I gave my Evo 4G to a friend and i've flashed a couple different sense roms for him to try out. Would going to a rom like a CM7(.1) give him a noticeable performance increase for games like GTA III or other 3D rendered games, and possibly better HDMI Mirroring performance?
I thought GTAIII would run like a champ on the EVO4G, but its not. Phones currently running the Swagged out Stock. But it is pretty choppy, so is counter strike.
Normally I would just flash the roms myself and see, but since it's not my phone I dont have that type of access to it.
Any input is appreciated.
Salvage mod (rom) g0dm0de kernel and chainfire3d is the best combo for graphics intensive games if its not going to be used as a phone stripping the messaging app and other items such as calculator and stuff like that will increase the available ram to improve performance
Edit: overclocking to 1.19ghz will help as well, the problem with games like gta3 is the available ram when the phone is booted is only around 200 MB or so on an AOSP ROM and less than 200 MB on a sense rom and that's really not enough ram to render the graphics with the gpu in the evo
Great suggestions. Bummer to hear that GTA III probably doesn't have a good chance of running smooth on the Evo. Definitely was going to over clock. I know that helped me on the PSX emulator.
Im going to look into salvage mod. Sense roms seem to be less reliable. and I believe HDMI mirroring would work smoother too.
Thanks for the feedback, really great to hear someone speaking from experience.
Salvage mod is one of the lightest ROMs around its not real fancy but removing alot of nonessential apps from it will free up more ram making the game smoother chainfire3d will accelerate the graphics as well helping to improve performance
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does anyone lag when playing games on the gnex? it is very choppy when playing 3d games like running fred or dungeon defenders.
im currently on stock, unrooted and am wondering if installing custom roms will improve the frame rates?
I have aokp m4 installed with Franco's latest r98 kernel and I have no lag in any game... and I play the same ones u listed plus shadow run modern combat 3 and back stab
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Modern combat 3 is very smooth, but the multitouch bug kills the gameplay
Can't speak for stock, I was only stock for 20 minutes. But I haven't experienced any lag in any games on the ROMs I've run. Games include: Shadow Gun, Flick Golf, and Asphalt 6 HD.
mudferret said:
Can't speak for stock, I was only stock for 20 minutes. But I haven't experienced any lag in any games on the ROMs I've run. Games include: Shadow Gun, Flick Golf, and Asphalt 6 HD.
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can u try running fred and dungeon defenders?
they are my favourite games but the lag is quite frequent on both games, especially dungeon defenders...
I tried Running Fred and it indeed shutters 2 or 3 times per seconds. What is strange it that it seems to do it for several frames.
I'd guess the game has a bad rendering pipeline.
Just tried Running Fred, no lag. CM9 currently with stock CM9 kernel, GSM phone.
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thanks..i guess i have to root and install aokp + franco kernel. any ideas what is the best and easiest way to root the phone (im currently looking at the GNex Toolkit)?
salivaman said:
thanks..i guess i have to root and install aokp + franco kernel. any ideas what is the best and easiest way to root the phone (im currently looking at the GNex Toolkit)?
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If you're not familiar with fast boot and/or adb, that's the safest bet. I'd encourage you to at least review the fast boot method however.
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I'm running cm9 with glados kernel, default settings. No lag for fred, and the only lag in dungeon defenders is when they spawn the new waves.
sent from my Zerg Hatchery.
I play Dead Space on Android and it is as smooth as you could ever imagine. But there is occasionally a few lag and buggy, but it doesn't bother me much. Also, multitouch is a breeze on that game too. It's rooted, stock ROM
kind of sucks that you have to root and flash a rom in order to play certain games lag free
I'm rooted but on stock...i'll give the games a try and let you know from my end. It's a better comparison since I'm on stock too.
The other posters who have custom kernels and roms are obviously going to have different results.
I'm on stock too and no lag at all for Super Monkey Ball Sakura and The Sims FreePlay.
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I'm on stock too and no lag at all for Super Monkey Ball Sakura and The Sims FreePlay.
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hes asking about fred and dungeon defenders though
lazaro17 said:
hes asking about fred and dungeon defenders though
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Aw, I thought he's asking about gaming in general on GNex.
It's probably a better idea to email the app developers than asking here.
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Aw, I thought he's asking about gaming in general on GNex.
It's probably a better idea to email the app developers than asking here.
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Ya that's what I was thinking too....could just be they aren't optimized for ICS yet.
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kind of sucks that you have to root and flash a rom in order to play certain games lag free
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who knows if you have to; there's obviously a selection bias here in that most of us already have custom roms/kernels installed.
Awaiting your stock results.
sent from my Zerg Hatchery.
salivaman said:
does anyone lag when playing games on the gnex? it is very choppy when playing 3d games like running fred or dungeon defenders.
im currently on stock, unrooted and am wondering if installing custom roms will improve the frame rates?
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Just tried out running fred...definitely not "very choppy" for me. I am getting slight stutters usually when one of those "checkpoint reach" pop ups come the framerate will stutter a bit and the sound will as well. Nothing seriously bad, I've run into certain parts of Shadowgun that will have similar behavoir.
Not 100% but doesn't make the game unplayable for me. I'd suggest check to see if you have any background processes that are slowing things down for you. Maybe a bad app somewhere is ruining your 3d gaming experience. Also, game might not be fully optimized for us yet so might be a good idea to get in touch with the developer and let him know.
I won't be able to check dungeon defenders second wave today because my internet and 3g coverage is spotty right now at my hotel. And the extra content will take forever to download.
Hope this post helps a bit.
Ok so after about a month of running unrooted stock I have just installed aokp + Franco kernel and this seems to have a positive impact on the gaming performance. Running Fred runs quite a lot smoother now. But I haven't tried dungeon defenders yet. Will probably post results again when I have the time, but still its enlightening to know and let the community know that the custom roms and kernels not only benefits in synthetic benchmarks like quadrant but also in real-world application performance.
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Ok so after about a month of running unrooted stock I have just installed aokp + Franco kernel and this seems to have a positive impact on the gaming performance. Running Fred runs quite a lot smoother now. But I haven't tried dungeon defenders yet. Will probably post results again when I have the time, but still its enlightening to know and let the community know that the custom roms and kernels not only benefits in synthetic benchmarks like quadrant but also in real-world application performance.
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Out of curiosity, which governor are you using? Settings -> ROM Control -> Performance
I recently went back to sense after having been on Absolution for a while now. Absolution was great and all games including temple run played flawlessly. Now with the new ROM ( latest Coredroid V9.4) im starting to notice lag even after OC to 1.3 GHz. Benchmark tests are horrible compared to Absolution. Highest Nenamark 2 is 10 compared to 15 regularly on absolution. Highest quadrant is 19000 something compared to regular 2300 on absolution. Is this the regular sense ROMs performance or can I get a bit more by tweaking more or changing ROMs/ Kernels?
ive tried many kernels btw ... ended up with LorDmod NCT- 4.0 BFS
Try changing the CPU governor to interactive.
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ive tried lagfree, smartass, on demand, and interactive ... they all seem to give almost the same result :S So I take it Temple Run should run smoothly even on sense?
I guess it should... Change the ROM...
I have notice that when i have gone back to a sence rom it always seems slower!
Change your rom to CyanogenMod 7.1. That is the smoothest rom while I'm playing
imho, the only sense upperhand vs other launchers and the scrolling/flipping and animation speed. Pretty much undeniable that Sense scrolls really fast and animates/trans really fast. However, if you would take a look at the amount of memory SENSE is using... I can't say for sure, but i believe sense bogs down the general performance of the driod by favouring its Homescreen performance. Correct me if im wrong.
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imho, the only sense upperhand vs other launchers and the scrolling/flipping and animation speed. Pretty much undeniable that Sense scrolls really fast and animates/trans really fast. However, if you would take a look at the amount of memory SENSE is using... I can't say for sure, but i believe sense bogs down the general performance of the driod by favouring its Homescreen performance. Correct me if im wrong.
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agreed. .. performance wise its the worst but esthetically its the nicest launcher out there. .. would be great if you can keep those elements in a rom and get rod of all other bloatware that hogs memory or slows the system down. .. would make for the best rom ever
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actually, there are many chiefs successfully "cleaned" up sense and did a pretty good job. Then again, i've always prefer lighter roms... well, each to his own.
lol this must be sound stupid.. but which GB rom have more RAM after installed the rom? thanks
NXT Lite edition.
Indeed probably NXT lite. Don't even bother with ICS,
How about for the r800x? NXT seems to be GSM only as far as I can tell...
I'm running FXP ICS and LuPuS Kernel on my r800x right now, and its decent but it seems like it could be faster when browsing the web and playing some 3D games (Minecraft and Block Story). I think its related to a lack of memory because overclocking and lower graphical details does very little to improve performance. so I'd like to try out a ROM that doesn't use so much RAM. I love ICS but I'm willing to go back to GB if the performance is good enough.
I do actually use this as a phone though, so going without cell signal isn't an option.
I heard that Cola ROM is good?
I get about 270mb of free ram with Cola believe it or not, also it's CDMA.
check it out
I'm thinking about finally ditching the 2.3.4 stock rom that's served me well for so many years.
...but since I have been spoiled by 2.3.4, I'm coming in with some extremely high standards. I understand a lot of my Gameloft games will be broken, and I'm willing to come to terms with that.
Requirements:
- I don't want to sacrifice major hardware elements (touchpad/buttons, camera/720p recording, GPS, BT)
- Looking for battery life that will either match or exceed the famously spectacular battery life 2.3.4 users know of
- I'd like to have the new Xperia Play Game Launcher I've seen in the ICS previews
It's asking both a little and a lot at the same time... but with those requirements set in place, I'm not terribly picky about whether it's 4.0, 4.1, 4.2 or 4.3... as long as it's one of them.
Any suggestions?
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I'm thinking about finally ditching the 2.3.4 stock rom that's served me well for so many years.
...but since I have been spoiled by 2.3.4, I'm coming in with some extremely high standards. I understand a lot of my Gameloft games will be broken, and I'm willing to come to terms with that.
Requirements:
- I don't want to sacrifice major hardware elements (touchpad/buttons, camera/720p recording, GPS, BT)
- Looking for battery life that will either match or exceed the famously spectacular battery life 2.3.4 users know of
- I'd like to have the new Xperia Play Game Launcher I've seen in the ICS previews
It's asking both a little and a lot at the same time... but with those requirements set in place, I'm not terribly picky about whether it's 4.0, 4.1, 4.2 or 4.3... as long as it's one of them.
Any suggestions?
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Mission impossible...
Stock 2.3.4 firmware is most stable and fully-compatible for gamer like you.
And there are so many roms out there that you'll need a month to test them all...
I don't know what rom to recommend you, but i can say of some pros and cons of different ics/jb roms out there:
-Stock (Sony) based ICS roms are most compatible in terms of hardware features. Touchpads works in 90% of games (esspecially in gameloft games). All other hardware is almoust 100% in working state. But, ICS is little heavier in terms of memory managment, and whatever rom you choose, if you install heavy apps like facebook that are always on, you're gonna meet Mr.Lag very soon. Also, compared to stock GB, most of them have volume in around 90%, wich is acceptable. You can flash 480p Lupus kernel and getting some free RAM (fyi, 480p on GB is not same as 480p in ICS. Imho, in ICS, 720p looks like streched 480p). Also, there are few types of Stock (Sony) based ICS roms: ported from ics beta for play (little outdated), ported from Neo L's ICS (less features, but not so heavy) and roms ported from other devices (Arc, Ray, T, etc etc), with most features (including small apps)
-CM based ICS have (as all CM roms) lower volume in general (same as stock GB without xLoud), most touchgames works, some roms have problems with back/circle button
-I don't have much expirience with MIUI roms, i tested it few times, but didn't use it much (imho, it is little heavier on RAM, but it's eye-candy). worth a try, for sure
-JB roms are all CM10 based, generally have all features of CM (but not all features of sony apps). And even it works, on all JB roms there is lag when using touchpads. It is barrely noticeable at, for example, at Nova 3, but on heavy game like Modern Combat 4, framerate drop by 10 for sure.
If i missed any, i'm sorry, that is my experience from last (almoust) two years of testing/flashing roms in few words.
I guess you already know, but just for the sake of mentioning, check Xperia Play Index - ROM'S, FIRMWARE, KERNEL'S, GUIDE'S, THEMES, MOD'S. Smokerman had a great job of continuing Fma's work there.
TLRtheory said:
I'm thinking about finally ditching the 2.3.4 stock rom that's served me well for so many years.
...but since I have been spoiled by 2.3.4, I'm coming in with some extremely high standards. I understand a lot of my Gameloft games will be broken, and I'm willing to come to terms with that.
Requirements:
- I don't want to sacrifice major hardware elements (touchpad/buttons, camera/720p recording, GPS, BT)
- Looking for battery life that will either match or exceed the famously spectacular battery life 2.3.4 users know of
- I'd like to have the new Xperia Play Game Launcher I've seen in the ICS previews
It's asking both a little and a lot at the same time... but with those requirements set in place, I'm not terribly picky about whether it's 4.0, 4.1, 4.2 or 4.3... as long as it's one of them.
Any suggestions?
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i'm using XPlaystation ICS V14 by Frago, it has smoothest ui IMO compared to the past ics rom i used b4 that is Xperia Play Z final v5 by Markphyton
@TLRtheory
MIUI v5 based on JB
from here.. 3.12.27 http://en.miui.com/thread-3182-1-1.html
or MIUI v4 based on ICS
from here.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2077280
or wt say about MIUI v2 based on GB from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2077280 and TURBO Gamers Edition MIUI v2 from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2201338
Stay with gingerbread!
Almost all other roms out there are experimental and no one was able to perfect a fully compatible one, there's or there are bugs always! If in terms of gaming and overall performance, stay with stock gingerbread, root it and install a modified kernel, from there you can experiment further to even make it better!
im a big fan of ics+ myself
because i have some problems with gb that it doesn't support my router completely
i used most of ics roms around the forum and if you only need a rom full of futures use my Iridescent_Zed_One port but i wont suggest it for gaming or heavy using.
i turned on my hotspot shield on that and started web browsing and phone freezed completely(but gaming was fair enough for myself.i dont use my xperia play for gaming anymore.)
for gaming i will suggest you stock deblaoted rom without any tweaks
Well, I'm trying out xPlaystation v14 now. So far there's a lot I like, but it has this infuriating trend of randomly hanging for about a minute, and it happens frequently enough to where I'm probably gonna try out MIUI.
...if nothing else, just for a functioning Google Now,
Okay so I have MIUI now and OH MY GOD. It was like breathing new life into my Xperia Play.
I do have a couple questions though that I'd like to ask without getting into it's own horribly swamped topic.
1) Where can I access the Permissions Manager? I really need my Link2SD to survive
2) Can I customize the icons on the lock screen? If so, how can I?
I've decided to unearth my Xperia Play for some emulation (N64 and PS1). It's currently running Aurora Play 1.1, a GB based rom if I recall correctly. I have not used it for about 1.5 years, and was wonder what is the best rom now with the greatest performance with emulation for N64 on Mupen64Plus AE and PS1 on ePSXe. My phone antenna is broken so I will not be making any calls or texts, the device is purely for gaming/emulating.
I'm open to GB, ICS or JB roms but the touchpads need to function perfectly with no lags (I remember trying ICS roms and there was lag whenever the pads were used). Thanks for everyones feedback, I look forward to see what ROMs people are running and do the same things I do
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I've decided to unearth my Xperia Play for some emulation (N64 and PS1). It's currently running Aurora Play 1.1, a GB based rom if I recall correctly. I have not used it for about 1.5 years, and was wonder what is the best rom now with the greatest performance with emulation for N64 on Mupen64Plus AE and PS1 on ePSXe. My phone antenna is broken so I will not be making any calls or texts, the device is purely for gaming/emulating.
I'm open to GB, ICS or JB roms but the touchpads need to function perfectly with no lags (I remember trying ICS roms and there was lag whenever the pads were used). Thanks for everyones feedback, I look forward to see what ROMs people are running and do the same things I do
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High-five for being an Aurora Play user.
To my knowledge, for perfect functionality and performance, GB roms are still the best. Aurora Play is a little outdated now, especially that version, although there haven't been many fantastic advances since that rom was made in terms of GB rom performance. Vokal's GB to KitKat rom (something along those lines) is quite good, whilst I've not used it personally it was a damn good alternative to AP (better in some ways too) back in the day - I can only assume it's gotten better in the past year or so. I recommend giving it a shot.
I don't personally recommend any other Kernels aside from Doom and Wedges Kernel's to be honest - any others have originated from theirs anyway, and if they could've made them any better than they were they would've.
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High-five for being an Aurora Play user.
To my knowledge, for perfect functionality and performance, GB roms are still the best. Aurora Play is a little outdated now, especially that version, although there haven't been many fantastic advances since that rom was made in terms of GB rom performance. Vokal's GB to KitKat rom (something along those lines) is quite good, whilst I've not used it personally it was a damn good alternative to AP (better in some ways too) back in the day - I can only assume it's gotten better in the past year or so. I recommend giving it a shot.
I don't personally recommend any other Kernels aside from Doom and Wedges Kernel's to be honest - any others have originated from theirs anyway, and if they could've made them any better than they were they would've.
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Thanks for your reply. I spent the last couple of days trying various ROMs. Tried xElite Gamer 2.0, but for some reason the touch pads were not functioning, as well as a couple of other ROMs. I've ended on Gin2KitKat which is what I think you're mentioning + extremekernel r3. That kernel interested me with its extra VRAM and higher OC if I needed it. This is perfect, the ROM is super fast and it almost managed full speed PPSSPP with 0 frameskip on Burnout Legends (and some games it does run). N64 is also great, SM64 runs full speed. On the previous ROMs, it gave me some stuttering sounds but that is totally not present on this ROM. I expect that the results with PS1 will be similar.
Yeah that's the one I was talking about. Nice one.
I have to say though, not so sure on the vram thing. Nice one anyway lol.