[Q] ics custom rom & camera what exactly is the problem? - Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

In most of the custom rom threads, dev's do not like being asked about why the camera doesn't work. But I can't seem to find the answer so i'm posting it here.
What exactly is the problem with ics and camera's? why are there so much difficulties in enabling the camera in ics?

madcow_mda said:
In most of the custom rom threads, dev's do not like being asked about why the camera doesn't work. But I can't seem to find the answer so i'm posting it here.
What exactly is the problem with ics and camera's? why are there so much difficulties in enabling the camera in ics?
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Because ics is a new android base and they are working as hard as they can to get it working. They don't want to hear about it not only because its in the list of what doesn't work and don't want bug reports, they also have put in an incredible amount of work and so many people put pressure on them about the camera as it is. Developing roms and kernels without a working base to start with is incredibly painstaking and is not easy. It's amazing they have gotten as far as they have with it since ace devices have no official ics base to work with. Just be patient. It will all get worked out eventually.

And don't forget that camera is not the most important in a phone
So they're going step by step... this is a very good way to proceed.

Because camera is for cam whores jk
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The guys at the Desire development managed to get the camera working: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1403113
It's a rough hack and not very stable yet but works!

Also, the current ICS roms are running 2.6.x kernels, I'm positive it has something to do with that. Wonder if we'll even see 3.x on the DHD! Hope so!

Don't understand me wrong. I have great appreciation for the work that dev's do. Everyday I enjoy the fruits of the custom rom that I have loaded onto my device.
It was just that the camera in ics seems to be a problem for many custom rom developers and I assumed that it was something more specific to the developements with ics.

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Because ics is a new android base and they are working as hard as they can to get it working. They don't want to hear about it not only because its in the list of what doesn't work and don't want bug reports, they also have put in an incredible amount of work and so many people put pressure on them about the camera as it is. Developing roms and kernels without a working base to start with is incredibly painstaking and is not easy. It's amazing they have gotten as far as they have with it since ace devices have no official ics base to work with. Just be patient. It will all get worked out eventually.
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The guy was simply asking for info. He just wanted to know if anyone has an idea why the cam is a commom obstacle for different devs.. He wasn't underestimating the developers' work(who during my 5 years with xda, has proven to be the Gods of mobile modding!)
No harm in asking, right?
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madcow_mda said:
Don't understand me wrong. I have great appreciation for the work that dev's do. Everyday I enjoy the fruits of the custom rom that I have loaded onto my device.
It was just that the camera in ics seems to be a problem for many custom rom developers and I assumed that it was something more specific to the developements with ics.
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The kernel has changed and that requires new libaries to allow the camera to interact with it, these are the properiatary blobs that only HTC can officialy provide, now it should be possible when one of the DHD sister phones i.e Desire Z are provided with an official build that the camera can be reverse engineered, but if not it's gonna be a matter of trial and error to get any knid of functionality.
BTW If anyone with a better than my sketchy understanding wants to butt in and correct me please feel free
BTW BTW Lordclockan has a build with partialy working camera up and running

I agree with you. All the best to the devs ! Good luck !

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[Q] OTA Update by carrier or phone manufacturer?

Can't find any answers on forums so here goes...will a future 2.3 OTA update for DHD be by carrier or phone manufacturer i.e by HTC direct.
I got mine p&g on 3 network but don't use the 3 sim, I use an o2...so how wld any OTA update arrive, do I need to keep putting 3 sim back in the phone from time to time or when I check for updates will it come from HTC direct?...I take it that it wldn't come from o2...
Thanks
**Emailed HTC..they say they wont be releasing any OTA update, it will come from carrier, and for me to contact 3
***Just spoke to 3...didnt expect much from them, according to their c/s call centre assistant in Mumbai, the latest version of Android 3 network has is 2.1...dimwit, I bought the phone from 3 and had 2.2 already on it, which he disputes..obviously he knows better than me who bought the phone and uses it
Have a look at the software build. If it's x.x.405.x then any updates will come from HTC directly. Otherwise you'll have to wait for the carrier to modify it first.
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...or forget about OTA and carrier bloatware, root your phone and enjoy the fruits of the XDA Development section
CitizenLee said:
...or forget about OTA and carrier bloatware, root your phone and enjoy the fruits of the XDA Development section
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Or that...
Thanks for that..yes my software build does have .405. so hopefully they will release something compatible with sense..
thanks again
..thanks for that advice..Id like to have a go but havent rooted before and not confident in doing all tahts needed
..from what Ive seen tho there isnt a build where everything is functioning (wifi, camera etc) and alot recommend not for everyday use..anyone using a custom rom with everything working yet?
chrisr27 said:
..thanks for that advice..Id like to have a go but havent rooted before and not confident in doing all tahts needed
..from what Ive seen tho there isnt a build where everything is functioning (wifi, camera etc) and alot recommend not for everyday use..anyone using a custom rom with everything working yet?
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We are all new to it at some point but the whole process is actually a lot easier than it first sounds. Just read the instructions and FAQs until it's clear what you need to do. See my reply in the thread linked below to save you searching and to save me typing it all again!:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=920238&page=2
As for things not working in custom ROMs, well that was maybe the case when the DHD was first released but it's certainly not the case now. Lets take Android Revolution HD ROM as an example - Everything works as it should and the performance of it blows all stock ROMs away.
There are other 100% working / stable / every day use ROMs too, like LeeDroid ROM which also gets great feedback from the people who use it.
CitizenLee said:
We are all new to it at some point but the whole process is actually a lot easier than it first sounds. Just read the instructions and FAQs until it's clear what you need to do. See my reply in the thread linked below to save you searching and to save me typing it all again!:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=920238&page=2
As for things not working in custom ROMs, well that was maybe the case when the DHD was first released but it's certainly not the case now. Lets take Android Revolution HD ROM as an example - Everything works as it should and the performance of it blows all stock ROMs away.
There are other 100% working / stable / every day use ROMs too, like LeeDroid ROM which also gets great feedback from the people who use it.
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Many thanks...maybe I will have a try...getting bored with Froyo cos of all the 2.3 hype so wld like to see what the fuss is about...cant read anything on android forums without them banging on about gingerbread this, gingerbread that...and an OTA from 3 or HTC isnt worth holding breath for
Ah... now most fully working DHD ROMs are also Froyo, but don't let that put you off as they will all be like night and day compared to stock Froyo. You jsut have to have a quick look at the release notes and change logs to see the differences.
However if you really do want a slice of tasty Gingerbread look at the CM7 builds, but this is where you will find things not working or unstable etc as they're experimental.
Another option to relieve your Froyo boredom is to flash one of the custom Froyo ROMs and then start customising it with mods and themes etc. See post 2 in the Android Revolution HD thread for some really cool stuff, and also in the first few posts of the LeeDroid thread.
Can't anyone implement sense into 2.3 aosp is it difficult?
Because the HTC camera beats the Android camera in my opinion
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Aamir.Badat said:
Can't anyone implement sense into 2.3 aosp is it difficult?
Because the HTC camera beats the Android camera in my opinion
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We'll have to wait for HTC to release the official update, or wait for another model HTC to get 2.3 and then be ported over to DHD.
It will happen, we just have to be patient... something I learned waiting for the 2.1 update for Hero!
In think custom 2.2 would be better than stock 2.3 anyway. On the other hand, custom ROMs based on 2.3 are something to get excited about
Aamir.Badat said:
Can't anyone implement sense into 2.3 aosp is it difficult?
Because the HTC camera beats the Android camera in my opinion
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HTC! there's potentially a lot of work with the framework and API changes from Froyo to gingerbread and I wouldn't expect personally to see a GB sense ROM until HTC have ported it

[Q] Why No Love Anymore for Froyo?

I've said it before numerous times here, that I haven't had a very pleasurable experience with Gingerbread ROMs (i.e. those built off CM7 source). Every GB ROM I've tried has had their good and bad points, but many of those bad points span across them all since they're built off CM7. Not being able to play videos in portrait mode, Gmail not handling text properly in its margins, etc etc keeps me going back to ROMs built off Froyo. Specifically, I'm thoroughly enjoying Virtuous 1.0.1 (built on HTC Sense), as everything works perfectly in it.
Sadly, no one is making ROMs built off Froyo anymore. If you look back at any of the threads starting with [ROM], you'll notice there aren't many that don't have either "gingerbread" or "CM7" in their titles. ROMs that were built using Froyo have dead links or aren't supported by the developers anymore, so if you have questions or want to report an issue you can't. I wish I had the skills to develop my own ROMs for G2 owners, but I'm just not smart enough nor do I have free time to try learning how to do that. Are there any devs here who would consider building some Froyo ROMs? I know there are still some out there that we could use (Villision by TeamVillain, CM 6.1.1, etc), but they haven't been updated in quite some time.
Who here would prefer using Froyo over Gingerbread? I can't be the only one here who isn't totally sold on Gingerbread. Maybe once the source code is released so devs can build ROMs off it without using CM7 as a base, then I will really start to enjoy it.
/end_rant
You just might be the only one here looking for this, lol. Jk. Its the curse of moving forward with this tech. Noone wants to linger on old, they wanna be pushing into the future. Ive abandoned my froyo builds awhile ago. Deleted backups and everything. So sad.
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PyroMod is pretty stable AND it supports actual A2SD. GO Launcher is also better than ADW and the stock Launcher.
If you like Virtuous you might want to give the Desire S ROM a try, it's the best ROM I've used on this phone so far.
blackknightavalon said:
PyroMod is pretty stable AND it supports actual A2SD. GO Launcher is also better than ADW and the stock Launcher.
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I think you're missing the point of this thread. I don't want Gingerbread ROMs built off CM7 source (with PyroMod it's built off CM7-Nightly-31). I'm looking for more ROMs or more development of ROMs built on Froyo. Granted, that could be a really good ROM, but it's still going to have the underlying issues I explained in my OP since this isn't built off pure Gingerbread code. Thanks for the suggestion, though.
There are a few us that still prefer froyo to gingerbread... with CM6.1.1 is there any room for improvement though? I doubt it... when CM goes stable (very soon) and with the release of an official GB for the G2/Desire Z... it won't be long before all of us switch to GB for good.
Freakytah said:
You just might be the only one here looking for this, lol. Jk. Its the curse of moving forward with this tech. Noone wants to linger on old, they wanna be pushing into the future. Ive abandoned my froyo builds awhile ago. Deleted backups and everything. So sad.
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Wow genius... tell us more, please! Enlighten us stone age morons, please!
sino8r said:
Wow genius... tell us more, please! Enlighten us stone age morons, please!
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Are you retarded dude? Why you talking ****? I saw nowhere in his post being disrespectful...pull your frontend thong out of your bruised snatch
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Spastic909 said:
Are you retarded dude? Why you talking ****? I saw nowhere in his post being disrespectful...pull your frontend thong out of your bruised snatch
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Who the **** are you to say anything? It was a joke just like his post... obviously you can't tell the difference between sarcasm and being a jerk off. Why don't you actually contribute something instead of criticizing posts which you don't even comprehend, douche drinker
sino8r said:
There are a few us that still prefer froyo to gingerbread... with CM6.1.1 is there any room for improvement though? I doubt it... when CM goes stable (very soon) and with the release of an official GB for the G2/Desire Z... it won't be long before all of us switch to GB for good.
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I also prefer froyo too.. and I think to make cm6 perfect is get that unknown number issue fixed. Why can't they add the same work around they did with cm7 for it? I wish I knew how to make roms, that'll be my first.. and I don't think the number issue is a sim card issue because why would they have made that workaround??
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noodles2224 said:
I also prefer froyo too.. and I think to make cm6 perfect is get that unknown number issue fixed. Why can't they add the same work around they did with cm7 for it? I wish I knew how to make roms, that'll be my first.. and I don't think the number issue is a sim card issue because why would they have made that workaround??
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That's so true... I forgot about that one. It's a pain to put the number in everytime you want to use the walkie talkie app or for looks on sms. I saw the name of the guy who supplied the fix for CM7 but am unsure of his user name on xda... if we could find that out, pm him, and add the fix ourselves to CM6.
Double post.
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The unknown phone number is the only bug in CM 6.1.1. Sure it's fine after you enter it, but you have to do that every time you reboot the phone. I would love to find a fix for that.
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I just want a stock gingerbread rom without the Cyanogen stuff.
A Nexus S out of the box!
Because it's old and Gingerbread has everything Froyo has and more? I'm not sure why this is even a question.
Tommebaas said:
I just want a stock gingerbread rom without the Cyanogen stuff.
A Nexus S out of the box!
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You might want to consider the "Stock Gingerbread".
I totally agree with you. Froyo Roms are more stable, has less problems and everything is working. I too enjoy the Virtuous Sense Rom. Everything works, I tried switching over to GB Sense, not so great with the bugs and other faults that I can't easily customize. its pretty saddening that Froyo Roms aren't being supported and updated. Virtuous Sense was one of the greatest Roms I used during my experience with the G2 and when I try some other Rom I always come back to it. Just really wish I knew how to make my own Rom. But as of now, when I just try to compile a APK with XML edits, I can't compile it into binary . If only a the Villian Rom Devs would reopen their Froyo Roms.....
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dustrho said:
Sadly, no one is making ROMs built off Froyo anymore.
Who here would prefer using Froyo over Gingerbread? I can't be the only one here who isn't totally sold on Gingerbread. Maybe once the source code is released so devs can build ROMs off it without using CM7 as a base, then I will really start to enjoy it.
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What I hate is all these roms with sense in them. I hate sense and al the sense roms i've tried have issues and never work completely. GingerV1.5 is the most stable rom I have experienced.
Ashaman_Kupo said:
What I hate is all these roms with sense in them. I hate sense and al the sense roms i've tried have issues and never work completely. GingerV1.5 is the most stable rom I have experienced.
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GingerVillain is a good GB ROM as it was built off an earlier version of CM7 (before CM7-RC2 was released). Are you having issues with Sense based on Froyo, Gingerbread or both? There are issues with the GB versions of Sense, but the Froyo ones (i.e. Virtuous) all work wonderfully with almost zero issues. I personally haven't experienced any problems with my phone running Virtuous, just the once-in-a-blue-moon unable to wake the phone with the trackpad.
I completely agree with the first paragraph of the OP. I swear, I could have written it myself.
The nerd in all of us wants the "latest and greatest", and that is fully understandable. But the fact of the matter is that GB has not been officially released yet for this hardware. All the custom GB ROMs are ports, and therefore buggy. I tried various CM7 builds for a while, at first I liked CM7. But eventually the minor bugs all got to me, and I'm on to Virtuous (but using ADW EX instead of the Sense launcher).
Aside from the bugs you mentioned, the camera button on CM7 is really laggy compared to Virtuous (or even the stock Desire Z ROM). And the GPS issue is a constant worry to me. I was able to fix it on RC1, RC2 was fine as-is. But the fact that some people have issues, others don't, and it seems to be radio related, has me thinking its a locational problem. And since I travel frequently for work, it has me less than confidant that I will have a working GPS when I really need it.
Also, there is really not a whole lot different in GB aside from some more consistent theming and a better keyboard. Sense already polishes a lot of the ugly theming in Froyo, and I use Swype anyway, so those GB benefits pretty much are moot for me. I'm sure there are performance enhancements and other small fixes in GB as well, but the performance difference seems to be negligible to me.
This is obviously a matter of personal taste. But I don't think the OP is anywhere near alone, judging from the still decent traffic on the Virtuous thread.
Tommebaas said:
I just want a stock gingerbread rom without the Cyanogen stuff.
A Nexus S out of the box!
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I'm sure that eventually there will be an official 2.3 release from HTC/TMO, once that's been made root-friendly that should be more like what you want. I actually wouldn't be surprised if it were already ready to go but is being held back until HTC gets their Sense 2.3 updates ready.

So any roms fully functional?

So my upgrade is coming up on November 1st, and I will be looking into getting a new phone in the near future, and I am finally done waiting for this ICS update that isn't coming from HTC. I was wondering if there are any fully functioning roms for the Incredible 2, or if anyone can tell me the one that is closest to fully working. Of course looking for something ICS or above and appreciate any suggestions on where I should begin...
kalojado said:
So my upgrade is coming up on November 1st, and I will be looking into getting a new phone in the near future, and I am finally done waiting for this ICS update that isn't coming from HTC. I was wondering if there are any fully functioning roms for the Incredible 2, or if anyone can tell me the one that is closest to fully working. Of course looking for something ICS or above and appreciate any suggestions on where I should begin...
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I have not tried Psycho's CM9 Global yet, but I hear it is pretty much fully functional except for the FFC is upside down or something...I have tried their CM10 Global and it is a smooth running rom, just a couple of little bugs they are working out. Mimicry CM9 based rom is almost fully functional...only thing not working that I know for sure is the FFC. Those are the only roms I have tried recently. I have also read that the Viper Sense rom is pretty good too, but it is Sense 4. I prefer the Paranoid Android, but there are some camera issues with it and a couple of other small bugs that don't affect me that much so I never notice them. Other than that I am out of suggestions, I have not tried UKB, MIUI, or any of the other roms that I hear are great roms.
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I have not tried Psycho's CM9 Global yet, but I hear it is pretty much fully functional except for the FFC is upside down or something...I have tried their CM10 Global and it is a smooth running rom, just a couple of little bugs they are working out. Mimicry CM9 based rom is almost fully functional...only thing not working that I know for sure is the FFC. Those are the only roms I have tried recently. I have also read that the Viper Sense rom is pretty good too, but it is Sense 4. I prefer the Paranoid Android, but there are some camera issues with it and a couple of other small bugs that don't affect me that much so I never notice them. Other than that I am out of suggestions, I have not tried UKB, MIUI, or any of the other roms that I hear are great roms.
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I started with aeroevan's CM9 ROM and it was terribly slow and pretty buggy. I had to reboot it at least once a day. I'm now running Psycho's CM10 Global and it's actually been really great, aside from the nonfunctional FFC, graphic tearing with Chrome, and unstable Bluetooth. Also, the CM10 Global ROM has an issue where after locking the phone it will take 1-2 seconds before allowing you to unlock again.
Why does everyone keep posting questions in general :cries:
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nitsua98 said:
Why does everyone keep posting questions in general :cries:
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Sorry, this is the only thread I ever check, so I didn't even think about it. Is there a way for me to move it? If not I guess I can just delete it...
IC Tazz has been flawless for me. I tried CM9 and CM10 for a few weeks, they work pretty good but are not 100%.
I'm using the new viper Rom. In the past I've always preferred sense tho. Viper is nice. But I prefer my own non sense widgets. So my phone basically looks the same as it did when running cm10. So I'm not sure what the point of staying on viper. Must say battery life is impressive, especially for a sense Rom. Battery life was one reason why I hated sense. But then my phone doesn't really look like sense anyways since I'm using all the same widgets as I did w aosp. *confused*
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kalojado said:
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Sorry, this is the only thread I ever check, so I didn't even think about it. Is there a way for me to move it? If not I guess I can just delete it...
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No problem man... Just I have minor ocd and it really bugs me... Lol
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No problem man... Just I have minor ocd and it really bugs me... Lol
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Haha, I can understand that. I've only been around this one for the past few months. Seriously, thanks for the reminder. I won't forget next time haha
for an ics rom, i gotta say viper sense is the most bug-free. both the ffc camera and rear cameras work fine, and you can shoot fine in 720p HD recording, a problem with many other roms.
this was one of the main problems i had with most CM's and aosp roms was that the stock camera sucked. it didnt even compare to the sense camera and pictures looked they were taken with a basic phone. the viper sense camera was great, maybe even better than stock.
as for bugs, i think the only thing was that taking a picture while recording didnt work, i dont think its supposed to though cuz the inc2 isnt designed for it? also for some reason after a reboot it changed from cdma to gsm, and i think the only way to change that it running the aroma installer again.
I'm no expert or developer but there is quite a few Roms that I have found a pretty stable that could be used as a daily driver with no problem. If you're not rooted I recommend trying it and giving some Roms a test run and seeing what you like before ditching your inc2 its a whole new experience.
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Sadly nit had to pull the ViperINC ROM earlier today due to virtuous teams request... Regarding the use of m10 I think...
Was just about to download and finally move on from GB too...
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are you serious?! i wanted to download that as soon as i got near some reliable wifi. (there's none available where i live so i use wifi tethering)
Fully functional eh? Both dkstunna and Aerovans cm9 & 10 both run nicely. Just have to make some changes depending on your carrier but youll find the solutions by reading the threads. But don't forget most roms are like that woman in the red light district. She's pretty and fun and can do a lot but there is also something under that skirt that is fully functional.
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Currently Running: Mimicry 1.5 w/ vivow-tiamat-ics-031412 Kernel, JB_ADRENO_DRIVERS_V2.ZIP.
It's been a pretty solid experience for a few months now.
Condemned Sense's Stock Build Odexed.
Depends on your definition of "fully-functional." For me that means everything that the stock ROM has including FFC, rotating softkeys, 720P camcorder, wifi-tethering, etc. Most of the ROMS listed (excluding stock ROMS) so far have issues with at least one of these things. I don't consider a mentality of "living with minor bugs" consistent with "fully-functional."
Personally my list would include:
- any of the the "standard" Sense 2.1 Gingerbread ROMs like GingerSense, SkyRaider Zeus, etc. (they all use the official 2.65 kernel specifically built for GB)
- Arctic Ascension 2.02 (aka IC Tazz 3.6) - Sense 3.6 using the leaked Chinese v3.x OTA kernel - everything including the stuff I mentioned works on it. It even includes features not even the stock ROM has such as automatic 3G switching when sending and receiving MMS messages.
Try CM 7.2, it was the first rom i flashed. the battery life is extraordinary and it runs fast like hell! only problem is its a bit old fashioned.
I'm currently running ViperSense 1.1, but its just slightly slow because its using a stock kernel
Thanks everyone for taking the time to give me this information. I have been busy but plan to look into these very soon! Much appreciation!
Miui 1.12.9 with Aerovan's 0.7 CFS kernel.

so manny roms's! where are the stable one's?

Hi all,
I hope the developers read this also.
I dont get it, there are so manny different roms here, why are those people not working together for one stable rom?
I abused my Phone the last weeks with alot of roms found in development but all had issues, the issues dint resolve but the developer is paying attention to other version of android.?
Dont see this as a big flame to all of you,, i really love the fact that people put time in a old Phone like mine and make a nice rom for it.
But still... why so manny different roms? i see dev's having 3 threads with 3 different roms and there all apha beta, but no stables?
Is it a who's got the biggest brain idea here? or do i see it complete wrong?
Because 4.1.2 isnt stable but all the time goes in 4.2? then why even bother to make 4.1.2 if its Always stays in apha...
isnt that just a waste of time? isnt it alot better if the dev's working as 1 team?
My question is:
What rom is 4.1.2 or 4.04 and stable?
For now i'm using nikez lente 3.1P1 ? (the latest for 4.1.2) with nightly
but its crashing to much
But i really would like to see a stable 4.04 / 4.1.2 because it looks great!
Again dont see the evil in this post, its really something i just dont get and like to know why...
And yes big typing mistakes sorry
gr,
Tim
Timeku said:
Hi all,
I hope the developers read this also.
I dont get it, there are so manny different roms here, why are those people not working together for one stable rom?
I abused my Phone the last weeks with alot of roms found in development but all had issues, the issues dint resolve but the developer is paying attention to other version of android.?
Dont see this as a big flame to all of you,, i really love the fact that people put time in a old Phone like mine and make a nice rom for it.
But still... why so manny different roms? i see dev's having 3 threads with 3 different roms and there all apha beta, but no stables?
Is it a who's got the biggest brain idea here? or do i see it complete wrong?
Because 4.1.2 isnt stable but all the time goes in 4.2? then why even bother to make 4.1.2 if its Always stays in apha...
isnt that just a waste of time? isnt it alot better if the dev's working as 1 team?
My question is:
What rom is 4.1.2 or 4.04 and stable?
For now i'm using nikez lente 3.1P1 ? (the latest for 4.1.2) with nightly
but its crashing to much
But i really would like to see a stable 4.04 / 4.1.2 because it looks great!
Again dont see the evil in this post, its really something i just dont get and like to know why...
And yes big typing mistakes sorry
gr,
Tim
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There are no stable ICS or JB ROMs for the Desire. Period.
And in all probability there won't be one too because our phone hardware just doesn't support these newer versions.
There are many stable and fully functioning GB ROMs.
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They are stable. You just cannot call anybody from time to time and sometimes you get black screen and you cannot receive sms and camera does not work. And sometimes the phone hangs on incoming calls....
But apart from all that, they are very stable...
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They are stable. You just cannot call anybody from time to time and sometimes you get black screen and you cannot receive sms and camera does not work. And sometimes the phone hangs on incoming calls....
But apart from all that, they are very stable...
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hahaha quality
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They are stable. You just cannot call anybody from time to time and sometimes you get black screen and you cannot receive sms and camera does not work. And sometimes the phone hangs on incoming calls....
But apart from all that, they are very stable...
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just my point. When i look @ cynagogen site or evervolv you see alot of work in custom roms, but none are stable as in works like you buy it from the shop.
Ofcourse Custom roms need alot of developing, bugs are easy to make, but i just dont get it why you make alot of time en effort into a rom like 4.1.2 and then suddenly you drop it and lets do 4.2 now...
The saddest part is that alot of you people donate a bit monny for the time they put into the rom but then at the end you got a bug Phone and a new rom 4.2 thats crashes 90% of your time... oo yes cool 4.2 lets donate spend time on it until where alpha / beta en then we spend time for android 5!
i just dont get that...
I dont like gingerbread or 2.1 2.2 2.3 etc i want 4.0.4 or 4.1 / 4.1.2 specialy the last on from nikez lente works for a alpha pretty good so you should think where almost there but then you can read where spending or time in 4.2... pffff
Well maybe its just me but i never seen this way of working before.
I dont have the monny to buy me a 4.1 android Phone. So i would like to have a stable rom and wanna put time it in but why not all the developers at the same time. i really think you can get a good rom in 1 month then.
Make a irc channel and go.
but then again everybody thinks different.
gr,
Tim
Sandvold's ICS was very stable when I used to use it. Some odd FC were an issue but it was so rare that it never bothered me. Maybe give that a try even though it hasn't been updated for a while, it's still ICS on a Desire.
FaisalKhatib said:
Sandvold's ICS was very stable when I used to use it. Some odd FC were an issue but it was so rare that it never bothered me. Maybe give that a try even though it hasn't been updated for a while, it's still ICS on a Desire.
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just my point also, readed the 1600X pages and there still bugs in there that I think is alpha instead of beta..
installed the The fastest/stable CM10 VJ Jelly Bean 4.1.2 v2.9.1
works great... will see after some weeks, but lots of updates thats how i like to see it.
AOKP V2.2 is pretty stable .
i have it for 2 months now
Just curious...what does ICS or JB so great on Desire when for example MildWinds 2.3.7 based ROM (5.7) is working flawless and it is stable?
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Timeku said:
just my point. When i look @ cynagogen site or evervolv you see alot of work in custom roms, but none are stable as in works like you buy it from the shop.
Ofcourse Custom roms need alot of developing, bugs are easy to make, but i just dont get it why you make alot of time en effort into a rom like 4.1.2 and then suddenly you drop it and lets do 4.2 now...
The saddest part is that alot of you people donate a bit monny for the time they put into the rom but then at the end you got a bug Phone and a new rom 4.2 thats crashes 90% of your time... oo yes cool 4.2 lets donate spend time on it until where alpha / beta en then we spend time for android 5!
i just dont get that...
I dont like gingerbread or 2.1 2.2 2.3 etc i want 4.0.4 or 4.1 / 4.1.2 specialy the last on from nikez lente works for a alpha pretty good so you should think where almost there but then you can read where spending or time in 4.2... pffff
Well maybe its just me but i never seen this way of working before.
I dont have the monny to buy me a 4.1 android Phone. So i would like to have a stable rom and wanna put time it in but why not all the developers at the same time. i really think you can get a good rom in 1 month then.
Make a irc channel and go.
but then again everybody thinks different.
gr,
Tim
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What you need to understand is that developers are trying to bring the latest and the greatest of Android to Desire. Stable GB updates for Desire were released when even HTC had given up on official GB update.
To use ICS or JB on Desire, you need to accept that it will never be as fast a SIII or OneX simply due to hardware limitations. Still there are ICS & JB ROMs available stable enough to be used on a daily basis quite comfortably. Multiple devs working on the same problem is not the solution.
If you can't upgrade to a JB phone, install a good JB ROM like Vijendra's CM10 JB and enjoy the new features with occasional restarts. But if photo and video recording is important to you even with the poor old 5 MP camera on our Desire, stick to GB.
I like vijndra's cm10 JB - rom based in evervolv. It is fast and very stable.
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xsreality said:
What you need to understand is that developers are trying to bring the latest and the greatest of Android to Desire. Stable GB updates for Desire were released when even HTC had given up on official GB update.
To use ICS or JB on Desire, you need to accept that it will never be as fast a SIII or OneX simply due to hardware limitations. Still there are ICS & JB ROMs available stable enough to be used on a daily basis quite comfortably. Multiple devs working on the same problem is not the solution.
If you can't upgrade to a JB phone, install a good JB ROM like Vijendra's CM10 JB and enjoy the new features with occasional restarts. But if photo and video recording is important to you even with the poor old 5 MP camera on our Desire, stick to GB.
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But now what i mean now they have made rom for all updates like ICS and JB
but Why different versions why they won't start working together and make stable rom atleast in ics then they try New versions of JB.
with new kernols ....
@Tim
You've got it totally wrong. The devs here aren't miracle workers. They just slightly edit from the resources they gain, to make it their own.
Just because a rom is titled alpha, doesn't mean it in no way can be a finalized rom.
If the resource from start isn't even beta, don't think the devs are god and can change this. You should adjust your expectations.
However I get you're frustrations about donating.
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winesh said:
Just because a rom is titled alpha, doesn't mean it in no way can be a finalized rom.
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What you nowadays call a rom - can't. I believe his frustration is derived from situation where this thread was reduced to 'JB is pretty stable'. You are looking for it in the wrong place.
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erklat said:
What you nowadays call a rom - can't. I believe his frustration is derived from situation where this thread was reduced to 'JB is pretty stable'. You are looking for it in the wrong place.
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Erklat, try the viehandras jb rom, you'll be surprised, just like am, still!
sudkcoce said:
Erklat, try the viehandras jb rom, you'll be surprised, just like am, still!
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croniccorey's is better (imo) it just feels smoother and more complete. give it a try. been using it for few days and not 1 issue with it. normaly id restore my Runnymede aio backup after a day but this rom actually works very good.
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[Q] Working Stock ICS or Jellybean ROMs?

I have spent the last few hours searching all over, just like I do every few months, trying to find a stable ICS or Jellybean ROM with everything actually working. Finally decided to just post and ask for some help. I don't care about beats audio or any other stuff people add in, just plain stock is preferable, but I need wifi, 4g, youtube, and all the camera stuff to work. Are there any ICS or JB ROMs out there where everything works the way it should?
suppersppy said:
I have spent the last few hours searching all over, just like I do every few months, trying to find a stable ICS or Jellybean ROM with everything actually working. Finally decided to just post and ask for some help. I don't care about beats audio or any other stuff people add in, just plain stock is preferable, but I need wifi, 4g, youtube, and all the camera stuff to work. Are there any ICS or JB ROMs out there where everything works the way it should?
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*sigh*
There's so much I want to say. But instead, I will say this:
This device is only officially supported through Android 2.3.5 (Gingerbread). Any Android versions past that do not have official drivers, so they would have to be built from scratch, for a device that has been EOL for quite a while. Thus, your statement "where everything works the way it should" doesn't make sense, as the device doesn't officially support running ICS or JB.
That being said, all of the ICS/JB ROMs suffer at the very least the same list of things not working - FFC, 4G, HDMI out, Netflix. Videocam can also be an issue on some. So, based on your criteria, you'll be sticking to Sprint-based Gingerbread Sense ROMs .
Captain_Throwback said:
*sigh*
There's so much I want to say. But instead, I will say this:
This device is only officially supported through Android 2.3.5 (Gingerbread). Any Android versions past that do not have official drivers, so they would have to be built from scratch, for a device that has been EOL for quite a while. Thus, your statement "where everything works the way it should" doesn't make sense, as the device doesn't officially support running ICS or JB.
That being said, all of the ICS/JB ROMs suffer at the very least the same list of things not working - FFC, 4G, HDMI out, Netflix. Videocam can also be an issue on some. So, based on your criteria, you'll be sticking to Sprint-based Gingerbread Sense ROMs .
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Not sure why all the sighing and such but thanks for the info. It's hard to tell because it's not always clear what people base a ROM on and it seems like only about half the people posting ROMs list what doesn't work. I was hoping there might be a cynagenmod 9 or 10 for it at some point but it doesn't seem likely.
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Not sure why all the sighing and such but thanks for the info. It's hard to tell because it's not always clear what people base a ROM on and it seems like only about half the people posting ROMs list what doesn't work. I was hoping there might be a cynagenmod 9 or 10 for it at some point but it doesn't seem likely.
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CM9 and CM10 both exist for the supersonic, but development has been discontinued on them. But that doesn't matter anyway; those features I already mentioned still don't work, so they're disqualified from your consideration.
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CM9 and CM10 both exist for the supersonic, but development has been discontinued on them. But that doesn't matter anyway; those features I already mentioned still don't work, so they're disqualified from your consideration.
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They exist but are not finished and only CM7 is listed on the cyanogenmod page under the HTC Evo.
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They exist but are not finished and only CM7 is listed on the cyanogenmod page under the HTC Evo.
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The CM9 and CM10 builds to which I refer are completed ROMs. They're just not officially supported by CyanogenMod. But they're built directly from CM source.
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The CM9 and CM10 builds to which I refer are completed ROMs. They're just not officially supported by CyanogenMod. But they're built directly from CM source.
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To me finished means things work. I mean what makes it finished? Just that you are able to install it on the phone? If that were the case there was a finished version more than a year ago. Obviously cyanogen doesn't think it's finished either otherwise they would make it official.
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To me finished means things work. I mean what makes it finished? Just that you are able to install it on the phone? If that were the case there was a finished version more than a year ago. Obviously cyanogen doesn't think it's finished either otherwise they would make it official.
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That's not what makes a CM build official or not. But I'm not going to bore you with facts you can find via Google. And yes, everything that can/should work work. But there are updates to drivers that can make things work better, or tweaks here and there that can be done. Besides the fact that Google releases updates/patches that need to be included.
Since I answered your original question, I will now digress.
Lol how many times a week are people going to ask about ics and jb builds with everything working, or official HTC releases without looking for themselves first before realizing they don't and wont ever exist. Yes they are finished, they boot, make calls, get data, the only things that dont work on em are 4g and FCC. Just unroot your phone and forget about it, you aren't cut out for this business son.
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^Harsh enough?
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You need to assess just how important some features are to you. If you only have an Evo, and somehow don't have an upgrade on your plan, then you have 2 options.
1: Keep it stock, everything works. No hassle, just poor battery life. Maybe get Superuser and remove the adware/junk if you feel like it.
2: Use a custom ROM which will not have working 4g, FFC, and other features that you won't know they don't work until you go to use them.
Weigh the pros and cons and make a choice, but everyone here so far is correct. The device is EOL and there will most likely never be a working ICS/JB build that has all features working. That would require too much work, for an EOL device.
suppersppy said:
I have spent the last few hours searching all over, just like I do every few months, trying to find a stable ICS or Jellybean ROM with everything actually working. Finally decided to just post and ask for some help. I don't care about beats audio or any other stuff people add in, just plain stock is preferable, but I need wifi, 4g, youtube, and all the camera stuff to work. Are there any ICS or JB ROMs out there where everything works the way it should?
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If you must have all radios and hardware of the EVO 4G fully functional, you should stick with a gingerbread ROM v 2.3.5 or later. MikG 3.11 is a Sense based ROM that is well integrated and fully supports all EVO 4G operations. You can download MikG 3.11 at http://themikmik.com/showthread.php?10338-MikG-v3-11-3-9-2012.
As others have indicated, no ICS or Jellybean ROM supports 4G or the FFC. Sadly the necessary work for the hardware drivers is not likely to happen. If you do not require working 4G or FFC, there are a number of fully functional Android 4.0.4 (ICS) or 4.1.2 (Jellybean) ROMs available. I happen to like HALO Series II Nova http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1903469&page=33 and AlienMOD Solar Flare Series V http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2086163 with the caveat that I am experiencing some tint issues with camera applications in these ROMs.
BobWalker said:
If you must have all radios and hardware of the EVO 4G fully functional, you should stick with a gingerbread ROM v 2.3.5 or later. MikG 3.11 is a Sense based ROM that is well integrated and fully supports all EVO 4G operations. You can download MikG 3.11 at http://themikmik.com/showthread.php?10338-MikG-v3-11-3-9-2012.
As others have indicated, no ICS or Jellybean ROM supports 4G or the FFC. Sadly the necessary work for the hardware drivers is not likely to happen. If you do not require working 4G or FFC, there are a number of fully functional Android 4.0.4 (ICS) or 4.1.2 (Jellybean) ROMs available. I happen to like HALO Series II Nova http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1903469&page=33 and AlienMOD Solar Flare Series V http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2086163 with the caveat that I am experiencing some tint issues with camera applications in these ROMs.
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This thread is almost 3 months old dude
Hey man BobWalker's got some catchin up to do-- there's at least a hundred threads he hasn't necro-bumped yet!
(Just kidding Bob- your posts have actually been pretty solid. Just givin you a hard time..)
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Try jmztaylor's unofficial CM9. It's my daily driver, and it's solid. 4G doesn't work, but Wifi, Youtube, and the camera all work perfectly.

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