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Aren't we like behind the times with froyo?
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Really?! I never would've thought it.
I guess you'd better get started developing it.
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I was just asking, I'm no developer, but I have seen other devices with it, I apologize if I offended you or interupted your texting
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You obviously missed my point. Your question was akin to telling people standing in the rain that it's raining. We all know our phone is running an outdated OS, that's why the current CM7 port is under way.
and don't worry, there won't be a release after gingerbread in a while because google is making sure that some fragmentation is going to be removed, which will allow manufacturers to catch up to the google release cycle
I'm not so sure.. And while I was interested in getting 2.2, i've been running that since December. While 2.3 is the latest, I don't believe it offers much of an improvement over 2.2, so other than just saying I'm running 2.3, I don't know what the big deal is, maybe someone can enlighten me and make me anxious for 2.3?
With that said, my guess is most people will be happy with 2.3 for all of about a week. Then they will be wanting something else for their pathetic lives.
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I'm not so sure.. And while I was interested in getting 2.2, i've been running that since December. While 2.3 is the latest, I don't believe it offers much of an improvement over 2.2, so other than just saying I'm running 2.3, I don't know what the big deal is, maybe someone can enlighten me and make me anxious for 2.3?
With that said, my guess is most people will be happy with 2.3 for all of about a week. Then they will be wanting something else for their pathetic lives.
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GPU acceleration in certain parts of the OS, improved JIT, better battery, need I say more?
And there wouldn't be anything to ask for if Samsung had anything other than piss poor software.
I thought only the Nexus phones had Gingerbread so far.
If I'm correct, then we're not really behind - the developer phones are just ahead as I'd expect them to be.
If I'm wrong, then I'm an idiot as I expect me to be.
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I thought only the Nexus phones had Gingerbread so far.
If I'm correct, then we're not really behind - the developer phones are just ahead as I'd expect them to be.
If I'm wrong, then I'm an idiot as I expect me to be.
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All of Sony's new Xperia phones have Gbread, though they're only released in Europe, not to mention the Gbread roms leaked for thr Droid 2/X, but so far only the NEXUS's have official Gbread in the U.S.
Oh okay thanks for that. I had no idea what the Xperias were running.
I still don't think we're actually behind. Every mid level and up phone having Gingerbread while we don't...THAT'S behind.
Of course we're not bleeding edge, but we never were.
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Oh okay thanks for that. I had no idea what the Xperias were running.
I still don't think we're actually behind. Every mid level and up phone having Gingerbread while we don't...THAT'S behind.
Of course we're not bleeding edge, but we never were.
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Just the fact that we are even uncertain about Gbread in the future is a problem. Even LG (a no name as far as Android is concerned) has promised a Gbread update for its Optimus 1 (a phone selling for between FREE an $50 on contract)
Gingerbread really
And from samsung too
Be serious
Did you know it took nearly twice the amount of time for samsung to release official gingerbread on our phones than it took google to make it
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Gingerbread really
And from samsung too
Be serious
Did you know it took nearly twice the amount of time for samsung to release official Froyo on our phones than it took google to make it
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My OCD wouldn't let me go without fixing it.
In all fairness, we are not the only smartphone left out in the rain.
From a markting perspective, it sells new phones. This isn't iOS with one device to focus on selling.
If all android phones had the same OS and received updates at the same time, then you would see ads selling us hardware. Most ads point out the operating system as a selling point and this is because there's too much compitition between android devices as well as those of the same manufacturer (think samsung).
It's not fair but then again how are you to convince manufacturers to stop? Google is trying by their recent policy changes, but I don't think we will see a solid standard in android OS for another few years.
The complication is furthered by production of low cost, entry level android devices that don't play well or contain the hardware to push something like GB. You need this demographic since pay as you go appears to be a growing trend.
I am hopeful for a GB release but I know that if we want something bad enough, XDA will likely to figure it out.
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Hummm..
I have builds of GB for both my Epic and EVO.
Not sure where all the fuss over no GB comes from, must be iPhone fans who get Android phones instead, wanting to remain stock for some reason
You know when you buy a nice shiny new Nexus, you'd expect to be leading the way in the Android version race...
But what the hell is Google doing with the Galaxy Nexus? Handsets are still at 4.0.1 and 4.0.2... but the Nexus from last year and the Xoom officially have 4.0.3.
Whats up?
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You know when you buy a nice shiny new Nexus, you'd expect to be leading the way in the Android version race...
But what the hell is Google doing with the Galaxy Nexus? Handsets are still at 4.0.1 and 4.0.2... but the Nexus from last year and the Xoom officially have 4.0.3.
Whats up?
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That is what the source is for
There are already other threads on this.
The Nexus S OTA isn't even pushed to everyone. It's on hold right now.
The Xoom's ICS push is only for the WiFi version and only for specific people who signed up for it.
Who says that the GN will even get an OTA 4.0.3 update? They may even wait for 4.0.4 or whatever at this point. Who knows. But theres clearly a reason why they're not releasing it. They're not finished and just holding onto it for no reason...
If you really want it that bad you can install a custom ROM based on 4.0.3, or compile it yourself from source and flash it. Or, just wait for the OTA and chill!
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^this right there^
Xoom ICS has gone out to the general pop.
I'm on XDA multiple times a day and never seen an actual thread on this. Yea we have kangs and AOSP but who doesn't. I bought a Nexus to get Android updates as they come out... I'm running 4.0.3 and it isn't a huge deal that it isn't out officially, but why is it rolling out to everyone else BUT US?
Yea 4.0.3 may be more geared with older devices to bring them up to speed... but obviously it isn't hurting the Nexus's unofficially running the 4.0.3 AOSP roms, so why not just throw it down to us? If the Nexus is the developer phone for Google, then 4.0.3 was developed on a new Nexus. Then why don't we have it yet?
Something just seems strang IMO. Having a Nexus One and following the Nexus S, I haven't seen them update an older device BEFORE the current line. Isn't it a little weird that last years model is running a newer version then we are? Some Nexus's are running on 4.0.1. Whats that about?
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I'm on XDA multiple times a day and never seen an actual thread on this. Yea we have kangs and AOSP but who doesn't. I bought a Nexus to get Android updates as they come out... I'm running 4.0.3 and it isn't a huge deal that it isn't out officially, but why is it rolling out to everyone else BUT US?
Yea 4.0.3 may be more geared with older devices to bring them up to speed... but obviously it isn't hurting the Nexus's unofficially running the 4.0.3 AOSP roms, so why not just throw it down to us? If the Nexus is the developer phone for Google, then 4.0.3 was developed on a new Nexus. Then why don't we have it yet?
Something just seems strang IMO. Having a Nexus One and following the Nexus S, I haven't seen them update an older device BEFORE the current line. Isn't it a little weird that last years model is running a newer version then we are? Some Nexus's are running on 4.0.1. Whats that about?
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Totally.My.Thoughts.
One thing I'm curious about: Why on Earth was OTA for SNS halted?! My SNS with 4.0.3 was fine, IMO
If you are going to root and put a rom on your phone why do you honestly care? There are so many threads on this already. No PHONE is being pushed 4.0.3 right now anyways.
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holy hell guys the OTA for the nexus s was halted because they found some bugs during rollout, so they stopped. and they stopped galaxy nexus because of that as well. when they fix the bugs, they will continue the roll out. do you guys think google is doing this on purpose, they want to NOT give our the update to all as some master plan. or the more likely answer, they are fixing serious bugs.
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holy hell guys the OTA for the nexus s was halted because they found some bugs during rollout, so they stopped. and they stopped galaxy nexus because of that as well. when they fix the bugs, they will continue the roll out. do you guys think google is doing this on purpose, they want to NOT give our the update to all as some master plan. or the more likely answer, they are fixing serious bugs.
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Do you know how to read version numbers? 4.0.3 Small release. If it were something like 4.1, ok, but a small release like this...chill out seriously.
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I'm on XDA multiple times a day and never seen an actual thread on this. Yea we have kangs and AOSP but who doesn't. I bought a Nexus to get Android updates as they come out... I'm running 4.0.3 and it isn't a huge deal that it isn't out officially, but why is it rolling out to everyone else BUT US?
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It is out officially.
Build.
It.
Your.
Self.
The difference between a Nexus and every other Android phone is that you can take the LATEST publicly available source code and build a 100% fully functioning ROM with it. No matter how you slice it, you're not going to be able to build a 100% functioning Stock Android build for any other phones. They are hacked together. They are frankenbuilds. Yes other phones have 4.0.3 releases, but none of them are 100% functional. Not sure if you noticed, but for those phones you'll see a list of "what works" and "what doesnt work". For the Nexus phones, you can just build directly from Google's source and it will just work.
See: Nexus S vs Galaxy S. Although the Nexus S and the Galaxy S are identical in almost every way, the Nexus S has had ICS for months now. And you can build 4.0.3 for the Nexus S and it will Just Work.
The Galaxy S ICS releases otoh are FILLED with "known issues" - feel free to check yourself.
Just because it's not an OTA doesn't mean it's not available. You want a pure AOSP build that will be identical to an OTA that Google would push? Just build it yourself.
Something just seems strang IMO. Having a Nexus One and following the Nexus S, I haven't seen them update an older device BEFORE the current line. Isn't it a little weird that last years model is running a newer version then we are? Some Nexus's are running on 4.0.1. Whats that about?
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They updated the Nexus S 4G a few times before they ever rolled out updates to the mainline Nexus S. There's really no rhyme or reason to when they roll out OTAs. If you care so much about having the latest official build though, again, build it yourself from their source code. What else do you think they do? The OTA for 4.0.3 will/would be built from the same identical 1's and 0's, bits, and bytes, that is already available quite openly in the AOSP tree. It's been available for months.
i was on 4.0.1 standard with no OTA updates. doesnt matter because the nexus is made to be customised, and be a developer edition device.
i was happy to flash 4.0.3 and a custom kernel. if you arent, then i think that buying a nexus was not the wisest of decisions.
I think people just want a quality official update direct from Google. Not knocking anything the developers do, but they aren't official builds. I'd rather have something I know Google wants out there running on my phone. For all we know, there are issues with 4.0.3 which is why it hasn't been actually placed on the Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus. Yet, you are so eager to say put it on yourself.
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I would rather wait a little linger for a more stable build.
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I'm on XDA multiple times a day and never seen an actual thread on this. Yea we have kangs and AOSP but who doesn't. I bought a Nexus to get Android updates as they come out... I'm running 4.0.3 and it isn't a huge deal that it isn't out officially, but why is it rolling out to everyone else BUT US?
Yea 4.0.3 may be more geared with older devices to bring them up to speed... but obviously it isn't hurting the Nexus's unofficially running the 4.0.3 AOSP roms, so why not just throw it down to us? If the Nexus is the developer phone for Google, then 4.0.3 was developed on a new Nexus. Then why don't we have it yet?
Something just seems strang IMO. Having a Nexus One and following the Nexus S, I haven't seen them update an older device BEFORE the current line. Isn't it a little weird that last years model is running a newer version then we are? Some Nexus's are running on 4.0.1. Whats that about?
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Could be because of 4g??
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I would rather wait a little linger for a more stable build.
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I've been using Androids since the Eris came out. Seriously, 99% of the time the ROMs/kernels put out by the devs here and on other sites are more stable than the official OTAs by the companies.
And I've been using Android since the G1, minus a small timeout on WP7, and custom ROMs always came with quirks left and right, that in their entirety always managed to piss me off in some way. If they don't do stupid **** in the kernel (I especially like the enabling of Linux kernel features just because they sound nice), they mess around with the userland, trying to improve things into breaking.
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And I've been using Android since the G1, minus a small timeout on WP7, and custom ROMs always came with quirks left and right, that in their entirety always managed to piss me off in some way. If they don't do stupid **** in the kernel (I especially like the enabling of Linux kernel features just because they sound nice), they mess around with the userland, trying to improve things into breaking.
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Google tells you how and what to build a completely untouched version of their code. If that bugs ya, and is not official enough for ya, then you are missing the point of this device. The device is officially supported by AOSP for yakju and mysid. If the idea of a source built rom bugs you just because its not on a Google sanctioned buildbox, then thats a shame.
I understand what you are saying about customized builds, but its easy to make a completely stock Google approved experience. Download source, setup vendor, and then make. Then you can use fastboot to flash. No need for clockwork, no need for root. If there is a demand for this, I would be happy to make both maguro and toro builds. I won't even root them and they will be odexed.
Once i get some time i plan on compiling myself a fully stock ics rom. Cause i can and that is the point of this stupid thing.
Just read this. Looks like 4.0.5 may be out in a month or so. Wonder if 4.0.4 was just a test build maybe? Doesnt make sense that 4.0.5 will be coming out so soon after 4.0.5 was leaked.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...e-galaxy-sii-and-htc-sensation-in-march-2012/
Possibly ... why not?
cdma version update again? gsm has been abandoned?
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cdma version update again? gsm has been abandoned?
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Read the article. It is for the GSM version.
If this 4.0.5 update is real, I really hope Google has time to update the Android repos this time. Seriously.
It's embarrassing seeing Google promote the Nexus as the open phone and then release binary updates with no source attached, like it did with 4.0.4.
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If this 4.0.5 update is real, I really hope Google has time to update the Android repos this time. Seriously.
It's embarrassing seeing Google promote the Nexus as the open phone and then release binary updates with no source attached, like it did with 4.0.4.
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Oh ffs, 4.0.4 hasn't OFFICIALLY been released yet.
Exactly. It was a leak.
Couple things here.
SFR is the only company reporting it and has been before 4.0.4 was discovered.
Anyone find it funny a carrier announcing a software version for a carrier unlocked device?
Its not impossible as this is a Nexus device. It is unlikely though. Maybe its a typo? 4.0.3 was labeled as 4.1 on the repos at one point on accident. It shows in the commits.
adrynalyne said:
Couple things here.
SFR is the only company reporting it and has been before 4.0.4 was discovered.
Anyone find it funny a carrier announcing a software version for a carrier unlocked device?
Its not impossible as this is a Nexus device. It is unlikely though. Maybe its a typo? 4.0.3 was labeled as 4.1 on the repos at one point on accident. It shows in the commits.
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Yes, I do not see why a carrier would claim to be rolling out a developer device ota, my bet is that it is listed by accident as its not their job to update, still think it may hint to 4.0.5 though, misadvertised or not
4.0.4 looked like a nice fix in a few places, but never was a complete rom, hope to see 4.0.5 as a nice full release to play with
4.0.4 seems to be for LTE only so maby 4.0.5 will be the GSM version.
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4.0.4 seems to be for LTE only so maby 4.0.5 will be the GSM version.
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Eh, I don't know, from what I have heard 4.0.3 was supposedly for the GSM Nexus so theoretically 4.0.4 should be Google catching them up so 4.0.5 should be for both....
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Eh, I don't know, from what I have heard 4.0.3 was supposedly for the GSM Nexus so theoretically 4.0.4 should be Google catching them up so 4.0.5 should be for both....
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I've never read that.
4.0.3 was the official platform release
it was the release for the galaxy S
Everyone assumed it would come to the gnex because why wouldn't it but obviously google wanted to fix a slew of issues first.
To be honest I couldn't care less what version gets released as long as the bugs get sorted out ASAP. Browser stability is a big drawback for me, especially on flash rich sites. Countless random reboots and other annoying bugs along with general "smoothness" of the OS is needed.
By the way I'm on unrooted stock 4.0.2 GSM GN.
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I've never read that.
4.0.3 was the official platform release
it was the release for the galaxy S
Everyone assumed it would come to the gnex because why wouldn't it but obviously google wanted to fix a slew of issues first.
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Google classified 4.0.3 for Nexus S. Check the page.
Don't ever expect anything from French providers, they are way too slow and inefficient. (except Free which is a brand new company)
0.0.1 updates are typically device and location specific update.
According to who?
Last I checked, 4.0.4 included fixes needed for the entire platform, not just a specific carrier.
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Don't ever expect anything from French providers, they are way too slow and inefficient. (except Free which is a brand new company)
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If they say they will release 4.0.5, given the fact that they modify the system, it means that they will / they already have the official 4.0.5. Which means we might get it before they release their modified version.
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If this 4.0.5 update is real, I really hope Google has time to update the Android repos this time. Seriously.
It's embarrassing seeing Google promote the Nexus as the open phone and then release binary updates with no source attached, like it did with 4.0.4.
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What are you talking about ?
Repos have been updated, source is available online for quite sometime, even gerrit is up again. People want the latest? Build from aosp master branch.
Are you saying that you want to download 7+ gb of source code with a OTA or a "leaked" update?
Or are you talking about getting source code of proprietary stuff, like gpu, camera, sensors, GPS? That won't happen, at least by what JBQ told us @android-building. It isn't nor will it be possible to build a update package for the nexus all from source code. And Google is still undergoing to get all the other binaries from hardware suppliers, since we only have two officially available of the five or six needed.
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4.0.4 seems to be for LTE only so maby 4.0.5 will be the GSM version.
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I really need the possibility to mount the pen drive on my GNEX without rooting it, I'm really bothered from this google "slowness".
Does anyone know when the 4.0.3 ota for yakju will come out?
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Tomorrow...
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I don't want 4.0.3, I want 4.0.4... but I guess google has forgotten their dev phone and just slaves to verizion now for the CDMA/LTE version...
that, or only carrier employees leak updates before they are officially released. And that's why it seems we are forgotten.
Alas, there's always the roms to go with hehe..guess I'm just impatient
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Does anyone know when the 4.0.3 ota for yakju will come out?
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You really think random forumgoers on XDA just know when the 4.0.3 OTA is scheduled to roll out?
Luxferro said:
I don't want 4.0.3, I want 4.0.4... but I guess google has forgotten their dev phone and just slaves to verizion now for the CDMA/LTE version...
that, or only carrier employees leak updates before they are officially released. And that's why it seems we are forgotten.
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um, 4.0.4 for the CDMA version isn't official. We have 1 leak and that's it. And nothing about that indicates that its any "better" than 4.0.3 for the GSM version that Google is working on. Just because its .0.1 higher, doesn't mean its better. There may never be 4.0.4 for the GSM version. You don't know.
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um, 4.0.4 for the CDMA version isn't official. We have 1 leak and that's it. And nothing about that indicates that its any "better" than 4.0.3 for the GSM version that Google is working on. Just because its .0.1 higher, doesn't mean its better. There may never be 4.0.4 for the GSM version. You don't know.
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Um, I didn't imply it was official. And there are people that say there are improvements.
- some say the Android OS bug is fixed (although that is just a cosmetic bug).
- some say they are getting better battery life (but that could just be placebo).
- some say that the crappy low volume is finally fixed in 4.0.4 (but who knows).
You don't even know if google is working on 4.0.3 for the GSM version - sure it was mentioned by some google engineers to include some fixes, but that doesn't mean they haven't moved on to the next rev already after pulling back 4.0.3 for the nexus_s for whatever bugs that were in it that they felt they needed to pull the OTA.
I think it's pretty clear they aren't releasing a 4.0.3 OTA, as it's been in AOSP for what seems like forever now. So they must be moving on from it.
edit: add to it that 4.0.4 already leaked for the nexus_s too
Bored Google employees in the know...can't blame me for trying
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Bored Google employees in the know...can't blame me for trying
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Sadly it seems like nothing ever leaks from google. It's always for models released for a specific carrier (verizon or sprint) that leak. Probably during the carriers testing phase before they give google the green light to release an OTA.
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um, 4.0.4 for the CDMA version isn't official. We have 1 leak and that's it. And nothing about that indicates that its any "better" than 4.0.3 for the GSM version that Google is working on. Just because its .0.1 higher, doesn't mean its better. There may never be 4.0.4 for the GSM version. You don't know.
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It IS official as it's on the Google OTA server, it's just not officially been pushed out yet. There's a difference
As for the OP, we're not getting 4.0.3 after the issues found in the Nexus S release. We'll likely get 4.0.x as and when Google feel it's ready to be released. Dev phone or not, the release still has to be stable.
If you're THAT bothered, build your own ROM from the source
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It IS official as it's on the Google OTA server, it's just not officially been pushed out yet. There's a difference
As for the OP, we're not getting 4.0.3 after the issues found in the Nexus S release. We'll likely get 4.0.x as and when Google feel it's ready to be released. Dev phone or not, the release still has to be stable.
If you're THAT bothered, build your own ROM from the source
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It ain't official till its pushed widely to all CDMA GNex users.
We'll agree to differ in that case then. By your logic RUUs aren't official either for HTC devices but they come from HTC
Just cause they're not being pushed out doesn't make them unofficial
It's getting a little sad that there is still no credible rumors on an official update for Verizon Nexus Owners. The 4.04 update to GSM owners may have caused some issues for them and Google jumped on it and fixed in a few weeks. Would love for Verizon/Google to show us a little love too.
Nope I already have 4.0.4, and have a ton of customization options that I wouldn't have with stock.
I've been here since December waiting for some bug fixes. Makes me sad really.
Its not on Google, this falls on Samsung/Verizon and their proprietary blobs or whatever the heck you call them, lol
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Nope. I come for the comedy of threads like this.
good day.
Verizon is the holdup, not Google. The only upside is that the firmware for the VZW version will probably not be prone to some of the same problems the GSM version has had due to the extra testing.
It's equally frustrating for VZW Xoom owners. The WiFi-only Xoom got ICS in January. The VZW Xoom is still on Honeycomb. Apparently Google finished the ICS build for it a while ago but Verizon hasn't finished testing because it isn't a priority device for them.
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Yes, I visit this forum and a few others to try to get info on the Verizon update. My phone suffers from the audio reboot/one-way audio issue and it's extremely frustrating. I know I can root and flash but I choose to leave my device stock. It's a toss-up as I'd rather wait to have the update properly tested, but the phone part of my phone is almost useless.
Nope. I've been running IMM76D since day one of release. I will be running IMM76I in the next day or so as well, if I get off my butt.
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Yes, I visit this forum and a few others to try to get info on the Verizon update. My phone suffers from the audio reboot/one-way audio issue and it's extremely frustrating. I know I can root and flash but I choose to leave my device stock. It's a toss-up as I'd rather wait to have the update properly tested, but the phone part of my phone is almost useless.
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I've always taken a proactive approach to Android phones. I don't look at it as how bug free it is stock, but rather what I need to do to fix it and be happy.
And I am a happy owner.
cordell12 said:
Its not on Google, this falls on Samsung/Verizon and their proprietary blobs or whatever the heck you call them, lol
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Wrong. Google updates the Verizon Galaxy Nexus...it's just that updates have to be approved by Verizon first. Simple as that.
what are you guys doing? waiting around for stock images and ota's? flash cyanogen and be done with it, you'll be up to date and have more customizations than stock anyway ...
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what are you guys doing? waiting around for stock images and ota's? flash cyanogen and be done with it, you'll be up to date and have more customizations than stock anyway ...
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I prefer stock myself because I don't like the "everything AND the kitchen sink" mentality of custom ROMs. I like the "less is more" mentality. Plus, stock ROMs may not have quite the performance of a custom, but stock ROMs generally work better as daily drivers because they're more stable. In addition, kernels are a touchy subject for me as well. I sort-of have trust issues with developers writing kernel tweaks for hardware of which they have no documentation. Only OEMs truly know what a device's hardware is capable of and what its limitations are.
I also keep my stock ROM unrooted because root access doesn't really give me any functionality that I'm interested in. I'd basically root because I can, and that's not really very appealing. *shrug*
Different strokes for different folks.
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what are you guys doing? waiting around for stock images and ota's? flash cyanogen and be done with it, you'll be up to date and have more customizations than stock anyway ...
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I'm waiting for a rom AND radio update the truly fixes some of the big items. I've been reading on the radios and as far as I've read there isn't a true fix on the radio (voice and data) yet for Verizon CDMA phones.
boe said:
I'm waiting for a rom AND radio update the truly fixes some of the big items. I've been reading on the radios and as far as I've read there isn't a true fix on the radio (voice and data) yet for Verizon CDMA phones.
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The I515.LA02 radio that comes with the 4.0.4/IMM30B OTA is excellent. Improved my radio noticeably.
boe said:
It's getting a little sad that there is still no credible rumors on an official update for Verizon Nexus Owners. The 4.04 update to GSM owners may have caused some issues for them and Google jumped on it and fixed in a few weeks. Would love for Verizon/Google to show us a little love too.
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Yes, I prefer stock myself to, however... one of the main reasons I got the Nexus was for "timely" updates.
4 months is not timely when the rest of the world has an android version newer than my "flagship" device!!! I finally got fed up with Verizon's phone support/approval process so I unlocked/rooted/flashed AOKP and franco kernel.
I've never looked back.
oldblue910 said:
I prefer stock myself because I don't like the "everything AND the kitchen sink" mentality of custom ROMs. I like the "less is more" mentality. Plus, stock ROMs may not have quite the performance of a custom, but stock ROMs generally work better as daily drivers because they're more stable. In addition, kernels are a touchy subject for me as well. I sort-of have trust issues with developers writing kernel tweaks for hardware of which they have no documentation. Only OEMs truly know what a device's hardware is capable of and what its limitations are.
I also keep my stock ROM unrooted because root access doesn't really give me any functionality that I'm interested in. I'd basically root because I can, and that's not really very appealing. *shrug*
Different strokes for different folks.
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Why don't you try a custom ROM first? There are many that are awesome
"daily drivers." I am running Gummy 1.0.1 and it is freaking incredible! The stability is better than stock and you can't tell a difference from stock if you don't change anything in the Gummy settings. Instead of having trust issues with developers, give them a shot and try some of the stuff out.
oldblue910 said:
I prefer stock myself because I don't like the "everything AND the kitchen sink" mentality of custom ROMs. I like the "less is more" mentality. Plus, stock ROMs may not have quite the performance of a custom, but stock ROMs generally work better as daily drivers because they're more stable. In addition, kernels are a touchy subject for me as well. I sort-of have trust issues with developers writing kernel tweaks for hardware of which they have no documentation. Only OEMs truly know what a device's hardware is capable of and what its limitations are.
I also keep my stock ROM unrooted because root access doesn't really give me any functionality that I'm interested in. I'd basically root because I can, and that's not really very appealing. *shrug*
Different strokes for different folks.
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Cyanogenmod 9 has been stable for months now as they have been focusing on it as a main priority. Not to mention obvious extra features that they have been adding once they have been deemed stable. I use GLaDOS kernel and easily get 3x the battery life and way faster than any stock rom's kernel. Custom kernels like GLaDOS and Lean Kernel never had the "signal drop" issue with 4.0.4 because they patched it in their kernels a along time ago.
Root doesn't add any functionality that you are interested in? Have you heard of LBE Privacy Guard? https://play.google.com/store/apps/...1bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5sYmUuc2VjdXJpdHkubGl0ZSJd
Dev's only improve on stock as far as i am concerned. I donate and support devs because of the enhancements that they make in making this phone better. You are not getting all you can out of your phone if you're on stock ...
like you said to each his own ...
The tools are available for the latest update. If you don't want to take it into your own hands then you really can't complain about it if you're unwilling to fix it yourself.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
blowtorch said:
what are you guys doing? waiting around for stock images and ota's? flash cyanogen and be done with it, you'll be up to date and have more customizations than stock anyway ...
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Yes, I am waiting for OTAs. Modifying my primary means of communication scares the crap out me, espeically with the chance of making it a $300 paperweight. I understand that tens of thousands of people modify their Android devices every day without issue, and the risk of bricking is extremely low. However, there is still a risk and due to that, I choose to wait. The reward does not outweigh the risk for me.
I just gotta say this. THERE IS NO REASON NOT TO INSTALL A CUSTOM ROM. NONE. ZERO.
Why do you think android is open source? The arguments against rooting/unlocking and installing a custom rom are laughable. If you run stock, and complain about not being on the cutting edge, you have to realize that this is YOUR choice.
AOKP M5 will be JUST AS STABLE as stock, but with better performance, battery life, customization, etc.
If you are still on 4.0.2/4.0.3 you have nobody to blame buy yourself.
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Lucky Armpit said:
Yes, I am waiting for OTAs. Modifying my primary means of communication scares the crap out me, espeically with the chance of making it a $300 paperweight. I understand that tens of thousands of people modify their Android devices every day without issue, and the risk of bricking is extremely low. However, there is still a risk and due to that, I choose to wait. The reward does not outweigh the risk for me.
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If you use the toolkits to root/unlock, and flash custom roms, the risk of bricking your phone is 0%. This is assuming that your phone is not a lemon.
There is NO risk to rooting/flashing custom roms, ZERO. Even if you did something stupid like pull your battery while flashing something, you can ALWAYS restore.