2 Questions as I am going to start flashing some different ROM's.
1) Which should I use if I have a setup I like and may want to revert back to:
Nandroid backup or Titanium backup? Or do they do different things?
2) Once I flash the ROM and need to put it back to a condition with all the apps and settings as I would like, is there any easier process than using Appbrain to restore previously installed apps? But what about settings within various apps? Do people just go through and manually change everything each time?
Thanks in advance.
use a recovery like cwm. a nandroid backup is done by clockwork mod. it basically takes a picture of all files just as they are on your phone. minus your sd card. it is used as a restore if you run into problems with new stuff. titanium backup is used to save apps and data and settings. I would highly suggest you don't restore system data. also slot of people end up running into problems restoring app data using titanium backup. so I only restore apps by themselves. any more questions just ask. also if any info I give is wrong let me know. and as always if I have helped you give a thanks
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forgot some things. whenever you try out a new rom always do a cwm backup. before flashing a rom make sure to wipe everything like dalvik cache. cache. and also do the factory data wipe. calkulin has a. zip to do all this for you as well.
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use a recovery like cwm. a nandroid backup is done by clockwork mod. it basically takes a picture of all files just as they are on your phone. minus your sd card. it is used as a restore if you run into problems with new stuff. titanium backup is used to save apps and data and settings. I would highly suggest you don't restore system data. also slot of people end up running into problems restoring app data using titanium backup. so I only restore apps by themselves. any more questions just ask. also if any info I give is wrong let me know. and as always if I have helped you give a thanks
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forgot some things. whenever you try out a new rom always do a cwm backup. before flashing a rom make sure to wipe everything like dalvik cache. cache. and also do the factory data wipe. calkulin has a. zip to do all this for you as well.
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Thanks for responding. So Titanium does everything a nandroid backup does plus the data and settings?
When people flash new ROM's (after wiping cache, etc.)do they use appbrain to restore all apps? or do people use Titanium to restore apps? I assume not a Nandroid backup as that will revert them back to the previous ROM. I assume they then still have to go through and adjust all the settings to their liking (browser default, lockscreen, background, etc.) seems like it would take about an hour just to get all settings back as you like it after each ROM flash. Is this what most people do or is there an easier way.
Thanks again.
patrao_n said:
use a recovery like cwm. a nandroid backup is done by clockwork mod. it basically takes a picture of all files just as they are on your phone. minus your sd card. it is used as a restore if you run into problems with new stuff. titanium backup is used to save apps and data and settings. I would highly suggest you don't restore system data. also slot of people end up running into problems restoring app data using titanium backup. so I only restore apps by themselves. any more questions just ask. also if any info I give is wrong let me know. and as always if I have helped you give a thanks
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forgot some things. whenever you try out a new rom always do a cwm backup. before flashing a rom make sure to wipe everything like dalvik cache. cache. and also do the factory data wipe. calkulin has a. zip to do all this for you as well.
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noahas said:
Thanks for responding. So Titanium does everything a nandroid backup does plus the data and settings?
When people flash new ROM's (after wiping cache, etc.)do they use appbrain to restore all apps? or do people use Titanium to restore apps? I assume not a Nandroid backup as that will revert them back to the previous ROM. I assume they then still have to go through and adjust all the settings to their liking (browser default, lockscreen, background, etc.) seems like it would take about an hour just to get all settings back as you like it after each ROM flash. Is this what most people do or is there an easier way.
Thanks again.
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Decent advice by patrao_n, but there are a couple of slight corrections.
With Titanium Backup, you can restore apps + data without issues in most cases, you just want to avoid restoring System Apps + data. Also, if you don't absolutely need the data, you will minimize the issues that some have - as noted by patrao_n - if you restore only apps.
As far as flashing a ROM, I would never advise a "one size fits all" solution (i.e before flashing a rom make sure to wipe everything like dalvik cache. cache. and also do the factory data wipe...) Instead, follow the instructions of the OP (original post) in the thread for the ROM you are flashing. The process can be quite different from ROM to ROM. Also there are three things that are your best friend before flashing, your two eyes and the search bar. Read and search thoroughly and you will find at least 50% and probably 90% of your answers on your own.
As far as your next questions:
Titanium restores app, data and some settings period. It is really nothing like a nandroid. It is meant to work in conjunction with a nandroid, but they are not the same. The nandroid is just like a restore point on a PC or a snapshot on Mac. The nandroid will take you back to the exact setup you had when you made it. Titanium will only restore your apps and some limited settings/data. External microSD and things like baseband (modem/radio) are not backed up/changed with a nandroid. You always want to have a nandroid (backup) of your preferred setup and I strongly advise that you keep a copy of that nandroid on your desktop (PC/Mac/Lin) as well. This way you are covered if something goes wrong.
AppBrain doesn't restore apps. It will tell you what you had installed and let you re-download them again one by one the same as the Market, but nothing other than a list is stored with AppBrain. It is basically just an alternative market.
In terms of restoring, there are any number of ways you can do this. Most third party launchers and many apps allow you to backup settings/setup to the sd. Using Titanium Backup Premium you can be setup in as little as 10 minutes depending on how many apps you have and how much you tweak your launcher. Also, whether or not you had to do a full wipe when changing ROMs or just cache and dalvik. Generally going from one version to the next of the same ROM, you are not doing a full wipe. Coming from one ROM to a different ROM you are doing a full wipe. Again check the OP of you particular ROM(s).
Personally, I use GO Launcher which allows me to restore my setup quickly and easily. Also I use the modified Format_All zip whenever possible so that all my data remains, meaning I don't really have to setup anything, just reboot and go. This doesn't always go as planned, but that's why you have a nandroid. More often than not it works for me. Typically I can change ROMs in less than 5 minutes using the modified Format_All.
Again, you are going to get much, much better advice if you read the OP and then ask questions in the ROM thread of your choice.
The one thing I can say, is take the time to learn. Don't take shortcuts before you know what you are doing or I can pretty much guarantee they won't end up being shortcuts.
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Hello!
When I want to migrate from one rom to another I'm doing those steps.
1. Downloading new Rom and copy it on the root of my SD Card
2. Backup trough the CWM
3. Wipe Data/reset factory
4. Wipe Cashe
5. Wipe Dalvik
6. Flash new Rom
7. Restore from Backup I did in step 2
Is it everything?
I just wanted to make sure what I'm not doing right because I have some issues. Especially if I'm flashing the new Rom but after looking in the "About phone" section I'm still having the info from previous Rom.
Please, can somebody help me what I'm doing wrong?
Sorry for that stupid question, just wanted to make sure.
Thank you and God bless you!
Its because you are restoring in step 7 you are actually bringing back the old rom (the restore point). You can get titanium backup and backup everything in there from your old rom. Flash the new one then run titanium on the fresh new rom and you will have all your apps.
So, what is the best practice if I want to restore data and apps I have? I don't want to restore the apps one by one because I have many of them installed.
And what about the data? Accounts, Contacts, etc...
Thank you!
antila said:
So, what is the best practice if I want to restore data and apps I have? I don't want to restore the apps one by one because I have many of them installed.
And what about the data? Accounts, Contacts, etc...
Thank you!
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Yea, you are restoring the entire previous rom. You need to do everything up until the point where you used to restore, and then go down to Advanced restore instead. Select the backup that you made the backup of. Select data. Let it do its thing. It will restore all of your apps and settings and app data to the NEW rom that you flashed.
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Yea, you are restoring the entire previous rom. You need to do everything up until the point where you used to restore, and then go down to Advanced restore instead. Select the backup that you made the backup of. Select data. Let it do its thing. It will restore all of your apps and settings and app data to the NEW rom that you flashed.
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Wow, thanks for that. I had been using Titanium and was never exactly sure what settings to use to restore. So just choosing the restore data option will restore apps AND data?
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Wow, thanks for that. I had been using Titanium and was never exactly sure what settings to use to restore. So just choosing the restore data option will restore apps AND data?
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Choosing the Advanced Restore and then selecting Data will restore the entire Data folder from whatever clockworkmod backup you select. The data folder contains all of the apps that YOU installed and didn't come with the previous rom as well as any data corresponding with those apps such as settings and save states, as well as wireless network passwords, as well as text messages and MMS messages. It pretty much restores your phone to exactly where it was when you backed up.
Now one of the drawbacks is that it does not always work perfectly. When you are flashing from drastically different roms, like Froyo to Eclair, I would recommend against it. It may work or it may not. I have had it work a vast majority of the time. Its a lifesaver.
muyoso said:
Choosing the Advanced Restore and then selecting
Now one of the drawbacks is that it does not always work perfectly. When you are flashing from drastically different roms, like Froyo to Eclair, I would recommend against it. It may work or it may not. I have had it work a vast majority of the time. Its a lifesaver.
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No. I'm talking about Froyo to Froyo. I understand about the Eclair and Froyo thing.
Thank you very much for your help.
God bless you!
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Yea, you are restoring the entire previous rom. You need to do everything up until the point where you used to restore, and then go down to Advanced restore instead. Select the backup that you made the backup of. Select data. Let it do its thing. It will restore all of your apps and settings and app data to the NEW rom that you flashed.
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I want to say thank you once more. I've reflashed everything like you said and right now it works like a charm.
God bless you!
Hi folks... I'm fairly new to flashing ROM's (i know how to flash them and such) but I have a question about backups and restores of roms....I have searched and just dont see the exact wording im looking for.
Ok, So, I have clockwork, and rom manager and have done a backup of my rom.
Here is my question that isnt quite so clear to me.
When I flash a new rom, or say update one that I have where you have to wipe everything.... are these backups here to restore all of your programs and such to where you dont have to go back in and re-download everything when you have a new fresh rom installed.
Id love to try out a bunch of roms.. but I just hate having to go and re-download all of my programs each time I put a new one on... if that is how it has to be then so be it...
I just dont really know exactly what the backups im doing are for, or what they do.
Thanks for your help.
When I flash a new rom, or say update one that I have where you have to wipe everything.... are these backups here to restore all of your programs and such to where you dont have to go back in and re-download everything when you have a new fresh rom installed.
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Somewhat. A nandroid backup is a COMPLETE backup of your entire phone at the point you make the backup. All your apps, calls, texts, etc will be exactly like you made the backup. That's the beauty of nandroid backups, you can make one, try a new rom, and if you dont like it, restore your backup and there is no hassle re-installing apps and changing settings.
However, when you install a new rom, you have to wipe everything. So when flashing a new rom, you will not have anything, you will have to re-install your programs.
There are backup programs that will allow you to backup before a wipe and flash when installing a new ROM. You can then restore the user apps and data. You can also restore SOME system data but you have to be careful and it may be a trial and error process when restoring.
I use Titanium Backup. Some people also use MyBackup Root. I found that when I restored some of my apps with MyBackup they would Force Close when I tried to run them after a restore. That has not been the case with Titanium.
I have Titanium set to restore the apps to the original location. That way my apps restore to internal (DATA) or the the SD Card depending on where they were originally installed.
My process when I flash a new ROM:
- Backup all user apps + Data and System Data with Titanium.
- Nandroid Backup using Amon_RA
- Wipe System, Data, Dalvik and Cache
- Flash the ROM
- Reboot
- Create google account, etc.
- Install Titanium from the market.
- Restore user apps + data using titanium
You can also restore some system data. Depending on the ROM (and how different it was from the original) that can cause problems. If that happens go back to wipe and reflash the ROM again without restoring the system data.
I have had no problems restoring things like my SMS Messages and Call Logs. You can get into problems when you start restoring things like system settings or HTC Sense settings, etc.
Thank you both for the replies. This is exactly what i needed to know. I hope this thread helps others with similar questions.
There is one thing. CWM and ROM Manager have a history of not being reliable with backups.
Your best bet is to get Amon Ra and use that to make Nandroids.
4 I always have on my phone are my Stock/Rooted, my last ROM I was on, fully setup, my Current ROM, basic, before I restore and programs or apps/data, and my current ROM all setup.
If I flash a new ROM, I can just delete my older complete setup.
I swapped out Roms (went from Stock 4.0.4 to deoxed/rooted stock 4.0.4 to AOKP v25 4.0.3 and then back to deoxed/rooted stock 4.0.4) and then restored from a titanium backup, and now google talk will no longer function.
The whole reason I left the AOKP rom is because gtalk wasn't working, so I assumed it was an issue with the ROM.
I've tried uninstalling it (root uninstaller) and restoring it, I've tried wiping the data, deleting the cache, etc. Unfortunately, it's not available on the market, so the only way I can reinstall it is via my single titanium backup. Anyone have any ideas?
Why did you restore app and data when all you had to do was flash gapps? Especially gapps from different versions nevertheless.
Yeah, it isn't the rom but user error so it seems.
The app and data was from a backup taken before I went to AOKP (stock, rooted, deodexed 4.0.4), so they're the same versions I'm trying to restore back onto my phone now that I'm back on that version.
Secondly, I am restoring everything so I don't have to recustomize everything and all of my old system settings come back in. Pretty sure this is standard practice? Perhaps if you didn't have a solution you could keep your snooty responses to yourself?
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The app and data was from a backup taken before I went to AOKP (stock, rooted, deodexed 4.0.4), so they're the same versions I'm trying to restore back onto my phone now that I'm back on that version.
Secondly, I am restoring everything so I don't have to recustomize everything and all of my old system settings come back in. Pretty sure this is standard practice? Perhaps if you didn't have a solution you could keep your snooty responses to yourself?
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"Restoring everything" from Titanium is probably restoring your problem too. When I flash a new rom with a wipe it takes me 15-20 minutes to let Google restore my apps, restore data only to specific non-system apps with Titanium, re-do my settings customizations.
Give it a try and maybe your stuff will work too.
Good luck.
Well I just said screw it, and restored from a nandroid backup I had taken instead of the Titanium version and everything is working fine.
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"Restoring everything" from Titanium is probably restoring your problem too. When I flash a new rom with a wipe it takes me 15-20 minutes to let Google restore my apps, restore data only to specific non-system apps with Titanium, re-do my settings customizations.
Give it a try and maybe your stuff will work too.
Good luck.
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Yea, you're probably right. I'd used nandroid backups previously and just wanted to give titanium pro a shot with a full batch restore. Looks like I'll stick to using that for individual one-offs and nandroid for entire system backups. Thanks!
apols said:
Yea, you're probably right. I'd used nandroid backups previously and just wanted to give titanium pro a shot with a full batch restore. Looks like I'll stick to using that for individual one-offs and nandroid for entire system backups. Thanks!
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You can restore apps + app data, but its really never a good idea to restore system data, especially as a batch restore. If you must restore them, you should be a little more selective.
TiBU restore can be useless for a lot of things, especially on something like Google Talk, where you get it automatically with a GAPPS flash and it restores everything for you when you sign in.
Pretty simple actually, if a restored app is problematic, DON'T restore... especially not gapps like gtalk....
Everyone told you the same thing and I was the first. somehow that offended you at first, ungrateful egoist sunflower in a greenhouse with a fragile emotional issues being butthurt over nothing more like it.
So heres a noob question.
If I use (Rouge currently) to do a "backup" under options. And then start flashing ROMs, if I restore that backup I did, does that get me 100% back to the point of when I did the backup? Meaning, it restores -everything- like it never happened?
I've always wondered this, so if I'm flashing things, I can always get back to my fully stable setup exactly like it never happened by restoring? Or does the backup via Rouge( or CWM, or whatever ) only back certain things and I'll have to do more setup after restoring to get back up and running exactly like I had the phone before?
Sorry for the noob question, just want to make sure I got this straight.
It will restore everything 100%. You also have the option to restore other partitions separate, system, boot, and the most important , data.
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It will restore everything 100%. You also have the option to restore other partitions separate, system, boot, and the most important , data.
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This is what I assumed, thank you for the confirmation!
Here is a follow up question:
If I do a Titianium Backup for apps and sys data. Then I flash a new ROM, I usually do a Titanium restore of both Sys and App data ... It gets me up and running the quickest.
1.) Is this safe, or will sys data mess with the ROM
2.) Is there a better, more supportable way to do this?
RubenRybnik said:
Here is a follow up question:
If I do a Titianium Backup for apps and sys data. Then I flash a new ROM, I usually do a Titanium restore of both Sys and App data ... It gets me up and running the quickest.
1.) Is this safe, or will sys data mess with the ROM
2.) Is there a better, more supportable way to do this?
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1) It's always best NOT to restore system data when flashing a new rom. All your system data is specific to the rom you are flashing, so you don't want anything to conflict with the new data you are using now. Will cause a lot of problems in the long run.
2) TB is the best way to restore apps and apps+data that I know of. MyBackUp Pro is another good one, but TB works best for me. I'm sure there are others in the market also.
And I moved this to the Q&A section.
Well, this is what I thought too in fact I rooted my phone, installed CWM and the next step I performed was a nandroid backup thinking I could get my stock setup back if I ever wanted it. All was good. Then I flashed for a while and found a setup I liked and before proceeding I did another nandroid. THEN a while later I got to a point were I found myself, for time purposes wanting to fall back to my second backup so I thought: "hey, lets try restoring from this nandroid file I so maticulously spent time creating"!
That's when, for me at least, this whole nandroid Backup/Restore exercise falls on its face. Because when I tried to restore the backup I made it gave me a MD5 error..and I know there's a workaround that you can use by modifying the file I think that's basically what your doing? I didn't try it, I figured if the file needed to be modified before it could be restored what was the point anyway.? I just used my plan B which was Titanium Backup.
Anyway I keep my eyes open for an answer to this mystery, I think it has to do with the different CWM versions from one ROM to the next? Still not sure though?
Oh and hopefully this post wont just get rudely deleted like my first post on the same subject did? I made the same mistake you have by posting in the "General" area instead of the Q&A section!
the only time I have had a Android fail for md5 was when I changed the name of the backup. so maybe that's what you did?
RubenRybnik said:
So heres a noob question.
If I use (Rouge currently) to do a "backup" under options. And then start flashing ROMs, if I restore that backup I did, does that get me 100% back to the point of when I did the backup? Meaning, it restores -everything- like it never happened?
I've always wondered this, so if I'm flashing things, I can always get back to my fully stable setup exactly like it never happened by restoring? Or does the backup via Rouge( or CWM, or whatever ) only back certain things and I'll have to do more setup after restoring to get back up and running exactly like I had the phone before?
Sorry for the noob question, just want to make sure I got this straight.
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I have done many restores and everything comes back just like it was before.
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Here is a follow up question:
If I do a Titianium Backup for apps and sys data. Then I flash a new ROM, I usually do a Titanium restore of both Sys and App data ... It gets me up and running the quickest.
1.) Is this safe, or will sys data mess with the ROM
2.) Is there a better, more supportable way to do this?
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I only use Titanium backup to backup and restore specific apps on my phone. I use CWM for the system.
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the only time I have had a Android fail for md5 was when I changed the name of the backup. so maybe that's what you did?
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nope. I followed step by step...pretty hard to mess it up with qbking77 video's? Is there any other possible reason, you can think of?..and really, how many people test out thier restores? I'm just wondering?
Just one quick point of clarification regarding the Nandroid backup/restore. From what I've read, the restore will bring back your kernel and ROM but NOT the modem version. If the modem is important to you you'll have to flash that back separately.
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Just one quick point of clarification regarding the Nandroid backup/restore. From what I've read, the restore will bring back your kernel and ROM but NOT the modem version. If the modem is important to you you'll have to flash that back separately.
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Good point ... Thanks to everyone for the replies, got a much better understanding on the backup/restore process in both cwm and titanium now ) Thanks!
One more question about the MD5 ... So you can not change the name of the backup of CWM? I didn't think name change would effect how MD5 is generated.
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Here is a follow up question:
If I do a Titianium Backup for apps and sys data. Then I flash a new ROM, I usually do a Titanium restore of both Sys and App data ... It gets me up and running the quickest.
1.) Is this safe, or will sys data mess with the ROM
2.) Is there a better, more supportable way to do this?
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You can also use your latest nandroid back up to restore data. I just tried this as a test with my wife's phone (i also did a separate back up in TB just in case) and it works well.
She was on one of Calks ROMs, and I wanted to switch her to the bare version of the ROM. I wiped data/cache/dalvik, installed the bare rom and rebooted. Once booted, I verified everything was gone (apps, contacts, sms, settings, ect). Then I went back to CWM and went to back up and restore->advanced restore-> restore data. When I booted back up, all her apps, contacts, sms, settings were back. I guess this would be a quick and dirty way to restore your stuff when jumping between a lot of ROMS.
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You can also use your latest nandroid back up to restore data. I just tried this as a test with my wife's phone (i also did a separate back up in TB just in case) and it works well.
She was on one of Calks ROMs, and I wanted to switch her to the bare version of the ROM. I wiped data/cache/dalvik, installed the bare rom and rebooted. Once booted, I verified everything was gone (apps, contacts, sms, settings, ect). Then I went back to CWM and went to back up and restore->advanced restore-> restore data. When I booted back up, all her apps, contacts, sms, settings were back. I guess this would be a quick and dirty way to restore your stuff when jumping between a lot of ROMS.
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So just to be clear ... "Restore Data" in CWM is just Apps and Apps data, no system data is restored correct?
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So just to be clear ... "Restore Data" in CWM is just Apps and Apps data, no system data is restored correct?
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Yes on apps and data.
Ok Something was hinky with my device so I had to do what I most assuredly did not want to do. factory reset and reinstall.
I know how to make a backup now from recovery but alas I need to do a wipe and clean install before I can MAKE a usable backup.
so I backup as much as I can. contacts settings for different programs etc..
my BIG pet peeve was my go launcher screens. I HAVE A LOT of stuff I really really really did not want to reinstall and reconfigure.
so I backed up golauncher settings.
I wipe. I reinstall. before I "restore" go launcher settings I first go down my checklist and reinstall all the apps and widgets its going to use BEFORE I restore go launcher.
all installed all working.
I restore go launcher. SPLAT. every single stinking widget is "Problem Loading widget"
they are all their they are all in their proper places but USELESS. all of them (except go launcher calendar) say Problem Loading widget.
I have 12 days left widgets especially I DO NOT WANT TO REINSTALL.
is their anything I can do? how do I fix this?
Sorry to say but reinsyalling the widgets are the only way I have found
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before I wiped it I made an image. I could restore that image. is there a way to properly "backup" the widgets properly so I can "restore" them?
I have all my widgets restored now except my Days left widgets. there are just too many of them and I don't even remember all the dates I had set up I had so many of them.
There could be several ways doing that but nothing is perfect.
Go Launcher backup is not working well.
The most efficient way is 'not doing factory reset'. I'm not doing factory reset at all these days because everything works perfect without factory reset.
(many people says that factory reset is required to properly install ROM. But it's the special case)
If you do not wipe the data during the installation, all app will be there after the installation including go launcher setting and widgets... Just need to change the default launcher from tw to go.
If there is a reason that you need to wipe the data, then before doing it, make the whole application backup using Titanium backup and restore it after flashing the rom. It will store almost everything with some widget links broken. But this is better than nothing...
there was something seriously "wrong" in software on the phone no idea what or how to fix factory wipe appeared to be the only option.
dogg catcher kept "uninstalling" itself and eventually refused to install at all declaring "incompatible"
no idea why worked fine on every other device I tried so "something" was hinky with my device I determined.
I just want to get those days left widgets back and get weatherbug working properly again at 160res.
going to make a backup again wipe restore the old backup and try a titanium backup of go and weatherbug
then wipe restore new image and try the backups from titanium see what happens.
now that I know how to backup from the recovery menu I NEVER plan to do a factory wipe again.
if things go hinky I will have a nice clean backup I can just wipe and restore my backup so everything stays perfect.
VERY annoying.
That's it! Most important thing is making clean backup - nandroid backup of your whole system and titanium backup after applications configured. This will really save your time in the future.
hmm the nandroid backup does NOT backup settings and configuration?
what use is it then? is that not the POINT of a nandroid backup to be a bit for bit backup?
what exactly "IS" a nandroid backup.
Nandroid backup - backup almost everything including the user apps + data.
Because of this, normally nadroid backup size is +- 1GB.
Also, it's hard to keep the history because of size. You may want to keep just few critical nandroid backups.
Titianum backup - There are lots of option to make backup and able to control the versions. So, this method can be used more frequently. For any small changes, I would do the titanium backup rather than nandroid.
ok so what precisely does the nandoird backup "NOT" backup. I assume it does not backup anything on the internal SD (I backed up the whole thing) anything else?
my first nandroid backup was almost 3gb
My plan is to make 2 nandroid backups like I do with imagine my desktops and laptops.
the 1st will be all my settings and all my core applications. I call my "core" backup. its the os settings and the apps I will "ALWAYS" reinstall no matter what.
then I install "other" apps I like and make a new backup this will be the "full" backup.
if I find a new "core" app I like I will wipe the system restore the core backup clean then add the new "core app" then make a new "core backup"
I was not aware of this backup method before yesterday though hehe
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ok so what precisely does the nandoird backup "NOT" backup. I assume it does not backup anything on the internal SD (I backed up the whole thing) anything else?
my first nandroid backup was almost 3gb
My plan is to make 2 nandroid backups like I do with imagine my desktops and laptops.
the 1st will be all my settings and all my core applications. I call my "core" backup. its the os settings and the apps I will "ALWAYS" reinstall no matter what.
then I install "other" apps I like and make a new backup this will be the "full" backup.
if I find a new "core" app I like I will wipe the system restore the core backup clean then add the new "core app" then make a new "core backup"
I was not aware of this backup method before yesterday though hehe
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No no no!
Basically nandroid backup has almost everything (rom, kernel, modem) + system configuration data + all installed user apps + user configuration data.
So, if your system or app is not normal, and if it's really hard to go back to previous status, then you can simply restore your system using your nandroid backup. In most case, you don't need to backup the nandroid backup files to your PC or laptop except the data is extremely important.
If you think you have a chance to break your external sdcard or internal sdcard, then you can keep the files in both places. But it isn't necessary in most cases.
After the Nandroid backup, for any small changes or you want to back up the applications, then you can use the Titanium backup to track the application changes.
When I started learning the android, I thought the same way you mentioned above, but I don't think it's necessary. We are getting new builds almost every week or day. So, at least you want to stay with your current rom forever, you don't need lots of backups. About a week later, your old backups would be in garbage can.
Make it simple! And you will be happy.
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Here is what I usually do
1. Make full nandroid backup of my current phone before I upgrade the rom or make major changes
2. Change the system or Flash the rom
3. Confirm the changes or make the basic tuning on the rom
4. If everything is fine then make another nondorid backup, if somethis is wrong, then restore the system using nandroid backup in step 1. Follow the steps again.
5. Install Apps, configure the apps and frequently backup the apps using titanium backup
6. If some apps is not working well, or you deleted necessary app, then recover the app (and/or data) thru tb
7. verify if everything is fine, then make full Titanium backup
8.use your phone. If you believe your phone is stable, then make another Nandroid backup.
9. Keep the nandroid backups in step 1 and 9.
So, combination between nandroid and TB is really useful and if you use it properly, it will save lots of your time.
sure but once I get a rom I really like I don't change it unless there is cause to change it.
also my "core apps" don't change and anything else I install I could care less if I lose it. if its important I make a new core backup.
what I do NOT want to do is spend literally "HOURS" getting all my settings widgets tweaks and logins all set up again.
I am on over 4 hours now trying to get my SII back to the way it was STILL not quite their yet.
still can't get my damned days left widgets to restore (there is 12 of them) I really do not want to do that over again.
and still can't get weather bug working right for some reason.
if I had one of these backups in place I could have blown the system out and click restore and been done with it.
You should backup using "MyBackup Pro". It backs up everything. Its a lot quicker to restore using it. 5 minutes and your done.
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AFAIK - Nandroid backup doesn't backup modem/kernel...
phazeman said:
AFAIK - Nandroid backup doesn't backup modem/kernel...
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Um, nice resurrection?
And yes, nandroid backs up modem, kernel and rom.
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