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Going to Preorder a Desire?

Hi Everyone,
I was thinking that given the size of our community, I might be able to negotiate group discounts on new devices (especially pre-orders of upcoming devices). My goal would be to get the cheapest price possible from a reputable online retailer. I know lots of sites all over the web use stores or affiliate links to make a few extra bucks; this would be more about getting the best deal for you... if xda were getting anything out of it, I would make sure that was 100% clear.
Does this interest you guys at all? I have no idea how large of a discount I could get (maybe only 5- 10%), but I wanted to gauge the interest before I tried.
How many of you actually plan on pre-ordering one of the new HTC devices? Which one?
Thx!

Well, it depends on if AT&T decides to carry this phone or not. There's no point in ordering it if AT&T will eventually subsidy it for a lower cost. I have two lines that are (both) out of contract-- and I'm looking to make a major upgrade for me & the wife.
So, if AT&T doesn't hook me up, sign me up for two. But, seriously, send me a message if you make any progress.

I want this phone extremely bad. I can't make any commitment until I know it will be offered on Tmobile in the US with our goofy bands and whatnot.

I would be interested if the device would be released on ANY North American 3g bands.
I just can't live without data on my phone for much longerr

here in germany u can preorder it on amazon for 499€...a few days ago it was there for 419....but i saw it too late

I just pre ordered mine from clove..

Coatezy said:
I just pre ordered mine from clove..
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Ditto! ...ordered mine a week ago. I haven't told the wife yet as I haven't found the right time to break it to her as we're supposed to be clearing our credit cards and paying her parents back this year!
I actually go out of may way to be different and yesterday stumbled across the silver version on PDAshop.nl/.be and Smartphoneshop.nl/.be and took a fancy to it - they're the only places in Europe offering it too. I asked for a quote to ship to the UK and was all set to cancel my order with Clove but they refuse to ship outside the Netherlands or Belgium. Then I realized they are both the same company and their sites are mirrors of each other which instantly raises my suspicions ...why would the same company trade as two different competing entities if they didn't have something to hide I think.

JTHM said:
Then I realized they are both the same company and their sites are mirrors of each other which instantly raises my suspicions ...why would the same company trade as two different competing entities if they didn't have something to hide I think.
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Because then one site can claim to be cheaper than the other. Very clever.

Coatezy said:
I just pre ordered mine from clove..
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Do they charge you immediately for pre-orders?

djet said:
Do they charge you immediately for pre-orders?
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No they take payment when the stock is available.. This happened when I purchased my hd2 and I also emailed Clove to confirm this would be the case with the Desire.

Amazon.co.uk just dropped the price on Desire... 429 £ =)
Just to let people know...

Lysin said:
Amazon.co.uk just dropped the price on Desire... 429 £ =)
Just to let people know...
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Much cheaper from Amazon.de.

sindrefyrn said:
Much cheaper from Amazon.de.
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How 494€ is cheaper than 424 £???

I've just sold my HD2 and I've just bought a Desire!
I'm crazy.

Lysin said:
How 494€ is cheaper than 424 £???
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Ops. Sorry. My bad.

ghale said:
I've just sold my HD2 and I've just bought a Desire!
I'm crazy.
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Done the same..

gizz68erz said:
here in germany u can preorder it on amazon for 499€...a few days ago it was there for 419....but i saw it too late
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I was lucky and fast enough to preorder it for 419, but still dont know if I should keep my X1 and send the Desire back or replace my X1 with it - as I surely will be an early adopter of the first WP7S HTC phone

Am thinking of ordering one of these phones. Currently own a 3GS on O2.
Can pre order with mobiles.co.uk . Looking at T-Mobs Web 600 tariff at £30 per month.
Can I ask what, if any, limits T-Mob have with regards to data usage.I currently use Slingplayer on my 3GS, along with radio streaming, use Youtube a fair bit.Would I have any problems doing this with T-Mob(I understand they took the YT app off of their HD2s?), assuming of course that Slingplayer gets released for Android?

saldawop said:
Am thinking of ordering one of these phones. Currently own a 3GS on O2.
Can pre order with mobiles.co.uk . Looking at T-Mobs Web 600 tariff at £30 per month.
Can I ask what, if any, limits T-Mob have with regards to data usage.I currently use Slingplayer on my 3GS, along with radio streaming, use Youtube a fair bit.Would I have any problems doing this with T-Mob(I understand they took the YT app off of their HD2s?), assuming of course that Slingplayer gets released for Android?
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When I swapped my 3GS for HD2 I bought the HD2 so I could put my o2 sim straight in it.. Didn't want to loose the o2 data allowance from the iphone contract. And will be doing the same with the Desire.

Yeah, suppose I could do the same.Just get a cheaper tariff .Or else wait and buy a locked one?from O2?
Am currently on the £20 Simplicity for iPhone tariff.I thought they knew if the SIM was being used in a phone other than an iPhone?

Singaporeans, know where I can buy blank NFC tags in Singapore?

Hey! Singaporeans, know where I can buy blank NFC tags in Singapore?
Else I will have to look to buy from online.

i've been searching high and low myself. best bet would be online i'm afraid

nickzkcin said:
i've been searching high and low myself. best bet would be online i'm afraid
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Sim Lim Square also don't have?
You got buy from online?

Hey Bryan, did you try buying online?

anyone wants to share? thinking of ordering from tagsfordroid.com

frozen.cold said:
anyone wants to share? thinking of ordering from tagsfordroid.com
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Here are a bunch of resources I've pulled together for buying NFC tags, many ship internationally
http://www.jwksoftware.com/nfc-tags

you can buy here in Singapore NFC tags
hi you can come buy here at tap-n-go.weebly.com
We are selling most of different type of nfc tags in Singapore.
Visit us and drop us an email.
thanks.

I bought mine on eBay for pretty cheap.
http://stores.ebay.com/NFC-Tag-Store

NFC tags in Singapore
You can buy from GoTapping NFC Store, delivery within Singapore is 2~3 working days, order start from 5 usd.

[Q] Is USA version of GNEX same hardware as I9250?

I was looking at the Specifications and the US Version does not list 900 Mhz in 3g radio.
From play.google.com
NETWORK
GSM/EDGE/GPRS (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
3G (850, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz)
HSPA+ 21
When i bought I9250, the specifications listed were:
Connectivity
Wireless Radio
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz
UMTS 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 MHz
So, are US Version and Internation Version same Hardware or is the US version really missing the 900 Mhz UMTS radio?
- Sarvesh

Everyone says it's a typo that it should be the same. Lots of people asking that
Don't bait the trolls.

shadow65781 said:
Everyone says it's a typo that it should be the same. Lots of people asking that
Don't bait the trolls.
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+1. Yup just a typo.

Thanks
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On a somewhat related subject.
I'm about to buy a gnex, i can either go for the $399 deal from google's site, or i can get the i9250 from Amazon. If i go the Amazon route i'll actually save quite a bit of cash thanks to gift cards and the lack of tax/shipping charges. So here's my question.
I've read a lot of information about the i9250 imports and warranty issues in the US (i.e. warranty is not honored in the US). Is the model number the same now that the unlocked version is being sold state side, and does anyone know if Samsung US will now warrant the i9250s?

propain4444 said:
On a somewhat related subject.
I'm about to buy a gnex, i can either go for the $399 deal from google's site, or i can get the i9250 from Amazon. If i go the Amazon route i'll actually save quite a bit of cash thanks to gift cards and the lack of tax/shipping charges. So here's my question.
I've read a lot of information about the i9250 imports and warranty issues in the US (i.e. warranty is not honored in the US). Is the model number the same now that the unlocked version is being sold state side, and does anyone know if Samsung US will now warrant the i9250s?
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I don't see how they can't... Samsung should warranty their product worldwide... Its still their product, no matter where you bought it from.
But to be on the safe-side, I would contact Samsung USA and inquire with them......
Afterall, you'll get many answers here... some saying yes, some saying no... but none as definitive as the horses mouth.

Good idea... i had never thought about contacting them directly.

greeced said:
I don't see how they can't... Samsung should warranty their product worldwide... Its still their product, no matter where you bought it from.
But to be on the safe-side, I would contact Samsung USA and inquire with them......
Afterall, you'll get many answers here... some saying yes, some saying no... but none as definitive as the horses mouth.
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Incorrect. They do not warranty their products worldwide and the international versions (before selling in the Play store) were imported and considered grey market items (and they absolutely do not warranty grey market items). Almost all companies don't.
That said, I'm not sure on the status now that it's being sold in the U.S. via the Play store. I am sure they will have you verify purchase from the Play store or something similar for warranty service.

aldo37 said:
Incorrect. They do not warranty their products worldwide and the international versions (before selling in the Play store) were imported and considered grey market items (and they absolutely do not warranty grey market items). Almost all companies don't.
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So, does this mean, now that it's for sale in the play store, i can buy the i9250 from Amazon without concerns of warranty? (or, i should still contact samsung)

greeced said:
I don't see how they can't... Samsung should warranty their product worldwide... Its still their product, no matter where you bought it from.
But to be on the safe-side, I would contact Samsung USA and inquire with them......
Afterall, you'll get many answers here... some saying yes, some saying no... but none as definitive as the horses mouth.
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So, does this mean, now that it's for sale in the play store, i can buy the i9250 from Amazon without concerns of warranty? (or, i should still contact samsung)
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I'm not sure on this. They may have you verify the purchase from the actual Play store itself somehow.

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I'm not sure on this. They may have you verify the purchase from the actual Play store itself somehow.
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I just talked to Samsung. The model numbers are the same (i9250) for both international and domestic phones, however Samsung USA keeps separate records for both. So, in the case of the int'l version you would not be able to get warranty service through Samsung USA. However the rep said:
"You would have to file an international warranty claim, and i have never heard of a claim not being honored."
Granted he's just a front line rep, but that is promising information.
I guess really this is all a moot point, since regardless of how hard i try i will have the phone rooted within 3 months. I really do want to resist voiding the warranty early on this phone... but i don't see myself holding out for very long.

aldo37 said:
Incorrect. They do not warranty their products worldwide and the international versions (before selling in the Play store) were imported and considered grey market items (and they absolutely do not warranty grey market items). Almost all companies don't.
That said, I'm not sure on the status now that it's being sold in the U.S. via the Play store. I am sure they will have you verify purchase from the Play store or something similar for warranty service.
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No one ever said anything about a grey market item. With all due respect, buying a product internationally and bringing it here does not constitute 'grey market' as you put it. If it does, I would like to know a source for your information.
Secondly, I've purchased a Samsung TV in the states before, and had to get it warrantied here in Canada. They knew the set was bought in the U.S., but still warrantied it here.
So by your thinking, they warrantied a grey market item. Hmm...
And as the previous poster said, they must have filed an international claim... either way, I got my set fixed.

My international was bought on eBay, warranty is void.
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ChongoDroid said:
My international was bought on eBay, warranty is void.
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As far as I'm aware, as long as you bought it from an Authorized Samsung Dealer, its warrantiable anywhere.
eBay sellers I guess can't be verified.
EDIT: We can even go as far as saying they would warranty anything without proof of purchase, provided that the manufactured date falls within the 1 year. I know they were doing that with a bunch of original Galaxy S's way back when they had issues. At least the service centre in Montreal was from my recollection.

propain4444 said:
On a somewhat related subject.
I'm about to buy a gnex, i can either go for the $399 deal from google's site, or i can get the i9250 from Amazon. If i go the Amazon route i'll actually save quite a bit of cash thanks to gift cards and the lack of tax/shipping charges. So here's my question.
I've read a lot of information about the i9250 imports and warranty issues in the US (i.e. warranty is not honored in the US). Is the model number the same now that the unlocked version is being sold state side, and does anyone know if Samsung US will now warrant the i9250s?
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i am in the same boat i have like 300 in gift cards i dont know what to do!!!

greeced said:
No one ever said anything about a grey market item. With all due respect, buying a product internationally and bringing it here does not constitute 'grey market' as you put it. If it does, I would like to know a source for your information.
Secondly, I've purchased a Samsung TV in the states before, and had to get it warrantied here in Canada. They knew the set was bought in the U.S., but still warrantied it here.
So by your thinking, they warrantied a grey market item. Hmm...
And as the previous poster said, they must have filed an international claim... either way, I got my set fixed.
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Do you know what grey market means? Read up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_market
The GSM GNex (before selling in the Play store) was never officially for sale in the U.S. and stores imported it from other regions and sold it here in the U.S. That is the definition of grey market.
TVs may be different for Samsung, so who knows. Go ahead and do a search of the many, many, many threads asking and noting that there was no warranty from Samsung regarding the GNex bought from overseas in the U.S.
And I wouldn't trust any sort of first line customer service rep about international warranty. If that was the case that information would be *everywhere*.

tvdang7 said:
i am in the same boat i have like 300 in gift cards i dont know what to do!!!
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I ended up buying from Amazon... It's actually cheaper than getting from the play store even if you don't have gift cards because of the lack of tax and free shipping.

aldo37 said:
Do you know what grey market means? Read up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_market
The GSM GNex (before selling in the Play store) was never officially for sale in the U.S. and stores imported it from other regions and sold it here in the U.S. That is the definition of grey market.
TVs may be different for Samsung, so who knows. Go ahead and do a search of the many, many, many threads asking and noting that there was no warranty from Samsung regarding the GNex bought from overseas in the U.S.
And I wouldn't trust any sort of first line customer service rep about international warranty. If that was the case that information would be *everywhere*.
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Somehow I knew Wiki was going to show up in your reply.
Fact is, prior to them selling the GSM version here, then yes you can classify it as such... Now that they sell it here, it's no longer grey market. So you can service your model here no problem.
And as for TVs it would be the exact same thing... Model I bought was purchased in the U.S., but also sold in Canada... so there is many logistics as to why they would service it no problem as opposed to buying a model that wasn't sold here (parts, know how, etc)...
That doesn't apply anymore, because the 9250 is truly international now. So again, its no longer grey market, no matter how long ago you bought it.
So I "Read Up" as you put it... but your definition doesn't hold water if you "Read between the lines".
Last edit: And for your information and to be clear - grey market refers to product being sold outside of a manufacturers authorized distribution demographic. Nothing more, nothing less. For example.. anyone remember DirecTV way back? How Canadians were importing them and using them here? Thats grey market because DirecTV never had any intention of distributing them here.
Those demographics have changed for Samsung, and if you're not going to trust a customer service rep who's telling you the same thing, then I guess we should all just believe you.
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Book cover in the UK or Europe?

Anybody seen them somewhere? been searching but had no luck! bought LTE version from Germany!

No luck here in greece as well. Kinda annoying.
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sakiin said:
Anybody seen them somewhere? been searching but had no luck! bought LTE version from Germany!
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Get this it is surprisingly good quality for the money and will do you until a case you really like is available.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00GZIMU68/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I couldn't find the Book Cover anywhere in the UK and a fellow XDA member said to call up samsung store. So I called up a Samsung Store and they happily delivered it to me. So try calling a Samsung stire in your respective countries or try the UK store and ask if they would deliver in EU - Personally I think the Book Cover is well built and also you are certian it wont damage the devices screen unlike nearly all other 3rd party cases.

Geordie Affy said:
I couldn't find the Book Cover anywhere in the UK and a fellow XDA member said to call up samsung store. So I called up a Samsung Store and they happily delivered it to me. So try calling a Samsung stire in your respective countries or try the UK store and ask if they would deliver in EU - Personally I think the Book Cover is well built and also you are certian it wont damage the devices screen unlike nearly all other 3rd party cases.
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How much did it cost you?

TheAvro said:
How much did it cost you?
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£55 inc delivery.

OMG Is my P605 a fake.

Just checked over my device and some you tube video posts.. a few things.
I got the P605 from ATGSM.com.
The box was sealed with sticker and all.
Inside the box there were no replacement stylus tips (as seen in all the you tube reviews)
Also the box does not look like any of the boxes i see in the reviews. I take it that the version they shipped me is originally the Hong Kong.
There were no specs on the box.
Did I get a fake...a clone....... What do I do now. I can post a pic of the box if you need to see it.
I need some serious help. I paid over $700 for this device. I just want to make sure its the real deal. Especially seeing how there are so many fakes out there. Please help.

alynch75 said:
Just checked over my device and some you tube video posts.. a few things.
I got the P605 from ATGSM.com.
The box was sealed with sticker and all.
Inside the box there were no replacement stylus tips (as seen in all the you tube reviews)
Also the box does not look like any of the boxes i see in the reviews. I take it that the version they shipped me is originally the Hong Kong.
There were no specs on the box.
Did I get a fake...a clone....... What do I do now. I can post a pic of the box if you need to see it.
I need some serious help. I paid over $700 for this device. I just want to make sure its the real deal. Especially seeing how there are so many fakes out there. Please help.
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Photo's can always be helpful........ please post some.

Photo of back of box
kkretch said:
Photo's can always be helpful........ please post some.
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Here is a picture of the back of the box. Please help me.

Run the antutu benchmark and post the result
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Send the device pics
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alynch75 said:
Here is a picture of the back of the box. Please help me.
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Your box is not the same as the one in these video's, so I see what you are talking about. Besides the extra tips was anything else missing or different is your box? Your tamper sticker looks like it was placed over another one, what do you think when you look at it?
Can you post more photo's like side label and front of your box.

alynch75 said:
Here is a picture of the back of the box. Please help me.
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I bought a P605 via Negri Electronics a couple of weeks ago, and it was in an identical box to the one in your picture. My box also didn't have any spare stylus tips. Also had a Hongkong style adapter, which Negri provided a US adapter in the outer package.
I suppose the HK version just doesn't come with spare tips?
It seems real to me.

Photos of Results
marshwc said:
I bought a P605 via Negri Electronics a couple of weeks ago, and it was in an identical box to the one in your picture. My box also didn't have any spare stylus tips. Also had a Hongkong style adapter, which Negri provided a US adapter in the outer package.
I suppose the HK version just doesn't come with spare tips?
It seems real to me.
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Here is a picture of the back of the box. Please help me.
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See results in photos

You can chill out, HK SM-P605 doesnt have extra stylus tips and the box is geniune. I bought myself from ebay and the box looks exactly same and there were no extra stylus tips too in the box. Here u can se for u self HK version box: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=20037026123
HK version is SM-P6050ZWETGY and you can see it by download Phone Info from playstore.
One thing is, u must choose HK, first time start the tab, or u will miss out 900HK dollar worth contents gifts, well if u want them and there were no special really. http://www.samsung.com/hk_en/consum...e-tablet/SM-P6050ZWETGY?tabname=content-gifts
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Turn off Power Saving mode while running benchmarks and u will get higher scores.

Just making sure
dt33 said:
You can chill out, HK SM-P605 doesnt have extra stylus tips and the box is geniune. I bought myself from ebay and the box looks exactly same and there were no extra stylus tips too in the box. Here u can se for u self HK version box: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=20037026123
HK version is SM-P6050ZWETGY and you can see it by download Phone Info from playstore.
One thing is, u must choose HK, first time start the tab, or u will miss out 900HK dollar worth contents gifts, well if u want them and there were no special really. http://www.samsung.com/hk_en/consum...e-tablet/SM-P6050ZWETGY?tabname=content-gifts
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Turn off Power Saving mode while running benchmarks and u will get higher scores.
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Okay turned off power saving and results were off the charts. I just want o make sure...
Is there anyway to get $50 samsung credit and the $25 Google play credit

alynch75 said:
Okay turned off power saving and results were off the charts. I just want o make sure...
Is there anyway to get $50 samsung credit and the $25 Google play credit
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Thats for US version only and we got HK version, so no. Too bad HK contents isnt worth a dime and here in Sweden, we got any **** free contents gifts and still the SM-P605 cost damn over 1100 US. -.-

marshwc said:
I bought a P605 via Negri Electronics a couple of weeks ago, and it was in an identical box to the one in your picture. My box also didn't have any spare stylus tips. Also had a Hongkong style adapter, which Negri provided a US adapter in the outer package.
I suppose the HK version just doesn't come with spare tips?
It seems real to me.
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You got no idea of the Negri problems with the Note 3 obviously.
I feel sorry for anybody buying stuff from them.
The stories are hard to believe yet true.

What problems.
les_garten said:
You got no idea of the Negri problems with the Note 3 obviously.
I feel sorry for anybody buying stuff from them.
The stories are hard to believe yet true.
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What problems with NEGRI? Please enlighten me.

les_garten said:
You got no idea of the Negri problems with the Note 3 obviously.
I feel sorry for anybody buying stuff from them.
The stories are hard to believe yet true.
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I bought my N-8000 and SM-P601 from Negri and had no issues. The only problems I heard regarding the N3 and Negri was that some carrier devices they sold, mostly T-Mobile, that had their IMEI's reported stolen after people received them and started using them. Since Negri doesn't build devices and most of what they sell is grey market and imported from other countries they are kind of at the mercy of their suppliers. As far as I know they stood behind the devices with bad IMEI's and replaced or refunded them. If you're in the U.S. and buying a SM-P601/5, no matter who you're buying it from, you're taking a chance as to its origins, condition, and country of sale (which can't be the U.S. because neither is sold here). And know that none of them have a Samsung warranty because they're grey market. Negri, Expansys, and NewEgg are the biggest sellers of Samsung grey market devices in the U.S. and I've purchased from all three. My experiences have been fine but I've heard complaints (some horror stories) on all three. With grey market goods there's no such thing as Best Buy. And Amazon doesn't count; all their unlocked devices are sold via marketplace sellers.

BarryH_GEG said:
I bought my N-8000 and SM-P601 from Negri and had no issues. The only problems I heard regarding the N3 and Negri was that some carrier devices they sold, mostly T-Mobile, that had their IMEI's reported stolen after people received them and started using them. Since Negri doesn't build devices and most of what they sell is grey market and imported from other countries they are kind of at the mercy of their suppliers. As far as I know they stood behind the devices with bad IMEI's and replaced or refunded them. If you're in the U.S. and buying a SM-P601/5, no matter who you're buying it from, you're taking a chance as to its origins, condition, and country of sale (which can't be the U.S. because neither is sold here). And know that none of them have a Samsung warranty because they're grey market. Negri, Expansys, and NewEgg are the biggest sellers of Samsung grey market devices in the U.S. and I've purchased from all three. My experiences have been fine but I've heard complaints (some horror stories) on all three. With grey market goods there's no such thing as Best Buy. And Amazon doesn't count; all their unlocked devices are sold via marketplace sellers.
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They were selling used as new
They were selling stolen as new
They were selling phones with the seals broken that were still locked as unlocked and new
They were selling Phones that were rooted as new
They were selling Phones that were already Knox tripped as new
This is just a small list of the things they pulled
If you read the TMO Note 3 thread thread, I don't know how you would do business with them, absolutely despicable.

les_garten said:
If you read the TMO Note 3 thread thread, I don't know how you would do business with them, absolutely despicable.
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I'd read the thread before I bought my P-601 from them. All their Samsung HSPA devices come from the Samsung dealer in Trinidad. They had the P601 before anyone else reselling them in the U.S. did and it arrived in its shrink wrap and was perfect. The shrink wrapped Trinidadian N-8000 I got last year arrived with a bad display. Negri paid return shipping and overnighted me a new one (which was perfect). I asked where their LTE P-605's came from and they said Asia. I personally am not interested in any Asian-sourced imports because the s/w and Hub access are funky when used in the U.S. Software wise, Trinidad and Latin America are the most compatible. That's why I got a P-601. When people ask me where to buy Samsung grey market devices I mention the three company's above. I share my experiences (and the horror stories, lack of warranty, and other risks) and tell them to avoid PayPal (Amazon Payments is an option with Negri) and use a "customer friendly" credit card like Amex. I'm sorry some people got burned over the N3 but it doesn't change my positive experiences.

Same problem but got the solution.
alynch75 said:
Just checked over my device and some you tube video posts.. a few things.
I got the P605 from ATGSM.com.
The box was sealed with sticker and all.
Inside the box there were no replacement stylus tips (as seen in all the you tube reviews)
Also the box does not look like any of the boxes i see in the reviews. I take it that the version they shipped me is originally the Hong Kong.
There were no specs on the box.
Did I get a fake...a clone....... What do I do now. I can post a pic of the box if you need to see it.
I need some serious help. I paid over $700 for this device. I just want to make sure its the real deal. Especially seeing how there are so many fakes out there. Please help.
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Power saving mode should be off........ It's working... Thanks to dt33