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[Q] N1 rom on Desire

Hello every one, I've got a question (maybe already asked but I find nothing sorry) about de Desire:
My N1 was stolen a few weeks ago and I have the possibility to have a Desire. But the fact is that I don't want sense and I'd like to have the official Google OTA update, without waiting for HTC.
So my question is: is it possible to root the desire and install the same rom as on the N1?
Thanks by advance for the answers, and sorry for the english, I'm a poor french frog

Just look around the forum
If you look around in the htc desire development forum you'll find a lot of custom roms and how to's on rooting, s-off and theming.

This thread is in the wrong place
N1 ROms are essentially ASOP roms, they're all over this forum.

But if I take a custom rom, I won't be able to have the officials OTA Google updates, like it was with my N1, and that's what I want : /

see, the google updates are like cake, and the custom aosp updates here are like cake with chocolate sauce on top of it.

ok (I love cake so I love the image^^), if there's really no way I'll take a tour on the forum and check which ROM seems to be the best for me, thanks for the help.

alendar said:
ok (I love cake so I love the image^^), if there's really no way I'll take a tour on the forum and check which ROM seems to be the best for me, thanks for the help.
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althought the desire and n1 are similar there not the same, you cant just put the n1 rom on the desire so when google does an ota update, you'l magically get it on your desire too, the cake anology is good as generally the asop roms are more or less the n1 roms with tweeks to make them even better ( like overclocking etc) id recomend the defrost rom, it has ota updating built into the rom and am pretty sure as soon as gingerbread comes out we'l have it on the desire at the same time as the n1 people have it ( also you have the option of having a sense rom which is nice, always good to have options)

mintvilla said:
althought the desire and n1 are similar there not the same, you cant just put the n1 rom on the desire so when google does an ota update, you'l magically get it on your desire too, the cake anology is good as generally the asop roms are more or less the n1 roms with tweeks to make them even better ( like overclocking etc) id recomend the defrost rom, it has ota updating built into the rom and am pretty sure as soon as gingerbread comes out we'l have it on the desire at the same time as the n1 people have it ( also you have the option of having a sense rom which is nice, always good to have options)
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Crazy. You can NOT run N1 roms on the Desire
To OP: just use CyanogenMod
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Thanks a lot everyone!

[Q] Is there a viable Gingerbread 2.3 Rom for Desire HD yet?

I had an original Hero a while ago and was using Modaco roms but that was over a year ago now before jumping to Palm Pre for a bit.
So I am totally new on modern hacks and concerning the DHD.
I know I need to downgrade and something called S-OFF and Visionary. However what I need to know is if I use a 2.3 Rom presumably from a Cyanogen source will I have full functionality? All Google Apps? Can I still use HTC Sense widgets if I choose too? Will HTCSense.com still work?
Thanks

Noxis said:
I had an original Hero a while ago and was using Modaco roms but that was over a year ago now before jumping to Palm Pre for a bit.
So I am totally new on modern hacks and concerning the DHD.
I know I need to downgrade and something called S-OFF and Visionary. However what I need to know is if I use a 2.3 Rom presumably from a Cyanogen source will I have full functionality? All Google Apps? Can I still use HTC Sense widgets if I choose too? Will HTCSense.com still work?
Thanks
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Depends where you get it from, but on here most are full of bugs currently, I would wait until they are ironed out. No HTCSense.com won't work without the HTC Sense homescreen, but I would only worry about this if you REALLY need the service. Google Apps will work, and if they arent supplied they can be downloaded from the Market

Noxis said:
I had an original Hero a while ago and was using Modaco roms but that was over a year ago now before jumping to Palm Pre for a bit.
So I am totally new on modern hacks and concerning the DHD.
I know I need to downgrade and something called S-OFF and Visionary. However what I need to know is if I use a 2.3 Rom presumably from a Cyanogen source will I have full functionality? All Google Apps? Can I still use HTC Sense widgets if I choose too? Will HTCSense.com still work?
Thanks
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Sense ROM's, no as HTC has yet to port sense to Gingerbread as for Viable GB rom's have a look in the development forum
SlightlyJack said:
Depends where you get it from, but on here most are full of bugs currently, I would wait until they are ironed out. No HTCSense.com won't work without the HTC Sense homescreen, but I would only worry about this if you REALLY need the service. Google Apps will work, and if they arent supplied they can be downloaded from the Market
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Really? I have been running Cm7 (compiled from source and Now nightlies) and the only bug is a quirk in video playback in portrait mode everything else works fine, true if you like sense cm isn't gonna be your bag but otherwise it's great

ghostofcain said:
Sense ROM's, no as HTC has yet to port sense to Gingerbread as for Viable GB rom's have a look in the development forum
Really? I have been running Cm7 (compiled from source and Now nightlies) and the only bug is a quirk in video playback in portrait mode everything else works fine, true if you like sense cm isn't gonna be your bag but otherwise it's great
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No I want to try vanilla 2.3 for a bit. I have only ever used Android with Sense overlay.
You saying the Cm7 nightlys are stable for day2day use and all apps are available on it? Is it the thread over in Dev forum?

Noxis said:
No I want to try vanilla 2.3 for a bit. I have only ever used Android with Sense overlay.
You saying the Cm7 nightlys are stable for day2day use and all apps are available on it? Is it the thread over in Dev forum?
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I'm using CM7 Nightlys on day2day basis, on build #5 atm, got no problems with it at all.
Thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=917271
Alltho i recomend reading up on the full proess around rooting and flashing recovery, radio and roms a few times to ensure your not getting a brick out of it

does 2.3 bring with it marvelous battery life improvements?

I did all the nececssary and now I am succesfully running slightly modded cyanogen7 daily #5. Very stable actually no problems at all so far other than the Microbes live wall paper freezing and needing a reload

jeRrRKKKK said:
does 2.3 bring with it marvelous battery life improvements?
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[Q] Why No Love Anymore for Froyo?

I've said it before numerous times here, that I haven't had a very pleasurable experience with Gingerbread ROMs (i.e. those built off CM7 source). Every GB ROM I've tried has had their good and bad points, but many of those bad points span across them all since they're built off CM7. Not being able to play videos in portrait mode, Gmail not handling text properly in its margins, etc etc keeps me going back to ROMs built off Froyo. Specifically, I'm thoroughly enjoying Virtuous 1.0.1 (built on HTC Sense), as everything works perfectly in it.
Sadly, no one is making ROMs built off Froyo anymore. If you look back at any of the threads starting with [ROM], you'll notice there aren't many that don't have either "gingerbread" or "CM7" in their titles. ROMs that were built using Froyo have dead links or aren't supported by the developers anymore, so if you have questions or want to report an issue you can't. I wish I had the skills to develop my own ROMs for G2 owners, but I'm just not smart enough nor do I have free time to try learning how to do that. Are there any devs here who would consider building some Froyo ROMs? I know there are still some out there that we could use (Villision by TeamVillain, CM 6.1.1, etc), but they haven't been updated in quite some time.
Who here would prefer using Froyo over Gingerbread? I can't be the only one here who isn't totally sold on Gingerbread. Maybe once the source code is released so devs can build ROMs off it without using CM7 as a base, then I will really start to enjoy it.
/end_rant

You just might be the only one here looking for this, lol. Jk. Its the curse of moving forward with this tech. Noone wants to linger on old, they wanna be pushing into the future. Ive abandoned my froyo builds awhile ago. Deleted backups and everything. So sad.
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PyroMod is pretty stable AND it supports actual A2SD. GO Launcher is also better than ADW and the stock Launcher.

If you like Virtuous you might want to give the Desire S ROM a try, it's the best ROM I've used on this phone so far.

blackknightavalon said:
PyroMod is pretty stable AND it supports actual A2SD. GO Launcher is also better than ADW and the stock Launcher.
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I think you're missing the point of this thread. I don't want Gingerbread ROMs built off CM7 source (with PyroMod it's built off CM7-Nightly-31). I'm looking for more ROMs or more development of ROMs built on Froyo. Granted, that could be a really good ROM, but it's still going to have the underlying issues I explained in my OP since this isn't built off pure Gingerbread code. Thanks for the suggestion, though.

There are a few us that still prefer froyo to gingerbread... with CM6.1.1 is there any room for improvement though? I doubt it... when CM goes stable (very soon) and with the release of an official GB for the G2/Desire Z... it won't be long before all of us switch to GB for good.

Freakytah said:
You just might be the only one here looking for this, lol. Jk. Its the curse of moving forward with this tech. Noone wants to linger on old, they wanna be pushing into the future. Ive abandoned my froyo builds awhile ago. Deleted backups and everything. So sad.
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Wow genius... tell us more, please! Enlighten us stone age morons, please!

sino8r said:
Wow genius... tell us more, please! Enlighten us stone age morons, please!
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Are you retarded dude? Why you talking ****? I saw nowhere in his post being disrespectful...pull your frontend thong out of your bruised snatch
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Spastic909 said:
Are you retarded dude? Why you talking ****? I saw nowhere in his post being disrespectful...pull your frontend thong out of your bruised snatch
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Who the **** are you to say anything? It was a joke just like his post... obviously you can't tell the difference between sarcasm and being a jerk off. Why don't you actually contribute something instead of criticizing posts which you don't even comprehend, douche drinker

sino8r said:
There are a few us that still prefer froyo to gingerbread... with CM6.1.1 is there any room for improvement though? I doubt it... when CM goes stable (very soon) and with the release of an official GB for the G2/Desire Z... it won't be long before all of us switch to GB for good.
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I also prefer froyo too.. and I think to make cm6 perfect is get that unknown number issue fixed. Why can't they add the same work around they did with cm7 for it? I wish I knew how to make roms, that'll be my first.. and I don't think the number issue is a sim card issue because why would they have made that workaround??
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noodles2224 said:
I also prefer froyo too.. and I think to make cm6 perfect is get that unknown number issue fixed. Why can't they add the same work around they did with cm7 for it? I wish I knew how to make roms, that'll be my first.. and I don't think the number issue is a sim card issue because why would they have made that workaround??
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That's so true... I forgot about that one. It's a pain to put the number in everytime you want to use the walkie talkie app or for looks on sms. I saw the name of the guy who supplied the fix for CM7 but am unsure of his user name on xda... if we could find that out, pm him, and add the fix ourselves to CM6.

Double post.
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The unknown phone number is the only bug in CM 6.1.1. Sure it's fine after you enter it, but you have to do that every time you reboot the phone. I would love to find a fix for that.
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I just want a stock gingerbread rom without the Cyanogen stuff.
A Nexus S out of the box!

Because it's old and Gingerbread has everything Froyo has and more? I'm not sure why this is even a question.

Tommebaas said:
I just want a stock gingerbread rom without the Cyanogen stuff.
A Nexus S out of the box!
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You might want to consider the "Stock Gingerbread".
I totally agree with you. Froyo Roms are more stable, has less problems and everything is working. I too enjoy the Virtuous Sense Rom. Everything works, I tried switching over to GB Sense, not so great with the bugs and other faults that I can't easily customize. its pretty saddening that Froyo Roms aren't being supported and updated. Virtuous Sense was one of the greatest Roms I used during my experience with the G2 and when I try some other Rom I always come back to it. Just really wish I knew how to make my own Rom. But as of now, when I just try to compile a APK with XML edits, I can't compile it into binary . If only a the Villian Rom Devs would reopen their Froyo Roms.....
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dustrho said:
Sadly, no one is making ROMs built off Froyo anymore.
Who here would prefer using Froyo over Gingerbread? I can't be the only one here who isn't totally sold on Gingerbread. Maybe once the source code is released so devs can build ROMs off it without using CM7 as a base, then I will really start to enjoy it.
/end_rant
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What I hate is all these roms with sense in them. I hate sense and al the sense roms i've tried have issues and never work completely. GingerV1.5 is the most stable rom I have experienced.

Ashaman_Kupo said:
What I hate is all these roms with sense in them. I hate sense and al the sense roms i've tried have issues and never work completely. GingerV1.5 is the most stable rom I have experienced.
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GingerVillain is a good GB ROM as it was built off an earlier version of CM7 (before CM7-RC2 was released). Are you having issues with Sense based on Froyo, Gingerbread or both? There are issues with the GB versions of Sense, but the Froyo ones (i.e. Virtuous) all work wonderfully with almost zero issues. I personally haven't experienced any problems with my phone running Virtuous, just the once-in-a-blue-moon unable to wake the phone with the trackpad.

I completely agree with the first paragraph of the OP. I swear, I could have written it myself.
The nerd in all of us wants the "latest and greatest", and that is fully understandable. But the fact of the matter is that GB has not been officially released yet for this hardware. All the custom GB ROMs are ports, and therefore buggy. I tried various CM7 builds for a while, at first I liked CM7. But eventually the minor bugs all got to me, and I'm on to Virtuous (but using ADW EX instead of the Sense launcher).
Aside from the bugs you mentioned, the camera button on CM7 is really laggy compared to Virtuous (or even the stock Desire Z ROM). And the GPS issue is a constant worry to me. I was able to fix it on RC1, RC2 was fine as-is. But the fact that some people have issues, others don't, and it seems to be radio related, has me thinking its a locational problem. And since I travel frequently for work, it has me less than confidant that I will have a working GPS when I really need it.
Also, there is really not a whole lot different in GB aside from some more consistent theming and a better keyboard. Sense already polishes a lot of the ugly theming in Froyo, and I use Swype anyway, so those GB benefits pretty much are moot for me. I'm sure there are performance enhancements and other small fixes in GB as well, but the performance difference seems to be negligible to me.
This is obviously a matter of personal taste. But I don't think the OP is anywhere near alone, judging from the still decent traffic on the Virtuous thread.

Tommebaas said:
I just want a stock gingerbread rom without the Cyanogen stuff.
A Nexus S out of the box!
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I'm sure that eventually there will be an official 2.3 release from HTC/TMO, once that's been made root-friendly that should be more like what you want. I actually wouldn't be surprised if it were already ready to go but is being held back until HTC gets their Sense 2.3 updates ready.

root and upload basic android 2.3 to dhd

Ok so here is my dilemma.
I have been waiting for an update and still not got 2.3 and now I have given up. I have used cyanogenmod before so thought maybe that was an option but never really used the extras and hated the bugs. I currently never user HTC sense stuff so I am now wondering if there is a pure Android only 2.3 Rom/ruu for the dhd and does anyone have experiences with it?

cyberpedz said:
Ok so here is my dilemma.
I have been waiting for an update and still not got 2.3 and now I have given up. I have used cyanogenmod before so thought maybe that was an option but never really used the extras and hated the bugs. I currently never user HTC sense stuff so I am now wondering if there is a pure Android only 2.3 Rom/ruu for the dhd and does anyone have experiences with it?
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bugs in cyanogenmod?currently? everything goes smoothly in CM7xx
i think that can judge by yourself...
it deppends.. you are a sense lover?
you don´t want or need root access?
etc...Then with this rom (official) it is sufficient
but i tried a oficial ruu vs leedroid (example) and leedroid gb,, its soooo much fast than the official RUU... and more advantages

cyberpedz said:
Ok so here is my dilemma.
I have been waiting for an update and still not got 2.3 and now I have given up. I have used cyanogenmod before so thought maybe that was an option but never really used the extras and hated the bugs. I currently never user HTC sense stuff so I am now wondering if there is a pure Android only 2.3 Rom/ruu for the dhd and does anyone have experiences with it?
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There is a GB ROM that is pure bar root as well as Android Revolution which is highly recommended (although I prefer LeeDroid) and whilst visually you'll not tell the difference it does have plenty of themes, add-ons etc. on the development forum - http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=765
I use CM7.0.3 and have found no bugs at all. Perhaps you flashed a nightly.
[EDIT] Dang!! Sergi beat me to it.

I have not tried cm7 yet but have tried 5 and 6 before on other phones and know that it is never 100% stable. I just wondered if a.basic stock version of Android would be better or not.
As I said iam not to bothered about sense. Only.thing I will miss is the contact sync stuff.

cyberpedz said:
I have not tried cm7 yet but have tried 5 and 6 before on other phones and know that it is never 100% stable. I just wondered if a.basic stock version of Android would be better or not.
As I said iam not to bothered about sense. Only.thing I will miss is the contact sync stuff.
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The customised Sense based ROMs are MORE stable thus "better".
CM6 and cm7 for me have been 100% stable for me. Never had a system fc or random reboot but won't argue with you about it. I can only tell you how it is on the DHD (and Hero) now. I'll say no more.

I used CM6 on my HD2 before my kid decided to unplug it from the charger and throw it onto the kitchen floor and break it, and let me tell you, it was the best android experience I had on a phone. Now that I have an Inspire 4G, I've had CM7 since the wonderful devs here got to root it, and it just blows my mind on how better and stable this thing is, as a matter of fact, I recommend it to anyone of my friends that own any android phone. So go ahead and try it, play with it, the worst thing that can happen is that you don't like it and go for a Sense ROM instead.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13657823
I think this is as near to virgin gingerbread as you can get.
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If I read the first post, I would say that you only should try some other custom roms.
They are all faster then the stock version. And the support in the threads is great.

This is probably as close as you can get
Hey there, here are some ROMs that I thought you might like to try. I had the same dilemma as you. I wanted a stock android 2.3 ROM, so I searched around but to no avail. Then I found these ROMs. Both are Android 2.3.3 and based on CM 7 but have the stock android interface. Check them out! I think you'll like them. : ) (A the moment I'm using the second one I mentioned; Ultimate Droid.)
Spike CM7: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=986672
Ultimate Droid 3.3.00 v1.8: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1028927

First ROM ever ... Absolution?

I want to flash my first ROM ever and ive been trying to read a bit and decide on the most appropriate ROM for me. I want something fast and with a good battery life and from what Ive been reading Absolution seems to offer both these things really well. One thing I dont think im willing to give up right now however is the ability to sync facebook images and information onto my contacts. Do Absolution and other Cyanogen based ROMS allow us to do that? Any one with any other suggestions that you think may be easier for me to handle for a first ROM? Also, is there a way for me to backup my current stock rooted ROM so I go back to it in case I dont like CM?

If you want cyanogenmod based ROMs, for me blackICE ROM is the best by far.
If you want to stick to official releases for our DHD, Android Revolution or wait for LeeDroiD to update his ROM
If your want sense 3.5, in my opinion SmartDroiD is my ROM of choice,it really is the best ROM I've ever used, but there is ER3BUS ROM and RcMiX Runny. Currently I'm on ER3BUS as I wanted to test it and I've ended up loosing my USB cable so I'm stuck atm but I will be returning to SmartDroiD soon as I can.
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wilkyyyy said:
If you want cyanogenmod based ROMs, for me blackICE ROM is the best by far.
If you want to stick to official releases for our DHD, Android Revolution or wait for LeeDroiD to update his ROM
If your want sense 3.5, in my opinion SmartDroiD is my ROM of choice,it really is the best ROM I've ever used, but there is ER3BUS ROM and RcMiX Runny. Currently I'm on ER3BUS as I wanted to test it and I've ended up loosing my USB cable so I'm stuck atm but I will be returning to SmartDroiD soon as I can.
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Lol, just thinking out of the box here.why not just download the ROM on your phones browser and then flash it? I've had a desire for 2 years and think out of the 1000 times I've flashed, only 3-5 of those roms was put on there from my computer..

Nagelzz said:
Lol, just thinking out of the box here.why not just download the ROM on your phones browser and then flash it? I've had a desire for 2 years and think out of the 1000 times I've flashed, only 3-5 of those roms was put on there from my computer..
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Yeah as said,flash all of them,runny is the best at current but as you can tell its individual loves
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Yea, when you first install a custom ROM after making your choice, obviously you will have clockwordmod recovery on the phone. From here you can do backups (referred to as nandroid backups) you can also initiate this from ROM manager.
Good luck intrepid Modder.
Also my recommendations are
Sense - Android Revolution HD. It's stock Sense look and feel with good battery life and amazing support, practically 24hour.
AOSP - CM7 - Again amazing support and a great experience. It can link your FB profile pics, but don't expect and decent resolution.
Bleeding Edge - LC ICS Beta 4.5 - Great if you want to try the new flavour of Android but really not for the new modder.

Thanks a lot for the help guys. Knowing that I can back up my stock rom is particularly comforting. Im hoping il have enough time this weekend to get around to doing this. By then Il make sure to look around for some videos of each of those ROMs in order to better choose my first

I feel that Absolution and Blackice are roughly on par with each other, and both are excellent. I'm very curious about Wilkyyy's reasoning...
If your only serious criteria are speed and battery life, the Oxygen 2.3.2 port can't be beaten IMHO. It has far fewer "options" than the former two ROMs though, and there is no CM7-style theming. If you use an alternate launcher like Go, though, then this isn't really an issue or even very relevant.

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That's possibly one of the funniest things I have read on here for a while

I actually am using golauncher right now and am loving it. In that case you would recomend the oxygen ROM?
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oik01 said:
I actually am using golauncher right now and am loving it. In that case you would recomend the oxygen ROM?
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Everyone will tell you what they think is the best rom out there. It is all a matter of opinion and taste. I would suggest watching the threads and see which ones are up to date with features that are appealing to you and try them each out for a few days/hours/minutes etc until you settle into one that makes you happy. There are tons of quality roms and many that are inactive as far as development too. Just be sure to back up your go to or stock rom before experimenting.

i would say virtuous affinity-v1.48.0 its fast and dont use much battery
i think you can use mybackup pro to backup your stock rom
but i think you need to root it first

Don't think twice, perfect ROM for DHD is Android Revolution HD™ 6.3.1.

wbbigdave said:
That's possibly one of the funniest things I have read on here for a while
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How's that, chief? You can use launcher themes to change the look of your phone interface, if you're really "into" that kind of thing. Yeah, sure, your settings menu won't change, but if you're gonna lose sleep over that, then your problems run much deeper in my opinion.
Another alternative for Oxygen is the kitchen, which has already been done by at least one user.
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I actually am using golauncher right now and am loving it. In that case you would recomend the oxygen ROM?
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I think you should try a whole bunch of them. Absolution is awesome IMHO.
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Android Revolution and Absolution are my two favorites... Can't go wrong with either and you get a mix of flavors, Sense (ARHD) and CM7 based (Absolution). I randomly switch between these two but Absolution has more development and updates happening than does ARHD.

thanks i tried absolution ... amazing but the one true downfall has been horrible wifi ... will try a new radio and see if that fixes things though
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