have to pull the battery off and even others my phone reboots..what could cause this??cause it's the only bug i have..
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Do you flash custom kernel? Sometimes, the cause of it is undervolting. Try to flash non-UV kernels.
Go with pristine if you flash custom kernels prior to newly flash rom. Maybe a residue in the previous rom.

i didn't do pristine the last time ive reflashed my rom,,,,
and screen wake lock happens from time to time,,
but ive somehow managed to solve that,, accidentally,,
just dont know if it will work for you,,
here's what ive did,,,
1. seeders _-- the latest one,,
2. wonderTweaksV5_overwrite;;;; this one says he modded the ondemand and clocked his phone to 1Ghz only,, so i copied him,,,
3. Disable CPU rendering,,,
4, check 16 bit transparency in Settings/ performance..
5. check KERNEL SAMEPAGE merging in Settings/ performance/ Memory management.
6. check FORCE GPU RENDERING in settings/ developers options. as well as the Kill APP BAck Button,,,
7. install Speed boost,(can be found in a*p*k*m*a*n*i*a dotcom), and let it clean my system,, and run in background,,,
8. reboot to recovery once a day just to
wipe cache as well as FIx permission... never bother to do wipe dalvik cache,, as booting takes time in my phone as well as i have link2sd in my phone..
I'm not saying its the fix,,, but just telling everyone,, that this is what ive done to my phone,, even without going pristine,,,,my phone is such a wonder

johnaras said:
Hello guys!!first i admire your work here with all these roms but i want to ask something cause it's really strange..i'm now using smooth jb v2 and previously cm10 by arco..with both roms i've got the same prob..after some screen locks and sleeps when trying wake the screen and unlock it sometimes the screen doesn't wake and have to pull the battery off and even others my phone reboots..what could cause this??cause it's the only bug i have..
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yes... i am not the only guy that have this problem.. its realy anoying...

try the post ive suggested,,
might work with yours too,,,
as ive noticed ,,when the screen turns black,,,
ive tried calling my phone,,, then it suddenly lights for a bit,, and there's an error message saying,,
the system is not responding .. close the app,,,
wait ,,, yes,,

santiagoruel13 said:
try the post ive suggested,,
might work with yours too,,,
as ive noticed ,,when the screen turns black,,,
ive tried calling my phone,,, then it suddenly lights for a bit,, and there's an error message saying,,
the system is not responding .. close the app,,,
wait ,,, yes,,
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This problem is a sleep to death while trying to deep sleep. Try raising your min clock speed to 200+ . this problem happens when the phone's clock speed is too low for too long that it couldn't wake up anymore.
santiagoruel13 said:
i didn't do pristine the last time ive reflashed my rom,,,,
and screen wake lock happens from time to time,,
but ive somehow managed to solve that,, accidentally,,
just dont know if it will work for you,,
here's what ive did,,,
1. seeders _-- the latest one,,
2. wonderTweaksV5_overwrite;;;; this one says he modded the ondemand and clocked his phone to 1Ghz only,, so i copied him,,,
3. Disable CPU rendering,,,
4, check 16 bit transparency in Settings/ performance..
5. check KERNEL SAMEPAGE merging in Settings/ performance/ Memory management.
6. check FORCE GPU RENDERING in settings/ developers options. as well as the Kill APP BAck Button,,,
7. install Speed boost,(can be found in a*p*k*m*a*n*i*a dotcom), and let it clean my system,, and run in background,,,
8. reboot to recovery once a day just to
wipe cache as well as FIx permission... never bother to do wipe dalvik cache,, as booting takes time in my phone as well as i have link2sd in my phone..
I'm not saying its the fix,,, but just telling everyone,, that this is what ive done to my phone,, even without going pristine,,,,my phone is such a wonder
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I have a few advises for you ;D
1- Turn off "force GPU rendering" some apps get slowed down when it's on
2- try "auto memory manager" from the play store and set m change the min-free values
My settings are these
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They are pretty extreme If you ask me but great for gaming and gives you some free multi tasking when needed.
With my settings you will never get a full ram this would kill every thing to give you the ram to use lol
3- apps that run in the background take ram (not much but they still do) replace Facebook with friend caster for Facebook as out takes less ram and looks cooler
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Sorry the pic was actually my old settings (sorry) this pic is just a slight less extreme but does the same job
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thanks for the info ..
but as ive said in my last 2 posts,, after doing those steps,,, my screen_turned_black issue had never bothered me again,,
and i've got no problems as of today,,,
though,, ive got one question w/c still bugs me up to now,,
why is it that an android os lags when using link2sd particularly when linkinvg 20 or more apps to the 2nd partition,, both on my galaxy wonder as well as xperia x8..
even when setting my phone to performance governor,,
and when the phone lags,, it started to have a screen_turned_black issue again,,
so my only alternative is that i have to press the screen so that it wont turn the screen off,, coz when it does,,, ive got no other way but to remove its battery:crying:

santiagoruel13 said:
thanks for the info ..
but as ive said in my last 2 posts,, after doing those steps,,, my screen_turned_black issue had never bothered me again,,
and i've got no problems as of today,,,
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Yeah I know, I only said that to give you more information about the problem
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though,, ive got one question w/c still bugs me up to now,,
why is it that an android os lags when using link2sd particularly when linkinvg 20 or more apps to the 2nd partition,, both on my galaxy wonder as well as xperia x8..
even when setting my phone to performance governor,,
and when the phone lags,, it started to have a screen_turned_black issue again,,
so my only alternative is that i have to press the screen so that it wont turn the screen off,, coz when it does,,, ive got no other way but to remove its battery
NOTE:
ive been doing the linking to the 2nd partiton,, after a clean install,,,, meanig no back ups from TBU....

[Q] [JB] Low Free Ram

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This is what I'm getting now and IDK WHY. I have tried zram on any percentage, it doesn't help.
This is weird because I used to get like 160 or 140 free always, and now this.
On my signature is my whole system, I rebooted the phone on the morning and now 12 hours later, I have that ram. Not a lot of usage, music, whatsapp, few sms and general browsing on 2G and wifi.. :x

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.omichsoft.taskmanager
Inviato da me!

I don't want a task manager, I want to know why once my phone had a behaviour of perfect free ram at some acceptable range and now it's like this and going like on 50mb too..

It is normal because Jelly Bean caches up to 10 apps instead of 5 apps in ICS.

kingkingyyk said:
It is normal because Jelly Bean caches up to 10 apps instead of 5 apps in ICS.
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so it's normal to have ~70 ~50 mb of ram free? o-o I mean, it's hard to believe due to what I have said 3 times in a row, weeks ago my average was always up to 140, sometimes reaching 200.

Reboot ur phone once in a day
And to a fact, free ram doesnt matter at all. Are you facing lags when u have 50-60 mb free ram? Free ram is wasted ram in some context
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koradiavatsal said:
Reboot ur phone once in a day
And to a fact, free ram doesnt matter at all. Are you facing lags when u have 50-60 mb free ram? Free ram is wasted ram in some context
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I reboot my phone daily, read OP.
Yeah I have read that before somewhere.. actually no I don't experience lags but I'm worried about battery life and wakelock and that kind of stuff.

Phenomzye said:
I reboot my phone daily, read OP.
Yeah I have read that before somewhere.. actually no I don't experience lags but I'm worried about battery life and wakelock and that kind of stuff.
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Wakelock and battery life related to free ram???
I dont know how. Use better battery stats for all info on wakelocks and properly evaluated battery life
Nd use gb if you want "free ram"
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koradiavatsal said:
Wakelock and battery life related to free ram???
I dont know how. Use better battery stats for all info on wakelocks and properly evaluated battery life
Nd use gb if you want "free ram"
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Unusual lack of RAM = Things that SHOULDN'T be running are running somehow, therefore, more battery usage, more battery drain.
That's what logic tells me, otherwise, if wrong, correct~
My battery life is actually.. normal.. good.. o3o!

Phenomzye said:
Unusual lack of RAM = Things that SHOULDN'T be running are running somehow, therefore, more battery usage, more battery drain.
That's what logic tells me, otherwise, if wrong, correct~
My battery life is actually.. normal.. good.. o3o!
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Your logic is right bt this can even happen due to lots of apps installed and almost all app eats little ram so low on ram
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You can try using greenify. Works fine for me.
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Phenomzye said:
Unusual lack of RAM = Things that SHOULDN'T be running are running somehow, therefore, more battery usage, more battery drain.
That's what logic tells me, otherwise, if wrong, correct~
My battery life is actually.. normal.. good.. o3o!
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That's why i suggest you this task manager...
I know there are many point of view about it(free ram is wasted ram,linux is different from Windows..blablabla..)but is a fact that after i use this TM(enabling root access too)my phone runs smoother and faster...(250 mb free ram on ICS)

arcatarc said:
That's why i suggest you this task manager...
I know there are many point of view about it(free ram is wasted ram,linux is different from Windows..blablabla..)but is a fact that after i use this TM(enabling root access too)my phone runs smoother and faster...(250 mb free ram on ICS)
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Those kind of task manager apps are useless as most apps have background processes that can only be terminated with root access. Without root privilege to close them, they will just restart in the background and take up RAM space. Greenify will prevent that by closing the background processes and keeping them hibernate. Those apps also take up space on your phone and use up battery.
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popthosegaskets said:
Those kind of task manager apps are useless as most apps have background processes that can only be terminated with root access. Without root privilege to close them, they will just restart in the background and take up RAM space. Greenify will prevent that by closing the background processes and keeping them hibernate. Those apps also take up space on your phone and use up battery.
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This task manager HAVE root access options...

arcatarc said:
This task manager HAVE root access options...
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I would use greenify instead, one push to hibernate and close running apps.
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Heres mine.
Try to disable zram.
Boot cwm and clear cache and dalvk.
Ps. Got any scrips or mods running?
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Heres mine.
Try to disable zram.
Boot cwm and clear cache and dalvk.
Ps. Got any scrips or mods running?
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The OP screenshot was without zram, I have tried everything with zram. No mods or scripts running, it's a clean install though, shouldn't need another cache wipe. Right now it fluctuates between 80, 90 and 115 mb free, so I think it's normal or close to normal now. Got my questions answered too, thanks everyone.
And yeah, I have tried greenify but once, using it, I got 17mb of free ram xD and never tried it again.

Phenomzye said:
The OP screenshot was without zram, I have tried everything with zram. No mods or scripts running, it's a clean install though, shouldn't need another cache wipe. Right now it fluctuates between 80, 90 and 115 mb free, so I think it's normal or close to normal now. Got my questions answered too, thanks everyone.
And yeah, I have tried greenify but once, using it, I got 17mb of free ram xD and never tried it again.
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Install Swapper and Seeder. I'm currently on MIUI which usually takes a lot more ram than any other rom. But with those two apps in combo my phone is breathing again!
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